hi there im doing my rounds In LA soon and would love to buy a hero out there my main concern is, when i return to the UK will it work with one of my UK networks... any one have any insight into this.....
If it is unlocked , answer is tes.
My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
The answer is no!
The Sprint Hero is a CDMA device. It doesn't have a SIM card slot, because CDMA devices don't use SIM cards, so you can't give it another "identity" by inserting a different SIM like you can a GSM phone.
I believe that there are some phones that support both CDMA and GSM, and these can operate on both types of network because they have a radio that supports both and a SIM card slot.
Note that some CDMA networks have implemented what they call a UIM, which does the same job as a SIM card, but isn't compatible.
Regards.
Dave
Lord Lucan said:
My hero was on Orange UK ,and using with 3 network and will most certainly work with networks in US.
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In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
In the US, it will work on T-Mobile and AT&T (GSM networks) but not Sprint and Verizon (CDMA networks). Note that you will also not get 3G from the GSM networks, because the Euro Hero doesn't support the 3G bands needed by either AT&T and T-Mobile, so EDGE is the best you will see.
Regards,
Dave
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this doesent answer my question it does the opposite.....
im trying to find out.. if a US hero that i buy in the US will work on any uk network....??
My previous post answered your question! The second post was commenting on what Lord Lucan had said.
Regards,
Dave
so dave in the us cant i just buy a sim free non network hero... ?
The "worldwide" GSM Hero does not support any of the 3G bands employed by networks in the US. So, if you were to buy a GSM Hero, it would work on either T-Mobile US or AT&T, but the best you would get, data wise, is EDGE whilst you are in the US. When you come back to the UK, you would be able to get 3G.
The US Hero, otherwise known as the Sprint Hero, is a CDMA device. This will not work at all on any UK networks.
Regards,
Dave
cool thanks for reply's dave.. looks like im gonna get one. ok so does anyone know where i could pick one up while im there.. im staying in west hollywood.
Why do you want to physically buy one in the US?
You can buy one from Expansys in the US for $540, or in the UK for £370 (with £30 worth of vouchers).
Assuming you could find a local retailer which stocks them in West Hollywood with prices similar to Expansys, you'd have to pay sales tax on it @ 9.75% would bring the cost pretty close to £370.
Regards,
Dave
becasue i have loads of usd to burn and not loads of GBP are you glad you now know my business......anyway back to where a retailer might be
i dont thing it would have uk 3g
would it?
Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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Sorry probably none of my business but what use would the Sprint hero serve you in the UK since it is not possible to connect to any UK network or did I misunderstand. Wouldn't you be better off with the UK hero, at least that one could be rooted. Personally I would rather have that one, but the grass is always greener right.
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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no wrong your whole post is a wrong... i have a USD budget for every year.. so i dont care what price it is i just wanted to get one while im out there.. and as currently posted before like 3 times.. i don't want a sprint one.....so where might i be able to pick a non sprint hero up while in LA.. ?????????
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umm...there is no non-sprint hero in the US. The cdma hero aka the US hero aka the SPRINT hero is ONLY available on sprint and from sprint. This phone does not use a sim card or any thing like it, when you turn one on for the first time it automatically connects to the sprint network and is linked to the number of the sprint subscriber that purchases by the phones unique ESN number, which cannot be changed legally. If you want a chinless hero, the one that is available on sprint and does not look at all like the UK hero, it will only and can only connect to CDMA networks and as far as I know only sprint. So no my post was not A wrong, I admitted to being kinda lost I just asked what use would a phone that you can not use as a phone serve you, a also asked if I had misunderstood, which I am sure now that I did not, you seem to be the lost one. When you get your US hero and try to unlock it for a gsm network, where are you going to stick the SIM card, please send me a video of you trying to put it into the phone, that will be fun to watch.
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Looking at pictures of the Rezound, it looked as if it has sim card support, is there any known way to root/unlock the phone to use on T-mobile/AT&T?? if so i need one...
no the sim card is for LTE only. Sorry! It doesn't have GSM or HSPA support. Only CDMA EvDo 1xRTT and LTE
Ah bummer. Well ill definently have to consider virizon instead of tmobile when i get my own contract
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Excuse my ignorance, but just trying to sort this out. Realise it uses an LTE sim card, but as I live in China was hoping to put in a china telecom sim card and use it on their CDMA2000 network (which it does support).
This possible? Thanks in advance.
The sim card is solely for LTE if that helps. It may be possible to flash it to their network but I cannot answer a yes or no
It depends on the spectrum your LTE network uses. The phone should function CDMA only if you or your carrier know how to flash it correctly. Verizon uses a special LTE spectrum range they bought from the FCC known as C-Class if I remember correctly. It was sold after the US went from Analog to Digital TV. There were A-E Class Spectrum and C apparently was the best for whatever reason. I don't know to say anyone on here would know any more info than that in regards to the frequencies.
