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i have no idea what kernels, roms and modems are, yet i want my phone to be as fast as possible with the least amount of lag, to be able to download better apps (root required), and to uninstall bloatware(?). will "voiding my warranty" be beneficial to me and make me EXTREMELY happy with my vibrant as opposed to just fairly happy with it, or does it involve things way over my head that wont be worth my time and possible risk (bricking it)? to root...or not to root...? thanks for your opinions and advice!
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i have no idea what kernels, roms and modems are, yet i want my phone to be as fast as possible with the least amount of lag, to be able to download better apps (root required), and to uninstall bloatware(?). will "voiding my warranty" be beneficial to me and make me EXTREMELY happy with my vibrant as opposed to just fairly happy with it, or does it involve things way over my head that wont be worth my time and possible risk (bricking it)? to root...or not to root...? thanks for your opinions and advice!
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IMO the benefits of rooting your phone does outweigh the benefits of leaving it stock (for warranty purposes). It looks like you know what you can achieve by rooting but before you decide to, I really do recommend that you read up on every sticky there is on this forum. I did tons of lurking and even when I joined, I literally lived in the reference threads before I decided to root mine and my husband's phone. Personally, I did it because our phones began to lag so much and my hubby's phone was in desperate need of reflashing to stock (it was crashing randomly and relocking itself after unlock - it was a good thing I had saved our codes). Just having ROM Manager and Titanium Backup saved so many butts on this forum when unfortunate things happen while experimenting.
Take my advice...
Rooting your vibrant can be "glorious"... if you follow directions.
First read some "first time" threads... get familiar etc..
Some advice.
1. Use one click root, or some other "one click solution"
2. After rooting, start small by installing clock work mod.
MAJOR: Make a backup... NANDROID BACKUP SAVES EVERYONE!
3. After this, start applying some mods like lockscreen etc...
4. Then start by flashing kernels. (start with voodoo... this makes the phone fast)
(then flash bali, you will get 1.5 days worth of battery life, with 10% to spare)
5. Then flash roms! They can change your phone experience!
Be sure to read directions, and don't be afraid to ask 10000's of questions on threads to make sure you know what you are flashing (just make sure it hasn't been mentioned on the first post)
do i only have one kernel and one rom at a time or can you have mult kernels/roms installed?
Op, I would encourage reading the guides in my signature. Let me know if I can help.
Rooting is the best thing you can do for your phone in my opinion.
Bro take a look at some post and you better follow directions... its the best thing for your phone, just like a new girl u have and u ask how the hell you could get her.. lml get familiar with odin because it will be your best friend to unbrick... also get z4root app to easy root, search in the bar for it cuss its not in the market... anything just ask me brother..... but first get familiar with all about rooting this phone ... gonna skip some bricks like happened to me when started
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If you root the phone try using my rom lols
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Root is great fella read up on it. You can always unroot and what not if you need to take it back
I use swype so expect bad grammar and errors
And I would say the exact opposite about one-click roots.. your choice man. And this phone is incredibly (incredibly) hard to brick...
You guys are talking to a phone!
The phone wants to know and you answer lol your being mocked.
OP (vibrant) correct me if im wrong.
If I am well then take s15's advice and learn from him thru his sig
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Actually, just in case you won't to look at options...
here is a guide I typed up for someone last night that lists the steps of going to ODIN > Root > CWR > Flash
Here are the steps.. again, I have more detailed guides but this shows you the process pretty easily.
Shortbus-Driver said:
You guys are talking to a phone!
The phone wants to know and you answer lol your being mocked.
OP (vibrant) correct me if im wrong.
If I am well then take s15's advice and learn from him thru his sig
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LOL! nah, ya'll been giving some real good advice, exactly what i was looking for! (was still asleep when ya'll started posting this morn) anyway, thanks everyone!!
s15...of course i am at work now so i cant really sit down and go over the info in your sigs, but you bet your @ss i'm going to when i get home. your time and help has been very much appreciated, and i prob will end up asking a couple of questions, but i guerss thats what you guys are here for!! thanks again to EVERYONE who replied to my original questions
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s15...of course i am at work now so i cant really sit down and go over the info in your sigs, but you bet your @ss i'm going to when i get home. your time and help has been very much appreciated, and i prob will end up asking a couple of questions, but i guerss thats what you guys are here for!! thanks again to EVERYONE who replied to my original questions
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OP anything you need just pm me, well pm me before rooting so you dont be bored reading, ill provide you with all you need including eugene froyo that does not brick... pm me and ill tell you everything you need brother
Yeah, be sure and read some and then if anything doesn't make sense or you question the process, just let me know. Then go back and read again... you will be confident in the steps. It's not hard.
