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I think its possible to use the same carcharger from the HTCTyTN (Hermes) and HTCTyTNII for the HTC Touch HD. I read somewhere its possible. Somebody any experience with that!
luckyuser said:
I think its possible to use the same carcharger from the HTCTyTN (Hermes) and HTCTyTNII for the HTC Touch HD. I read somewhere its possible. Somebody any experience with that!
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Should, my car charger for my Tilt works fine with the Fuze. It's the same connector. I do believe all HTC products have the same connector.
beachboyde said:
Should, my car charger for my Tilt works fine with the Fuze. It's the same connector. I do believe all HTC products have the same connector.
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Actually, its just a simple mini usb connector. My Mitac Mio A701 has the same. I am using the same car charger for Mio A701 and HTC touch HD. I use a Kensington USB charger, for 6.99 euros its yours. Then use any normal usb to mini usb cable...
david-v said:
Actually, its just a simple mini usb connector.
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Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
What's true, though, is that all newer HTC devices use the same connector, so you are able to use the cable from any other HTC device you might have.
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
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You are wrong. With the Touch HD comes an ordinary Mini USB cable.
Charging is done by the pins for normal USB. The ExtUSB additional pins are for a headset only.
this is the one I use and it works no problem .....
http://www.uxcell.com/car-charger-for-motorola-razr-black-p-3590.html
it charged my TYTNII as well, it's one I had from a previous phone
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
What's true, though, is that all newer HTC devices use the same connector, so you are able to use the cable from any other HTC device you might have.
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The connector is compatible with mini usb. It looks different, but you can still use a normal mini usb connector, trust me, it works
I tried the same carcharger on my Touch that I used for my HTCTyTn, it works during navigation and it works good. But at the same time the battery needed a recharge to. The only thing that regonized was that the device was warmingup, but not extremly.
In the past, sometimes, but not always the TyTn get the same warmingup. But never had an real problem with that.
Is that a normal behavior
Car Charger
Could one of you please advice me, whether I can use the same car charger, (not the usb to mini 11 pin USB cable) which I had for my XDA II, for my Touch HD? I am concerned about the output from the charger for XDA II as I don't know whether it is a 5.0V one, as required for Touch HD. Thank you.
hevikar said:
Could one of you please advice me, whether I can use the same car charger, (not the usb to mini 11 pin USB cable) which I had for my XDA II, for my Touch HD? I am concerned about the output from the charger for XDA II as I don't know whether it is a 5.0V one, as required for Touch HD. Thank you.
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As we said before that Touch HD has a USB connector, and USB is ALWAYS 5.0V!
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As we said before that Touch HD has a USB connector, and USB is ALWAYS 5.0V!
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Will that mean that I can use the XDA II's car charger for this,as that has an usb slot, to which I can plug my HD's USB sync cable? Sorry, if I sound stupid. I am a newbie. Thank you very much for your help.
Hi all,
I ordered an original HTC car charger. Because it had an mini usb which looks differently, I called HTC.
They assured me that this charger was ment for the HTC touch HD and could be used without a problem.
The car charger comes with an mini usb plug.
car charger CC C100 HTC
hevikar said:
Will that mean that I can use the XDA II's car charger for this,as that has an usb slot, to which I can plug my HD's USB sync cable? Sorry, if I sound stupid. I am a newbie. Thank you very much for your help.
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yes, it means you can...and you can use any (mini) usb cable you want too...easy, isn't it? I use a retractable USB cable.
david-v said:
yes, it means you can...and you can use any (mini) usb cable you want too...easy, isn't it? I use a retractable USB cable.
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Thank you very much.
cgdams said:
Unfortunately, it's NOT a standard mini usb connector. HTC has a different connector that very much looks like but isn't mini usb. You can't use a mini usb cable with HTC devices.
Here's a picture of HTC connector: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config , as opposed to the mini usb connector (http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm)
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I'm not sure how you guys use even "official" car charger for HTC HD
Look at those pictures ... this link
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
shows you HTC Touch HD socket ... it is straight on one end and bevelled on other end. It is extUSB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
But standard USB socket (even on official car charger listed on expansys site) is bevelled on BOTH ends
http://www.expansys-usa.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=174221
How you guys charge your HD with "standard" USB ? Do you just force standard USB plug into extUSB socket on HD ?
bogdatov said:
I'm not sure how you guys use even "official" car charger for HTC HD
Look at those pictures ... this link
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
shows you HTC Touch HD socket ... it is straight on one end and bevelled on other end. It is extUSB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31649&d=1164664052
But standard USB socket (even on official car charger listed on expansys site) is bevelled on BOTH ends
http://www.expansys-usa.com/zoompic.aspx?type=item&i=174221
How you guys charge your HD with "standard" USB ? Do you just force standard USB plug into extUSB socket on HD ?
