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I don't know if all of you are facing the same problem. I am using a Dopod 818 PRO upgraded to WM 6.1 (Green Edition 15.4.08 Update) currently but I have tried almost every other WM 6.1 ROM out there, all seem to be giving me the same problem.
When I start typing a message, it stores commonly used sentences, words etc fast and with ease but I notice once the T9 dictionary becomes larger in size(more words in it), the response starts becoming slower and does not take in input as fast as its initial one.
This problem can be overcomed once I enter the Input properties and "Clear Stored Entries" but then it starts from scratch without any user defined words in it.
Any suggestions other than disabling the suggested words option? It's really handy and I like it very much but the only annoyance is that I type fast and the lag is kinda irritating. Thanks!
Actually that is the same case for me.. And since i type pretty fast with PhonePad, the slow speed has forced me to go back to WM6.. And i have also tried almost every wm6.1 rom out there!
Its not much slower in WM6.1 than WM6, but its noticeable especially if you type fast..
yeah.. oh well =( we'd just have to wait for some genius here to figure something out.
Cheers
blame your prophet's weak 200mhz TI-OMAP processor..
thats the problem..
thats why i prefer using keyboard than phonepad
blame your prophet's weak 200mhz TI-OMAP processor..
thats the problem..
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Two points: one, it's clocked at 195 in the Prophet; two, the same software works fine on newer HTC Devices (the HTC Touch uses the same OMAP 850 but clocked at 201MHz).
Which leads me to believe it is to do with the specific exes/dlls, and where they have been ported from.
registry error?
i think this caused it
So only option now is to downgrade to WM6?
But I have no heart to do so! 6.1 is wayyy better in almost every way
had the same problem what i did and helped a lot was disabling the key sounds
then it came fast again.... hope this help
thanks.. will try it =)
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
Thanks for the info. I love DCD roms, but I'm really wondering about this new WM6.5 rom. It would be nice to hear some more comments from others about each. Thanks!
Not so much an opinion as an educated comment...
I think that you are going to find that WM6.5 (and IE8) are just plain designed for devices with more RAM than the Titan's 64MB. It's a hardware limitation that is just going to be difficult to get past. Compare it to running Vista on an older desktop box with only 512MB of RAM... it will work, and look pretty, but it will be very limited. Vista (and WM6.5) were designed around hardware that is unfortunately higher horsepower than older machines like the desktop I used as an example above (in the case of Vista) and the Titan (in the case of WM6.5) have.
It'll be fun to play with (I haven't tried it yet) but expecting it to be a reliable daily driver on the Titan is probably asking a bit much. I found the same thing with Opera 9.5... it is beautiful, and the best mobile browser I have ever seen, but the Titan just can't run it effectively (without the low memory errors).
were getting pretty close on the memory but your right the 6800 got the shaft on the ram dept.
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D
I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
and even with M2D loaded and 18.8MB free at bootup, I am still able to run
google map, sms\mms and IE plus Activesync running .. with no issues..
also runs my TomTom without any issues.. plus 6.5 runs faster as well overall..
granted as you keep loading more apps if you go to task mng, just by opening
task mng. it close some apps .. if you flip to and from your apps you'll see they
are still running .. well my experience anyways...
I use my phone just like if its a PC .. hell this post if from my phone.. the new IE is damm sweet...
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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It might be better to compare WM 6.5 to Windows 7 instead of Vista.
Running Windows Vista on an old/slow computer is a horribly bad idea. However in beta testing Windows 7 I installed it on a Celeron M laptop with only 1gb of ram and it ran like a dream (without Aero). My boot up and loading times were equal to XP. So if WM 6.5 is designed correctly, it could work just fine on our devices.
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
mr-free said:
don't know why you have memory issues.. when I build WM6.5 without M2D I get 25.6MB FREE ram .. without Hibernate..
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What do you mean without hibernate? I guess that might be a noob question sorry. 25.6 would be even better than DCD roms. Wow.
hibernate refers to oxios hibernate which releases memory to help make your phone run faster
sudermatt said:
I loaded DCD 4.1.2 and liked it. I was REALLY excited about the new 6.5 ROM. While I haven't built my own ROMs, My little mogul has been cooked more times than I can think of.
