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Hi everybody.
I've read at a couple of places that the Hero does not include any sim / phonebook remote access profiles which means I cannot sync my contacts with my Parrot CK3100 car kit.
I'm wondering if anyone knows why HTC would have removed this profile from their build when it was working perfectly as part of the standard cupcake build.
And also whether it is likely that HTC will reinstate this profile through future updates?
Speculation or definite answers welcome!
I'm also having this problem, as well as getting the phone to automatically reconnect when the phone and handset find eachother. Any body any ideas?
Ask Google why they STILL haven't added a full BT stack. It's the same for both the HTC Dream and HTC Magic aswell. UNLESS you wander the way of the rooters ofcourse. Then you will be able to use all those nifty little tools only the rooters can use.
I think that Google is a little bit slow on this subject tbh. But then again I have no idea of what they prioritize either. Maybe they have a BT stack but they feel it has some serious security issues? ONLY Google knows. Well... a couple of XDA's hardcore hackers might know too... isn't Haykuro around somewhere?
I have rooted my phone (yesterday). Can anyone suggest any tools that may help with this? Appreciate any help anyone cab give!
no problems here
hello i have just got my hero and im still learning the in's and outs of the device as i have come from a WM device, but have loads of success so far.
I have a in car bluetooth system and i have no problems with connecting, and searching my sim card for contacts.
The problem i do have though is that it will not read my phone contacts just the sim.
Its not a big problem as i on a regular basis back up the phone memory to the sim anyway in case i have to switch phones.
Im not sure why you guys are having problems but im happy to help in anyway.
I haven't rooted my device as i see no reason to just yet its all stock, and runs like a dream.
I have a ford mondeo with the STD sony system in it if that helps, oh and it connects as soon as i get in the vehicle
I think I may have cracked this:
I stuck a random contact on my SIM card, the Parrot handsfree now finds all of the contacts on the phone, and automatically links to the phone when in proximity. Odd, but adding that contact seems to have unlocked remote sim access.
Give it a try!
same here ... added one contact onto my sim, then full access to contacts!
Works very well with the Land Rover Bluetooth PTI (designed by Nokia as it happens). Full contact list navigation on the stereo head unit.
I am having a similar issue with an in car BT head unit. I have a Pioneer DEH-P7100BT. I have had problems connecting the hero to this. It starts contacts download and stops at contact number 14 for some reason. I have tried to delete the 14th contact but still gets stuck at 14. I have all my contacts backed up on the sim as well.
It is also proving to be an issue automatically connecting to the head unit when I get into the car. I resolve that by switching the BT off and then on again, then it connects OK. Not ideal.
The wifey has an Iphone 3GS and that connects to the unit every single time. No connection issues at all.
The BT Audio option works a charm with both the Hero and the 3GS. I usually play Last FM and Imeem over 3G and stream via BT to the head unit, pretty cool over all, if only I could sort out the connection issues with the HERO.
I just got the hero a couple of days ago, and although I am loving it, I really cant stand the lag in absolutely everything. I am having problems even accepting calls sometimes as it realises I have just clicked the receive call button after 10 seconds or so.
DJGurth said:
hello i have just got my hero and im still learning the in's and outs of the device as i have come from a WM device, but have loads of success so far.
I have a in car bluetooth system and i have no problems with connecting, and searching my sim card for contacts.
The problem i do have though is that it will not read my phone contacts just the sim.
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Mine does it the opposite way - reads the phone memory and not the sim memory. It's taken me 2 days to complete changing the profiles of people so far as I couldn't figure out why active sync wasn't working.
what are the odds that in the new version of android , the issue with bluetooth file transfer will be fixed ?
doubt it, i dont think its a bug but more a compagny policy.
they dont want you to send apps and games to oher phones
i think we have a better chance with the xda community here for developing/porting a proper bluetooth stack to our hero` s
there is a lot more you can do with a proper bluetooth stack than sending files, you know. so i doubt this is a company policy thing but rather a BIG failure to deliver what has been standard in mobile devices for years now. (especially for handsets in this price range)
coming from the iphone, i learned that all the "BT is necessary" chants were a bit overrated; I didn't know it was not possible until way after I upgraded to the 3G. I never used it or saw the need for it.
