To buy Hero or not to buy Hero! - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey!
This might not be the best place to ask this question (a Hero forum) but here goes.
My current contract runs out beginning of 2010 (UK) and I want to get an Android phone next. So question is do i get a Hero or wait to see if the Moto Droid or SE Racheal come out in the UK before 2010?
Ive been waiting for ages for my current contract to expire so I'm tempted to rush and get a Hero but would that me a mistake!?
Any takers?

If you're on the fence, it might just as well be worth it to wait and see what the other one is like so you never have any doubts.

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If you're on the fence, it might just as well be worth it to wait and see what the other one is like so you never have any doubts.
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I concur.
The second you upgrade your phone and take out a new contract, you've effectively made yourself obsolete because the next best thing is always just around the corner.
I got my Hero in July when they first came out, so I'm nearly 6 months down the line, but I'm still happy.
However, if I was in your position, I would probably wait 3 or 4 months to see what happens next because whilst I love my Hero, it is old news even now to a certain extent. I can definitely see HTC releasing a Snapdragon based Android device in the 1st half of 2010, so I would wait if I were you.
Regards,
Dave

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I'm waiting for the HTC Dragon
1Ghz CPU and Android 2.0

If you can wait till next year Feb, I'll prefer this
http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/02/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-announced-we-go-hands-on/

The Xperia X10 is going to ship with 1.6 Donut. That seems very much like a shot in the foot to me, when 2.0 Eclair is already available.
Regards,
Dave

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Question to all the HTC Hero owners

I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
Would still buy it, love the design, and i have had it for over a month and been using it all the time .. It's the best mobile i ever bought!
Since a lot of android phones are coming out I would wait.
But if you are looking for a small and powerful device instead of a big smartphone then it's the right choice, in my opinion.
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
Aridon said:
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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Exactly.
I will be looking at the X3 when it is out, I was so keen on it I thought about waiting.
The hero is a great phone, bugs have been fixed and the Rom cookers are just getting going with it. Get the hero, enjoy it for a few months, suff it on ebay if you want a change and get something new in the spring- thats what I'm doing.
have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
suisen said:
have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
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Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
would buy it again. the hardware is very decent, performancewise, featurewise & haptic-wise (a.k.a. it performs well, has all the nice sensors you could need and the look&feel is great also). the software has already been modded extensivly, and since the kernel sources are out since last week the real good stuff is still to come... if you wait then you will have to wait until the new device is released, then till it is rooted, then till someone cooks a decent rom, then for the kernel sources, then for someone to actually use the kernelsources... if you're not into doing this as the first person in the world then get an "old" (as in 'a few months on the market') device.
and just get the fact, you will never be up-to-date in the it business...
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
Buy the phone, it's really nice and it's always developing cos of the apps. I am happy with my phoen had it 3 weeks now and it will last well.
Hero 2 will be a while yet and that will be worth getting if HTC improve on this one and not stay still.
Get it, you won't be regretting it.
I would definitely buy it again.
chopper45 said:
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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Nooooooooooooooo!!!
Aridon said:
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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I totally agree.
I came from winmo on a HD and now I won't touch winmo, although if M$ ever get their arse into gear and bring out winmo7 I will take look but it would have to have some killer features to lure me away from android.
Put simply Android is awesome, took me a few days to get out of my corrupt winmo mentality and get used to Android. The Hero is real nice , personally I could do with a bigger screen but if you don't need a bigger screen get that Hero bought now!
badantii said:
Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
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i'm not disappointed, i just think black and brown look a lot better. When i bought it i didn't have a choice, now there is. Also, i like the soft rubbery feel of the black one, teflon is nice but nothing really special. The soft black one is great.
chopper45 said:
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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iphone is good if you like apple choosing what apps you can and cannot have and at&t coverage is far from stelar...
not trying to start a war but those are a couple of the many reasons why i like my i wouldn't buy an iphone and bought the hero
Hi,
I agree with other posters, that if you wait, you'll always be waiting. The HTC Dragon looks like it may be interesting but by the time it's in your hand there'll be a 1.5Mhz phone out.
After years with UIQ and WinMo, the Hero is the best phone I've had. Sure the screen is smaller than on the HD but it's a proper, capacitive touch screen. Also no stylus.
Also the Hero feels more "connected". Even with the power and functionality of the HD, I never felt truly mobile with it. With the Hero I feel much more able to update my blog, my facebook, twitter etc. This may be due to the lack of a stylus but it also seems far quicker connected to t'internet.
Just my half shilling.
M
rdgut said:
I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
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I buy my Hero, 2 weeks after it was released. I'm still new with android, ut i like'it i love'it. Usualy i get verry fast boored by a phone, i must say that i have'it for 3 months allready and it will last long for sure. In the place where i work i got wi fi, and i make a chalenge with my husband( He has a blackstone) wich one is faster. . I won!( Then our colegs start to cal us the htc family ) Besides allways u got something on the market for your phone, and think about, is an open source for development . So go for it!Just do it!
Go on buy it!!!
I would buy it again and again...
I was going to wait to see what is going to be coming out soon... but then I thought... why? If something new comes out - it's only a matter of time (usually 2-3 months) before something newer will be released.
You can't get better than the Hero right now. I've had HTC phones for a few years now and they have all been good.
Android is awesome!
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Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
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I had a very good working HTC Kaiser with WM6.1. I used the ported Android which ran slow. But the experience I had with the ported Android, made me decide to buy the Hero.
You are Dutch, as I am, so why don't you have a look at Marktplaats? I bought mine there, too. Just ask them for their receipt they received when they bought it.
When you want more info, send me a private message.
as for a question: would I buy it again... YES.
as for a question: is it too early for android... YES
To be honest, I love it. WM is crap and we all know it. And for some people who don't want an I-phone, this is an alternative.
I have some weird principles... I haven't bought Nokia since 1994 - i know everybody had one, but I loved my Ericsson, i have never bought a BMW - I know it handles great and sometimes when I want to have some fun I borrow one from my friends, but generally i don't like it, I drive Audi, I will never buy a shirt that says D&G in your chest because it's just plain stupid, I prefer my clothes to be quality products but not to show off to everybody... and then again I have an I-pod because there is just no alternative...
And when it comes to phones I like to try something else than I-phone and Hero is the one to try... Gadget of the Year by "T3", Gadget of the Year by "Stuff"... I think we have a good phone in our hands.
And the fact that it is too early for Android... yes it is, but is it not wonderful to be a part of an evolution??? I think it is just amazing.