Here are my thoughts on these two ROMs
DCD
Pros:
GREAT memory and management: 26 mgs available at boot:
I can run Audio Manager, Live Search, Netfront browser, and send and receive text....with neither of them closing.
Cons:
See Pros below
Windows 6.5
Pros:
Integrated Touchflow.
IE8 with Flash
It really does seem faster for some things.
Cons:
Terrible memory and management. Even with Manilla NOT loaded, I only have about 19.5 megs at boot up (even with Hibernate). I can only run one program at once (basically).
Conclusion:
I would rather have the memory than IE8.
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WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
ebb said:
The only thing that has me hesitating on 6.5 is that from reading the threads where this was first posted, this a very early release. Since it seems there will be a production version from MSFT floating around within another few weeks, maybe these memory issues will be more manageable, with perhaps some additional features? And no doubt there will be a DCD 6.5 eventually as well, either with this version or a later one.
Serious Props to those that are working hard to get it going now, but I have a feeling there will be better to work with in the near future.
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the main part of 6.5 is done .. whats left is the interface, the build number
will may go up once the interface is added however there is no memory issues
I know of .. other than the first few beta 1-3 release that has the nueKernel
(a 3rd party programs that cause memory issues .. not the 6.5 kernel !!)
that add was removed from beta-4 and no more issues ..
Also note, after the new interface is added to WM6.5 I believe it will be strip out anyways
at it will be built for VGA or higher PDA's and even if there is a QVGA version
its going to require a ton of memory anyways!! what you will be left with is
whats out now anyways!! thus DCD 6.5 may end up being on this same built!!
vickylife007 said:
WM6.5 beta 4 has great memory management. I have been testing it for 17hrs now and am just blown away by its speed. IE8 is awesome. No more WM6.1, I have moved on, you will too, trust me.
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x2 ..
check this thead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477525
Da_G
As Anryl said, 220xx is based on RTM (21234), as such is old, and it's SEMC branch (Sony Ericsson) - incorporating their requested changes (that slider on cHome being one of them)
I think you are mistaking "RAM Cleanup" for "Not running test code used to add new features" - indeed if this is your priority you really should be using the RTM build 21234 instead of test builds
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So I start school again in a few days and I would like to build a solid ROM. I have been running at least every other kitchen from Da_G and I can't remember the best ones. I remember one rom booted with 28% memory (typical now is 34+%). If I remember right 21234 WAS a great rom, any suggestions?
I plan on using this guide to "trim the fat." I like a light ROM, no msvc or tf3d, super light.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelOEMDefaultPackages
23016 seems quite famous, but I am using 21928, but to be serious, as a daily user I hardly care about builds but about those cardinal issues which are still unsolved like battery,stability etc. Although some of chefs did well but the age which Josh, Medkid or Abu, brought to Kaiser is still missing. Dont know if this paragraph going to help you but its more like an observation of an heavy Touch Pro user.
Good Luck...
thanks
Thanks for your input. This morning I put together a clean Rom from 21932 and it runs and boots at 26% mem! Nice but the little magnifier is annoying.
I stuck with 21222 w/21510 SYS & XIP fo rits stability.
Yea I like 21222... but the later 23xxx builds are quite nice too. The 23xxx builds have a lot of new functionality like movable start menu icons and now are beginning to look VERY different with the X/Ok buttons on the bottom taskbar.
My current build is 23016 which runs pretty well. I am going to start toying around with 23025 because of all its new features. I think for stability though 21222 and 23016 are my favorites. Both are some of the fastest builds I've tested, 21222 being the best but lacking some features.
I am not completely new to the flashing scene, had an MWG Atom Life before, and now changed to XDA Star (Dual Touch) and flashed both devices many times. But what i do not understand: What is the difference between the various Roms? At the moment i have installed version 23517 on my Niki and like it very much, but there are more versions like 28205 or 23619 or similar numbers. What i want to know is, are there other spefications,are they faster or slower, is there different third party software or why do they all exist parallel? Iwould like to get an answer to all my stupid Questions and say ThankYou to all posters. Best regards from Germany!!
Hubie53
It's a good question, possibly a good thread.
There are a lot of ROM floating around, and not all of them earn the name stable ROM.
Most of them seem to only do cosmetic adjustments, nothing wrong with that at all.
Other ROM's really seem intend to make it faster, better or with added functionality.