Telling someone not to read because it's boring is so uncool.
bosina said:
OP anything you need just pm me, well pm me before rooting so you dont be bored reading, ill provide you with all you need including eugene froyo that does not brick... pm me and ill tell you everything you need brother
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1 - Bored reading? You don't think people should KNOW what they are doing?
2 - Why in the world would he need Eugene's froyo that does not brick, why make it harder?
3 - read 1 and 2.
I have the AT&T model and I want a ICS stock root without all the garbage apps and shenanigans AT&T forces on your phone.
I already looked around in the ROM directory and I did find this thread which seems to match what I'm looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752232
Is the ROM in this link a pre-rooted ROM?
But I need to be careful to keep my phone rooted as I don't live in America anymore and I don't want my phone to get locked or I cannot receive calls.
I am currently using a stock gingerbread ROM rooted.
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
hd779 said:
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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Could you post a link? I could not find it.
You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Nice thank you.
Also would you happen to have a link that would have instructions and download links to flashing a ROM. Its been a while since I last did this and I don't wanna brick my phone.
This is the closest I could find but I remember there being a better one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Why not look in development?????
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Why not look in development?????
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I am and I'm getting a bit confused. If I remember correctly when I last did this all the ROMS i tried were .tar files, now they are all .zip files and when I extract the file I cannot find a .tar in any folders.
T.T
Search for creepyncrawly's guide to flashing. No offense, but you've got a lot to learn, buddy. And uh, I wouldn't post asking questions like "I want this kind of ROM" or "help me learn how to flash again" until you've read a lot, since people around here highly discourage that kind of thing. Just warning you in advance.
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
EDIT: I tried searching for creepyncrawly's guide and came out empty handed. These forum search functions never work properly, can someone just link me there?
Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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If you're rooted you can skip to installing a custom kernel, yes. Make sure to read the flash counter though, it's important that you know how to do that.
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Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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Make sure you have clockwork mod installed, if you did not flash a custom kernel you may not have it. If you don't you may need to flash a custom kernel and then go from there. If you know how to get in recovery try to and see if clockwork mod shows up. If its the default recovery you will need to flash a custom kernel from there you can flash whatever rom you want.
Sky` said:
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Same here bro, even coming from OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i read everything there was on i777 forums (stickies in general and development) before i even tried to flash anything... if only everyone did some reading... I mean I've been running custom roms since September '11, I don't think I've ever asked how to do something so simple, really tho? Which ics rom? Just read the first few pages of each thread that interests you, Itll help you and XDA as A whole. I've yet to brick my phone, I've gone thru numerous roms. Not trying to be a *****, but what you're asking XDA members to do for you is remedial...
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I'm on UnNamed and now with official ICS out I'm looking at development and reading up again and it's getting confusing because I see AJs rom and it seems nice but I don't seem to see (correct me if I'm wrong) Entropy as active on kernel development and UnNamed has sort of been "abandoned" other than Ryudes project. I guess what a lot of people are hoping for is an "UnNamed" style ICS with a very stable stock based kernel, all stock flame aside, that's 100% daily driver capable. I like 2.3.4, does everything I need my phone to do daily, I rely heavily on gps and bluetooth for driving which are some of the issues I read about with the ported kernels, as well as various mic swap stuff which is intimidating to be completely honest. Does anyone know if there is work on something stock based with a DD style kernel? I know this is fairly new ground so I'm not wanting to come off as ungrateful for the work that is going on and that has been done.
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I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
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I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
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Yes, I agree that preparing to flash something on your phone when you start with no knowledge can be confusing, and overwhelming for some. There are clearly differences in how the mind works from one person to another. Some pick up technical issues fairly quickly, others (my wife, who is a musician with creative temprament, for instance) have difficulty even retaining the technical information they have already learned.
