I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
Would still buy it, love the design, and i have had it for over a month and been using it all the time .. It's the best mobile i ever bought!
Since a lot of android phones are coming out I would wait.
But if you are looking for a small and powerful device instead of a big smartphone then it's the right choice, in my opinion.
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
Aridon said:
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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Exactly.
I will be looking at the X3 when it is out, I was so keen on it I thought about waiting.
The hero is a great phone, bugs have been fixed and the Rom cookers are just getting going with it. Get the hero, enjoy it for a few months, suff it on ebay if you want a change and get something new in the spring- thats what I'm doing.
have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
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have it since it came out and the only thing i would change is the color, black or brown instead of white. nothing on the market beats it so yes, if i was buying now, i would buy Hero. HD2 brings great promises for future phones, but it's WinMo, so it's just a promise of Android to come with that hardware.
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Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
would buy it again. the hardware is very decent, performancewise, featurewise & haptic-wise (a.k.a. it performs well, has all the nice sensors you could need and the look&feel is great also). the software has already been modded extensivly, and since the kernel sources are out since last week the real good stuff is still to come... if you wait then you will have to wait until the new device is released, then till it is rooted, then till someone cooks a decent rom, then for the kernel sources, then for someone to actually use the kernelsources... if you're not into doing this as the first person in the world then get an "old" (as in 'a few months on the market') device.
and just get the fact, you will never be up-to-date in the it business...
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
Buy the phone, it's really nice and it's always developing cos of the apps. I am happy with my phoen had it 3 weeks now and it will last well.
Hero 2 will be a while yet and that will be worth getting if HTC improve on this one and not stay still.
Get it, you won't be regretting it.
I would definitely buy it again.
chopper45 said:
if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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Nooooooooooooooo!!!
Aridon said:
If you wait, you will always be waiting. The market moves so fast that there is almost a new device coming in 2-4 months that may or may not be better than what is out.
You can always Ebay it and buy another one if you want a newer phone.
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I totally agree.
I came from winmo on a HD and now I won't touch winmo, although if M$ ever get their arse into gear and bring out winmo7 I will take look but it would have to have some killer features to lure me away from android.
Put simply Android is awesome, took me a few days to get out of my corrupt winmo mentality and get used to Android. The Hero is real nice , personally I could do with a bigger screen but if you don't need a bigger screen get that Hero bought now!
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Why are you dissapointed with the white phone? Doesent it have some "extra" function that the brown and black doesent have? In my opinion it looks good..
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i'm not disappointed, i just think black and brown look a lot better. When i bought it i didn't have a choice, now there is. Also, i like the soft rubbery feel of the black one, teflon is nice but nothing really special. The soft black one is great.
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if you must go android, go hero.
if i had my time again, i'd go iphone...it's too 'early days' for android....
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iphone is good if you like apple choosing what apps you can and cannot have and at&t coverage is far from stelar...
not trying to start a war but those are a couple of the many reasons why i like my i wouldn't buy an iphone and bought the hero
Hi,
I agree with other posters, that if you wait, you'll always be waiting. The HTC Dragon looks like it may be interesting but by the time it's in your hand there'll be a 1.5Mhz phone out.
After years with UIQ and WinMo, the Hero is the best phone I've had. Sure the screen is smaller than on the HD but it's a proper, capacitive touch screen. Also no stylus.
Also the Hero feels more "connected". Even with the power and functionality of the HD, I never felt truly mobile with it. With the Hero I feel much more able to update my blog, my facebook, twitter etc. This may be due to the lack of a stylus but it also seems far quicker connected to t'internet.
Just my half shilling.
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rdgut said:
I'm currently pondering buying a HTC Hero.
My question is though:
Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
I'm currently torn between buying an Hero or waiting, I've read a bit about the HTC Dragon/Zoom 2 because it has a higher resolution, but the current specs state it has a 4.2 inch screen.
Which is way too large for me.
So, any current HTC Hero owners care to state their personal opinion on the matter?
Thanks
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I buy my Hero, 2 weeks after it was released. I'm still new with android, ut i like'it i love'it. Usualy i get verry fast boored by a phone, i must say that i have'it for 3 months allready and it will last long for sure. In the place where i work i got wi fi, and i make a chalenge with my husband( He has a blackstone) wich one is faster. . I won!( Then our colegs start to cal us the htc family ) Besides allways u got something on the market for your phone, and think about, is an open source for development . So go for it!Just do it!
