I know there are a variety of posts of many flavors in regards to OEM in car bluetooth handsfree systems. Some for unbranded i9100, some for the AT&T i777
For anyone out there with the knowledge: Is there anyway to find a task automater (like a macro) to lets say automatically activate the bluetooth button for the paired device, lets say 1 second after Bluetooth turns on. In connection with Auto Bluetooth app (like the ones which turns on when motion is detected) it could be automated. I would do it, except I don't know how to write program code.
I am thinking like "if bluetooth turned on, wait 1 second, trigger paired device input" . Because in that case it would connect (automatically) in most cases I though many many people posting around here.
Anybody any idea?
I am trying to connect my Galaxy S2 with they system in my 2011 Jaguar XJ. I never had a problem with my BlackBerrys. The BlackBerry autoconnects the moment I start the car and all functions work.
Absolutely not so with my S2. It seems that differnet car manufacturers differing systems which use BLuetooth differently. Some work, some don't .
Let me clearify the problem. Phone does NOT AUTOCONNECT and it drives me nuts. Before i just got in the car and never pulled the phone out of my pocket. Now I have to pull it out and manually connect.
I am posting as I may save some of you some time. I tried everything up and down the list. About every Bluetooth apps in the market place. Free or paid. Really pretty much all of them. Nothing worked. I upgraded to the (leaked) UCKJ1 and back to the original UCKH1. I rooted and unrooted.
To no avail. All I can do is use a shortcut widget to save me a few menues to navigate.
So for the ones with the same problem; you know all the things I tried. Don't waste your time.
It takes two devices to successfuly connect. If a connection doesn't happen, you can't blame just one device. My ISGS2 auto-connects to all of my devices (AV receiver, headset, PC, car, portable speaker, G-Tab) automatically every time. I get you're upset, but you can't single the phone out alone. As for cars, in the ISGS2 forum, non-iDrive (older) BMW's were the majority of the problem.
Same here. I have no problem auto connect to my BT devices. But when it comes to BT auto connections, problems are common. Both sides of the BT connection can be the cause.
Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Charlie
Mine connects flawlessly in my 2010 Camaro SS.
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Hi, Thanks to all for the responses. I completely agree that it takes two devices to do it right and I am fully keeping that in mind. I have 2 more cars I can try with. So I will check if it works with my wife's Lexus and with my Clarion system in another car I have.
It just is, that my BlackBerry (which I don't miss at all) simply did the job perfect. Obviously I can't tweak anything on the car side as that is next to impossible. There is no open source code and all is so proprietary.
So the only hope I have is to figure out a way to teach my SGSII.
Again thanks for the input. I do absolutely LOVE my Galaxy S2 (i777) therefore this is a simply irritating that I have to push buttons when I get in the car.
Hearing that it works for most of you is well, good for you and not so good for me.
Blaze9 said:
Im in a 2011 Camry SE, and with stock ROM it connects automatically. With CM7.1, I just have to take it out of sleep, by turning on the screen, and it connects. Not a big deal.
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Well depending on the year, make and model of the car with bluetooth. Really need more information. What Barry said is oh so true and usually anyone can tell you what their experience is. My experience with my daily driver's system *Alpine CDA 9887, Alpine KCE-BT400 made by parrot*, works flawlessly. The only time I ever had to manually connect was right after getting my sgs2 and even my captivate connected properly unless I was connected to my jawbone icon when I jumped in my truck.
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Charlie
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Well, I will experiment a bit more and I will share what I will find in case others have similar problems.
This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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This reminds me of a blog post ages ago called "Bluetooth needs a dentist"
The state of Bluetooth compatibility is abysmal in general... What is exceptionally sad is that 4-5 years ago or so, one of the most relibale and compatible Bluetooth stacks around (BlueZ) got a bunch of nastygrams from the Bluetooth SIG regarding failure to run the "offficial" compatibility/interop tests.
The short summary: Bluetooth compatibility is an epic nightmare, on both sides of the coin (host and device).
