Is the USB cable for the TP2 custom? It does not seem to match any of the other mini usb cables I have and none of the others will fit in my TP2. The cable is starting to come loose at the head (seeing silver fibers coming out). I may need another one soon, any idea where to get them for a decent price?
I use the mini-USB cable from either of my digital cameras or from my old Palm Tungsten E PDA. Works fine.
Yeah, the standard shaped mini usb's will fit. Even though they look different and dont have that strange angle like the stock one that comes with the phone.
I use this one from an 8125 at home and the stock one at work. Both work fine.
Some work, some don't
For some reason about 1/2 of my mini cables do NOT work with the TP2, but I have a couple that do. I'm not sure what the difference is. The TP2 is supposed to work with a standard mini usb cable.
you can find the OEM chargers (the wall plug with the USB cable) on ebay for about 7 dollars
i prefer to use the HTC-shaped plugs since i had some issues with regular mini-B cables being loose and damaging the data port on my Mogul
stevedebi said:
For some reason about 1/2 of my mini cables do NOT work with the TP2, but I have a couple that do. I'm not sure what the difference is. The TP2 is supposed to work with a standard mini usb cable.
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difference is in little misshape of the mini usb side of the cable, because connectors on phones get easily corroded. little different on pressure on the cable side or micro small difference in shape could make it work or not.
usb-hub used and patented by htc have on female side a small plate with 5pins on one side and 6 on the other, if you plug htc-hub connector you can use all of them, if you plug STANDARD mini usb, it will only connect with 5pin side.
this have the same charecteristic as standard mini usb, it's 2 pins for 5v power, and 2pins for data-, data+. the last 5th one is not used. every usb mini to usb normal cable have to be compliant with standards, which means, there can't be any differences. the other side of usb-hub is for audio video only and doesn't have nothing to do with data connection.
usb cable doesn't need very special shielding, or twisting. no need to waste money on gold inside. any standard usb cable would do. e.g. $1 from ebay. just get two, three different ones and see which works best with your pda.
cool, I just found one on ebay for $2.50. There was plenty there. I tried some of my other muni usb and they didn't work for me.
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Just to share my expirience, I know there are several threads here saying that the mini usb cable is fine.
When trying to find an extra sync cable, T-Mo said that the "blackberry" cables work. They gave me one, which was a re-branded standard usb (with mini) cable. I said I had lots of those.
After less than two weeks using the cable, the 4 pins on the bottom side of the phones connection (the ones that have no match to a mini usb) are no pushed up and bent flush. Now no cable will stay plugged in. Sitting on a table, the weight of the cable itself is enough to make it fall out.
Since I just got the phone, they replaced it for me. My wife got her phone the same day and doesn't use the mini usb cable.
Anyone else have this happen?
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Looking at my new phone and the bottom 4 pins already looked flush. My old phone and my wifes phone they are clearly NOT flush. So I'm not sure what's right or how it's suppose to be.
Plus a co-worker has an HTC cable for some older HTC phone (not sure which) and it's a standard usb mini with htc sticker.
I've been plugging various standard mini-usb cables into my Kaisers for years. Never had trouble.
So I've had my Hero less than a month and the usb lead has deteriorated near the phone's connection end a fair bit.
My question is: Would a normal mini USB lead work in the charger? Also if I bought a standard mini usb as a replacement, does it have any dis-advantages to the official HTC cable / connection?
I've seen a few official HTC Hero connection cables on ebay but a standard mini usb would be a lot cheaper and if it doesn't have any dis-advantages, I might as well just get one of those.
Any help would be great!
i use any mini usb that comes to hand and i still get the same charging as the official usb
so, in short, no it doesnt make a difference
The socket on the Hero has extra pins for audio/video than a normal Mini USB. On the Hero this can be used for connecting a headset or a (second) pair of headphones.
Charging and data transfer do not need the extra pins and can use a normal Mini USB connector.
I don't know why the cable included by HTC has the extended plug with the extra pins, because they don't seem to be used (the other end is a regular USB plug, no headset/headphones). It just means you can't use that cable on any non-HTC device. I just use normal Mini USB cables for it anyhow.
Thanks for the help guys! Very much appreciate it.
Ha. I had no idea you could charge it with standard USB cables until I saw this thread, what great news! I hadn't tried plugging one in until now, just assumed the different shape socket would mean it couldn't work. Excellent.
