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This is an email that I just received for those of you who are eager to find out what opera mobile beta is like
Cheers.
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Hi,
Here's your sneak peek. By accessing the link below and agreeing to our embargo, you'll get the chance to play with Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1. We'll make the beta publicly available on Thursday at 10:00a.m. CET.
Everything you need to know about the beta is included in the Reviewer's guide. Just hit the link below.
One thing to keep in mind, though: We're still polishing the final beta 1 build, so please note that there may be bugs - some potentially significant - in the the version you try today.
To download and install Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 1:
http://www.opera.com/press/reviews/mobile/
If you have any questions, please shoot them our way.
U.S. Pacific timezone:
Thomas Ford
[email protected]
+1 310 739 6555
Central European timezone:
Tor Odland
[email protected]
+47 2416 4242
Best,
Thomas Ford
Edit: Go to post 13 for the official beta
It uses IE favourites!!
What a wonderful change. No longer the need to maintain two separate sets of bookmarks now.
yeah i was playing with it overnight. hope they sort the rotation and keyboard bugs soon,
Im currently using the latest build of iris browser, its a bit slower over gprs but faster and renders better over wifi
I just test it in my HTC Touch using Wifi and it's great. The doble click to zoom, the iPhone like scrolling, accesing real web pages not pda-prepared ones, the auto full screen... all the features are great. And the interface and the settings.
What a great product! I can't wait till arrive home to test it in my X7500.
Well done OPERA - (insert lot of clapping here)
Rubbish
It is rubbish. Like last few versions after 1184 build. They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software. And on top of that they did not notice that there are such devices like Athena and Dimond with VGA screen best used in landscape.
Maybe for poore Touch users (nothing personal) it is good, but not for us. I have written about it already while build 14xx was released, but they obviously do not read our comments.
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
I am back with 1184 build.
I almost never use my device landscape mode. In that mode, I feel the screen is too wide and too low. As a result, my keyboard covers a big percentage of the screen, many programs shows too few lines (for example, too few items in the Contact application, too few files in file explorer, too few items in registry editors) with too much blank space on the right side of the screen.
So I have noticed the problems that you might have encountered.
I find the beta1 to be more instant and fast in making the data connection.
I make the normal changes to minimum overview zoom (70% this time), and display in large font. For some web pages, have to use smaller fonts. Also make the change to the limit paragraph width option so that the paragraph does but occupy only a small portion of the screen at the left hand side.
Tadeusz said:
They seem to belong to those porogramers who believe that they know better then the user, how he should use the software.
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What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
To Opera builders: if I want to turn my screen to portrait, I have better tools to do it. I realy do not need Opera to do it for me.
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What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.
the best opera i tried too...if the screen dont rotate on portrait when exit, this wil be the best...thank you
White the speed of the browser seems faster and connection more reliable, there are some still issues.
I've decided to use the default MinimumOverview Zoom setting of 30% because only with this could I see web pages without having to scroll at the overview level. The only problem is that at that level, all the links are non-active (meaning I can't click the link to go to the related web pages).
Another problem that I find is that at the overview level, the paragrah texts occupy only the small space on the left, leveing most side of the screen blank. This problem could be solved if I blank out the "limit paragraph width" option in that at the overview level the paragraph width stretch and occupies the entire screen width. However, that result in having to scroll left and right at the zoomed-in level since the browser does not "reflow" the paragraph to fit within the screen width.
The beta seems to cause my keyborad to revert back to the standard keyboard quite often too.
Does anyone else experience the same issues as what I have just described?
Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
In a few hous time, the real public beta will be released. I'll re-test these and provide feedback to Opera based on that version. No point doing it on these two peak version as every few hours they have a new release.
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Anyway, I'm already testing a newer beta (build 1718) posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643
I have not received an email from opera mentioning this build, but have tried out the newer build anyway.
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This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.
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This is the official release. The other one was some kind of press preview.
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1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then? Or.. are you from Opera organization itself?
Anyway, I noticed that 1718 does fix an issue I noticed in the first peak beta. In the peak beta, if I type in "Opera:" into the address, I expect to see everything that starts with that including "Opera:config" to be displayed immediately. It does not happen, but 1718 fixes that.
edit: you're right. This appears to be the official beta release. The link to opera's download site is here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab
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1718 is already the official release? Are you sure? You seems to have insider information then?
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Yeah, insider information, that's me
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Yeah, insider information, that's me
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I see. Missed that one as I thought they would send me an email again for this one but they did'nt.
Thanks.
Edit: Wait, the link that you provided is for build 1706, which is not the official beta build I thought.
For those wanting build 1718 direct from Opera, get it from here:
http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/951b1/opera_wm5_ppc_951b1.cab
This is exactly what I was looking for. Nice one opera !
I liked Opera but 2 things really irked me and made me stop using it.
1) It didn't use IE favorites
2) It would automatically open the soft keyboard whenever I went over a text box.
I hear they've fixed the first one, does anyone know if they fixed the second one?