Go on buy it!!!
I would buy it again and again...
I was going to wait to see what is going to be coming out soon... but then I thought... why? If something new comes out - it's only a matter of time (usually 2-3 months) before something newer will be released.
You can't get better than the Hero right now. I've had HTC phones for a few years now and they have all been good.
Android is awesome!
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Would you still buy it right now or would you wait for the next android phone HTC is releasing (in the coming 2-3 months).
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I had a very good working HTC Kaiser with WM6.1. I used the ported Android which ran slow. But the experience I had with the ported Android, made me decide to buy the Hero.
You are Dutch, as I am, so why don't you have a look at Marktplaats? I bought mine there, too. Just ask them for their receipt they received when they bought it.
When you want more info, send me a private message.
as for a question: would I buy it again... YES.
as for a question: is it too early for android... YES
To be honest, I love it. WM is crap and we all know it. And for some people who don't want an I-phone, this is an alternative.
I have some weird principles... I haven't bought Nokia since 1994 - i know everybody had one, but I loved my Ericsson, i have never bought a BMW - I know it handles great and sometimes when I want to have some fun I borrow one from my friends, but generally i don't like it, I drive Audi, I will never buy a shirt that says D&G in your chest because it's just plain stupid, I prefer my clothes to be quality products but not to show off to everybody... and then again I have an I-pod because there is just no alternative...
And when it comes to phones I like to try something else than I-phone and Hero is the one to try... Gadget of the Year by "T3", Gadget of the Year by "Stuff"... I think we have a good phone in our hands.
And the fact that it is too early for Android... yes it is, but is it not wonderful to be a part of an evolution??? I think it is just amazing.
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Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
it's really all verizon's fault, they NEVER promoted the eris, and if you went in there wanting to buy one they would push the droid on you like no tomorrow.
hopefully this doesnt stop them from releasing the 2.1 OTA update to the general public, it will really help development along for us. Someday, when my eris dies I will upgrade (damn that incredible looks so good...) but until that day, I dont regret a single thing about it. except for installing leak, good thing a got a replacement though
It always seemed to me like the Eris has been advertised as Verizon's cheaper (even free for a lot of us) alternative to the Droid, and it did it's job well.
With the Incredible and Nexus One and all of the other phones (probably) coming out soon I'd expect the Droid to take the Eris' place in the lineup, like a "Buy a new HTC Incredible and get a Motorola Droid FREE" kind of deal.
ah.... oh well...
Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
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Looks like I will be upgrading soon... and paying the full price too lol, since I JUST started my contract on November 2009... oh well technology comes and goes.. and I'll have a new testing device!
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
The Long and The Short of it...
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Droid Eris November 6, 2009 - May, 2010
That seems a bit short. I'm still happy with my purchase and hope this doesn't stop HTC from supporting it later on (I know it won't be soon) and that the devs may lose interest... Oh well. Maybe i'll scrap some cash together and just grab a desire when it comes out... who knows.
**Sorry for the poor title. I didn't catch it til it was too late.**
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We all know technology changes daily be it hardware or software or whatever...
Cell phones, pda's ect are particularly susceptible as they are market driven and manufacturers are always trying to come out with the "Next Big Thing".
Hell the moto droid is now available on several websites for 20 bucks on a new 2 year...Letstalk.com etc...
Being a former 8 year blackberry user I can say this for Android at least theyre not just putting a new facade over a dated os\ui . So long as my eris doesnt melt down at the end of life date I'm good. Also so long as you're a VZW customer you'll get support for your device even if it is minimal.
I always felt the Eris was kind of an afterthought, the way they marketed it.
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Why would you upgrade that quick? The eris still has quite a few miles left in her. Early adopters can be very annoying sometimes. I have a friend (kind of) that buys a new macbook everytime there is a refresh. Drives me bat**** crazy to pay several hundred dollars more for something that does only a little more than the old one...
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It's just a thought for now... I haven't totally decided but I will wait and see what the HTC incredible or whatever VZW comes out with, has to offer... if its something like an amazingly fast phone I'll probably get it.. if not I will stay with the Eris.. I don't hate the Eris, I think it is one amazing phone
plus I'd still be on here [XDA] using the Eris for testing stuff, helping out as much as I can..
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
and what about in six more months after that and they double the specs on the incredible
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looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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exactly... I will see when i comes out what people are saying first.. and the eris is an amazing phone for the price. I really dont think you can beat the value.