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Hello,
I have to fully agree with Entropy512. Bluetooth compatibility is a disaster. Especially after all the years around. Not sure who, what and where is deciding on BT specs, drafts and so forth.
I know that with car systems it is a hit and miss. But it doesn't have to be. We all know that. I was digging on my good old Jaguar forum. What I found confirms exactly what we are saying.
Earlier Samsung Androids barely could hold a connection on Jaguars systems. Just with later versions and Gingerbread that was resolved. And none of the Samsungs autoconnect to any Jaguar system. And that is the same for Audi, Merceds and Subaru and probably some others. According to the Jag forum Samsung knows about this and worked on it.
But here is the main problem. On my wife's Lexus and on my Clarion head unit in my van it works like a charm. Automatically connects without a hitch. I understand Samsung can fix that but than it may not work on other cars. But how come BlackBerry was able to do what the Samsung unit can't???
And yes, some features like phonebook, direct dial and so forth are totally hit and miss. How do car unit manufacturers test? With what? Just one phone from 3 years ago? Same with the phone manufacturers. Is anybody talking? Seriously, why can't car head units manufacturers and phone manufacturers not figure out how to get on the same page? Car BT is becoming a standard equipment. So do BT enabled phones, no matter smart phones or what have you. There are not that many head unit manufacturers. So they can't agree on a standard which then can be used by the devolpers for a decent BT stack for phones? Completely ridiculous. Can make phones talk to you like the Apple Siri but can't get a bluetooth connection.
OK, I got that off my chest. Now I will try to get to work. All I can do is working on the i777 side, because there is no acces to anything on the Jaguar side.
Funny thing is, my phone is always stating phonebook request when I get in the car. Eventhoug I turned phone book off in the car. So the phone "hears" the car. Just without hitting the profile for the car it won't connect.
Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Auto connect to my Mazda 6 no issues. Same with all my other phones.
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Do you have problems with the Mazda taking too long to switch from "Music" mode to "Headset" mode, thus the vlingo voice prompt timing out? My mazda has that issue and it makes vlingo in the car pretty much useless.
I don't typically use voice commands but ill try. It has no issues taking and making calls then going right back to google music streaming.
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I am also experiencing sporadic problems with my SGS2 and 2011 VW Golf using BT. About 75% of the time, it auto-connects fine when I start up the car. The car lets me know it linked and I can make/receive calls through the car's BT system fine. Address book loads as well (though does require a secondary authorization on the phone the very first time you use it).
However, every once in a while it either can't "find" the phone, or goes into a continuing looping state of "paired/not-paired". Generally when I actually want to use it! When it can't find the phone, manually searching for it (on the car's system) usually rectifies it temporarily, but it may go to unpaired a few minutes later. And on occasion, it simply can't find it at all. When I reboot the phone, or disable/re-enable BT on the phone itself, this problem usually goes away. This makes me think it's more of an issue with the phone then the car.
I too came from a BlackBerry torch and never once had a single pairing problem with my car.
When paired, media streaming generally works well, but occasionally I have to stop/restart it a couple times in order for the car to 'see' the media stream and allow me to chose it as the input.
The problem that I have is that the sgs2 will not report signal level to the car, so the car always shows full signal, even if i have no signal.
And it doesn't connect to the car unless the phone is in the car when the car starts. If bluetooth is turned off, or if I leave the car and go out of range, I will have to open the settings and force a connection.
Problem Solved, Autoconnect now working
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
metalco said:
Problem solved, read on:
This seems to apply to a variety of other vehicles, namely Jaguar, Mercedes, Audi, some BMW, Nissan and Subaru.
You can get your phone bluetooth auto connect to your vehicle by trying the following:
Attention, I believe this works for rooted phones only.
Get a app such as Titanium Backup Pro or MyToolbox.
under System Apps freeze "Bluetooth Share".
Now my phone automatically connects to my Jaguar XJ and all features seem to work. Having gotten around to check the phonebook yet. But all recent number log show and all seems to work.
Attention: I believe that may only work for rooted phones.
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I'm going to try this...