However, you flashed UCLE5 stock plus root from the OP of my thread in the development forum without first doing a wipe data/factory reset. So did you read through the text of the OP of that thread and fail to understand what was written there, or did you just not read it? If you are the type of person that doesn't grasp technical issues easily or at all, then you should not be messing with your phone. This is a ~$500.00 device which you could easily destroy if you do the wrong thing.
Or... you should take as long as you need to fully understand what you are doing, even if it takes weeks or months before you flash anything. Let go of instant gratification for once.
I sure hope you followed the OP of the thread and flashed a custom kernel. If you haven't, then whatever you do, Do Not Do A Wipe Data/Factory Reset while the UCLE5 kernel is still installed.
Further, you have started several different threads and posted in others, all about the same issue, which is very close to spamming the forums. Please make yourself aware of the rules of this place, and conform to them.
As far as the wallpaper issue, I find it hard to believe that you could search and find absolutely nothing on this. All the ICS leaks contain this bug, or feature. The new SGS III also has the exact same issue. You can set a portrait wallpaper but not a scrolling one. There are a multitude of wallpaper programs on the Google Play Store that will fix the issue. You can also install another launcher, such as Apex, to fix the issue.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Yeah, but someone will STILL get offended. lol
And I'm going to +1 to all who suggested Task650's AOKP Rom's. I've been running them for quite a while and they're one of the best around.
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
appfactory said:
Could someone point me to the ultimate thread for this?
I know nada about rooting, and im also new to Android, and before i dig into to that, i need info on do's and dont's, advantages/disadvantages, what to look out for, and if the process can be reversed back to stock fw?
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
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GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
squ89r97 said:
GT-I9300 General Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1564
everything you need to know is in there, do some reading and once you've read it, read it again.
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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So there are no other ways to find out than reading 100 000 of posts multiple times to get help on that?
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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yes, use search, it's honestly not hard. I'll give you a hand
***Roll-Up Sticky Thread*** Stickies found here!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
This is the 7th post down in the General thread, no where near 100000.
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, thats why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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My bad, i should have mentioned that ive already used the notorious search button, which apparently leads to ALOT of DIFFERENT threads about the same topic, hence my question, "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs"
Im sorry, but I dont know which is the right thread and not, if i did, i wouldnt bother asking that question, would i?
there is no "right thread" and they are all full of various things you could do with knowing. there are a lot of people who come here expecting a quick and easy "which is the ULTIMATE thread for noobs" - there is none, they're all relivant.
In theory its just downloading a file, unzip it, connect phone to computer and execute, right?
http://youtu.be/vhSSmdqAXRM
However, after a long life, my experience is that it would be convenient to know more than just the action itself, cause there are always traps, which isnt always mentioned or described in those threads cause they take for granted that people who want to do this already know everything about it.
If there are risks involved doing it, like choosing the wrong vers, having the wrong bb etc, i want to learn and be aware of it BEFORE i attempt or even consider doing it, cause i dont want to brick my phone.
I agree with everything you said here, which is why you should read the threads, they're all relivant
Unfortunatelly i have a daytime job, and not much time left for reading through endless threads and comments, that's why i addressed the experienced members in here that already know what im looking for, and can in his, or her way save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case
unfortunately, i also have a day time job (oh what a chore hey?) most of the people, including the devs and the more experienced members here have jobs too, i doubt they all came here with instant vast knowledge on how to flash and all of it's woes, i also doubt they just came here and asked someone to pick out all the best bit for them. I bet they read all the posts, dammit they made the posts, the roms you will use, the rooting procedures. everything on here - for you to say "save me for reading all the stuff that i dont need to know, or are irrelevant in my case" is just being ignorant, as i've said everything is relevant, it seems that you want to know everything and share the knowledge but don't want to read about it - it's the only way to learn
Btw, i got a GT-I9300 with 4.1.2 - BB I9300XXEMB5
Dont mean to be rude, but sharing is caring, and i would love to help others in the same way sharing my knowledge, if i could, instead of just inform people about the search function... its getting old.
how do you expect to share knowledge, if you don't read all the info and just get told what you want to know?
