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I have a T-Mobile G2 and although I've read earlier today that they are 'working' on getting the update ready. I'd rather just have the normal version of Sense that everyone else has
I've tried reading through lots of topics here but I'm a bit confused what I need to do. Do I need to root my phone ? Unlock it ?
As you can probably tell I'm new to Android so I don't really know much about it
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks
Yes, T-Mobile had to be dragged kinking and screaming into making an announcement. Now that they have I shall wait.
It seems the only benefit of getting the T-Mobile Upgrade is that you get to keep your warranty apart from that it's just the same but with a few T-Mobile logo's chucked in...
..and not having to go through the risks of 'hacking' your phone aswell
james_white said:
I have a T-Mobile G2 and although I've read earlier today that they are 'working' on getting the update ready. I'd rather just have the normal version of Sense that everyone else has
I've tried reading through lots of topics here but I'm a bit confused what I need to do. Do I need to root my phone ? Unlock it ?
As you can probably tell I'm new to Android so I don't really know much about it
Any help would be appreciated, Thanks
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well even if you get it unlocked from what iam reading it make not a S**** of difference you still cannot use updates from HTC. I have rooted my tmob with custom rom seems to work ok alot faster then tmobs stock rom but i am sure there official update will be here very very soon
And pigs might grow wings and start aerial assaults...
I have no faith in T-Mobile's ability to provide a timely ROM upgrade, maybe by Xmas. I would love them to prove me wrong of course.
Go to Modaco and follow the instructions carefully to install their custom rom, if any steps in the procedure give you cause to be concerned, DONT do it.
And always make backups of your data.
And make sure you backup your data.
Yes, I know I repeated myself, but trust me, its a major point if you are going to mess around with roms.
Hi there, I'm a Dream and Desire owner who has rooted both handsets and I'm reasonably confident I can follow instructions
A colleague at work has just ordered the Hero on Orange (UK), and she's gone online and started reading up on it - first mistake! She's come across a few complaints concerning the Orange ROM and she's asked me "the phone guy" how easy it is to load the HTC ROM onto her phone.
I was caught on the hop, having never even seen a Hero in real life, nor followed the XDA forums for this particular handset. I have a few questions for you guys, if you don't mind - will likely save me hours of reading
1. What version of Android are Orange dishing out on their Heros atm? Donut or Eclair?
2. Depending on the answer to above, please point me in the direction of a rooting guide for the thing.
3. If I can root, what's the best developer ROM around for SPEED and STABILITY? This is a one time thing, I don't want her running back to me every other week, with problems that I can't solve there and then without flashing the thing all the time.
4. If root can't be achieved, can I use a goldcard method to load up the HTC ROM instead? Show me where/how please.
5. What are the known problems with the Orange ROMs - is it even worth me going to the trouble? Will loading up the HTC ROM make a noticeable difference for her?
Finally, she hasn't even got the thing yet, and since I've never had it I can't imagine what probs she may run into. It would be nice to educate her and get on these forums reading and doing stuff herself, but I don't think that will happen tbh. With that in mind I'm looking for suggestions to optimise the thing for permanent daily use. I don't want bleeding edge, just as much performance as I can squeeze out of it without compromising reliability.
Many thanks for your replies - don't be afraid to get technical with me!
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Hi there, I'm a Dream and Desire owner who has rooted both handsets and I'm reasonably confident I can follow instructions
A colleague at work has just ordered the Hero on Orange (UK), and she's gone online and started reading up on it - first mistake! She's come across a few complaints concerning the Orange ROM and she's asked me "the phone guy" how easy it is to load the HTC ROM onto her phone.
I was caught on the hop, having never even seen a Hero in real life, nor followed the XDA forums for this particular handset. I have a few questions for you guys, if you don't mind - will likely save me hours of reading
1. What version of Android are Orange dishing out on their Heros atm? Donut or Eclair?
2. Depending on the answer to above, please point me in the direction of a rooting guide for the thing.
3. If I can root, what's the best developer ROM around for SPEED and STABILITY? This is a one time thing, I don't want her running back to me every other week, with problems that I can't solve there and then without flashing the thing all the time.