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The HD plug is compatible with mini USB. Yes, on the HD it is flat on one side. Don't worry. You can use a regular mini USB charger. There is no forcing there, just look at the pictures...the connection showed there can take "more" than just mini USB, not less. A normal mini USB is bevelled at both sides. on HD it is bevelled on only one side, meaning you can fit there a "bigger" plug (read extmini USB), not a "smaller" plug
Oh, maybe I forgot to mention. I have a HD, and for the last time, you can use all your mini usb connectors on the HD (I use 4 different ones, at work, in car, at home for charging and at home for sync). They all fit, it is compatible...no forcing!!! End of thread....please....?
I made a video for those who do not believe that a miniUSB can plug into extUSB socket -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n05lUtReubU
I use a genuine htc charger which charges quicker than a generic one from the lighter socket. I believe this is because generic charger is at the standard usb 500mah where as the genuine charges at 1000mah and therefore a quicker charge. Note your power supply (the one which plugs into the wall) supplies 1000mah.
By the way, I've used various cables with my phone and although the connectors always fit no problem, that doesn't mean they actually have worked!
For example, I've tried a power supply for an older Orange SPV and was surprised when it refused to charge my TyTnII!?
I've also had other issues with usb connection to my PC where it will charge from the usb port but will not connect to Windows until I change the cable. The cable that didn't work, works perfectly well with other mini usb devices. This was actually from a Belkin 16-in-1 card reader thing... never had much faith in belkin!!
esackbauer said:
You are wrong. With the Touch HD comes an ordinary Mini USB cable.
Charging is done by the pins for normal USB. The ExtUSB additional pins are for a headset only.
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can you take a picture of your mini USB (assuming you have HD)?
My HTC HD has the special connetor. the regular mini USB does not fit into the HD jack.
The only option I see is to get a generic lighter plug with standard usb jack and connect the proprietary cable and stick it in the plug.
But you still beed another cable (one at home and one in your car)
I had the KJAM and it has a standard mini usb - It does not fit in the HD.
kubeb said:
can you take a picture of your mini USB (assuming you have HD)?
My HTC HD has the special connetor. the regular mini USB does not fit into the HD jack.
The only option I see is to get a generic lighter plug with standard usb jack and connect the proprietary cable and stick it in the plug.
But you still beed another cable (one at home and one in your car)
I had the KJAM and it has a standard mini usb - It does not fit in the HD.
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I think it would be better if you show us a picture of your mini usb plug, the one that does not fit. That makes more sense than us showing a "regular" mini-usb plug that fits in the htc extusb, which is backwards compatible with mini-usb.
btw, did you watch the video from salcho? that says more than pictures I guess. Please, make a picture of your mini-usb cable and show it to us here.
David
I have one question, does miniusb cable will fit with this device or need special cable ?
the blueangel has a special port, there are adapters for notebook chargers, which covers a AC-supply generalisation, but there is no standard usb cable to use. i recently got a universal and i have to say i love the mini-usb port, since you can use all new htc accessories and everything you got lying around, i actually sync my device with a cable that came with a card reader, all that, unfortunately, is not possible with the ba
I realised this yesterday after 23:58 Very bad - i don't know where to find original cable or some connector pinout. Even my siemens unlocking cable don't work.
Nothing, phone will stay with german rom, wm2003. Even flashing via sd card not possible
Blue Angel usb cables can easily be found online if you look for them I purchased a couple for 10 dollars or less.
They tended to come with a USB docking station, this is what you'd use to sync it to a computer.
I am selling one, but postage could be an issue...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497241
Friend: The standard mini usb cable (most popular) can be used in extUSB on D2 (Topaz) : Charging is OK and Sync is OK.
Note: I discover It after buy a 2nd cable
Well, I have so many 'standard' USB to mini USB cables I have never even taken the HTC item out of it's box.
However, the pin out on the mini port of the TD2 does allow for other things other than just sync and charge and then a specificaly wired cable would be required.
Common Mini usb works for other stuff too.