Im a little tired of all the wise guys in here sitting on their horses pretending to know everything, but isnt willing to help or share in a nice way, instead just being arrogant in a patronizing way.
i'm pretty sure all the "wise guys" on here are fed up with noobs (I by the way, still consider myself a noob) coming here and asking for things to be given to them on a silver platter! we/they are not being patronizing or arrogant, they are simply telling you to do your research - just like they did.
I can assure you, if you threat people more friendly, people will show more gratefulness in return, and if you dont, u get ungrateful speaches like this in return instead
i think you meant treat not "threat" oh and thanks for the assurance . i'm sorry you are being ungrateful just because someone (I) told you to read up! - it's probably not the best way to get help when you refer to the members as "wise guys" "sitting on their high horses" "being arrogant in a patronizing way" - that's how you portray friendliness?
A good atmosphere is much easier to achieve if you include people, rather than exclude them....
Hope i dint offend you with my "speach"
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not offended at all :crying:
I'm sorry you feel the way you do, but i'm not being an A$$ - i'm telling you that what you need to know is all in those posts.
i'm done :laugh:
Of course mate, i didnt expect you to read for me, lol, but i was hoping to get pointed to the "most relevant" thread about what i wanted to know, and probably one single thread would be more than enough info to read up.
Forums like these are getting out of proportions after some years, and sometimes impossible to navigate through, and why shouldnt i be allowed to ask for help or shortcuts? Who made up that rule?
If i had been here two years longer than you, doesnt mean i need to hold back any info cause i had to learn everything the hard way, instead i would gladly at least guide people in the right direction.
Ive been in allot of different forums over the past years with different kinds if subjects, but never a forum like this where people are so grumpy and very little welcoming and including, there are no "welcome to the forum buddy, i will try my best to guide you in the right direction"
Eventually one will find the way on its own, but sometimes its nice to be lead onto the right path.
I totally agree, and i ALWAYS try to find the answers im looking for through the search function before i ask, but when i stall, i post in a friendly and humble way like i tried to in my original post.
If all the answers to your questions was to read through every topic, there would be vert little activity in here, but then again, maybe easier to browse through.
A forum where its "stupid" or not "allowed" to ask questions is to me more equal to Google... yea, Google is your friend, but sometimes you wish to know more spesific things...
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
they have a link for the rooting guides for the noobs at the section list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
All in one tool
appfactory said:
And thanks to you too, im not rooting my phone, cause im not able to find the proper info im looking for... and gives me one more reason to get back to my "boring" Iphone again... but hey, life goes on anyway... :good:
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I don't want to sound arrogant or anything and I am always happy to help, but if you do not find the guide for rooting... it seems you didn't follow the advice given to you in the posts earlier.
That are stickies in the general section which will help you to understand the basics of rooting, flashing etc. And in addition you have tons of YouTube guides out there.
Hence I wish you good luck, anything is out there for you to learn and share later on, just a little bit of effort is needed to get there.
Btw here you go again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113 and even at the beginning of the q&a section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148708
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I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
jje
JJEgan said:
I am going to add that you should pick the method that you actually understand the instructions for . That goes for all other flashes updates etc .
If you don't understand then you will probably be joining the help i bricked my phone club .
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Finally someone who understands where im going with this, thanks... And that was the intention with this thread, to get a pointer to the one or maybe two or even three or four threads that covers the most essential things... I dont know whats essential or not (yet), i can surely read dozens of how to's but i still dont know if its the right solution for my phone and the vers i have.
A bit like jb an iphone, just download this and do that... "oh, you had that bb vers" "thats the only one thats not compatible with this vers" sorry u bricked your phone.
But it feels like its just, if u got the balls, or know everything about it, just do it, or everything is at your own risk, its a hit or miss thing...
I dont think i will root my phone after all, cause there are so much info on how to do it that differs from eachother, and nobody cant seem to tell which thread is the right one for MY phone...
But thanks anyway, to those that actually tried to point me there...
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Sorry you are wrong a day or two actually reading the basic faqs and guides is the starting point that you don't want to start with .This is after all a developers forum that has no place spoon feeding those that dont want to learn .