The Rezound has a very interesting Micro-USB port that seems to have the outer shape similar to Mini-USB, but with the Micro-USB guts. The cable that comes with the phone has a rectangular plug that seems a bit longer and fits perfectly into the phone's jack. In fact, its amazing... to get the phone connected to it, you have to push the connector in until it 'clicks' into place - very solid.
My wife's DINC suffers from a slutted-out socket that now barely works anymore due to the standard Micro-USB design that seems pretty fragile. Even though a standard Micro-USB fits into the Rezound's unique socket, it doesn't have the solid feel that the OEM version has.
Does anyone know what this newer style connector is called? I would like to find a couple more cables that are longer and feel that by using this type of connector, the Rezound's port should last the life of the phone.
Thanks in advance!!!
-M
It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
Thanks dude...
A normal microUSB cable will still get the job done. It's just put in the reverse as it is on the Incredible. The tabs need to be facing up. I got 3 OEM HTC microUSB cables off ebay for like $7 bucks shipped. And the odd shaped end is probably some proprietary HTC connector, same as they had with the HeroCDMA with the miniUSB.
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It's an MHL plug and there is more info in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356346
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No, it's a micro-A USB receptacle that supports MHL. There's a difference.
I would rather have the MHL cable... Feels more secure when plugged in..
Has anyone been able to find one on the internet or in store?
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yeah the security of the MHL cable is worth not using a standard micro USB. for instance when you're using a car charger w/ a standard micro USB, the cable can tug a bit on the connector(depending on length of cable, placement of phone) and cause it to come loose & stop charging... but with the micro A USB(MHL) it's nice & secure and you don't have to worry about that happening.
Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
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The really annoying thing about the cable that comes with the phone is that you can't use it with any other micro-A/B USB ports. They seem to have intentionally shipped a cable that you can only use with this device, even though the device itself will take any micro USB plug. Thanks, HTC!
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The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
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The incredible will charge with the shipped Rezound charger, granted it's got the same port. I've been using my Thunderbolt charger, kindle charger and now BB charger while at work. All get the job done.
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I did say that any other micro USB cable would work on the phone. I have a charger from every blackberry I ever owned, the Inc charger, and a couple miscellaneous cables lying around. It's just that the one that comes with the Rezound now has to go in its own special pile of cables (all by itself) because I can't use it with any other devices. Did not try with the old phone, though. Interesting that you say HTC's physical mods to the micro USB port are the same on the Inc and Rezound, yet the Rezound ships with a proprietary cable and my Inc came with a standard micro USB plug. I'll check when I get home.
it does seem at least that yes, any microUSB cable will work with the Rezound for both charging it and connecting it to your PC.
for the most part, you really only need the MHL support if you plan on going through HDMI out, which you'd then need an MHL/HDMI adapter cable anyway.
the only benefit to the cable that comes with the Rezound is the "snug fit" bit. whereas, it'd be nice if they had a car charger with the exact same micro A USB end to it as i find that all standard micro USB car chargers aren't as snug and depending on phone placement/movement, the connection can get a bit 'loose' and sometime stop charging.
i used to use this motorola car charger but because of how the cable pulled, the connection would constantly come loose unless i used tape to hold it in place.
It's not an MHL port. It's HTC's proprietary ExtMicro-USB port first seen with the HTC Flyer. An MHL port is a standard 5pin Micro-USB A/B port that detects when an MHL adapter is used, and uses those same 5 pins to support HDMI output. If you look at MHL ports on phones like the Evo 4G and Galaxy S II, they are indistinguishable physically from standard Micro-USB B ports. HTC's ExtMicro-USB is compatible with 5pin Micro-USB cables and 5pin MHL adapters. In fact, if you look at the HTC MHL adapter, it's shaped like a standard Micro-USB plug and only has 5 pins. What's different about ExtMicro-USB is that it has some extra pins compared to standard Micro-USB and MHL. I believe it has 6 extra pins, for a total of 11 pins. Those 6 extra pins are not used for MHL, for the reasons stated above. I'm not certain what those pins are used for, but if it's the same as the older ExtUSB (which is compatible with Mini-USB), then those extra pins are used for analog audio output, for use with stereo headsets, etc.
Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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Why would they send you a cable for anything other then the phone #dumb.
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The cable IS for the phone. You can use it to charge and sync. But the PORT can also be used to hookup an MHL adapter for HDMI output. That is IN ADDITION to charging or syncing via USB. The cable that comes with the phone just has a different connector yet is backwards compatable with any regular micro-USB cable.