Well, that it was a good run

Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
it's really all verizon's fault, they NEVER promoted the eris, and if you went in there wanting to buy one they would push the droid on you like no tomorrow.
hopefully this doesnt stop them from releasing the 2.1 OTA update to the general public, it will really help development along for us. Someday, when my eris dies I will upgrade (damn that incredible looks so good...) but until that day, I dont regret a single thing about it. except for installing leak, good thing a got a replacement though
It always seemed to me like the Eris has been advertised as Verizon's cheaper (even free for a lot of us) alternative to the Droid, and it did it's job well.
With the Incredible and Nexus One and all of the other phones (probably) coming out soon I'd expect the Droid to take the Eris' place in the lineup, like a "Buy a new HTC Incredible and get a Motorola Droid FREE" kind of deal.
ah.... oh well...
Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
Android22 said:
Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
The Long and The Short of it...
WalkingTaco said:
Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
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We all know technology changes daily be it hardware or software or whatever...
Cell phones, pda's ect are particularly susceptible as they are market driven and manufacturers are always trying to come out with the "Next Big Thing".
Hell the moto droid is now available on several websites for 20 bucks on a new 2 year...Letstalk.com etc...
Being a former 8 year blackberry user I can say this for Android at least theyre not just putting a new facade over a dated os\ui . So long as my eris doesnt melt down at the end of life date I'm good. Also so long as you're a VZW customer you'll get support for your device even if it is minimal.
I always felt the Eris was kind of an afterthought, the way they marketed it.
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
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It's just a thought for now... I haven't totally decided but I will wait and see what the HTC incredible or whatever VZW comes out with, has to offer... if its something like an amazingly fast phone I'll probably get it.. if not I will stay with the Eris.. I don't hate the Eris, I think it is one amazing phone
plus I'd still be on here [XDA] using the Eris for testing stuff, helping out as much as I can..
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
and what about in six more months after that and they double the specs on the incredible
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Lemcott said:
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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exactly... I will see when i comes out what people are saying first.. and the eris is an amazing phone for the price. I really dont think you can beat the value.
After rocking an HTC Touch for 1.5 years, I bought a brand new Eris from someone and avoided a contract reset just a week ago. I think it's a great phone, and I have no regrets. I can upgrade anytime but I'm still on a very good Alltel contract so I want to hold out as long as I can before switching to a VZW plan. It does everything I need it to do.
Has anyone heard anything more about this? I'd like to know if it's actually going to happen or not. Although I'm sure if it is we'll find out soon.. I'd also like to know if they'd offer us an upgrade for free or at least half price. If they stop doing the phone completely I think they should at least offer us something. I'd love to upgrade to the Incredible if it was free or half price..
why would they give us a new phone simply because they've stopped selling it?
If you have to do a warranty replacement or anything like that, I'm sure there is a large multitude of backup units, and once those run out/they stop carrying those, verizon will simply replace it with a phone of equal value and hardware features like they always have done for discontinued phones.
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looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of t
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
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Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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sms440 said:
Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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I just read an article about the nexus one being scrapped. Thought you just another person complaining because they were impatient. I'll eat my words and apologize now.
yeah, the nexus one is pretty dead.
plagued by 3g problems, and low sales, the only thing to really look forward to in picking one up over another phone like the incredible is that it it's wireless N chipset miiiiiiiiiiight (big might) get support soon.
honestly, for the price you'd be better off getting an incredible and waiting for root to get vanilla-android.
and man, why do people hate sense ui so much? the only ONLY problem it has is how laggy it can get. and on the eris? honestly, I expected it when I bought it looking at the specs. but upgrading to 2.1 got rid of ALL the lag for me. I love the look and extra screens of sense.
and jebus... the incredible is rocking DOUBLE the cpu and ram hardware, using nearly the same rosie build as the eris. it will be faster then us on 2.1 out of the freaking box, and with root... you'll be blazing through apps like crazy.