After rocking an HTC Touch for 1.5 years, I bought a brand new Eris from someone and avoided a contract reset just a week ago. I think it's a great phone, and I have no regrets. I can upgrade anytime but I'm still on a very good Alltel contract so I want to hold out as long as I can before switching to a VZW plan. It does everything I need it to do.
Has anyone heard anything more about this? I'd like to know if it's actually going to happen or not. Although I'm sure if it is we'll find out soon.. I'd also like to know if they'd offer us an upgrade for free or at least half price. If they stop doing the phone completely I think they should at least offer us something. I'd love to upgrade to the Incredible if it was free or half price..
why would they give us a new phone simply because they've stopped selling it?
If you have to do a warranty replacement or anything like that, I'm sure there is a large multitude of backup units, and once those run out/they stop carrying those, verizon will simply replace it with a phone of equal value and hardware features like they always have done for discontinued phones.
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looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of the screen is 480x800... the eris' screen is 480 in LENGTH, that's pretty impressive. Will i get the incredible? if i had the money, which i dont, so i will stay with my eris for as long as I deem fit, because honestly, it's a damn good phone for what it's worth.
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
looking at the incredible's spec sheet though, it's really worth the upgrade, i mean... it literally DOUBLES most of the specs, the re resolution of t
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BUT WHY SENSE UI?
i want the incredible. i'm due for an upgrade. and i'm depressed because the nexus one is apparently not coming to verizon. but incredible without sense ui would be ahmazing
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Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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sms440 said:
Where did you hear that the nexus one isn't coming to verizon. It's been confirmed for verizon for a while now. There just isn't a release date. I suspect we'll hear about it next month at the google I/o conference as will as news about froyo.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/26/google-updates-nexus-one-page-tells-verizon-customers-to-get-a/
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I just read an article about the nexus one being scrapped. Thought you just another person complaining because they were impatient. I'll eat my words and apologize now.
yeah, the nexus one is pretty dead.
plagued by 3g problems, and low sales, the only thing to really look forward to in picking one up over another phone like the incredible is that it it's wireless N chipset miiiiiiiiiiight (big might) get support soon.
honestly, for the price you'd be better off getting an incredible and waiting for root to get vanilla-android.
and man, why do people hate sense ui so much? the only ONLY problem it has is how laggy it can get. and on the eris? honestly, I expected it when I bought it looking at the specs. but upgrading to 2.1 got rid of ALL the lag for me. I love the look and extra screens of sense.
and jebus... the incredible is rocking DOUBLE the cpu and ram hardware, using nearly the same rosie build as the eris. it will be faster then us on 2.1 out of the freaking box, and with root... you'll be blazing through apps like crazy.
Hello everyone =)
I was just looking for some input from the phone community.
I am thinking about upgrading my phone since my 2yrs is up and I figured why not sell my HD2 to pay the cost?
This is my 3rd HD2 so i cant even get a new one through Asurion smh. I have had this one for two months. I have all the accessories, box, etc. And it has no scratches, cracks, etc. It also has a custom ROM (which i'd probably revert back to TMO before selling).
How much is too much for a used phone?
I was thinking $200. Is that too much or too little?
if you have the box and all you can get 300+ online but if its just the phone you could get 250 atleast. I'm selling mine as well because i just upgraded to a G2.
How do you like the G2? I think i'll try the HD7...
I have the box, charger, headphones, paper booklets, phone glove and all.
I most likely won't sell it online though probably locally. I just want to put out a good asking price on it b/c since technology advances so fast and new phones coming out all the time its always something better.
Also, does the software make a diff. in price? Should I consider that also?
You have all the necessary belongings so it will sale for a good price. Locally would be okay but you may often deal with people trying to get it for a cheaper price. I dont know how much your looking for but i would atleast look for $250-$275. you can try Craigslist but people will try to talk you down on the price. Ill have my G2 on wed, i tried out the Hd7 and the G2 in stores and i went with the G2, the Hd7 looks real nice though but i wanted a keyboard again. Software makes somewhat of a difference, i put Android on mine and the latest rom.
OH ok...I haven't tried playing with adding android on mines yet...I'm sure I'd def. be able to get a good amount for it if that were on there...
I haven't even thought about CL. I know for sure when I get a price i'm sticking to it even though my upgrade will only cost me about $175
if your upgrade price is $175, $200-$225 should be good since your not looking for much.