I'm not sure why this is so confusing to people.
That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
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That being said...
Has anyone found a part number or where to buy cables with the non-standard connector?
I have plenty of micro-usb cables, and yes, they do work fine, but I am not confortable with how loose they are. WAY too much play. This especially worries me in the car.
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Yea I have been trying to find this too. I was sent the Rezound as a CLNR for my Charge so I didn't even get the original USB cable that comes with the phone when you buy it. Sure the micro-usb cables work, but they feel pretty loose compared to other phones that are designed for micro-usb specifically.
ok guys this is NOT an MHL cable. as said before there is nothing special at all about it besides that it is a snugger fit. any micro usb will work with MHL and you still need the converter.
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Anybody have a part number for the OEM cable or best case know where to order it
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It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
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It took some digging but here it is http://www.wirelessground.com/htcm400.html
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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thanks. I will have to check this one it out but HTC is kind of jerking our chain with the part number. Turns out they used to same part number on all their later model cables. I ordered 3 different HTC OEM cables and they do work for charging and data but none of them had the snug snap-in feel as the one that came with the phone.
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I know what you mean. I put the part number in and the one that came with the Inc kept coming up. This one looks like it has the same shape as the one that comes with the Rezound.
it seems that some people on the forum say they have a standard micro USB connector on the Flyer??? and most of the ebay sellers list standard micro usb products for the HTC Flyer
MY connection is a proprietary one - it looks like a micro usb but has a 'step' in it
like this one...zoom in on the picture
http://www.expansys.com.au/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
wtf is going on?
Try it, you will like it, except for charging.............
try what? what will i like? what about the charging?
off the shelf micro usb works fine.
The proprietary style is only for charging
If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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It's a generic micro USB connection. The extra's is just that, extra. And not mandatory. I read somewhere (could be here, could be somewhere else) that they made the different connector so you wouldn't use the charger on a device that can't handle the power. But you can use any micro USB cable to connect the device to your PC. And you can even use any micro USB charger, but you'll need a lot of patience as it'll take a long, long time!
While you can use a standard micro USB cable, I have heard it would be better to use the HTC one because it will stay in better. I have used a standard one just fine, but the HTC one does hold in better IMO.
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If u have a micro usb cable then u have to put it in the opposite way. Like this
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Its both proprietary AND standard. As vj092887 said, you insert the micro-USB male plug "upside-down" from how you would on most HTC devices. And it plugs into the "bottom half" of the jack. All this is in respect to the tablet laying flat, with the screen facing up.
If you use the included charger or sync cable, it takes up the "whole" jack. Sync doesn't really make a difference. But the included charger is much faster than standard HTC Micro-USB chargers.
jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
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jeebus on a swizzle stick, only after reading this did i actually shove a standard micro usb into it and i'll be damned.....
thanks guys
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Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
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Shortly after I got my Flyer, I was at work and wanted to connect it to my laptop. And realized I had left my (HTC) cable at home, sticking in my PC there. I was also kind of disappointed as I had bought the flyer specifically because you could use a micro USB cable!
So, I thought, well, why not try it and see if it fits. And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ), I got lucky this time and found it fitted
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USB cables tend to go in the right way on the third try!
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And as I generally always first try to stick a cable in upside down (don't ask me why, even if I think about it, I'll try it upside down first ),
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i NEVER put in cables upside down (because i always put a little dot on the top side of the connector using nail polish...you can use liquid paper for a more 'manly' experience)
Is there a source for an innexpensive extra cable? I've been using a standard micro USB and it works but feels very loose compared to the official HTC cable that came with my flyer.
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If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
DigitalMD said:
If you mean with a HTC style power connector, no, that's for charging only. For data cables Ebay or Amazon has them for about $1 each.
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I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
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Does this mean that the MHL adapter with 5 pins will work (standard Micro USB), and I don't need the 12 pin MHL version (extMicro USB)?
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yes! but apparently it charges really slowly so microUSB is best left to data transfer only
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I wouldnt buy those generic cables from ebay/amazon etc they are poorly made and can either break off in your device, break off the connector on the device, or short out.. I highly recommend getting either Motorola or HTC OEM cables. They cost $2 - $5 but its worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-SKN5...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1323629211&sr=1-1
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. Although a standard micro USB connector works for me when transferring data I don't like how loose it seems in the Flyer's socket. So I want another cable just like the one that came with my Flyer, a micro ExtUSB cable. I've only found mini ExtUSB cables not micro ones, hence my request for an inexpensive cable source.