I've been having trouble with it automatically connecting to my 2011 WRX. My iPhone 4 always connected immediately, no problem. But the GS2 has yet to automatically connect, ever. It is paired fine and if I go into the Bluetooth settings, it is paired OK and I can manually tell it to connect. I've tried deleting the connection both from my head unit and the phone and recreating everything multiple times. Still no luck.
I'll try this and report back.
Bluetooth is def one of those technologies that could be enormously awesome but often has so much "fussiness" with it (due to incompatibilities or quirky behavior between varying BT devices) that it can easily become a right-royal PITA, IMO.
I've had quite a few Android phones over the years, now, and tried running both stock OS and many different ROMs on them with one of the expected primary functions of my phone to be as my main music player, including streaming music via BT/A2DP to my car stereo and this one function has ALWAYS proven to be the most frustrating experience. So yeah, I'll fully agree that whomever is "calling the shots" with setting up guidelines and specifications for BT and BT-based devices needs to get themselves an iron fist and put an end to this crap of inconsistent behavior and general flakiness.
When I got my AT&T SGS2 I was shocked to see that Samsung had done something to enable their stock music app to be able to transmit song metadata via BT. Android thus far has only supported AVRCP 1.0 (AFAIK) while you need AVRCP 1.3 (or higher) to be able to have metadata transmit over BT. At first I was ecstatic that FINALLY I could see my song info from my phone displayed on my car stereo while connected via BT. But then I found out that with the SGS2 and the stock music app my car stereo could no longer successfully send play/pause/forward/reverse commands to my phone! D'oh!!!
So then I went back to Poweramp (what I had been using for my primary music app on my previous phone; a Nexus S) and of course it wouldn't display the song metadata. But the big shocker was that it also couldn't recognize control commands issues from my car stereo! Not cool!
I did much tinkering and research and finally found that the music app PlayerPro would successfully work with my head unit (but still no metadata, of course) and so that's where I'm at.
Ridiculous, IMO. Nobody should have to endure such frustrating behavior with BT devices. I really wish somebody could straighten this kind of mess out in regards to Bluetooth and get things to "just work".
No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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No luck for me. Freezing the Bluetooth Share did not fix my auto-connect problem.
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OK, you can try one more thing;
Freeze all of those files: BluetoothPBAP, BluetoothShare and BluetoothAvrcp. If you have any other entries you can try freezing them, too. Just everything EXCEPT anything with a name like Brcm or BrcmBluetoothServices.
Just try it. And MAKE SURE to wipe cache after freezing, or better reboot. Also you want to make check they are in a "frozen" state after rebooting. I used "MyToolbox" and it worked perfect.
I haven't checked if I can still stream music, but I never use that anyways. I froze all of those and started unfreezing one by one. The experiment showed that in my case I only had to freeze the BluetoothShare. You may have to freeze the others, too.
Let me know how ot works. I am curious now.
I basically am a long Nokia fan and the Lumia 800 is beautiful. However it is not very practical in some cases. Here are a few flaws. Some of these flaws come from comparing Nokia's first windows phone with their first Symbian fifth edition phone, the epic 5800. You people add some on if you wish:
1) The phone needs to be turned on for the alarm clock to work
2) Phone calls don't end sometimes, you have to restart the phone
3) Battery life isn't too good but better after the update
4) It is advertised with 16GB of memory but look in the settings it actually has 13.8GB (for me)
5) FPS has always been a problem on Nokia phones for some applications and games
6) After a hard reset the Lumia 800 will crash and close applications sometimes. This is apparent in 'Shuffle Party', 'ARMED', 'Amazing Collective' and 'VIP Registration'. In 'Shuffle Party' your Xbox Live avatar is sometimes facing backwards or not even there. A new game in ARMED will crash and close. Amazing COllective app will not sometimes open and the VIP Registration app will keep giving annoying notices of the same thing every hour or two daily. This happened after a hard reset.