No 2.1 upgrade for hero ......

New Response From [ Pete (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Hi Hywel, thanks for your email.
I understand this may be frustrating, but the 16th was never the release date. there were some 'leaks' on the internet, but those were incorrect, It was never planned for today at all.
The update will be available for everyone from the end of the month as planned. it will be phased out over a week or so to spread out the download demand, but it was certainly never going to appear today.
Best regards,
Pete W
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Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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2010/04/16 09:54
They never said that ROM 2.1 will be released on 16th. I don't know where you get that.
1st they said they will release 2.1 ROM upgrades in March. When March came they said that due to some technical issues we have to wait till mid April for release.
So now it is mid April and some tech guy says it will be released at the end of the month. Guess what, at the end of month they will say that it will be released in mid May.
Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
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The 16th was on a schedule that was leaked a moth or so ago.
But it should never have been believed anyway.
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mainly because of... where did that "leak" come from? i mean it is as easy as this:
leaked from HTC Customer Care:
Release Date of HTC Hero Android 2.1 Upgrade: 17. April 2010
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see? it is not gonna happen tomorrow because i claim it. as long as it isn't a *ruu*.exe file i don't believe anything anymore...
edit: lol, now wait for the five threads that will be created quoting the above
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luvgirl12345 said:
Hey guys yo no wat?? 2.1 update iz supozed to be relesed tomorow!!! OMFG im so hapy xD...
lol that was fun.
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Nice misleading thread title bro.
I wonder if I'm the only one getting sick and tired of reading these threads about official 2.1...
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Hi Where is the hero 2.1 upgrade for me to download?? It’s the 16th of April the day the upgrade is scheduled for release. If it’s not released today then when? If this is so then I can’t believe this delay as its been promised again and again !!!!!
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I think you didn't put enough exclamation marks in your original enquiry for them to take you seriously. And if I were you, I'd sue that guy who promised you update on April 16th again and again. Uh wait. Nobody promised that. Nevermind then.
Imagine having to man the email response section at HTC for the Hero with all the plums emailing you asking every 10 mins when the 2.1 update will be out!
I wonder how high the internal window jumper rate is... or forced handset in throat related deaths in the HTC office..
I also emailed them and they said the android 2.1 updates will be coming out starting at the end of april including for your HTC hero
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Did you get the game rules now ? They want as to buy their new Incredible phone!
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
Then you have the fact that the newer handsets have better hardware and software, and all the ROM upgrades in the world won't change the hardware, so who in their right mind is going to choose an older phone knowing they'll have to mess about and upgrade it when they can just go get the shiny new model for free on another contract?
For all we (I) know, the delays could be due to more tweaks needed to make the ROM run at an acceptable level on handsets that have an inferior hardware spec than those that it was originally designed for.
the delays are mostly due because the htc servers couldnt possibly support all desire, hero and legend updates at the same time, thats why they are rolling ou the updates slowly, starting with the desire network providers, then the legend probably and finally the hero
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I don't buy that as it makes little sense. It would hardly increase sales figures for the new devices at all. Most cellphone owners are locked into a contract which means if they want to upgrade before it's renewal time they have two choices.....wait, or pay over the odds to do so.....almost everyone (except die hard early adopters who are an extremely small percentage of owners) chooses the first option.
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I know this is not true as I and many of my friends are not on contracts (actually can only think of 1 who is) and prefer to buy outright as to upgrade as we see fit, and change service provider too. But I do agree with your point, it would not be a way to increase sales, more likely just internal bureaucracy is the cause for the set back.
Seriously people, there's a little thing called patience. My mother always told me that good things come to those who wait.