In the beginning BT filetransfer was 'cool'; "wow I can send a picture! or a MP3 !!"
But now I would just email it, even if the person is standing next to me.
A2DP I can understand. But all other functions like "cool! I can use my phone as a mouse for my computer!!" for me got old 4/5 years ago.
Still, if people want it, you could just write a program, no?
No, obviously it is not possible to "just write a program" if there is no API for Bluetooth file transfer and there is no information on how to do it without an API.
There are now several programs that can do BT file transfer on other Android phones, but none of them work on the Hero.
And you can use only mail if the receiver can also use mail. My BT carkit certainly can't use mail.
elmicha said:
No, obviously it is not possible to "just write a program" if there is no API for Bluetooth file transfer and there is no information on how to do it without an API.
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Well, almost true.
There's an app in the market called "Bluetooth File Transfer" which allows you to send and receive files by Bluetooth and doesn't require a rooted phone.
Sounds great, but.... (yes there's a but!)
You can only receive files being sent from another Android user via "Bluetooth File Transfer"
See http://www.medieval.it/content/view/61/85/
Regards,
Dave
Does it work on your Hero? It doesn't on mine (GSM Hero). The market description still says "Currently, doesn't work on HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy, but we are working on it." (http://www.cyrket.com/package/it.medieval.blueftp)
Same problem with Androbex: "Reported not to work on HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy. you can try yourself and tell us."
As far as I know, neither the Hero kernel nor a Hero image for the emulator is available at this time, so it is a lot more complicated to develop such things which are not covered by the API.
foxmeister said:
Well, almost true.
There's an app in the market called "Bluetooth File Transfer" which allows you to send and receive files by Bluetooth and doesn't require a rooted phone.
Sounds great, but.... (yes there's a but!)
You can only receive files being sent from another Android user via "Bluetooth File Transfer"
See http://www.medieval.it/content/view/61/85/
Regards,
Dave
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I have another but on this. It doesn't just have to be to another Android phone, I can easily send to my Sony Ericson & LG & Moto friend's phones.
Although I'm on a rooted G1, so take that with a grain of salt.
However you are right about not working on a Hero.
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I have another but on this. It doesn't just have to be to another Android phone, I can easily send to my Sony Ericson & LG & Moto friend's phones.
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As I said, it says that you can only *receive* files from another user of this software. I always presumed that sending would be ok!
However you are right about not working on a Hero.
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I installed it on my Hero, and it seems to run ok (i.e. no obvious errors) but as soon as I saw that I can only receive from another phone running this software, I dismissed it. I seldom use BT file transfer anyway, and this restriction would've made it pointless for the limited occasions that I might use it.
I will give it a try today though, and see what happens, but I'm also on a rooted device so this may make a difference.
Regards,
Dave
Ok, when I start the application it tells me that is has successfully started the "Bluetooth file receiving" and "Bluetooth file sharing" service.
However, I tried to pair with my laptop and I got an error message that it couldn't start the OBEX FTP service. So, it looks like it doesn't work at all for devices not running their software. I do wonder though if it would work between two devices running the software simply because it looks like they don't use OBEX FTP.
Regards,
Dave
maybe someone can make a wifi based peer to peer app FTP orso
at least then we can send stuff
I think dismissing it as simply being 'cool', is incorrect.
I know alot of people that arn't 'smartphone' savvy and don't have email accounts that they use on the phone or have internet access on the phone for that matter. They tend to use the phones mostly for (shock horror) making call and taking pics etc.
There have been several instances when they like a picture/video clip or something and want to send/receive via bluetooth.
They are somewhat surprised when I say I can't do that, especially after I've shown them all the other clever things I can do on the phone...