7) The camera does not focus properly. It does after a hard reset but not as well as it can. The book says the minimum focus distance is 10cm. It looks like it's more. Also compared to the 5800 camera the quality is okayish not too good. The pixels are blurred to make it look smooth whereas the 5800 has more pixel detail and the pixels are not blurred so the tiniest details come out somewhat and the image is sharp. It does not look like 8MP or maybe that's on the phone's screen.
8) The VIDEO camera focusses correctly but if you have something in the way it will focus on that and stay focussed at the point. For example I take a video of a lake and a person walks past the camera. The Lumia 800 will focus on the man and blur the lake a bit and it will stay like that until the camera is restarted.
9) The calendar takes some time to getting used to but it sucks a little. Compared to the symbian calendar in which to-do notes and meetings were shown a few days or a week prior to it's date the calendar on the Lumia 800 shows the things a day before on the lock screen and to edit it you have to go to the calendar instead of the one touch option on the 5800.
10) No Bluetooth file transfer. No point of bluetooth other than to transfer contacts but files won't work.
11) No USB mode. I used to use my Nokia 5800 for everything, even as a portable USB drive. The Lumia 800 does not have that, you need a big, fat, cloggy software called Zune which no one cares about to transfer things. But hey, we have SkyDrive for that
12) Privacy! I was talking to a friend yesterday through the built-in chat and I typed in the word "RnB" in a sentence. I have never typed in that word into a pc or phone for years, I know it sounds stupid but I know I have not. I dont even listen to RnB. And guess what? Today on youtube I had 3 RnB adverts!! On an Xbox 360 game video?? Coincidence? Hell no!
13) Battery capacity decreases by a few digits every time I charge the phone. It should not happen that frequently.
14) Contacts confusion. The phone syncs all your contacts on your windows live, facebook and from your sim into one and imports them into your Hotmail account. That means that every single email address, name and number on your phone, facebook and hotmail is dumped into your phone, paired up with the same names and then uploaded onto your windows live address book. There is a filter option to sort between Hotmail and Facebook contacts but it does not leave you with the phone numbers you had on your sim, it just merges them. And also Facebook and Windows Live have that personal data too!
15) I have not found a way to bookmark or add pages to the favourites list //FOUND IT LOL
16) After a hard reset the phone does not vibrate or ring if I get a message while it is locked. Even with the settings changed and the volume set to full it will not ring, not even for a phone call. The only time it vibrates is if I receive a new Hotmail message.
17) After the hard-reset every time I screen lock the phone it will disconnect from any Wifi network. This did not happen before the hard-reset.
There may be a few more which I cannot remember lol but other than that it's a really nice phone!
iGunz said:
I basically am a long Nokia fan and the Lumia 800 is beautiful. However it is not very practical in some cases. Here are a few flaws. Some of these flaws come from comparing Nokia's first windows phone with their first Symbian fifth edition phone, the epic 5800. You people add some on if you wish:
1) The phone needs to be turned on for the alarm clock to work
2) Phone calls don't end sometimes, you have to restart the phone
3) Battery life isn't too good but better after the update
4) It is advertised with 16GB of memory but look in the settings it actually has 13.8GB (for me)
5) FPS has always been a problem on Nokia phones for some applications and games
6) After a hard reset the Lumia 800 will crash and close applications sometimes. This is apparent in 'Shuffle Party', 'ARMED', 'Amazing Collective' and 'VIP Registration'. In 'Shuffle Party' your Xbox Live avatar is sometimes facing backwards or not even there. A new game in ARMED will crash and close. Amazing COllective app will not sometimes open and the VIP Registration app will keep giving annoying notices of the same thing every hour or two daily. This happened after a hard reset.
7) The camera does not focus properly. It does after a hard reset but not as well as it can. The book says the minimum focus distance is 10cm. It looks like it's more. Also compared to the 5800 camera the quality is okayish not too good. The pixels are blurred to make it look smooth whereas the 5800 has more pixel detail and the pixels are not blurred so the tiniest details come out somewhat and the image is sharp. It does not look like 8MP or maybe that's on the phone's screen.