True. since i invested so much in this phone (300+130+130) i'd def. like to get what its worth in general. esp since its in new condition.
Thank you much for your responses =)
your welcome. let me know how you like the HD7.
No problem sure will =)
I welcome all other opinions as well
Maybe it's just me but I think 200 USD is too low for a good and versatile phone like HD2. Yes, there will always be better phone with better technology in the future but that doesn't devalue the HD2. People seem to think their phone has less value once there're new phones in the market that they release their phone for a very cheap price in order to get "some" money for the new one. In my opinion, the HD2 will still remain the best Winmo 6.5(.x) phone of all time (because there won't be any new WinMo6.5 phones released LOL). So unless you really need money to cover for your upgrade I'd suggest you keep it...
And yes I won't sell my beloved HD2 even if one day I decide to buy another OS phone. It will be with me until it dies on me
you actually have a valid point because when something happens to my phones i hate being reduced to a loner phone smh. i had that issue when i upgraded and sold my G1 to upgrade to hd2 only to have it out of stock when i needed a replacement
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why dont we all go over and vote for the hd2 as the best phone for 2010 if it wins it will be the second year it wins. it started off in a slow start because the op added it a day after the poll began but with your help we can bring it to first.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=860549
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Any opinion on the topic though???
But i'll go vote =)
What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
parson33 said:
What do you like or not like about your G-Tablet?
For 299.99 shipped I couldn't pass it up.
Did I get a good deal? Should I have picked a different tablet?
Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
Asus got its own perks... and besides viewing angles this tablet is doing what I need. I see no other issues unless you have to have HC OS.
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You should have spent another $100 and bought an asus. There are multiple issues that don't exist in the asus and are well worth $100
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How does this help him? Buy an Asus, ipad, xoom or whatever the flavor of the week is?
The dev community and the price tag make the g tablet a win. If you were forced to run stock that's a different story.
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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Don't forget to mention that the touchscreen itself is a pain - hardly multi-touch at all.....
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He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
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If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
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Where shall I start.....
Hardware accelleration is hacked at best.
Quality control is less than stellar
Viewing angles are horrid
You have about 50% chance of soft bricking your device whether you customize it or not
You have about 5% chance of hard bricking it doing the exact same thing everyone else does and they have no issue
This product is most definitely at the end of its life
The newer tablets work with the market out of the box
The newer tablet have hardware acceleration
The newer tablets have better screens
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
He asked for opinions. IMO spending $100 for way better viewing angles, newer software, support from a proven laptop/netbook manufacturer, google market out of the box, and official support from app devs as these tabs are authorized to have the market.
BTW.....most of the top devs are either moving to the asus or something like it. As well as all the top devs who haven't jumped into the tab market yet are gettting the asus or something like it. If you want to follow the dev community then buy what they are buying not what they are putting down
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All nice...but...none of this is what the OP asked. He/She wanted to know was this a good purchase at a good price. I'm sure he/she saw other tablets on the market and shopped within budget. There's always a step up you can spring for, show me a better tablet at or under $300.00 and I'll recant.
Should I buy the BMW, why not the Mercedes.
I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
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Is there anything beside viewing angles that I should have to learn to put up with?
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I believe my response answered the OP
schettj said:
If you bought this tablet to screw around with, it's teh awesome.
All tablets are obsolete about 5 months after they're announced, let alone shipped. That doesn't make any of them any less useful. Android support from the manufactures is currently the thing that is most horrible compared to that other tablet OS - where you get an update, and - well - all of the devices are updated. Android updates? Yeah... up to each manufacturer. Good luck with your 3 - 6 month old tablet, the new OS will be on the next tablet. Welcome to Android, it's Open! And Free! Yay!
You made a bad choice if you think you did. If you're happy with your choice, you made a great choice.
If you have doubts or regrets already, and you can still return it, DO IT. Get something else. Maybe even a different OS.
I'm quite happy with mine, and I've had it nearly two weeks I'm learning a lot, and the price was right. Personally, for $400, I'd still NOT have an android tablet, but that's just me.
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Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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I agree with schettj 100% btw....he just asked for opinions
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Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
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Well said, the technology is moving so fast all of these things are becoming obselete .
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There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
The newer tablet have support from the manufacturer
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is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
Quality is everything to me, my Xoom does everything I need and it's stable, plus it will most likely get regular updates to issues and featurees. Still, it looks like a great tablet compared the Galaxy Tab.