Their is no best the basic stickied faqs and guides all say the same as do the instructions for each method .
The confusion lies in answers to posts like this where xx say this way is best and b say no use x .Unfortunately due to multiple same posts it is not that easy to navigate the forum but the answer to that is for noobs to bother reading the facts and guides before posting repetitive questions .
I would in your case read the instructions and use CF Root method .
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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If youre right, thats the shortest and best answer so far, :good: given
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Look for cf auto root if you don't want recovery to be stock. Use cf root if u want the custom recovery. To all advanced user out there, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Haha. Can't edit with xda app. What I really mean is, cf auto root will not change your recovery. Accidentally put "dont" there.
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Hello there. Basically, I was on the newest (I think) Alliance Rom with Dorimanx kernel for s2. however, it began to get quite buggy, and I tried to flash a new kernel onto it. Siyah. then I tried to flash Cyanogenmod onto it. Restarted, phone won't load past the siyah logo. But I get the siyah recovery menu thing still. But when I try to install the cyanogenmod zip, it fails. I have no other roms on my sd card, or kernels, for that matter.
Please can somebody advise me what to do. I need my phone for work in 5 hours! I was thinking a fix possibly with Odin? Although, I'm guessing if I wiped the phone, kies will no longer be on there. Not sure what it means for it.
thanks.
It's Jellybean by the way
1) Use a more descriptive title than 'HELP !'. Many people will ignore your thread/not read it for that alone (which means you might miss out on help).
2) If you've still got CWRecovery, you still should be able to flash something without resorting to Odin. I would suggest perhaps you're not following the instructions on the first page of the CM thread to the letter. Try it again.
If you really can't flash anything in recovery & still have bootloop (I.E recovery seems broken), get a stock rom from Samfirmware, flash it with Odin = clean slate & you can then re-root your phone & have another go at flashing whatever rom/kernel you want to use.
Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
I can't get any zip files onto my phone or the SD card. so flashing from the phone is pretty much a no.
I can try Odin, however, I barely know what it is. Is anybody willing to just tell me what to click?
No spoon feeding allowed mate. No one will hold your hand and tell you what button to click. I may as well fly over there and do it myself.
If you want to know about Odin flashing click the link in my signature and look at the section on how to flash.
But, I still don't think you need to use Odin. In CWM recovery, Mount usb storage, connect to pc, transfer rom.zip onto phone sd from pc, unmount usb & then flash rom. Done.
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Okay.. Seems a bit odd, being a help section, in a forum. I just figured since I'm dealing with something that could potentially break/brick my phone, I would rather do it right as opposed to wrong, considering I have never done it myself before.
Thanks though, I didn't actually know I could mount it without actually booting the phone. I'll try that.
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Thanks, and thanks for telling me about the title, I guess, my apologies, but urgency is urgency.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
I'm not even being harsh with what I say. I didn't write out the steps, but I did give you a direct link to a place which lists the steps. That's a legitimate A to your Q.
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Yet you still haven't changed it. Urgency may well be urgency, but you either want to make that small change & potentially get the help you need if you get stuck further, or you don't. No skin off any of our noses either way *shrugs*.
P.S - Forum rules are forum rules.
Edit - And the reason Hopper said what he said - this may well be a Q&A forum, but that doesn't mean we regurgitate stuff that's been asked/answered thousands of times over the past two years for any n00b who thinks they deserve same.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418262
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413627
Just a few more that just say "help". I can see that it is not posing a ****ing problem. Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone help who is more helpful than you. I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
Either way, I've managed to fix the problem, so no more needs to be done.
Thank you to those who gave me advice.
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Not to mention (may be my fault) but I don't see any way to change the title.
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As far as I'm concerned mate, I wanted help with something, went to the HELP section of a FORUM, and got help, so you can go **** yourself if you have a problem with that. I don't go to forums to just chat about my day. If what I did ask was too much for you, then just let someone who is more helpful than you.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
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I didn't ask anybody to troll the net for files, or anything of the sort, I asked for legitimate help with something I didn't know how to do.