Thanks, I don't know how to flash it and I assume my carrier probably doesn't know how to or want to either. Shame. Really wanted this phone. It is being sold on taobao here (Chinese ebay equivalent) so maybe a solution will be found in the future.
There is a program called CDMA Workshop that most places in the US use to flash CDMA phones from major carriers to pre-paid carriers. I am sure someone over there could do the same. I lived in South Korea for 2 years, the stuff they could do was ridiculous, and I know China is the same. Actually, my neighbor is from China and is pretty tech Savvy too. I will text him later as he was just in China a couple weeks ago.
He said his girlfriend was able to bring her iPhone from China and have it flashed. Should work the other way around. As far as LTE though, beyond me.
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
4. I want to get it on the $30/m walmart/tmo prepaid plan (5G uncapped is plenty of data) but can't see how to order just the sim via their website. should I just have my friend go into walmart? prefer not to muck around with simplemobile if possible - ironically, i want to keep this whole enterprise as simple as possible with a big carrier/theoretically good support.
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
resolved said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
4. I want to get it on the $30/m walmart/tmo prepaid plan (5G uncapped is plenty of data) but can't see how to order just the sim via their website. should I just have my friend go into walmart? prefer not to muck around with simplemobile if possible - ironically, i want to keep this whole enterprise as simple as possible with a big carrier/theoretically good support.
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
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1. 479 sounds legit for phone, i dont know about x715m but i do know that us tmobile version is compatible with all bands networks.
2. Yes all US tmobile amaze 4g operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier. As far as apn you would need to set up your apn settings according to the network you are using.
3. If no AWS available then only 2g Edge will work, although I have called tmobile and asked if amaze 4g unlocked will be able to use att's hspa network and they said yes amaze and sg2 are only phones capable of that meaning they were built with future proof in mind. I also seen around that tmobile version has all 3g network bands but not sure myself.
4. Easiest would be to have friend pay and pick up the sim card at walmart but i do remind you it is 30/m- 100 min and 5gb of 4g speeds CAPPED, but 2g edge speeds after the 5gb. Simple mobile is 60/m - unltd talk unlt text and 2gb of 4g speeds capped then 2g edge speeds after just depends on your preference.
5. This is a good idea as att will stil be an option and now that att failed to buy tmobile, att has come to an agreement in a roaming contract with tmobile for 7 years.
hope this helps you a little bit more in what ever you decide, good luck!
thanks mate, helped confirmed a few things in my mind.
Negri said they're on backorder so I went ahead and ordered the phone from an Amazon seller for $500. I can only hope everything's legit - I'm not too sure what the dangers of this option are. My best idea is just to use the phone heavily in the first week after getting it and make sure everything works.
now i just need a "beginners guide to android" to help the friend work through the basics... google time.
Is this your first Android phone?
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nope, i've had a HTC Hero and currently run a SGS2. I bought the Amaze for a friend who's new to Android due to Apple's stupid GSM-only unlocked phones, and their lack of 1.7ghz for tmo.
we'll get through it, tho after 15 mins of googling, there's a distinct lack of good "idiot user's (not programmer's) guide to android" articles/books. will write something up myself, i think.
my response to you above is more fishing for people's ideas about how Amazon sellers can be dodgy, esp. when pretty much every website is still doing the Amaze for $6-700.. I wondered if there were any potential pitfalls with the $500 price.
resolved said:
nope, i've had a HTC Hero and currently run a SGS2. I bought the Amaze for a friend who's new to Android due to Apple's stupid GSM-only unlocked phones, and their lack of 1.7ghz for tmo.
we'll get through it, tho after 15 mins of googling, there's a distinct lack of good "idiot user's (not programmer's) guide to android" articles/books. will write something up myself, i think.
my response to you above is more fishing for people's ideas about how Amazon sellers can be dodgy, esp. when pretty much every website is still doing the Amaze for $6-700.. I wondered if there were any potential pitfalls with the $500 price.
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I bought mine from eBay. It was used for a week with everything and he gave me an Incipio case. I bought it for $445. I was happy with it.
resolved said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Aus and trying to get a non-savvy US (Cali, splitting time between Sac and SF) friend set up with an unlocked phone suitable for short-term US and overseas use due to travel requirements. The Amaze 4G looks great. I've tried to find answers, but would like some knowledgable eyeballs on my proposal:
1. A US website currently has the Amaze 4G for $479.50 which is much cheaper than all other options. Is this legit? Is there only the X715M model out there, or is this a predecessor?
2. Are all unlocked 'Tmo' Amaze 4G phones able to operate on GSM 850/900/1800/1900 as well as UMTS 1700/2100, both physically and as allowed by the carrier? Any weird APN/data connectivity restrictions due to unlocked phone?
3. Can this phone connect to Tmo at 3G speeds if AWS is unavailable? I read somewhere that 3G 1900 would be required, and this phone doesn't appear to have that?
5. Is this idea, for use in the US primarily but also overseas over the next 12 or so months, future-proof for a couple of years? e.g. I've read about tmo working on HSPA 1900MHz, but hopefully AT&T remains an option if Tmo ends up being unsatisfactory for any reason.