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There is a difference here that I don't think is recognized.
What thebadfrog says above:
is a huge deal IMHO. I don't recommend anyone buy a Samsung phone because their support sucks (even Google Android devs can't stand them and hate working with them). While their hardware is great.
HTC is the best smartphone maker out there - hands down. The continued support they provide the community and their phones is second to none. Look at how many of their old phones are still getting updates? My Evo is almost a year old and is about to get Gingerbread direct from HTC (even though CM7 is out for it).
So that's another thing to look at. You don't want to drop $300 every 6 months in order to maintain support - you want to find a device made by a manufacturer that has a proven support track record - and Asus is one, Acer is another. Viewsonic is not. We're in an age where, while there is new stuff coming out daily, the existing hardware is still viable due to the community and the manufacturer support (when you pick the right one).
I think it's often overlooked.
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That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
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Yeah I probably need to dial it back a bit, it's all good.
As a side, where the hell can you get an Asus these days (I tried ).
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Mine is on back order hopefully to be delivered next week.
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Well that's good news. Enjoy, they're pretty much gone and many stores stopped accepting back orders.
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That's a good point and the reason I chucked my Captivate in favor of the HTC Inspire. I admit that I didn't realize how bad Viewsonic's support was going in, with that said, I still think this is the best choice at or under $300.00 Now if the OP wants to fork up the extra cash I say go for it, I looked for the Asus myself and may infact purchase one whenever they become available.
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I didn't seriously consider any tablet when they were 400 dollars or over. I would buy an Asus down the line (when it is close to obsolete) when it hits 299.99 or lower.
However I was not aware Viewsonic did not support the G-Tablet very well. Is support in this forum from developers going to dry up in the next year? If I could get year out of this tablet I would be happy. Obviously I hoping for Gingerbread. Or Honeycomb rather? I am a newbie. (can't you tell?)
Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
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Its hard to say what support is going to look like, but the older this item gets the more development its likely to lose, its the natural order of things.
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There are different factors too.... Look at the Nexus One. Still getting updates (albeit it's Google's), but TMobile is still pushing updates for the myTouch.... The Evo is 1yr old. Others are older and still getting development from the community at-large. A company's willingness to be open to the community contributes as well....
I'm currently in the market for a new Android phone, as my current Blackberry Bold is about to die. Would you recommend the Galaxy S2? There's a few different phones out there (HTC Sensation for example), and the Google Nexus Prime at end of year. What do you guys recommend?
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I'm currently in the market for a new Android phone, as my current Blackberry Bold is about to die. Would you recommend the Galaxy S2? There's a few different phones out there (HTC Sensation for example), and the Google Nexus Prime at end of year. What do you guys recommend?
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Well, you're gonna get a heavily biased answer, asking in the SGS2 forum, but I suspect you already know that. Sounds to me like you just want some reassurance, more than anything else
Get the SGS2 as soon as you can. You will love it!
I've heard of some issues with the SGS, a phone that I was planning to buy last year but had to spend my savings on a new laptop that died instead, so I wanted to make sure that the SGS2 is performing better than the SGS, and that no major problems have been reported (such as the GPS or similar). I've been unable to find any issues with the SGS2, thus why I'm asking if they'd recommend it .
Thanks for your input!
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I've heard of some issues with the SGS, a phone that I was planning to buy last year but had to spend my savings on a new laptop that died instead, so I wanted to make sure that the SGS2 is performing better than the SGS, and that no major problems have been reported (such as the GPS or similar). I've been unable to find any issues with the SGS2, thus why I'm asking if they'd recommend it .
Thanks for your input!
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You'll obviously see people with issues on here, as this is a hub for people asking for help with issues. But you'll also find lots of people with no problems at all, like me. It's the fastest, smoothest Android experience I've ever had, and I really do recommend it.
I get a day of regular use out of the battery, or 2 days of minimal use (when it's basically just a phone). GPS and Wifi work perfectly for me, and I don't see any yellow tint on my screen.
Personally, I think it's one of the fastest selling pieces of tech ever made for a very good reason.
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You'll obviously see people with issues on here, as this is a hub for people asking for help with issues. But you'll also find lots of people with no problems at all, like me. It's the fastest, smoothest Android experience I've ever had, and I really do recommend it.