4. If root can't be achieved, can I use a goldcard method to load up the HTC ROM instead? Show me where/how please.
5. What are the known problems with the Orange ROMs - is it even worth me going to the trouble? Will loading up the HTC ROM make a noticeable difference for her?
Finally, she hasn't even got the thing yet, and since I've never had it I can't imagine what probs she may run into. It would be nice to educate her and get on these forums reading and doing stuff herself, but I don't think that will happen tbh. With that in mind I'm looking for suggestions to optimise the thing for permanent daily use. I don't want bleeding edge, just as much performance as I can squeeze out of it without compromising reliability.
Many thanks for your replies - don't be afraid to get technical with me!
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1) Should be 1.5 (can't remember codename) as I don't think they have finished customising their own 2.1 ROM.
I doubt many carriers will do 2.1 on shipped phones, as hero is at end of life tbh and likely won't be made in large enough quantities to justify using new ROM.
2) http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=375
3) VillainROM 12 or any other final GSM WWE should be fine. Just test if a little and it should be fine. Watch out for OC settings if you want it to be noob-proof. Go for safe settings.
4) That guide explains all methods
5) No idea. IMHO carrier ROMs are all crap, just like stock ones. No root is the big one for me.
Just install a decent ROM for this last point. Anything recent that's been up for a while without many updates should be fine
Thanks anon2122, that helps me out a lot
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Hi there, I'm a Dream and Desire owner who has rooted both handsets and I'm reasonably confident I can follow instructions
A colleague at work has just ordered the Hero on Orange (UK), and she's gone online and started reading up on it - first mistake! She's come across a few complaints concerning the Orange ROM and she's asked me "the phone guy" how easy it is to load the HTC ROM onto her phone.
I was caught on the hop, having never even seen a Hero in real life, nor followed the XDA forums for this particular handset. I have a few questions for you guys, if you don't mind - will likely save me hours of reading
1. What version of Android are Orange dishing out on their Heros atm? Donut or Eclair?
2. Depending on the answer to above, please point me in the direction of a rooting guide for the thing.
3. If I can root, what's the best developer ROM around for SPEED and STABILITY? This is a one time thing, I don't want her running back to me every other week, with problems that I can't solve there and then without flashing the thing all the time.
4. If root can't be achieved, can I use a goldcard method to load up the HTC ROM instead? Show me where/how please.
5. What are the known problems with the Orange ROMs - is it even worth me going to the trouble? Will loading up the HTC ROM make a noticeable difference for her?
Finally, she hasn't even got the thing yet, and since I've never had it I can't imagine what probs she may run into. It would be nice to educate her and get on these forums reading and doing stuff herself, but I don't think that will happen tbh. With that in mind I'm looking for suggestions to optimise the thing for permanent daily use. I don't want bleeding edge, just as much performance as I can squeeze out of it without compromising reliability.
Many thanks for your replies - don't be afraid to get technical with me!
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1. 1.5 ROM version 2.73.61.5
More info here :
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=2&dl_id=675
2. rooting guide use the unlockr :
More info :
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/27/how-to-root-your-htc-hero-in-one-click/
3. I my self use Sensehero ( only as i am to use to Sense Ui ) Nothing against VillainROM its a nice fast rom,
4. No need for goldcard if you follow the unlockr how to,
5. There is not many issues with the orange rom, i only changed for apps to sd (a2sd) and wanted root access,
But thats just my self.
Regards
Steven
there are some htc hero orange users who are having problem in debranding it due to some radio issues.
As im new to this forum im not aloowed to post linkes i guess
but here it is androidforums.com/htc-hero/112255-guide-beat-wait-2-1-branded-phones-uk.html
agarp said:
there are some htc hero orange users who are having problem in debranding it due to some radio issues.
As im new to this forum im not aloowed to post linkes i guess
but here it is androidforums.com/htc-hero/112255-guide-beat-wait-2-1-branded-phones-uk.html
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True, but there's a working radio on the VillainROM site for orange users which came out just days before the GSM WWE ROM
anon2122 said:
True, but there's a working radio on the VillainROM site for orange users which came out just days before the GSM WWE ROM
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ohh i see can you give me a link, because im also interested.
agarp said:
ohh i see can you give me a link, because im also interested.