8) The VIDEO camera focusses correctly but if you have something in the way it will focus on that and stay focussed at the point. For example I take a video of a lake and a person walks past the camera. The Lumia 800 will focus on the man and blur the lake a bit and it will stay like that until the camera is restarted.
9) The calendar takes some time to getting used to but it sucks a little. Compared to the symbian calendar in which to-do notes and meetings were shown a few days or a week prior to it's date the calendar on the Lumia 800 shows the things a day before on the lock screen and to edit it you have to go to the calendar instead of the one touch option on the 5800.
10) No Bluetooth file transfer. No point of bluetooth other than to transfer contacts but files won't work.
11) No USB mode. I used to use my Nokia 5800 for everything, even as a portable USB drive. The Lumia 800 does not have that, you need a big, fat, cloggy software called Zune which no one cares about to transfer things. But hey, we have SkyDrive for that
12) Privacy! I was talking to a friend yesterday through the built-in chat and I typed in the word "RnB" in a sentence. I have never typed in that word into a pc or phone for years, I know it sounds stupid but I know I have not. I dont even listen to RnB. And guess what? Today on youtube I had 3 RnB adverts!! On an Xbox 360 game video?? Coincidence? Hell no!
13) Battery capacity decreases by a few digits every time I charge the phone. It should not happen that frequently.
14) Contacts confusion. The phone syncs all your contacts on your windows live, facebook and from your sim into one and imports them into your Hotmail account. That means that every single email address, name and number on your phone, facebook and hotmail is dumped into your phone, paired up with the same names and then uploaded onto your windows live address book. There is a filter option to sort between Hotmail and Facebook contacts but it does not leave you with the phone numbers you had on your sim, it just merges them. And also Facebook and Windows Live have that personal data too!
15) I have not found a way to bookmark or add pages to the favourites list
16) After a hard reset the phone does not vibrate or ring if I get a message while it is locked. Even with the settings changed and the volume set to full it will not ring, not even for a phone call. The only time it vibrates is if I receive a new Hotmail message.
17) After the hard-reset every time I screen lock the phone it will disconnect from any Wifi network. This did not happen before the hard-reset.
There may be a few more which I cannot remember lol but other than that it's a really nice phone!
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Maybe just a little pedantic?
Yeah, regarding the 16GB even I thought that when I had the iPhone 4, but that a mount that's already in use is your OS, sadly, I know, even I believe that we are mislead to believe that it actually contains 16GB.
As for your faults, their seems to be a lot of faults with your handsets that I don't seem to have, take it to a Nokia care point or mail them on their Nokia support website, I'm sure your phone's in warranty, if proved faulty, they'll easily replace your handset. That wi-fi and lock issue, I've started to notice recently too since the update, I think Nokia have done a cheeky one of saving battery like this, cutting off wi-fi, and my gf gives me a hard time for missing her texts..-_-
*EDIT* oh and yeah, I'm thinking of sending mine for a replacement if Nokia don't have an answer to this.
Lol yeah I guess so. Still why am I complaining I got it for free
Oh also it says it has 512mb RAM. It actually has 300 or something. :/
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Lol yeah I guess so. Still why am I complaining I got it for free
Oh also it says it has 512mb RAM. It actually has 300 or something. :/
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A fair amount of ram is reserved for the OS like on Android. Also about the disk space issue I don't think it's much to worry about.
Like prevoius poster said I think you are a bit picky about some faults. You also seem to have faults that does not exist on my phone.
My computer needs to be turned on for my alarm clock to work on it, too. My alarm clock (were I to have one) would need to be plugged into the wall to work. Of course, the phone has to be turned on for the alarm clock to work.
It's very likely that the 16GB is advertised the same way that hard drive capacities are advertised. They market 16,000,000,000 bytes as 16GB. Considered how computers read storage, that 16,000,000,000 is actually 14.9GB. Then remove whatever is required by the OS.
Windows Live does not import your Facebook contacts unless you indicate it too. Mine does not, has not, and will not merge my FB contacts to my Windows Live account.