I get a day of regular use out of the battery, or 2 days of minimal use (when it's basically just a phone). GPS and Wifi work perfectly for me, and I don't see any yellow tint on my screen.
Personally, I think it's one of the fastest selling pieces of tech ever made for a very good reason.
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Thanks for your input! I realize the XDA forums is a place to go for issues, I see a lot of relatively little issues, not like, "THIS PHONE IS JUNK". I'm glad to hear that everything seems to be going so smoothly. I'm anxious to move to the Android Platform and get started in dev work (coming from a HTC Touch Pro (winmo, my friend conned me into it) and then a Blackberry Bold 9000 (a handmedown from my girlfriend after my touch pro died).)
Now I just gotta figure out if I want to be in a contract or not .
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Thanks for your input! I realize the XDA forums is a place to go for issues, I see a lot of relatively little issues, not like, "THIS PHONE IS JUNK". I'm glad to hear that everything seems to be going so smoothly. I'm anxious to move to the Android Platform and get started in dev work (coming from a HTC Touch Pro (winmo, my friend conned me into it) and then a Blackberry Bold 9000 (a handmedown from my girlfriend after my touch pro died).)
Now I just gotta figure out if I want to be in a contract or not .
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I had a Touch Diamond, a Touch HD and then a HD2, and being a Windows developer I thought it was great being able to port my current skills with very little effort. I am now started down the route of app development for Android though. If you've done any java then it'll be a breeze, and if you've done any C# then it's almost as easy. If you've done .Net then you'll get it as well. Android is definitely gonna be around for quite some time. Unfortunately the same can't be said for my old friend Windows Mobile.
Ah well
Its highly recommended by me, no question asked. Even it should be recommended in htc Sensation forum too
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You'll obviously see people with issues on here, as this is a hub for people asking for help with issues. But you'll also find lots of people with no problems at all, like me. It's the fastest, smoothest Android experience I've ever had, and I really do recommend it.
I get a day of regular use out of the battery, or 2 days of minimal use (when it's basically just a phone). GPS and Wifi work perfectly for me, and I don't see any yellow tint on my screen.
Personally, I think it's one of the fastest selling pieces of tech ever made for a very good reason.
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ditto......
If you clearly understand what you want out of the phone, you will not have a hard time deciding which phone you want to buy.
For me, the hardware spec of this phone fits almost all of my requirements, plus an active community in this forum, I can decide easily. And I'm very happy with this phone.
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Finally got fed up with this dog-turd of a phone, and ordered a Nokia Lumia 822 as a replacement.
I have been with Android since flashing Donut onto my HTC Vogue, and while it was fun at first, I'm at a point now I just want my phone to work, with no need to constantly flash ROMs to get things to work well. I'm also tired of the constant lags/freezes that seem to still plague Android phones, so I've decided to take the plunge and move to a WP8 phone.
Anyway, the reason I'm writing this post is to see if anyone here has any interest in my documenting my experiences making the switch. If you want me to post here, let me know. If not, well, let me know that too. :silly:
Mike
Yes. I jumped to an iphone 4s after the dx2. Yes.
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Yes. I jumped to an iphone 4s after the dx2. Yes.
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Juice... I responded to the op. Why don't you do the same?
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Juice... I responded to the op. Why don't you do the same?
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You know people are allowed to discuss things in threads, and not ONLY reply to the OP, right?
@OP: I don't think I could ever go from an Android phone to a Win8 phone. It's just not the same. Plus, I'm pretty sure I'd lose a lot of apps... Though, I am looking for a cheap ICS/JB replacement for my X2, anyone have a suggestion there? Looking at the Droid Bionic, but even that is fairly expensive...
You picked a bad time to switch. Android up until ICS has been pretty crappy. I came from webOS and when I was using that, I thought Android was clunky and a little ugly. This is when Gingerbread was the newest version. I made the switch because webOS was going nowhere and there was no way in hell I was switching to an iPhone. Since the Droid X2 was my first Android phone, I came into android with a not so perfect experience thanks to Motorola and their locked down ways. I used ICS and JB when they were released on the DX2 but we all know they werent perfect. I was lucky enough to be given a Galaxy Nexus and since then, my thoughts on Android have gotten a lot better. You dont know what you are missing until you use a phone thats able to fully run the latest version of Android. Lag is pretty much gone. Everything works as it should. And Android is just getting better with every update. You say you have been using Android since the old Android days. Thats why I say you picked a bad time to switch because those were the crappy android days.