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Unfortunately not right now, as the server appears to be down
But it will be back soon. When it is, go to development forum, then in the list of announcements is one for radio rom download links.
Click that, and take the second newest one iirc. Or read the later posts for people confirming which version works on which network.
www.villainrom.co.uk
anon2122 said:
Unfortunately not right now, as the server appears to be down
But it will be back soon. When it is, go to development forum, then in the list of announcements is one for radio rom download links.
Click that, and take the second newest one iirc. Or read the later posts for people confirming which version works on which network.
www.villainrom.co.uk
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thnxx alot ill try it out
Hello all,
i am totally new in the world of roots and roms.
i managed to root and enable sideloading on my atrix! yay!
1) but what can i do now?
i am thinking about installing GreyBlur
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039763)
2) can someone (who is lil patient) explain me what i would get? will my phone be faster? can i damage it since iam still new in this area?
3) anyone knows a good article/post/thread/anything where i can start getting into this root/roms area? so i can learn about it?
thanks for all your help, you are awesome.
Greetz
EDIT:
I bought an att Atrtix and got version 4.1.83 running
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He
1) but what can i do now?
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Thank you for nothing I guess. To answer your question! Irooted This phone because I want side loading enabled.
scoob8000 said:
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
Yea, he may be a noob and not know the politics of posting before reading, but I bet each one of us did at one time too. What we should be doing is just politely pointing him in the right direction on how to learn more about all things root.
Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972423 being a good place to start.
Understand though, if you screw up your phone, there is no one to blame but yourself. Read how to recover from a soft brick and hard brick before jumping in. Read all posts VERY carefully and all the way through. That's how I learned, and many others before me. And first and foremost, before asking questions about anything, do a quick search of the treads to see if it has already been asked and answered before. If you don't find your question, feel free to ask and ignore those that troll the treads.
Good luck my man.
Vangelis13 said:
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
Gr8Danes said:
Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Indeed!
Smintz said:
Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
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I am running Gingerblur which is very similar. I think it is a great ROM and one of the few so far for the Atrix. If you like some of the Blur stuff such as the gallery and social networking items, you have to understand that you will be losing them with the new ROM and going with the stock Android gallery. However, if you do a backup of your current ROM before flashing, you can always revert back if you don't like it.
Big thing, screen shots help for me. And the ROM developers do a great job at giving the details of their ROMs in their posts or websites.
Gr8Danes said:
Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
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I agree, we all have to learn, but the vast majority of us started by reading through threads which have all the info about how to flash sbf's, root, sideload, flash themes, what is and is not possible, etc. We then tried things by following the instructions.
I'm not, and was not, trying to be a ****. I am however very blunt! Everything the OP needs is already there if he/she looks. The forums are full of "repeat" threads because people are basically too lazy to read and research for themselves before asking what has already been asked numerous times.
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thanks for all your help. its time to start reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099846
Hi, Everyone. i am BRAND new to android OS. i've been using IOS until recently i got Samsung Galaxy S2 i777 ATT--running android 2.3.6 gingerbread, for $9.99 (gre8t deal huh)
1) can someone PLEASE give me Step-By-Step guide on rooting/unlocking my device?
2) what is the VERY 1st thing i should do with my phone before rooting?
--also i dont have any MicroSD--i dont use tons of App or anything so is there a problem me not having MicroSD?
--also i am Wi-Fi cover 100%, 99.99% of the times and NOT wanting to use ATT Data
once rooted--will my Internet work (must hav for myself).
3)what are ROMs (i kno little abut them) but, which one are best & how should i keep up-to-date with it?
4)once unlocked my phone, can i continue using WITHOUT paying for DATA?---like i do with my Iphone (turning 3g & cell data OFF)
i personally wana thanks to all hard working devs, i've read many posts befo. posting this and they seems to know what they doing, THank you once again!!
desichiko23 said:
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i've read many posts befo. posting this!