Zuber
Bluetooth
Begin rant:
I know everyone keeps saying you should sync your entire life with Google's servers (as that’s the point of having an Internet device) but there are times when a quick sync with Outlook (or another client) is desirable just to back-up your contacts or to grab a file/contact through the use of Bluetooth. Hell, that’s what the technology was created for!
Yes, I know everything is online with Android, but using BT to sync is something I took for granted with my Win Mobiles and Symbian devices. With me it’s a privacy issue, I don't want my entire life to be blasted off into the ether, transmitted across the globe, stored on a sever (in a country for which server security may not be a top priority i.e. Korea) and back again just to ensure my phone calendar is up-to-date with my computer's calendar.
From my phone in my pocket to the computer sitting less than a foot away on my desk, Bluetooth seems the best solution.
Yes, there's USB but that means plugging in a cable...
End Rant.
If you have a WiFi router (or access point) it's possible to use an ftp server on the hero and an ftp client on the desktop (or vice versa). See FTPServer and SwiFTP Server for ftp servers.
I didn't try aFileSync yet, but from the description it looks nice.
But this doesn't help if you don't have a WiFi router avaliable, although WiFi ad-hoc mode might be possible with android-wifi-tether on rooted phones. And Wifi ad-hoc mode doesn't help if the other end has only Bluetooth.
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From my phone in my pocket to the computer sitting less than a foot away on my desk, Bluetooth seems the best solution.
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To be honest, it's probably partially Apples fault as it took them ages to get something half resembling Bluetooth into their iPhones. Given the take up of the iPhone, it does go to show that much of the market can just live without it.
Googles "excuse", way back more than a year ago, was that they hadn't quite finalized the API and so they shipped the G1 with only support for headsets. Skip forward a year, and they've only only added a couple more profiles to their bluetooth stack, which is pretty poor going for a multi-bazillion dollar organization!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
To be honest, it's probably partially Apples fault as it took them ages to get something half resembling Bluetooth into their iPhones. Given the take up of the iPhone, it does go to show that much of the market can just live without it.
Googles "excuse", way back more than a year ago, was that they hadn't quite finalized the API and so they shipped the G1 with only support for headsets. Skip forward a year, and they've only only added a couple more profiles to their bluetooth stack, which is pretty poor going for a multi-bazillion dollar organization!
Regards,
Dave
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True, I know its a feature that (some) of us expect but at the end of the day the Android OS is still in its infancy. Give me Android over Symbian (which I've been using for the last couple of years) any day!
It would be nice to see things like OBEX implemented into the OS (perhaps in a future release?). But for all the small picky things that its missing, Android makes up for its 'downfalls' in a million other ways. I certainly would not switch now, I just hope that Google, HTC and all the freelance Dev's keep up their amazing work.
One final word: I'd still like to Sync with Bluetooth though!
This is not just a cool feature, it is an expected feature. To have a smartphone released without that is ridiculous, in this day and age. Unlike Apple, who have ideological reasons why they dont want it, I dont believe that Google have any reason; it is just a massive slip up, probably because they werent thinking globally.
It is the most starred/wanted issue in the Android bug/development list, higher than anything else which shows that it is pretty important to tech- savvy users as well as the average joe who takes it for granted.
People simply expect this standard functionality to be there. I never fail to be embarrassed when someone asks me to bluetooth a photo to their crappy Nokia and I admit I cannot.