Yes, Calendar sucks.
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My computer needs to be turned on for my alarm clock to work on it, too. My alarm clock (were I to have one) would need to be plugged into the wall to work. Of course, the phone has to be turned on for the alarm clock to work.
It's very likely that the 16GB is advertised the same way that hard drive capacities are advertised. They market 16,000,000,000 bytes as 16GB. Considered how computers read storage, that 16,000,000,000 is actually 14.9GB. Then remove whatever is required by the OS.
Windows Live does not import your Facebook contacts unless you indicate it too. Mine does not, has not, and will not merge my FB contacts to my Windows Live account.
Yes, Calendar sucks.
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The first bit you said is true but every other Nokia phone I know has turned itself on if the alarm time came. Why not this one? It's probably the Windows software, literally a computer lol
Thanks for the second and third bit it clears stuff up.
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The first bit you said is true but every other Nokia phone I know has turned itself on if the alarm time came. Why not this one? It's probably the Windows software, literally a computer lol
Thanks for the second and third bit it clears stuff up.
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Actually all modern smartphones don't have that feature anymore, regardless the software: it's the same on iOS, Android, BBOS, WebOS, MeeGo and more. The only devices sticking with that feature may be the Symbian ones, but I'm not sure because the last Symbian I used was some old N81, which was able to do that but I still don't know about newer Anna devices...many things may have changed.
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10) No Bluetooth file transfer. No point of bluetooth other than to transfer contacts but files won't work.
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I agree with this completely. How often do you even transfer contacts? Bluetooth in this device is a joke.
I bought L800 for my wife, and she wanted an Iphone 4 btw, and one of my arguments against it was that there is no functioning bluetooth, imagine my frustration when i found out there is in fact no BT in Lumia 800 too.
Btw, initially i really liked the device, i even considered getting one for myself, but now i'm absolutely not getting it.
I'm also dissappointed in camera too.
Bluetooth issues
I dont understand the whole blueooth complaint. How many times in your life would you transfer a file via buetooth. Welcome to the 21 century, use the cloud. So strange to hear people say they wont buy a phone because of a feature they might use once to transfer their contacts. I have my contacts synced with my Live account for years and every time I get a new phone or computer I put that account in and my contacts sync. Bluetooth file transfers???? Why??????
lol..i agree with cloud...but to say...here in our country...keeping connected to cloud is not very possible...so bluetooth id needed...lumia had a very big release here in our country and dey couldnt consider a bluetooth transfer..:/
sad...i hope it cums in an update as well as wifi hotspot..
also needs battery improvement...
waiting for modders to crack open the firmware...i need tools..i can help!!!
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I dont understand the whole blueooth complaint. How many times in your life would you transfer a file via buetooth. Welcome to the 21 century, use the cloud. So strange to hear people say they wont buy a phone because of a feature they might use once to transfer their contacts. I have my contacts synced with my Live account for years and every time I get a new phone or computer I put that account in and my contacts sync. Bluetooth file transfers???? Why??????
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What's so hard to understand? Cloud means data, more time, more money, and how other person is supposed to receive it? What if he has Symbian phone like me? Or S40 phone??
My phone is E72, my wife's Lumia 800, say she took a pic she wants to share with me, are you saying it's better and easier to use cloud than transfer it via bluetooth directly phone2phone? I'm sorry but that's a load of BS. You coundn't find any dumber excuse for missing BT.
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What's so hard to understand? Cloud means data, more time, more money, and how other person is supposed to receive it? What if he has Symbian phone like me? Or S40 phone??
My phone is E72, my wife's Lumia 800, say she took a pic she wants to share with me, are you saying it's better and easier to use cloud than transfer it via bluetooth directly phone2phone? I'm sorry but that's a load of BS. You coundn't find any dumber excuse for missing BT.
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Keep in mind that bluetooth OBEX is not a flaw of the Lumia, but is a shortcoming on the part of Windows Phone design. Also, iPhone cannot do this either. Can Android? I dunno, never tried.