Would an interesting list:
-Stable
-Unstable
-Beta/Experimental
-Cosmetic
-New features/Core
-Fast
-Other OS
-Small Package
-Big/Full Package
-Version/Release Date
-Core version
..
Hi guys.
I want to cook a rom for my device because I want to pass from Windows Mobile 6 to Windows Phone 7.
My phone can do this because has High Resolution Touchscreen (WVGA).
But it's Landscape... I don't know if this is a problem (I think no).
How can I cook a W.P. Rom?
Thanks
afaik, you will need to build a bootloader that can load wp7.
and afaik, only the legendary HD2 got wp7 using magldr bootloader (thanks Cotulla!) and toshiba tg01 (thanks Nokser?)
HD2 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531
TG01 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=572
and btw, there are no open source bootloaders for wp7, so i think it will be almost impossible to do, unless you have supernatural bootloader knowledge. and the device's specs should be similar to wp7 devices (at least cpu qsd8250, like other devices) so that drivers work, else it would become more impossible
Thanks Gilbert32, but I think is possible to use WP 7 on my device.
I have a Toshiba Portege G910 with a 400 mhz cpu and on Youtube I've seen a guy that have inserted Android on a Toshiba G900 (very similar to my device and with the same cpu).
Windows Phone is faster and stable than Android, so it's really possible to port WP on my device.
Mich-C said:
Thanks Gilbert32, but I think is possible to use WP 7 on my device.
I have a Toshiba Portege G910 with a 400 mhz cpu and on Youtube I've seen a guy that have inserted Android on a Toshiba G900 (very similar to my device and with the same cpu).
Windows Phone is faster and stable than Android, so it's really possible to port WP on my device.
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Hours and hours of work, no, that I say months and months of work => imposible !
Thanks hBk0dY
If anyone want to start this project...
Mich-C said:
Windows Phone is faster and stable than Android, so it's really possible to port WP on my device.
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Mich-C said:
I have...G910 with a 400 mhz cpu...
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Even if we forget for a moment about the need to write custom bootloader and your absolutely miserable XIP address space (consists of 2 slots) - your 400 MHz is a pain in ass even for WM 6.5. I know this because I cooked 6.5 for 400 MHz device...... It was not good even when I overclocked CPU to 520.
WP7.x is sometimes lagging even on my wife's Mozart (1000 MHz, Scorpion). So - try to imagine how it can work on your 400 MHz. WP is pretty acceptable on my Titan - fluent and fast. But not less. But ok....
WP on your WM6 device is impossible even after years and years of attempts.
Ok AndrewSh.
But I want to cook a WM 6.5 or 6.5.5 rom for my device.
What do you think about it? I have read that WM 6.5 hasn't devolped well and is even slower than older older WM versions...
Mich-C said:
Ok AndrewSh.
But I want to cook a WM 6.5 or 6.5.5 rom for my device.
What do you think about it? I have read that WM 6.5 hasn't devolped well and is even slower than older older WM versions...
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I have only Asus P525 experience - I mean using WM6.5.x instead of stock WM6.0. So I would say - device will be fully usable if you don't cook in Titanium interface. If you decide to cook in Titanium - overclocking to 520 MHz makes device also usable. But for sure - no way to use Manila or whatever - device starts and works but..... It's just for fun. Besides - you should explore OEMXip - try to find modules that you can move to IMGFS without harm.
Of course - optimized WM6.0 would work faster on your device than 6.5.x.
Probably I will cook a WM 6.1 rom... without touchflo, manila and other programs (if you say me that slow down the device).
I have seen devices 2 with WM 6.5 and customization programs, they are very fast, but they have 528 mhz processors, maybe I will overclocking my device...
You are very good about this things, I can already cook, but how can I cook in my language? No one can help me, here is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262838
IMO, using the HD2 and after trying wp7 and wm6.1->6.5.x, the fastest was 6.1 (without manilla/touchflo), 6.5 even without sense was a bit slow. wp7 is more fluid but definitely slower after installing many programs.
how to cook in your own language... can't help. sorry
Thank you anyway gilbert... (I also think 6.1 is the best )
I hope that other xda members will help me...(especially cooks not-english)
I understand english but italian is my mother language and I want to use it
Cool
Oh no!
I discovered that probably I can not even cook Windows Mobile ROMs for my device. (always the bootloader...)
Here is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342595