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They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Please show respect to senior members. They have been here longer than you, obviously dealt with problems much similar to your and want you to search for yourself, that is why the search buttons are there. Did you watch 'I am a noob in XDA Developers' video?
And you obviosuly have no idea why they say this, but it's because you will learn for yourself. In near future you will search and find answers yourself if you start now (which they are trying to make you do) other than just relying on other people to do your work for you. That's not the way XDA developers work.
So rather then being disrespectful and throwing insults at them, you should thank them
They gave you good guidance mate :-/
PS. Kies is crap - get rid of it.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes - I appreciate the fact that I was helped the amount I was, but I could say the same. Is that the best way to treat new members? I have already apologized twice for my mistakes, at least, and I STILL have people telling me I'm doing things wrong. Also, it's not like I haven't thanked them. I think I thanked them at the end of nearly every post. Anything else to pick at?
I'm not trying to disrespect - just trying to prove my point. If you didn't want to help me, don't, just don't ***** about the fact that I wanted help. :/
My problem is fixed, that's all that matters.
thanks again.
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Yes it's the right way to treat new members.
You are doing things wrong, respecting other members is a rule of XDA and you're not doing it - so you're doing it wrong.
Good you thanked. But was i necessary to disrespect. Yes you were disrespecting.
Prove your point? That it's okay to spoonfeed newbies and making them think that they wont have to do anything, just ask and wait?! No that's not right, as already stated.
You wanted to help how exactly? To tell us that we should do it 'the way you like it'? No that's wrong, accept it!
Dont come here and try to flame, there's a rule against that. Take you crap elsewhere, cause with that attitude you probably wont get much help around here or anywhere else for that matter.
This is my last post and visit here, so dont even bother commenting if there anything about me.
OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
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OK so I;m a total noob to this awesomeness, but my problem is no matter how many apps Ive downloaded to help me flash a ROM to my Galaxy s4 SCH-I545 I simply do not see the advanced options in recovery mode. Am I doing something horribly wrong or is it a simple fix that I will probably feel totally embarrassed about. Also the little green android dude always shows error above it.Please Help
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You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
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You really need to educate yourself. Just jumping in like it appears you are will only cause a lot of problems. No one is going to take you step by step through the entire process. Read, read, read. Research as much as you can. Then research some more. It's the best thing you can do.
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Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
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Believe me i have researched a lot but i cant find anything on why my advanced options wont appear when i go into recovery mode. My green android guy always shows error when i enter recovery. Is that something i'm doing wrong, if it is is there a link for someplace i can find the fix to.
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Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
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Do you even know what your build number is? Are you rooted? If so, what method did you use to root? What recovery are you trying to use?
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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If you actually did research you would know that you can't install a custom recovery to a MK2 build. Your ONLY option is Safestrap. (Search).
Good luck.
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My build number is MK2 , yes i am rooted i used the Vroot program to root my phone which i have seen in a couple of videos and they said it was safe to use. and i have used the twrp method and also the manual methong up volume button + home (center button) + power ON button.
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"They" said Vroot was safe to use.
Did "They" also tell you to then try to flash a custom recovery like TWRP? Then "They" lied.
You're on MK2. As I've told five or six people today, you can't have a custom recovery on any I454 other than those on the MDK build.
First, there's several different phones called the Galaxy S4. The hardware and software aren't the same between vendors. The Verizon model is VERY locked down and won't permit you to flash custom ROMs. For you, on MK2, Safestrap is the only way to custom flash.
Read the threads here on Safestrap and the thread in the development forum to help you understand what you can do.
They're long threads, but read them. If you can't spend the time to read, don't flash, as you'll just brick your phone.
Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Thank you for understanding. I am sorry I am a noob and as expected I didn't know what exactly to research up. I didn't know as a NOOB that I said I was that the build number was my problem. There for I researched what I did know and you can see when i became a member and when I decided to post this and every day in between I was trying different methods on how to get a custom ROM on my phone. Luckily for me you were very resourceful and I learned a great deal from you and appreciate it a lot. I know what you are doing is really aggravating and i praise you for your knowledge. I just hope next that next time we are in contact and I knowingly ask a noobish question you will be a little more understanding with me. The only reason that I posted on here was because I felt that I had tried every possible way and was doing something wrong and it happens to be that I just couldn't do it the ways I was researching up. Thanks a lot for all your help boss man I hope soon enough I can pick your brain for all the knowledge you have when I come across another problem with rooting a different device or just some questions about a certain Rom.