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there are no inexpensive extUSB cables...i don't know where you are but try expansys or amazon in your country...they're all upwards of $20
There is no 3rd party source for the non-standard HTC proprietary connector.
HTC manufactured Windows Mobile and Android-based devices have a proprietary connector called HTC Micro ExtUSB (Extended USB). ExtUSB combines Micro-USB (with which it is backwards-compatible) with audio input as well as audio and video output in an 11-pin connector. The extra pins also allow for higher charging currents.
If you really want to spend on a high quality cable, here you go, the best, most expensive per foot USB micro cable in the world . For ~$25 this should keep your Flyer and small pets from bursting into flame............
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4256657&CatId=77
By the way, all the generic or other brand MHL adapters work fine with the HTC for connection to HDMI.
I have a MHL Adapter and I get video just fine. Now I want to be able to sit on my couch while i use the adapter. Seems to me the simplest way would be to use a 15-20 foot Micro USB Male - Micro USB Female extension cable.
Does anyone have any experience with such a setup? Do you have a recommendation for such a cable?
TIA!!
Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
I guess the thought was that if I have the Micro USB Extension, then it's one thin lightweight wire that has to travel across the floor.
If I did HDMI, I'd still have to be near power whereas with Micro USB, I could set the power adapter, and HDMI, and MHL Adapter all together and then have a thin and lightweight wire traveling across the floor.
But if it's not possible, (micro USB limitiation??) then HDMI it would have to be.
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Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
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If the micro USB works it would be much cheaper than a comparable length hdmi cord.
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I would test http://www.amazon.com/Extender-over-CAT5E-CAT6-connection/dp/B003L14ZTC this. It's hard to get cheaper than cat5e.
Just bought 10 feet on amazon! Lovely!
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I wanted to do exactly this - extend the cable but at the micro-USB end to avoid having the Micro-usb power supply line and the bulky MHL adaptor all where the phone is - much cleaner to just have a thin cable coming out of the phone and headed towards the TV.
I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
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I, too have been trying to figure out why an extension cable doesn't work the way you think it might. Today, I tried cutting my 6 foot cable, first making sure I had the right power leads working. Then I went through all the possible combinations of connections to see if one would work. None do. I'm at a complete loss on this wondering what I should try next.
Thanks for info....similarly baffled but at least you have ruled out something!
Like the other guy said, get your x for of hdmi cable, then just plug your AC charger in where you are. Mhl might use additional connectors/pins/whatever vs micro USB. Or you can go totally wireless and use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
Also I remember I had a charging issue with an extension. Sometimes one product works better than others. I can't charge my phone with my 20 dollar AC charger from best buy since the ICS leak. It's weird. Hdmi cables are pretty uniform, I would just extend that.
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Yes, that works, always has, but that's not the point. Would rather have just one long cable connected to the phone in front of the TV rather than three cables, the device and the phone in a kludge setup.
A partial answer
This allows connecting 6 feet away with a thin, flexible single cable..Also cheap, but shipping takes 15 days.
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Gavdroid said:
I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
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I took apart the two cables and the USB has four wires while the MHL cable has ten.
are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
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The Micro B USB connector only has 5 connections, so there is no way you can connect 10 from the MHL cable to it, so something else is going on.
pinoutsguide.com/PortableDevices/micro_usb_pinout.shtml
amblix said:
are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
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I bought splices and thought about extending the cable. It's possible.
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I did wanted to do the same but the extension cable didn't work. I looked at the connecting points and felt that the micro usb from Mel adaptor is to bit longer than usual so I thought that may be the reason and I shorten it resulting damaging my Mel adaptor itself. Now I am going for allshare cast wireless hub. So everyone please don't try to cut the micro usb pin from your adaptor or u will better decide to for my option to for complete flexibility.
I want to do this EXACT same thing but slightly more extreme:
I want an MHL adapter with 10-25 feet of micro USB cable on the end so I can use it from anywhere in my living room.
Is there any such cable/adapter?
Why do all MHL adapters come with only a 5 inch cable??? It is maddening!
*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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Get a different MHL adapter. I use an adapter close to the one 7 posts up by hedaleth with my kenwood system in my truck.