Thanks.
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What do you mean by that? Nice vague nonsense there...
What are you talking about, and why are you acting like a baby over a beta (unfinished software)? Report it to Opera instead of posting it here where no one from Opera will read it. And even if they did read it, they would have no idea what you are talking about because you never actually explain what you are talking about.
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Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.
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Just read, if you can. And read some other posts of others as well as my posts concerning earlier versions of Opera. In particular read the post next after yours, if my is not clear to you.
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions. The build up to 1184 was not doing this and I am sure all the others would like to keep it that way.
By the way. We have a habit here. If any app is shown here, we try to test it and give a comment, what we like and what we do not like. We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders. Since 14xx build was released, this strange behavior was commented by various people here and now you are coming and saying that it is a baby comment. Nice comment of you, an insider.
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He is right after build 1184 the rotation occurs not only when you exit opera just doing anything else like txt msg it happens,and it's annoying! Tho i like this build i didnt downgrade like evreyone else thn the opera forums its been brought up as well as the sip kybd issue and the big notification shutoff bugs.Hopefully the next build/beta works better keep your fingers crossed.
Looks interesting, but the rotation to portrait drove me absolutely batty in under 2 minutes. You don't have have to close it, just minimize. What a freakin pain. No go, back to 8.65.
Tadeusz said:
If this does not help: If I want to turn my screen to portrait I would use some other tools. I do not want Opera to turn my screen to portrait each time I close Opera. Is it clear enough?
They introduced this feature in last few versions.
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
We are testing Opera for months already, if you did not noticed, and we comment each new build. We hoped that this could help Opera builders.
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What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.
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Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? What makes you think it's a feature? Ever heard about "bugs in beta versions"? You know, when the software doesn't do what it's intended to do?
Did you even consider that maybe, just maybe, it's just a bug?
What makes you think that anyone from Opera even reads this forum? They have their own forums for this kind of stuff.
Also, pointless whining like yours isn't going to help anyone.
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I do not care if Opera comes here and reads our posts or not. It is their problem. We here are helping developers by testing their products mostly in beta versions. I am not going to verify Opera builders intentions. I just found Opera beta or pre-beta version, and as always we do here, stareted to test and give report. My report about 14xx versions was that it suddenly started to turn the screen to prtrait. Me and others were reported that several times. In next versions, this bug (obviously a bug) was still there, so when they officialy released their beta, I gave report that it is still there (the bug). I, again do not care if they are goping to listen to that or not. This is thair problem, as I have said. Contrary, I do care if somebody comes here and offends me, only because I do what we are suposed to do here. This is a forum for developers and their testers, here. If software is shown here, we will test and give report. Sometimes in big words if the bug is repeated in several versions. If you do not like it then go to hel from this forum, and stop offend people here.
Got it?
This morning a friend called me and told me that mini 5 was released. He wanted me to update my Mini Cab. So here you go. This will install only the mini beta 5. Sorry really busy with school. I will update this post prolly tonight if i get a chance....... for now.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1170396#post1170396
again sorry, try to leave a feedback over there until I update this post.
I already have it installed and it's GREAT!!
It's fast, smooth and looks good.
You should really give this a try!
(BTW: I'm an Opera Mini fan for years)
There are Opera Mini 5 Beta threads opening op everywhere.
HERE you'll find another discussion about it on XDA....
edit: ontopic : nice CAB!
can anyone upload here this cab?.
I don't have account on ppcgeeks. ;-)
bug..not.com
Works fine. Browsing in tabs is nice.
@kubek1334 - No problem.
thank you ;-)
Awesome. I was like, man I cannot wait for an xda member to make a cab version.
boxer112,
Is ther anyway to .cab up Mini 5 Signed without Java as i use a specific version that have for many moons?
Thanks for this Boxer really appreciate it
Thanks for this.
Unfortunately the bundled JBED is still fuxored.
It will automatically switch to be the frontmost app, if you open or close your keyboard in TP2.
It does this to switch the orientation of JBED, but it doesn't switch back to the previous app.
This completely kills using this browser as a background app as you can't open your keyboard without JBED being a major nuisance.
Thanks for this! Works like a charm!
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Thanks for this.
Unfortunately the bundled JBED is still fuxored.
It will automatically switch to be the frontmost app, if you open or close your keyboard in TP2.
It does this to switch the orientation of JBED, but it doesn't switch back to the previous app.
This completely kills using this browser as a background app as you can't open your keyboard without JBED being a major nuisance.
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EXACTLY The same problem im having. So annoying, came here looking for a fix to this, because anytime I open up my keyboard to go into Landscape mode on my Touch Pro, and then try to switch back to portrait mode by closing up the keyboard, the screen turns white.
I'll continue to read and see if there's a fix out there for this, because this makes landscape unusable for me, and I like to switch back and forth at times.
Additionally, the keyboard sensitity is fuxored in opera mini 5 beta.
Try pressing 1 hw key to make 1 letter on your screen in mini 5 and you get anything from two to seven letters with one keypress.