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Keep in mind that bluetooth OBEX is not a flaw of the Lumia, but is a shortcoming on the part of Windows Phone design. Also, iPhone cannot do this either. Can Android? I dunno, never tried.
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Well, I bought Nokia, not Microsoft phone, and I paid my money to Nokia, not to MS, so it's Lumia's fault. All these years people are used to the fact that top line Nokia offers full functiong bluetooth.
Still, I get your point but if you have a laptop, you will see that Microsoft doesn't support full bluetooth there too, at least not on mine Vaio. For this purpose there is a bluetooth stack (mine is made by Toshiba) which is small software programm. So, all these excuses "it's not Nokia it's MS" are funny. There is a way around, not to mention their "special relationships" , I'm sure if Nokia insisted MS would do that stack specially for Nokia by themselves.
As for Iphone and Android I never tried it too, i've been using Nokias for last 10 years.
Still, after doing some research online it turns out there are some apps for Iphone that allow bluetooth files sharing, i think it's restricted to pictures and videos, no music files, though not sure about that. Also, you can do jailbreak and use full Bluetooth functions (by the way, there is whopping Bluetooth 4.0 in Ip4S, Lumia in comparison has ancient and slow ver 2.1,)
Android does it all by default, no apps, no hacking needed. Even a year old Galaxy S2 already has fast Bluetooth 3.0 HS (high speed). So, Lumia turns out complete looser and dissappointment in this regard. And did i mention crappy camera?
FFS, Nokia did not develop the OS in this case. Don't blame them for something they have no influence.
1orka said:
Well, I bought Nokia, not Microsoft phone, and I paid my money to Nokia, not to MS, so it's Lumia's fault. All these years people are used to the fact that top line Nokia offers full functiong bluetooth.
Still, I get your point but if you have a laptop, you will see that Microsoft doesn't support full bluetooth there too, at least not on mine Vaio. For this purpose there is a bluetooth stack (mine is made by Toshiba) which is small software programm. So, all these excuses "it's not Nokia it's MS" are funny. There is a way around, not to mention their "special relationships" , I'm sure if Nokia insisted MS would do that stack specially for Nokia by themselves.
As for Iphone and Android I never tried it too, i've been using Nokias for last 10 years.
Still, after doing some research online it turns out there are some apps for Iphone that allow bluetooth files sharing, i think it's restricted to pictures and videos, no music files, though not sure about that. Also, you can do jailbreak and use full Bluetooth functions (by the way, there is whopping Bluetooth 4.0 in Ip4S, Lumia in comparison has ancient and slow ver 2.1,)
Android does it all by default, no apps, no hacking needed. Even a year old Galaxy S2 already has fast Bluetooth 3.0 HS (high speed). So, Lumia turns out complete looser and dissappointment in this regard. And did i mention crappy camera?
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anseio said:
FFS, Nokia did not develop the OS in this case. Don't blame them for something they have no influence.
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Nokia is not some no name chinese brand, they have strategic cooperation with Microsoft so your attempts to make it look like there is no influence are ridiculous.
Even if indeed, there is not influece in OS development, there is a way around like making extra software to utilise missing bluetooth functions better.
They already have exclusive apps strictly for Nokia (Nokia drive for example, which uses GPS chip), same way they can make an app for Bluetooth too.
Your attemps as Nokias apologist are lame.
Christ, you have no clue about wp7, do you?
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Well, you could come up with something more intelligent, instead of this fake amazement and cheap shots.
1orka said:
Well, you could come up with something more intelligent, instead of this fake amazement and cheap shots.
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Well, what can I say? I'm surprised that you're making such a stink over such a small feature that NO Windows Phone currently has. Has it crossed your mind that it might be an OS limitation? Seriously, figure out a different alternative to OBEX. It's practically dead.
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anseio said:
Well, what can I say? I'm surprised that you're making such a stink over such a small feature that NO Windows Phone currently has. Has it crossed your mind that it might be an OS limitation? Seriously, figure out a different alternative to OBEX. It's practically dead.