I could on my Jam, I could on my Touch, I could on my Diamond, but I cant on my Hero. Pathetic.
bluetooth obex on donut 1.6
hey i have been looking all over for an up to date blog on android obex development. I notice many of you guys are complaining about not having the capability. Look up Medieval software app that is freeware in the Android Market, and also have a webpage. I have used them for windows mobile. I have seen sites where people have created their own stacks and have directions to help you. I would be interested on learning how to actually do this. I know cupcake had a directory and stack for this. I would like to know if any of you know anything for the donut build. Every time I connect to my pc from medieval via my G1, i get this error "Service not found, you can't connect with target device because it lacks of the obex ftp bluetooth service"....oddly however when i linked up this app it allowed a stack to become visible underneath the vista bluetooth properties on the G1 device. it had handset and file transfer which i selected because it wasnt. Actually as im writing this i just checked again to verify the name and now i have another one! Object push! wow. so i will keep you posted. going to try harder. i think this program will work. thanks
Idea
Correct me if I'm wrong but seeing as the Blueooth standard is open and Android is opensource, how much time/effort/cost would it involve in a 3rd party dev like MoDaCo/Cyanogen implementing additional protocols into the BT stack?
A custom ROM with this feature would be an instant hit. I'd make a donation to anyone developing such a feature.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but seeing as the Blueooth standard is open and Android is opensource, how much time/effort/cost would it involve in a 3rd party dev like MoDaCo/Cyanogen implementing additional protocols into the BT stack?
A custom ROM with this feature would be an instant hit. I'd make a donation to anyone developing such a feature.
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Well, it can totally be done. Im pretty sure people have made steps to do this and some 1.5 cupcake roms had support. There is many BT stacks out there and are dependent on the more primitive driver, known as the API. The Kernel is the base framework which is chosen for these Roms. Most rom developers like Cyanogen pick a certain one to fulfill an obligation, ex speed, Hero, experimiental. From what I get on here is that many of the top rom developers dont care much about BT and alot of people are waiting for BT 3.0. So in short i behind what you stated and maybe we could start a donation fund towards a developer that would be willing. Maybe theres already someone out there even! Alot is changing with Android, its exploding.
Just wondering if anyone knows of a ROM that allready has Internet Calling (VOIP) installed and working. Been trying forever to get this to work!
Thanks
I wish this feature would work 2 but 4 now I use SKYPE it's wonderful u can use it on many phones and computers it's GREEEAAAT ...
Yes, I have Skype and Fring as well but I would just like to have the VoIP on the phone working, it seems a little like VooDoo to get that thing running for some reason.
I could cook it in a rom specially for you if you are willing to buy me coffee .
I would love this too.
I now have two of these CDMA Touch Pro 2's that I wanna use around the house / office on my asterisk box.
let me know what you can hook up for a sweet rom that can have the VOIP built in as well as some other great things for texting without a carrier plan if possible and also some other great things like IRC and maybe palringo type apps.
thanks,
Nathan...
PM me or IM me about this if need b.
CDMA over GSM
I think, if I am understanding correctly, that you are asking for the video phone calls that the GSM networks offer...
We in the USA have CDMA and not GSM, CDMA network does not support video calls or video conferencing as the TP and TP2 have offered for European models. We are behind in technology and towers. I think they will eventually change the networks and give us something better.
As of now, I think that AT&T is the only one that is offering surfing the internet and talking on the phone, but I believe those are on their international phones. (not sure so dont quote me on that). But that offer still does not give you options to do video conferencing or anything of the sort.
In short, were screwed out of all these beautiful features because we are in a CDMA enabled location... Thinking about it, forget this, im moving to Amsterdam!!!
not me. I understand that the CDMA service in the US sucks. I am going to just use mine as a "extension to my asterisk box. so it is only going to be Wi-Fi only use. not cell service. thats what I have my new HTC Tilt 2 with AT&T for.
thanks,
nathan
- EZThunder, just let me know what coffee costs in your neighborhood !
-MapAZ04 - Nope, just want the native Windows VoIP to work on the phone over WiFi connections. My phone isn't even provisioned with a providor anymore, I just want to use it as a VoIP WiFI phone, otherwise it's not good for much. I'd like to be able to use this phone when traveling, using my VoIP connection to call home etc on.
It does work with Skype and Fring, but they are a little bit of a workaround because the phone is supposed to support SIP natively and the other two programs have their drawbacks.