[Q] Should I still consider this phone??

Okay, so I was going to pick up this phone for my wife at Best Buy for $1 on Saturday, but I guess I'm having second thoughts after reading these threads. It seems like everyone is unloading the Fassy. Are there still people out there that would suggest this phone (she is coming from an old Blackberry!). Thanks for your thoughts!
I still have the phone and I love it. It's fast, responsive, and I believe it has a bright future in terms of developments on gingerbread and beyond. That being said, it's worth considering your budget and whether it's worth it to get a newer phone (possibly on a 4G network, if that applies to where you live and the usage of the phone). For $1, though, any alternative phone options may have to be extraordinary.
what he said.
good day.
Right on! Thx for the reply....I'm still kickin it w/the OG Droid and am waiting for that right 4G device, but for her coming off a bb 8330, this will be light yrs ahead. I'm def gonna root and make it right....should be fun to mess with a new phone! Thx again!
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I bought mine for .01 on amazon in oct 2010. It has been a rollercoaster with development (meaning with the lack of source, NOT our developers.) For most of the people who have been here a long time, its a love hate relationship with this phone. Just know there are some developers here who have completely transformed our phones. Without these key people we would be where the continum is... wait... too early.
Buy it.
what he said.
good day.

ICS pushed back

looks like moto has pushed back ICS to Q4 for the Photon
http://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
I saw the tweet too. MAJOR disappointment, and it looks like I will be turning to Rooting for my ICS fix. (I was prepared to wait it out, but no longer.)
I was plannign to stay with this phone for another year or so, but...
HTC EVO 4G LTE here I come!!!!
geova87 said:
I was plannign to stay with this phone for another year or so, but...
HTC EVO 4G LTE here I come!!!!
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So funny!
that sucks! but not like it matters to me. how many ics roms do we already have that work almost perfect.
Moto Sucks !
ICS is likely a no-go now since next Android version will be out before the end of this year along with brand new devices. Since Sprint has only one Moto phone, who will really care about Photon !
Typical tactics by the vendors and carriers to keep their devices as close to the 18 months mark as possible. Apparently, carriers are expected to update the software within first 18 months of release only. By end of the Q4, it will be almost 18 months.
Funny that officially, the only Moto device that got ICE is the Xoom tablet ... and Google own Motorola !
Time to seriously think about Windows 8 Phone. It is also shaping up to be an interesting OS.
Thank you so much motorola for announcing this AFTER getting the 2.3.5 update, so not only are you not giving me ICS when you said, I can't get it myself either. I liked this phone, but this really pushed me over the edge. HTC or Samsung next.
Honestly it doesn't matter to much. At least now they are in development, so hopefully we can get a soak test. Then we can get the drivers we need.
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Are you kidding me? When I went to get a new phone this spring, getting ICS was a pr-requisite for any phone I looked at. If it doesn't end up with an ICS update, I'm gonna be pissed.
Dont know why anyone didnt see this coming. I said this would happen when they announced ICS and got flamed. Motorola doesnt give two ****s about its customers and they show it every day. Once I get rid of this piece of crap Photon, I will NEVER own another Motorola product.
I was excited to get this phone and its been a complete disappointment.
#screwyoumotorola
Well, that's the problem with Android, isn't it? That it's a complete train wreck. Microsoft and Apple are pissed at Google because Google is giving away their OS while they sell theirs, which allows OEMs to build monster Android phones (i.e. they put the OS cost toward better hardware).
It isn't in the OEMs' best interest to update their phones. Not at all. We are not Motorola's customers. US Cellular is. Sprint is. And the other carriers who buy Motorola phones (and tablets, perhaps). As Motorola's customer, Sprint (to use one) is not best served by last years' phones being updated to the next OS. No, Sprint makes more money if your next device has ICS. That results in a second sale for them. They already sell the phone to you at a serious loss, with a contract. So, why should they support the phone beyond the life of the contract? You buy a Gingerbread phone at a great price. They are hoping you will buy an ICS phone at a great price in two years.