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I get the feeling that some (myself included) will question this part. There are guides in this forum for nearly everything you asked. Search and I'm sure you'll find them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511999
Read, Read, Read is my first tip.
Start here, you will find everything for rooting.
Just a heads up as well, the search button and google should become your best friend. This forum is a self service forum, people don't take to kindly to those that don't do their research before posting.
SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
If you are still confused after reading the link yoderk posted, then maybe you should not mess with your phone.
Just spend some time reading. Read more and rarely make new threads. This phone has been out for a while now so if you have a question, it probably has been asked before and answered.
1. It's in the link posted.
2. Turn it on
-no
-yes (unless you fuxxor it up)
3.a Did you google it?
3.b no such thing as "best" or else there would just be 1 ROM and everyone would be using the same one.
4. wifi? sure
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using Tapatalk
desichiko23 said:
SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
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Internet will work fine after rooting.
If you just got the phone, I would seriously recommend taking about 2 weeks to read up and figure out what you are doing. Everything is fairly simple once you know the terms and common lingo. Don't jump in and come out with a nice paper weight.
desichiko23 said:
SORRY!!! like i said i am DUMMMY to this android and really Fresh outta boat here. ive read alll the posts but, get very confused --sum say internet dont work after rooting....
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I suppose my previous post was less than helpful. 'pologies.
1) There is a thread that will give you step by step instructions for rooting your phone. "Zedomax" has videos available as well. Check out galaxys2root.com under the AT&T section. Yoderk's post will prove helpful, should you read it.
2) The first thing you should do is turn the phone on Kidding. Backup your apps and data, just in case. Backing things up is usually a good first option no matter what you're doing with your phone.
-- No MicroSD card, no problem. Your phone has a few gigs of memory built into it. Just buy one if you need more storage space on your phone.
-- Internet will work just fine if you root successfully. Same goes for Wifi.
3) The best ROM is the one you like the most. Try them out and see for yourself.
4) I'm not sure what you're asking with this one.
THANKS everyone, & once again SORRY---lately thats what i been doing READIN everything i can about Android
but one thing thats keep bothering me is, i saw zedomax's video and they have OLD 2.3.4 gingerbread & i have 2.3.6 gingerbread....
can i still proceed with old files? or there are upgrades that i keep missing?
desichiko23 said:
THANKS everyone, & once again SORRY---lately thats what i been doing READIN everything i can about Android
but one thing thats keep bothering me is, i saw zedomax's video and they have OLD 2.3.4 gingerbread & i have 2.3.6 gingerbread....
can i still proceed with old files? or there are upgrades that i keep missing?
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I wouldn't recommend using that method, I would flash entropy's stock package that includes root and cwm via odin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1286432
you can find it in the op of that thread.
Ok, thanks
i am sinking all the info now, gettting hang of it
one more quest. is Titanium backup free? and wht is most imp things to back up besides Apps?
I would suggest using it stock for a week, see if it does everything you need it to.
If it does, then just run stock.
That way there's no risk.
If you do decide to flash then like everyone else is saying, read and reread. Spend some time, several days just reading because there might be some little bit of information that you might miss, but is critical to a successful flash.
Good luck and welcome to freedom.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
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Ok, thanks
i am sinking all the info now, gettting hang of it
one more quest. is Titanium backup free? and wht is most imp things to back up besides Apps?
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Well you can get the free version but I highly recommend getting the pay version as it saves time hand over foot as it will bulk install all of your apps. As far as apps, maybe sms if you need them that's all I do. Just a word of advise with TB never restore system apps to a different rom, it'll give you a headache.
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
Haven't you read any of the android development ?...read,read,read......if your scared to root you shouldn't ....we all read and do research to learn what we would like do or not to do...no one hear is gonna hold your hand and dobit for you...not to sound like a d**k.....but your not apparently ready for any of this..If you wont spend the time to research
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Hey there! I have a question, I just got myself a Galaxy Note SGH I717m running 2.3.6 from Bell a week ago and I'm thinking about rooting it. I've read that a few users rendered their device laggy and choppy after doing it and I'm really new to all of this so I wanna know exactly what I need (softwares/firmwares/files) in order to root it without ****ing it up.. I'm addicted to the phone and I don't wanna make it slow!