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source. Recently (after 3 weeks of use) my data cable began to come apart...
fearing i would have to buy something i couldnt afford and being mad that i have like 50 mini usb cords that i thought were useless, i found this thread and decided to test other features of the standard cable. So far I have found nothing that the cord cannot do.
my 2 cents.
geraldf80 said:
Where i live i have no high speed internet so i use my HTC pure as my internet source.
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Question: are you then using the HTC as a modem? If so, have you ever tried using it as a modem via Bluetooth? I have never managed this and nobody in the General forum has any advice. I can only use it via usb.
No I havent sorry. My laptop don't have bluetooth so the option never presented itself. perhaps searching for bluetooth internet sharing or making a post would be more helpful.. sorry.
On the TD2 you first need to pair your phone to your PC with Bluetooth
And then there's a program called 'Internet Sharing' on my TD2 menu, you just need to pair your phone and change what the internet sharing is going to (BT in this case) and away you go.
I've heard some carriers disable this and make you pay a surcharge for tethering, which I've heard you can get round with a registry hack
(i can't post links but I did google Touch Diamond 2 Bluetooth Internet Sharing)
Another quick and easy way to do it wirelessly is to use a program like WalkingHotSpot, which converts your TD2 into a WiFi hotspot which is my preferred method if i had to go down this path
Good luck!
The additional contacts in the original connector are for the headphones. Not used in USB & Charging.
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
GeScha said:
e.g. the original car charger comes with a default USB/minUSB cable, not th especial connector as added to the TD2.
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That is true. I have been searching for a TD2 car charger with its specially profiled connector but could not find one. I am afraid that the standard mini USB connector will damaged the TD2 connector after prolonged use just like what had happened to my 838Pro. You need a little help with the wires and connector when charging or ActiveSync to get them connected.
Whoa this thread is a life saver. I'm in the middle of nowhere and lost my cable so couldn't charge my phone was looking for somewhere to order online it would have cost me at least 2 weeks.
Now i'm using my camera's standard usb cable.
Thank You.
I have all the normal!
Wow, I was kind of shocked, when I tried it - it worked!!! I have bought already 2 special htc oem cables - 1st one was already broken, and have never tried the original mini usb cable since now. It works perfectly too But I suppose if the mini usb cable is used, you have to be more careful for the connector, because there is some free space inside.
i'm using oem hp camera's cable. working fine on my diamond2
Thanks friends.
Is the USB cable for the TP2 custom? It does not seem to match any of the other mini usb cables I have and none of the others will fit in my TP2. The cable is starting to come loose at the head (seeing silver fibers coming out). I may need another one soon, any idea where to get them for a decent price?
I use the mini-USB cable from either of my digital cameras or from my old Palm Tungsten E PDA. Works fine.
Yeah, the standard shaped mini usb's will fit. Even though they look different and dont have that strange angle like the stock one that comes with the phone.
I use this one from an 8125 at home and the stock one at work. Both work fine.
Some work, some don't
For some reason about 1/2 of my mini cables do NOT work with the TP2, but I have a couple that do. I'm not sure what the difference is. The TP2 is supposed to work with a standard mini usb cable.
you can find the OEM chargers (the wall plug with the USB cable) on ebay for about 7 dollars
i prefer to use the HTC-shaped plugs since i had some issues with regular mini-B cables being loose and damaging the data port on my Mogul
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For some reason about 1/2 of my mini cables do NOT work with the TP2, but I have a couple that do. I'm not sure what the difference is. The TP2 is supposed to work with a standard mini usb cable.
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difference is in little misshape of the mini usb side of the cable, because connectors on phones get easily corroded. little different on pressure on the cable side or micro small difference in shape could make it work or not.
usb-hub used and patented by htc have on female side a small plate with 5pins on one side and 6 on the other, if you plug htc-hub connector you can use all of them, if you plug STANDARD mini usb, it will only connect with 5pin side.
this have the same charecteristic as standard mini usb, it's 2 pins for 5v power, and 2pins for data-, data+. the last 5th one is not used. every usb mini to usb normal cable have to be compliant with standards, which means, there can't be any differences. the other side of usb-hub is for audio video only and doesn't have nothing to do with data connection.
usb cable doesn't need very special shielding, or twisting. no need to waste money on gold inside. any standard usb cable would do. e.g. $1 from ebay. just get two, three different ones and see which works best with your pda.
cool, I just found one on ebay for $2.50. There was plenty there. I tried some of my other muni usb and they didn't work for me.
Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
krelvinaz said:
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
Prefader said:
That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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