To the carriers, Android smartphones are evolving too fast. Updates are coming out faster than they are comfortable with. They like the iPhone model better -- fewer than half a dozen devices, all the same basic hardware, easy update. Same with WP7/WP8 to come, so few devices. And of course higher costs = higher profits.
Meanwhile, the developers at XDA and the like help you extend your phone's life. I have ICS on my Electrify (Photon) and it's awesome. When I got it, everybody was saying it couldn't be unlocked. But somebody figured it out. Now I'm running CM9 (ICS) and it's given my phone a completely unnecessary kick in the pants. I didn't think there was much room for improvement (and maybe a CM7-based, Blur-free ROM would have been a good choice, as well) but it's really lit a fire under my phone's, eh, kickstand.
I understand that people want to jump to HTC or Samsung. I say go ahead. It's not in the best interests of either of those companies to get you ICS sooner than later, either. Motorola makes the best radio out of any of the three. If you want upgrades sooner, I think your absolute best bet is to get a Nexus straight from Google, but those may be GSM-only? Even if one is CDMA, I doubt US Cellular will activate it for me. So that will not work in my case, I don't think. I think the best thing for everybody is a place where developers can come together and work on custom ROMs for these phones and be thanked or even donated to by those who can... hmm... a place kind of like this one.
Can't say I'm shocked.
Lame!
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To postpone it in hopes that people buy the next photon or whatever, and hide behind how "difficult" it is to push this out, is one thing..
but to also come out with a 2.3.5 update that completely prevents people from customizing their phones and make due with some unofficial ics fun till the real thing comes, is a pretty shtty move.
Are they saying "Boo!" or "Booo-urns!"?
Doesn't surprise me one bit. How many devices other then the Nexus see more then 2 software updates? Maybe 1 or 2,if they're a flagship device and they break some sales record. Even if you buy a high end device there's no guarantee anymore you'll get any future updates regardless of what the companies behind it say.
Considering that 2 of the DROID devices got cut from the list I don't expect us to get the official update at all
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I was holding off on running an ICS ROM on my phone to wait for the official update.
This is why my next device will be my first iPhone. I already own a 3rd gen iPod Touch and I STILL get the latest updates for it straight from Apple. I love the fact that when Apple pushes out an update, it's not for just one device, but for all of them! They all come out on the same day so there is no waiting for "when's it gonna be my turn".
I really think Google needs to take a more proactive approach to the Android updates.
the problem is the carrier.
That being said, they probably have enough leverage in the marketplace to put mandates on carriers.
me too
Aquos1 said:
I was holding off on running an ICS ROM on my phone to wait for the official update.
This is why my next device will be my first iPhone. I already own a 3rd gen iPod Touch and I STILL get the latest updates for it straight from Apple. I love the fact that when Apple pushes out an update, it's not for just one device, but for all of them! They all come out on the same day so there is no waiting for "when's it gonna be my turn".
I really think Google needs to take a more proactive approach to the Android updates.
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I totally agree. I too was waiting for the ICS update before installing a custom ROM. Guess I have no more reason to wait.
However I would never want an "I" product.
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the problem is the carrier.
That being said, they probably have enough leverage in the marketplace to put mandates on carriers.
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So you think ICS is done and Sprint is holding things up? Yea, right.
MadFlava said:
So you think ICS is done and Sprint is holding things up? Yea, right.
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I was wrong saying carrier only. Its carrier/manufacturer.
Android ICS "code" is done. It would be an easy push if all devices were Nexus. The holdup is motorola adding their flavors like blur, and carriers with their requirements and bloatware.

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