I've found a tutorial already but the phone used for it was the international version of the galaxy note so I decided not to try it unless someone who knows what hes doing tells me that it will work and not mess anything up!
Any help/tutorial would be *GREATLY* appreciated! Thanks in advance
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I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
wish777 said:
not to sound like a d**k.....
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No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
MrJoran said:
I rooted mine using mashi's method (a rooted AT&T rom) and it made my phone incredibly laggy with respect to the capacitive buttons. However, a friend of mine also rooted his using a different method and I haven't heard him complain at all. The method he used to root is a little more complex than some of the others available.
In either case, if you do decide to take the plunge, I've made stocks files of the Bell Galaxy Note that you can flash and get back to normal. You can find them at this thread.
And what wish777 said is good advice. Read up on it before you do. Be sure you're comfortable with it.
Hopefully this helps. If you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer.
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That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
I'm still waiting for a pure mac osx root method...
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
No offense but you failed at it. I never asked for someone to do it for me!
That's definitely going to be useful, thanks a lot mate! And sorry 'bout that, next time I'm gonna read before posting on this forums.
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well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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For what it's worth, there is a LOT of information on these forums, some of it conflicting, a lot of it vague, and sometimes it's not easy to tell how it all ties together. I found that to an extent, the more I read, the more confused I got. But you gotta start somewhere. Merely reading and practical experience are two very different things. You can use Mashi's method. Personally, I used Da_G's method and found it fairly easy and "idiot-proof" but it will trip your flash counter. And I can personally vouch for MrJoran's method for returning to Bell stock (including a flash counter reset as provided by Braway). See? So many different ways of going about it! Good luck!
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I agree with you, thank you very much for your advices!
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge!! That's definitely gonna help me... I'm starting to feel a bit more comfortable with rooting my Note
wish777 said:
well after you edited your post i guess your right..lmao
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What the f, the only think I edited was the topic name.
MrJoran said:
I have to agree. Best to sift through it and find out what the general consensus is. Lot's of trial and error though. I would advise against using mashi's rooted ROM though because of the lag it caused. It's based of the AT&T ROM and does not play nice with the Bell kernel is my guess. There is a good root method here that I know has been used successfully and doesn't change the ROM you're using. And from what I understand, Da_G's method shouldn't change your ROM either but it does load an AT&T kernel I believe. Pros and cons to all the methods of course. Best of luck and don't hesitate to ask. That's how we learn.
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I completely agree that the sheer volume of information in this particular forum is overwhelming and, in many cases, unclear and not (necessarily) relevant to the Canadian Note handhelds (Rogers, Bell or Telus).
I'm looking for information specific to rooting and unrooting my Rogers Note I717R with my Bell service and it's been a frustrating couple of days, with a handful of fruitless attempts to unroot, resulting in a re-flash to stock.
Oh well...I'll keep digging and doing this research. It seems that it was so much easier on my Moto Atrix, but I digress
Thanks all!
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I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
tmcquake said:
I rooted my Rogers Note (I717R) and haven't noticed any change in performance compared to unrooted. So I wouldn't be concerned with the device becoming laggy due to rooting. However, it seems like every device has it's own quirks so I can't guarantee that rooting won't affect anything on your specific device.
In any event here's a great video tutorial on rooting - it is really easy:
There are other methods listed in the development section also, I just found this method the easiest. Hope this helps!
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Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
NaughtyBot said:
This method is easy and very similar to the one I used. But I'm fairly certain it will trip the flash counter. Just be sure to reset it if you need any warranty work.
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Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
MrJoran said:
Same one I linked in my previous post. Haven't used it personally but I know people who have and it worked for them. Added bonus of not replacing your stock ROM, which is a big plus for us Canadian users who don't want AT&T crap.