As far as Windows Phone, I have nothing against it. It looks great. My girlfriend is actually making the switch from Android to WP8 this month too. Shes not as much of a customizer as I am when it comes to phones so I think she will be happy with it. Also, it will give me a chance to check it out for myself. Not that I will ever switch. I'm sticking with Android and looking forward to their next unveiling in the next couple months.
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You picked a bad time to switch. Android up until ICS has been pretty crappy. I came from webOS and when I was using that, I thought Android was clunky and a little ugly. This is when Gingerbread was the newest version. I made the switch because webOS was going nowhere and there was no way in hell I was switching to an iPhone. Since the Droid X2 was my first Android phone, I came into android with a not so perfect experience thanks to Motorola and their locked down ways. I used ICS and JB when they were released on the DX2 but we all know they werent perfect. I was lucky enough to be given a Galaxy Nexus and since then, my thoughts on Android have gotten a lot better. You dont know what you are missing until you use a phone thats able to fully run the latest version of Android. Lag is pretty much gone. Everything works as it should. And Android is just getting better with every update. You say you have been using Android since the old Android days. Thats why I say you picked a bad time to switch because those were the crappy android days.
As far as Windows Phone, I have nothing against it. It looks great. My girlfriend is actually making the switch from Android to WP8 this month too. Shes not as much of a customizer as I am when it comes to phones so I think she will be happy with it. Also, it will give me a chance to check it out for myself. Not that I will ever switch. I'm sticking with Android and looking forward to their next unveiling in the next couple months.
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I appreciate what you are saying here, and I agree that then new phones are better in this regard than before. However the only phones that even remotely come close to the speed of the WP8 phones are the flagship phones, which are at least $200 on contract or $650 off. No thanks.
And hey, maybe I'll like the new phone, maybe not. The only way to know is to try, so I'm going to give it a try. I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to switch, just thought my experience may provide value to others.
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I appreciate what you are saying here, and I agree that then new phones are better in this regard than before. However the only phones that even remotely come close to the speed of the WP8 phones are the flagship phones, which are at least $200 on contract or $650 off. No thanks.
And hey, maybe I'll like the new phone, maybe not. The only way to know is to try, so I'm going to give it a try. I'm certainly not trying to convince anyone to switch, just thought my experience may provide value to others.
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For sure. I'm sure everyone here appreciates you sharing your experience. I'll be curious to know what you think of WP8 when you finally get it.
OP, to be honest, i felt the same way after dealing with the x2. after all we had gone through, i was just fed up. i wanted a phone that would just... work. My opinion has changed completely since i switched. after the x2, i got a rezound. it too was plagued with similar issues, and dealing with the lack of support and bad battery i nearly bought an iphone.since i got a RAZR M, my opinion has nearly 180'd. with the snapdragon s4, all my issues with android had literally melted away. with jellybeans smooth butteryness, the improved battery life, and overall impressive features, i will never leave android. even on stock, i rarely ever have horrendous battery or any stuttering whatsoever. had i been in your shoes, i definately would have held out for the SGS4, with the snapdragon 600, battery and smoothness with only go up. now, everyone has their opinions, but it seems your opinion was a little to vague and blunt in judging android as a whole. <-- thats my opinion, if anyone is interested.
My 822 got here last night, I haven't had a chance to do too much to it yet, but I'll give you my first impressions:
1. Build - Polycarbonate body is fine except for the back cover, which feels like it is going to break when you pull it off. One thing you have to give Motorola is that their phones are built like tanks, with aluminum bodies.
2. Screen - Screen is an AMOLED screen. Decided I'm not a fan. Has very nice contrast, but the oranges/browns/red look butt-awful. The 840x480 screen is a actually a benefit for me, at least, because it causes the fonts to be rendered larger than they would be on the X2, and are easier on my eyes. Plus less pixels to push means better speed from the phone.
3. Speed - Whoo boy, does this thing FLY!
That's all I will report on for now, I need some time to customize/configure the device before I come to any conclusions regarding the usability of the OS and/or app issues.
For anyone interested in differences in a few apps comparing Android, iOS and WP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmERIowNKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Ok, so Ive had the new phone for a little over a week now, which I beilieve takes me past the "honeymoon" period, and here are my thoughts:
The metro interface is really starting to grow on me. When I first saw the live tiles I thought "Uggh!! that's just nasty". But they look much nicer on the phone than they do on a picture on the internet. Probably due to the high contrast AMOLED display.