Ok so I just want to say thank you all for your help and the advice you gave me it was totally awesome. I got it to work and now im running Hyperdrive on my galaxy s4. thank you so much.
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Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
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there is nothing mean about commenting on researching and fully understanding before proceeding. We have dozens of posts every day in this forum by "noobs" who don't take 5 minutes to read anything. And then expect massive help when they screw their phones up....
There are all sorts of youtube videos on just about every aspect of GS4. We have countless threads on what you can and can't do to the GS4 and yet every single day we have new posters asking why they can't load any rom they want or whats taking so much time to get a bootloader unlocked,,,,we have dedicated Devs who basically donate their time to all of us. The least we can do is educate ourselves in what we can and can't do....
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And you are very right with your statement I completely agree with you. But as a noob to this I tried to educated myself as much as possible The only thing I hate more is not being able to figure something out on my own. But I had no clue what was my problem to the fact that I couldn't flash a rom with all the possibilities and programs at my disposal. It was just not knowing what to search not the fact that all noobers are lazy
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Just because he is new doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, I know this happens a lot but being mean never does anything but cause more problems.
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Sorry if you think I'm being a jerk, but I wasn't exaggerating. Five to ten people come here just about every day wondering why their phone bricked due to trying to install custom recovery when spending just an hour of two reading this forum would have made it clear that they can't do that.
Trust me, I wasn't being mean, simply blunt. I'm astonished by anyone that thinks that flashing random stuff onto a $600 phone without spending an hour or two to understand what they're doing is a good idea.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to be mean because you do but before you are just figure out if they are Are the stupid noobs or the ones that actually took the time to try to search but couldn't come up with anything. Just remember not every is a complete idiot of a noon.
The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
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The thing is that we all were noobs once, but we didn't ask anyone to hold our hands. Unfortunately I can't say I believe you tried as hard as you say you did OP. I mean if your new to rooting, the first thing you should do is search google or youtube for a guide. That's a pretty basic realization all of us had when we learned about this hobby. If you had read or watched any of those guides, you would know everything in rooting depends on a device's bootloader status and how to learn the status of your own bootloader. Then you would've known where to begin in searching in XDA. XDA clearly states it is a site for development & developers, so question's that are covered in any of the thousands of beginner guides get met with harsh responses.
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We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
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We all have our beliefs and no one can argue but all I'm saying is that the only thing that stopped me was that I didn't know that the me7/mk2 build could not be flashed like I tries through Odin or goo manager or any of the other 10 ways I tried. But once I found out about safestrap it was all good money. And I thank everyone on here for the advice.
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Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
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joshm, we all get a bit perturb with new posters becasue we know if some rudimentary research was done on their part before they leaped into rooting and romming and all that, 90% of the problems would cease. I have taken dozens of PMs from people who were lost and I kept sending them to links that I was able to find in minutes of searching either the XDA forums or elsewhere. We do have the right to get a bit frustrated when we see post after post of why can't I do this or why can't I do that.
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I've certainly done some stupid things and asked some obvious questions when I 1st hopped on xda. But I'd like to think I've settled in ok. Seems to me though this is just how it's going to be huh? You two know far more than I do and even I'm hopping on the q&a side and trying to help people like you do.
It would be nice to have stickys regarding all the really easy things like. ... No custom recovery for any Verizon S4 unless you're on MDK. Sadly I know many people won't read that either. Not 100% on exactly what it takes to create a sticky,obviously a mod has to, but that would be a start.
And I know the search function works awesome these days too! I think people get excited and are in a hurry to get flashing away and ask silly questions later when their S4 is stuck at the Verizon splash screen or bootlooping.
Verizon Galaxy S4
SafeStrap 3.71
Hyperdrive 12
joshm.1219 said:
Sorry if i came off as harsh. Feel free to PM me if you have a question you think might be noobish, i get a lot of them but ill try to help whenever i can.
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Hey no problems man i totally understand where you guys come from. But enjoy your day