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Well, if that feature is small to you, why try to force your opinion on others, to which it is important? Do you really think i'm the only one?? Go to Nokia forums and see all those complains. You can google "lumia bluetooth problems" too. You are not very helpful here, not suggesting any alternative, all you do is advocating Nokia and downplaying obvious drawbacks. Yours posts are irrelevant in this thread, which is dedicated to Lumias flaws.
And I don't want to repeat myself over again, may be you have problems with reading comprehension? Iphone has OS limitations too, yet there are ways around. And because "obex is dead" they put BT 4.0 in latest Iphone and so does Samsung, which already offers high speed file transfer via bluetooth for almost a year? Your argument is a joke, may be you are not very sociable or you live in cave, i don't know, but in Russia, where i live, file sharing is very popular, and there is no decent alternative to Bluetooth.
For lack of a better place to put this, I decided the Android Q/A was probably best. Anyway I'll get straight to the point. I'm attempting to create an HMD using an old Android phone. The problem is, even on a local network, all of the possible Remote Desktop apps seem to have unbearable lag. I cannot fix my network. I'm using Powerline Adapters. I put a WiFi router directly in the room I want to use the phone as an HMD and I've got a direct connection to the main router via Powerline on my PC. It's really as good as it's going to get. And yet I have noticeable lag even just moving my mouse around. So I don't really want suggestions on how to get wireless working better.
What I really want is a true one to one display. Almost like the phone is acting as a secondary monitor to my PC. So whatever my PC is displaying, my android shows with zero lag. That means directly connecting the device I'd imagine. The problem is, EVERY single possible way of wording this in my research seems to provide the exact opposite results of what I'm looking for. Google loves doing that to me. I say "Use Android as PC Monitor" and I get "How to display your Android on your PC monitor". That's just one example of the many different ways I got those same exact results.
So anyway, I would appreciate any direction someone could give me to figure this out. Thanks.
As an update, I just wanted to say I've found two apps that seem to do what I want, but they seem a little iffy. The first Twomon USB - USB Monitor, claims it does precisely what I want. However, the reviews are mixed with some saying it doesn't work. I'd rather not spend almost $10 on something iffy. I'd rather read things like "It connected with no problems and there's NO LAG."
Then the other one is ExtDisplay extend via Wifi/USB. This time it has a free version ExtDisplay Extend PC Display, but I hesitate to try it because of it doesn't have good reviews. I guess I'll try it and come back to this, but I just figured I'd give a little more details on what I'm looking for. These apps claim to be exactly what I'm looking for. Just don't seem to deliver.
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SelfDestructPro said:
As an update, I just wanted to say I've found two apps that seem to do what I want, but they seem a little iffy. The first Twomon USB - USB Monitor, claims it does precisely what I want. However, the reviews are mixed with some saying it doesn't work. I'd rather not spend almost $10 on something iffy. I'd rather read things like "It connected with no problems and there's NO LAG."
Then the other one is ExtDisplay extend via Wifi/USB. This time it has a free version ExtDisplay Extend PC Display, but I hesitate to try it because of it doesn't have good reviews. I guess I'll try it and come back to this, but I just figured I'd give a little more details on what I'm looking for. These apps claim to be exactly what I'm looking for. Just don't seem to deliver.
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Eliospeed said:
How did it go ?
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I ended up switching over to a program I'm sure all have heard by now. Trinus Gyre. Well now it's called TrinusVR. At any rate, it worked very well for a while, but my android phone's display is terrible. Trying to play anything is extremely pixelated to the point that I can't read text. I have however been looking out for a program with the same functionality for my iPhone because it has a much higher resolution. I did find one called KinoConsole. It works great and while currently I will use it from time to time for movies, I still can't really use it for gaming because again, text isn't easy to read. At this point I'm just holding out for a professional headset that won't break the bank. I kinda have my heart set on PlaystationVR because of the specs, but still don't know how much they're going to try to sell this thing for.
But, if you're still set on using an Android device, definitely try out TrinusVR. It's worth the money especially if you have a decent resolution.