I didn't realize WM supports SIP natively.
hammtech said:
- EZThunder, just let me know what coffee costs in your neighborhood !
-MapAZ04 - Nope, just want the native Windows VoIP to work on the phone over WiFi connections. My phone isn't even provisioned with a providor anymore, I just want to use it as a VoIP WiFI phone, otherwise it's not good for much. I'd like to be able to use this phone when traveling, using my VoIP connection to call home etc on.
It does work with Skype and Fring, but they are a little bit of a workaround because the phone is supposed to support SIP natively and the other two programs have their drawbacks.
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this is exactly what I was trying to say, just in much fewer words
so let me know what some coffee runs around your neck of the woods if you can throw together something like I was saying.
thanks,
nathan
I will donate $50 to the cause, but with a twist...
Make it a simple cab to work on all roms and phones.
I have tested about 10 roms today, (Not just me LOL, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618486&highlight=voip) I would install SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB & WM6VoIP.CAB & even SecondToday.CAB on roms with different Today skins.. (Touch Flow or whatever)...
On all roms, the today plug in "Internet calling" would not show.
I think the verizon and sprint must have sabatouged the possibility of VOIP or something.
Here is what I want.
I want the ability to switch between regular cell calls and VOIP.
A simple file edit or GUI like the gOD Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB
Can be switched from VOIP over WIFI or VOIP over reg cell data or reg cell phone via a button or a Today plug in..
To be able to use my Blue tooth headset.
Not use a third party app,, just the defualt - built in phone dialer so the ringing and other stuff.
Or a third party app that does not slow things down, activate your WIFI.. (like fring) and that wakes your phone up for a call, yet allows it to sleep to save on battery life.
Hell everyone is doing VOIP now days, especially with the Windows based VOIP server that will even run on Windows XP. www.3CX.com .... Its free.. I use it and we only use the softphone and a BUA-100 Plantronics BT USB device and www.JAWBONE.com and the quality is the best thing out there and you can answer and hang up by a click on the side of the BT headset, just like your cell phone, so you can keep your hands free and not have to sit by your computer.
Every rom I tried, the Today plug in did not work. I am trying this now as I type http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574521 looks hopefull and maybe I will not have to pay $50.
Like most, I would try Shaun33 SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB and give up. I know I have tried the SipConfigTool_2_0_1.CAB & WM6VoIP.CAB on AT LEAST 12 phones over the last 3 or so years and never had success, so i just gave up..
Enough, I need it now and I will pay.
Ya, F it. I tried following the instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574521 to a T, and I am not an idiot!
The phone companies want you to use their network, because that is how they make money.
Maybe your UK phones are different, but USA is driven by GRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!
$50 from me, who else is in?
hmmm, maybe this is why it will not work on sprint - verizon...
"The SIP VoIP build in WM 6.x supports only GSM (13.2 kbps) / g711alaw (64 kbps) / g711-ulaw (64 kbps) codecs"
from http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=61730
EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu.
can some gOD tweak the deep level stuff?
ppaa, ppaaaaaaaaaaa,,, PPPPLLLELELELLEAAASEEEE!!!
dewild1 said:
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$50 from me, who else is in?
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I'm looking for exactly what you are, so I'd be in too. I just bought a VoIP WIFI phone that looks like a cell phone from 1998 - I'd love to get one phone that does it all so I'm not carying around a bunch of phones and all of the tangled mess that goes with it.
dewild1 said:
hmmm, maybe this is why it will not work on sprint - verizon...
"The SIP VoIP build in WM 6.x supports only GSM (13.2 kbps) / g711alaw (64 kbps) / g711-ulaw (64 kbps) codecs"
from http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=61730
EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu.
can some gOD tweak the deep level stuff?
ppaa, ppaaaaaaaaaaa,,, PPPPLLLELELELLEAAASEEEE!!!
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Why would supporting GSM be an issue if VoIP can be used over Wifi?