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Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
greezythumb said:
I rooted using Da_G method. Easy to follow install guide. Haven't had any problems whatsoever. But I do agree with previous posters, the info can be very overwhelming. Some devs provide good step by step info while others are vague or don't consider others level of experience when writing instructions. Read, read, read and only venture into the unknown when you are reasonably comfortable.
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Yeah, it is indeed really overwhelming, I'm kinda lost! I'll keep on reading, thanks for the precious advice!
MrJoran said:
No need to make backup unless you what to make a NANDROID using CWM. Otherwise, you can use the stock stuff I made for the Bell Note already.
Flash counter tripping is no big deal. Don't worry about it.
ROM is the operating system of the phone. And yes, this method does seem to just add what is needed to your stock ROM. But again, easy to return to stock using the files I've posted.
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Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
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Ok so if I'm right, a nandroid backup is a backup of the ROM with all the user settings/data that you can use to go back to the previous settings in case you don't like the new ROM you've flashed onto your device?
One last question, is it 100% sure that the files you uploaded are going to work my I717M? I bought it in montreal, if that can help you determining if it will work or not... And once again, thank you very much for the information!
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
NINESIXTYFOUR said:
Mine is a I717M, are you sure it'll work without causing lag?! Thank you very much for the help!! I might try to root it tonight (if I ever find a tutorial on how to backup my Note), I'll report back after here
Flash counter? Is tripping it a really bad thing?
Finally, a tutorial that seems to be trustable, great! Oh and, what do you mean by ROM? Firmware/OS? If yes, then this method will simply like "inject" the "hack" in the phone? So is it going to be easier to return to stock in case my device gets slow?
Sorry for all those questions!
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From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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You're correct on the NANDROID. And as I understand it, all the i717M are the same. I have the same i717M as you and that's where the files are from. And Naughty Bot also has an i717M and has used the files to go back to stock. The only thing that may be different on yours (and I doubt this) is there may be some French specific stuff because you bought it in Quebec but you can confirm that for us. Even if there is a long as you don't mind losing that stuff then you're good to go.
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Awesome! That's all I needed to know by the way, these are the only apps that might not be included in your files, I'm not sure though and I don't care if I loose them I think I can easily get them back on Bell's site, I will confirm that in a day or two, once I convinced myself to root the Note!
NaughtyBot said:
From what I've learned so far, there's no way to back up ALL your data and user settings until AFTER you've rooted the phone (using NANDROID or something like Titanium Backup). If you have a Google account and store your contacts and email in Gmail, that should be all be stored on Google's servers. You can use something like MyBackup Pro to back up some of your stuff but in most cases, you can't back up app data (like game saves and stuff) until after the phone is rooted. Android just won't let you get at it. However, most rooting methods don't usually touch your data, just make sure to follow the instructions closely and also make sure that the root method has been tested on your particular version of the phone. Take note that, if you unroot the phone, all your NANDROID/Titanium restore data becomes useless (phone needs to be rooted to restore it, pretty sure).
As for the flash counter, it used to be a big deal but not so much anymore. The phone has a counter that records how many times the phone has been flashed with a custom (non-stock) ROM. If you ever had to return your phone for warranty work and the counter was greater than one, Sammy had grounds to refuse to honour the warranty. You could unroot the phone but that didn't reset the flash counter. Braway came up with a method a few weeks ago but the problem was that it wasn't specifically for Canadian phones. Then MrJoran managed to obtain the stock Android components (with some help from willing friends) for the Bell Note and assembled a method of unrooting the Bell Note with provisions for resetting the flash counter. Now the only thing you have to worry about is if you brick the phone in such a way that you can't flash stock ROMs back to it. Of course, in that case Samsung probably wouldn't be able to see what you've done anyway (most likely). But once the warranty is expired, flash away. Go nuts, no warranty, doesn't matter.
I stand to be corrected on any/all of this. And what MrJoran said about the French stuff.
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Yeah you're right, the phone has to be rooted to be restored and thanks for explaining the flash counter thing in dept, it's much more clear now! I was just a bit afraid to root it since I've been experiencing a weird bug on the phone and I might have to bring it to Bell to have it checked up or something but now, it's all good!