Thanks for having a read, hoping to tie this up ASAP. Much love for any responses.
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From what i understand, this phone has UMTS/HSPA+ support for 850,1700/2100aws/1900mhz and 2100mhz. Pretty much anywhere in the world that uses those.
So I have UK GSM EVO 3D, and whilst I know that all my previous phones have 'roamed' in the USA, obviously that would get VERY expensive very fast. Can you buy SIM cards in the states from AT&T etc so I can use my UK phone over there without a massive bill? (I realise I won't get 4G)
Scougar said:
So I have UK GSM EVO 3D, and whilst I know that all my previous phones have 'roamed' in the USA, obviously that would get VERY expensive very fast. Can you buy SIM cards in the states from AT&T etc so I can use my UK phone over there without a massive bill? (I realise I won't get 4G)
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Yup!
Assuming your device supports the same GSM freq as either TMO or ATT, you'd be able to buy no contract SIMs. Generally, TMO prices are cheaper than ATT, but you can visit their web sites to see their No Contract plans.
Hope that helps!
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Yup!
Assuming your device supports the same GSM freq as either TMO or ATT, you'd be able to buy no contract SIMs. Generally, TMO prices are cheaper than ATT, but you can visit their web sites to see their No Contract plans.
Hope that helps!
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Yup! Excellent, thank you very much
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Yup! Excellent, thank you very much
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Also, as an after thought, there are some cheaper third party retailers for no contract SIMs which operate on the same networks as TMO and ATT.
Simple mobile seems to be popular and very affordable. I think they're mostly on the TMO network.
H20 is also another option. I think H2O is mostly on ATT network.
Also, Straight Talk seems to be affordable and might provide SIMs for both ATT and TMO networks ...
Hope that helps add another altnerative to the two larger provides which might not price as competitively.
joeykrim said:
Also, as an after thought, there are some cheaper third party retailers for no contract SIMs which operate on the same networks as TMO and ATT.
Simple mobile seems to be popular and very affordable. I think they're mostly on the TMO network.
H20 is also another option. I think H2O is mostly on ATT network.
Also, Straight Talk seems to be affordable and might provide SIMs for both ATT and TMO networks ...
Hope that helps add another altnerative to the two larger provides which might not price as competitively.
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yes actually that's really great In the UK we have 3rd party operators as well, and the best by far is 'giff gaff' which is unlimited internet and calls/texts for about £10 a month. Insane
Blimey... those prices are nuts in the USA!
H2O wireless is great. Uses ATTs towers with tmobiles prices. Even cheaper in my opinion.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
Data seemed VERY expensive to use over there, or am I missing something? Allowance as standard is only about 80MB which is totally useless. Our smallest (generally speaking) over here is 500MB a month.
Struggling to understand the H20 packages.
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
Make sure you live in area with 1900mhz bands reframed or tmobile lte otherwise you will be stuck with edge speeds
worry said:
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Use this website should help
http://www.airportal.de/
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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LA has spotty 1900Mhz coverage on TMo. It's far, far better here with 1700Mhz. That's the exact reason why I bought the TMo version instead. If I need to unlock it, I'll either pay $20 on eBay for a code, or just pay for my device and get one from TMo instead. There isn't any branding on the phone at all, and you'd miss WiFi calling with the HTC store version.
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
olemetry said:
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
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Yes.
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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It was there all along and everyone who did the research knew it won't get T-Mobile aws band. Your best bet is buying direct from T-Mobile and unlocking.
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Becool0130 said:
Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
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T-Mobile's branded phones always say "4G" when on HSPA+. International phones usually idle with "3G" and then change to "H" or "H+" while data is active. Neither of these things is an indication of what frequency your data is being transferred over.
That airportal site linked above seems pretty good; there are other crowdsourced options for finding the PCS refarmed areas, too. A good way to be safe if you're dead set on the developer edition is to wait for LTE to roll out in your area since that will definitely work.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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You don't need an unlock code if you plan to use it on T-Mobile US (including prepaid MVNOs), only if you plan to use it on AT&T or internationally.
Dude call tmobile and you will be able to order via the phone
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Wal-mart has it for $148 with 2 years contract.
Hello all- I would like to purchase the Black in color HTC One M7. Unlocked / AT&T version doesnt matter I to me. The big question is will I lose ANYTHING over purchasing the actual Tmobile version? I Have to have reliable WIFI calling and I want to make sure that I have access to all Tmobile bands.
Is this possible for a Scooby Snack with some of the Rooted S Off roms? Or should I just suck it up and stay with the Silver T-Mobile Branded M7.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read and possibly help a Scooby out!
-Scoob
If memory serves me correct,
The ATT and Unlocked variant do not do the 1700mhz/2100mhz combo that TMO has the bulk of their network on. You would be limited to the re-farmed 1900mhz stuff they have up.
If your going to use it on TMO network best to get a TMO branded HTC One M7 then customize it as you want. Just my 2 cents..