Anyways, I will give it a shot and send you the beta rom. However, since I have no way of testing this thing (as I no longer have a Herman), you will have to give me feedback to let me know whether it works or not.
In the meantime, I am going to try a few different things in my Blue Angel (I know it is GSM, but I do not have a chip in there, so in theory it will work... in fact, it has worked in the past, only I did not want to pay for VoIP service)
this thread cracks me up...
One guy starts a thread & leaves out all of the important info & another talking about greed while offering up $50! LOL
Not even sure what you guys are after anymore..
But... you know the Touch Pro 2 does both GSM (in the U.S) & CDMA both (when unlocked @ ppcgeeks).... dunno, another couple of cents
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But... you know the Touch Pro 2 does both GSM (in the U.S) & CDMA both (when unlocked @ ppcgeeks).... dunno, another couple of cents
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Maybe so, but these people here have TP and not TP2. Besides, what the OP wants is the ability to use VoIP. At no point is anyone in this thread saying anything about wanting CDMA and GSM functionality.
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Maybe so, but these people here have TP and not TP2. Besides, what the OP wants is the ability to use VoIP. At no point is anyone in this thread saying anything about wanting CDMA and GSM functionality.
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correct.
I jusjt want to use some WiFi type apps and mostly the VOIP functionality of the phone as it will be used as an extension to my asterisk box
egzthunder1 said:
Why would supporting GSM be an issue if VoIP can be used over Wifi?
Anyways, I will give it a shot and send you the beta rom. However, since I have no way of testing this thing (as I no longer have a Herman), you will have to give me feedback to let me know whether it works or not.
In the meantime, I am going to try a few different things in my Blue Angel (I know it is GSM, but I do not have a chip in there, so in theory it will work... in fact, it has worked in the past, only I did not want to pay for VoIP service)
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Key line...
"EDIT: daaaa deerr da derr.. Codecs.. Not TDMA-CDMA ****.. duu."
I did not have my head on right is what I was saying.
GSM or CDMA do nto mean anything. I read something about "GSM Codecs" and they were just talking about a compression lable. In VOIP its just compression and qaulity..
Never mind all that...
I would like one that works over WIFI or the cell network,(GSM or CDMA or TDMA or 4G or whatever, its a connection, sorry for the confusion)
I will check my PM.. If no body made it already, I will repost to keep the DREAM ALIVE! lol
Remeber, I think someone should make one that works with the default dialer and uses whatever built in sound device the phone uses.. This way it would work with any hardware and and ROM.. Whoever makes one like that, will be rich, I say there is a big demand for it.. Fring sucks.
Had VoIP Working!
I did manage to get this working by installing:
WM6VoIPFull.cab
Setup_VoIP_v0.3.cab
On my phone. However. I had just set it up with one trunk line and used it for a week or so. When I tried switching it to my working PBX with a tested valid account, it stopped working alltogether again. So I've spent the past few days on the road trying to get this working again, but with no luck at all. Maybe it is a combination of installing every VoIP enabler file I could find that got it working the first time, but for the life of me I can't even get it to work again with the trunk line.
Is there anyone out there that knows what registry keys have to be enabled to get this to work? I don't care if I have to set a key and then set it to read only to keep it on, I just want it to work
Also, is there a newer version of Setup_VoIP? That version never shows anything under the dialing plan tab no matter what I do.
I've tried everything to get this working again, including post number 9 at the following link:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
It sets the ServiceOn registry key and everything looks good, just no VoIP on the phone.
Also, if anyone is interested, the phone is not hitting the PBX at all, so it is not even attempting to make a connection (it is not AUTH failing or anything like that).
Hi,
according to following thread I got a question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=783961
The HTCSense Service has launched now. My question is, will it work on a HD2? Do you need any updates oder something else?
And my next question is, which of these things are still working on the HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
-> I know, that the loudness control of the ringtone is supported, but which of these things will work too?