I still dislike the nasty oranges/browns on the device, but I've mostly stopped noticing it now.
The device feels smaller than the X2, even though it has ostensibly the same size screen as the X2. In fact, I would probably prefer a slightly larger size to get a larger screen area.
The device is slick, and has fallen out of my hand a couple of times. Almost fell into the crapper once! Definitely getting a case for this.
The screen resolution differences are a non-issue IMHO.
The camera quality is about the same as the X2, maybe a little better. MUCH faster to start, though, no longer missing the moment waiting for the camera to start.
Speaking of the camera, holy hell is Cinemagraph a cool feature. It takes a picture along with 5 seconds of video, allowing you to create a moving snapshot effect, similar to the NFL player intros on TV or the moving pictures from the Harry Potter movies.
There has been some extra work getting things setup, as I still want to retain my google accounts, but once done it is seemless enough.
In terms of speed and usability this phone blows away any Android device I've ever used, (including my Nexus 7). There is simply no comparison in this department.
Nokia Maps and Drive are not quite as nice as the Google maps and Navigator, but still very good. Not really missing anything here.
As far as apps that I miss, there really isn't much. iHeartradio is probably the big one, and they have a WP7 app so a WP8 on is expected to be coming shortly. Nokia Music fills in for iHeartRadio for now. There are a few other apps missing, but IE10 does such a nice job with mobile websites that it's just not a big deal.
I am fast becoming a fan of Nokia. Their custom apps are fantastic, and they have shown a real commitment to improving WP8 along. Whereas with Motorola phones you get an outdated, buggy OS, bloatware, and few updates, Nokia apps are superb and they are continually adding cool new features to their phones. Motorola still probably has the edge in build quality, especially with the aluminum bodies. I want my phones to last a few years, so build quality does matter to me.
There are a few things that I would like to see added, like separate volume controls, the ability to pin individual settings to the start menu, and a webkit browser, but these are relatively minor issues.
The apps are definitely fewer than what is available on Android. But the quality of the apps is significantly better as well. They are almost universally more polished and beautiful than their Android counterparts.
Overall I am loving this phone. Especially since I got it in new condition for under $200 bucks.
As I was reading Engadget yesterday I saw a couple of articles, one on the Broid Bionic finally getting upgraded to Jelly Bean, and the other one on how the HTC One bootloader is going to be locked for AT&T, I realized just how much crap one has to deal with on an Android phone. I will NOT miss any of this.
For those who contributed to the development on the X2, my sincerest thanks. You helped make a crap phone more bearable.
I may peruse the X2 forums from time to time for nostalgia's sake, but otherwise I think I won't be coming here much more. Best of luck to all of you, and hopefully DZK can get you a nice bug-free Jelly Bean build some day.
Mike
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Thank you for the review. I chose the dx2 for the lack of a call termination beep. As in other Moto's at the time. And these beeps are always passed to a Bluetooth headset. My iphone 4s does the same damn thing.
What about the Nokia?
I just tried this, when the caller hangs up you get a triple beep. I don't know about over bluetooth, though.
I actually like this feature.
I use the Plantronics Voyager Pro HD and it is very loud because the dynamic range not compressed and this tone is much louder than the voices.
I also notice that the tone is much louder ( iphone ) when it is a Vzw phone terminating on the other end- strange.
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I just tried this, when the caller hangs up you get a triple beep. I don't know about over bluetooth, though.
I actually like this feature.
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Are you still with this 822?
I tried it out. I really liked it at first but but WP8 is not ready for "prime time" Now this is truly "dog turd" OS . You cannot even cut & paste between apps!! Need I say more.
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Are you still with this 822?
I tried it out. I really liked it at first but but WP8 is not ready for "prime time" Now this is truly "dog turd" OS . You cannot even cut & paste between apps!! Need I say more.
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/copy-and-paste
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp7/basics/copy-and-paste
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Are you saying that it has been fixed? What about pasting to the dialer?
No matter I went to the Razr m.
Do you have a wp8?
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Are you saying that it has been fixed? What about pasting to the dialer?
No matter I went to the Razr m.
Do you have a wp8?
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Oh, I dont know. I just searched it. But apparently its there. I couldnt imagine a phone that cant do that these days. I dont have a WP8 phone but my girlfriend does.