And the most important thing which should work is the remote lock ability. Will this be possible on HD2? - still answered by myself!
Has anyone detailed information or maybe tried this service?
I preffer to buy a HD2 because this phone is the most capable for my requirements, and if HTCSense-Service is working too, I will buy it instantly
Greez zyclop
Edit: I have found some Information on the HTCSense.com page itself. Supported devices are currently only Desire HD and Desire Z.
Anyone knows if older devices will supported in future? Because e.g. Desire is the same as Desire Z except the keyboard!
i think its android only.............
Hmm, every device manufacturer sets focus on developing and improve Android or Windows Phone 7 devices. Why do they all forget WM 6.5 which is still not dead. That this will not work on WP 7 is clear, because of the restrictions WP 7 brings by itself. But for Windows Mobile 6.5 it would be possible to implement, maybe there is any equivalent solution to manage data and security via web-frontend?!
There is still another question unanswered:
Which of these features work with HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I passed my question about support of older/further devices to HTC, I'll post their reply as soon as I got answer.
Edit:
Microsoft My Phone is doing exactly the same what HTCSense.com provides. But it would be very great if I can synchronize my stuff witch HTC, and re-synchronize it with another phone, maybe an Android device in future. Or a Windows Phone 7 device... today I don't know which device will be my next. So therefor this would be very great.
Has anyone ever tried Microsoft My Phone or any other service to save phone data and lock phone if it gets lost/stolen?
zyclop said:
Hmm, every device manufacturer sets focus on developing and improve Android or Windows Phone 7 devices. Why do they all forget WM 6.5 which is still not dead. That this will not work on WP 7 is clear, because of the restrictions WP 7 brings by itself. But for Windows Mobile 6.5 it would be possible to implement, maybe there is any equivalent solution to manage data and security via web-frontend?!
There is still another question unanswered:
Which of these features work with HD2?
http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I passed my question about support of older/further devices to HTC, I'll post their reply as soon as I got answer.
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Microsoft My Phone is doing exactly the same what HTCSense.com provides. But it would be very great if I can synchronize my stuff witch HTC, and re-synchronize it with another phone, maybe an Android device in future. Or a Windows Phone 7 device... today I don't know which device will be my next. So therefor this would be very great.
Has anyone ever tried Microsoft My Phone or any other service to save phone data and lock phone if it gets lost/stolen?
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I use microsoft my phone whenever I have to hard reset and it has always been very reliable......... basic but reliable........
The whole point of the htc sense web side of things is just to try and tempt people into moving to a htc device........
Although 6.5 might not be "dead" as far as xda is concerned, htc however probably do not really care about 6.5 anymore, there certainly will not be anymore 6.5 handsets released.......
Anything that can be acheived through sense.com can already be acheived through 3rd party app already available for 6.5.......
Okay, you think, the HD2 is the best choice if I want to have a WM6.5 device? Or should I wait for newer devices? Or will there never be new devices? I really don't like any other OS than WM, because it has many advantages, I guess more than any other OS.
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I even read the page from HTC again and there are only 4 points important to me. So which are working with HD2, too?
1. "Ever fumbled with your phone because it went off at full-blast during a meeting? Well, don’t worry! Now as soon as you lift your phone up to see who’s calling, the ringer volume gets lower. Want it silenced completely? Just flip it over."
2. "When you don’t want to miss that special call, your phone knows when and how to get your attention. For example, if it’s tucked away in your bag it will know to ring louder."
3. "Now when you look to see who’s calling, you get to see their latest social status updates or if they have a birthday coming up. The conversation starts before you say hello!"
4. "Don’t worry about missing the next turn when a call comes in. Your map stays on screen while a call bar gently slides its way into view."
All points can be found on http://www.htc.com/uk/htcsense/index.html
I'm not sure, but I think point 1 and 2 are working - are they? A few months ago I got a HD2 from my company. But I weren't able to check all of the stuff... Now I changed the company and don't have a HD2 anymore. I really want to have it to detach my XPERIA X1.
I dont think any new 6.5 devices will be released so yeah the HHD2 is definetely your best bet.........
1 + 2 are working.....
3 doesnt Im afraid.....
I dont know about 4 as I dont use my my phone for navigation, not yet anyway....
I use my phone as navi only in foreign cars, because my own car has a built in navi
Maybe anyone knows whether this is working or not.
Do you know which version of Sens/Manila is installed on latest HD2 stock rom? And is there any page or wiki, where I can see all the features of this version?
I hate to ask this but after returning my HTC One X back and while waiting for a refund which I don't even know if I'll ever get, I better ask this question before doing the same mistake again. Well, I returned my HOX because GPS was unusable. Not just on my phone, basically HOX doesn't really have GPS. It only has it as a decorative feature but there is no way you can use it for navigation. Such issue definitely can't be fixed with a software fix so I decided to return it and see forward to SG SIII.
What I wanted to ask is, are there any serious hardware issues with SIII as well that should stop me from buying it? I don't mean issues like instability (or network errors) with S-Voice and similar things that could be solved in the near future with software updates. I mean real hardware issues like the one I described above that make you believe they won't ever be fixed because it's impossible.
Now I come from HTC only background so I may miss some things from Samsung. I therefore need to ask the following simple questions as well:
- Does Samsung offer a sync software similar to HTC Sync? (That will allow you to sync with Outlook)
- Is the SGSIII fully rootable (with S-OFF bootloader)
- 2-way call recording works (is there a kernel hack or does it work/not by default)?
- Anyone used iGo navigation with success?
Those are my requirements so if it fulfills them and there are no issues, that's enough for me to buy this phone.
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Just like to join in as I am wondering the same things, for the same reasons. Except I'd say GPs absolutely does work in the One X, so I suspect you had the antenna disconnection problem. Mine was in for repair 4 times for this (WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS) and on the 5th incident I asked for a refund. HTC have actually said this is a known problem they can now fix.
Otherwise, just like to watch this thread while I also wait for a refund..
All the problems I've noticed are all software related and heard no real complaints about hardware except for some occasional whining about design and the back cover being a bit fragile, and the GPS is by far the best I've ever used for lock speed and indoor/blocked reception.
So far I've had 0 hardware issues. You seem like GPS functioning well is what you are wondering as well? I have the Navigon app and have used it with data turned off and GPS+data and both work great I was a bit worried coming from the S2 as I found it's GPS to be spotty at best.
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What I wanted to ask is, are there any serious hardware issues with SIII as well that should stop me from buying it?
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Now I come from HTC only background so I may miss some things from Samsung. I therefore need to ask the following simple questions as well:
- Does Samsung offer a sync software similar to HTC Sync? (That will allow you to sync with Outlook)
KIES but not 100% sure on Outlook
- Is the SGSIII fully rootable (with S-OFF bootloader)
Fully rootable but not with HTC tools .
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- Anyone used iGo navigation with success?
Igo post in Themes but problems might be IGO needing to update .
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iGO works just perfect for me.
Hi
I returned 4 HOX'S for various problems, so I got the galaxy s3, had it for 4 weeks and had no issues, fantastic phone, I use endomondo all the time again no issues with GPS. In the last 8 months I've had 9 different phones to try and find the right one and this is a keeper.
Hope it helps....
I recently "defected" from HTC to this, my first Samsung.
I would like to address the question about Sync'ing with Outlook.
The wretched application provided by HTC for this purpose always annoyed me. It had the nasty habit of modifying contact details and appointments in Outlook even though I had carefully set it not to touch them.
The equivalent program for Samsung (KIES) is not perfect, but it Sync'ed my Outlook contacts perfectly with no undesirable side-effects.
I'm really glad I switched to the GS3.
For such a leading-edge product that has not been released very long, there are surprisingly few bugs. GPS is the best I've ever seen (and I've seen a few!)