Really annoying.
I say this beta by Opera is broken and it's even missing features, so it's technically really an alpha quality release.
Put these in your pipe and smoke em.. 2009 QVGA and VGA Java 20090217_51R2 with Opera Mini. All three versions 4.2, 5 Beta, and 5 Beta2
And I made them so they require little user input. Just click Opera Mini and boom installs and loads right to the accept page. Make sure to uninstall old version first to keep the remove programs clutter down and if you have someone elses Java versions etc.. remove those as well to avoid dead shortcuts.
2009 QVGA Java with Opera Mini 4.2
2009 QVGA Java with Opera Mini 5 Beta
2009 QVGA Java with Opera Mini 5 Beta2
2009 VGA Java with Opera Mini 4.2
2009 VGA Java with Opera Mini 5 Beta
2009 VGA Java with Opera Mini 5 Beta2
Enjoy,
Ryan Mogul
Thanks for this. Been using it for a couple of weeks. Any chance you'd be willing to do the same thing with opera mini beta 2 vga (released today)?
I updated my post above. The new versions are complete, read my post to check them out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4949198&postcount=15
Thanks Ryan!
Two questions:
1) Where (in which folder you place/install the installed opera -when installing on storage card-?!)
2) Can I install two versions side by side? So for example install 2009 VGA Java with Opera Mini 4.2 and 2009 VGA Java with Opera Mini 5 beta 2!? Because the opera symbol links always -only- to the last installed version...
This is an OLD Thread and for this reason decide to edit the topic and everything to be up to date.
New OPERA MINI 5 beta 2 is out, like a single cab and is native for WM devices.
All i can say for this...
ITS SUPERB FAST AND SMOOTH BROWSER i just love it.
For more info just visit www.opera.com
Check JZ SmartMort. Search for it at this forum.
Is there a signed version?
Yeah is there a signed version? Also, does it have a full download manager built in? And how is it better than Opera 10 beta?
http://www.opera.com/mini/next/
it says
Download manager
Manage downloads right from the browser. Pause and resume downloads to suit your needs.
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so I guess there is a download manager
Just ran some tests on it. Its as fast as opera mobile 4.2 so I can gladly ditch that browswer. Opera 10 beta 2 is no were near as fast as mini 5 b2. Not really happy with the direction that one is going.
I have done some searching but there is nothing right now as far as shortcuts or default browser cabs. Must be to soon, so if anyone find anything post it here or a link to the thread.
Signed Opera 5 Beta 2 you can find here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592551
tsalta said:
Signed Opera 5 Beta 2 you can find here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592551
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Thank you!! Exactly what I was looking for Now I gonna compare it to Mobile 10 beta 2... My guess is that mini is better as always... At least when running jbed...
awesome !!
Just create a cab... If someone want to test try it.
Is there a way to get this get a shortcut, and set it as default browser?
qitt said:
Just create a cab... If someone want to test try it.
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works great on my CDMA Diamond! Thanks!
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Is there a way to get this get a shortcut, and set it as default browser?
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owilsky already answered that up above.
At the moment JZ SmartMort needs to be updated for Mini 5 Beta 2, but the author said he'll probably have that ready tonight.
So what are the differences between 10 for mobile and 5 mini?
Opera 5 is very similar but lighter on ram, also it uses the proxy server only... Opera Mobile can render the pages locally on the device.
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Just create a cab... If someone want to test try it.
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Thank you just install the cab version everything is fine and working cool on my HTC Touch HD
Also this create auto shotcut to my Start Menu
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Thanks working fine for me
I have installed opera mini 4 and i want to use it after installing opera mini 5 via cab? is this possible? with other cab installers of opera mini 5 opera mini 4 is not listed in java any longer!
thx for help
Just tried, much improved from beta 1 especially on the scrolling.
However kinda sluggish on TP2 using JBED. OM4.2 is *much* faster, so I'll stick to OM4.2 for now till OM5 can catch up with the speed.
I wouldn't recommend using your own SIP rather than the default one in Mini.... it becomes unstable if you use a regular SIP. You will still get freezes and sometimes you cannot exit the text entry window. If you use the crappy one provided by Opera then it works fine.
My brother just got this phone, and he's loving it! We've got CM6 up and running. Is the default browser the best one? Or is there another browser he should look at? I ask specific to this device, and not to android in general, due to the relatively small screen size.
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My brother just got this phone, and he's loving it! We've got CM6 up and running. Is the default browser the best one? Or is there another browser he should look at? I ask specific to this device, and not to android in general, due to the relatively small screen size.
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I personally like Opera Mobile a lot, it works very well on my Mini and it has support for HTML5 videos, you should also get Skyfire for general flash video support.
I've found opera not to support multi-touch on my mini pro, dolphin mini or dolphin hd do though. +1 for skyfire
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hungarianhc said:
My brother just got this phone, and he's loving it! We've got CM6 up and running. Is the default browser the best one? Or is there another browser he should look at? I ask specific to this device, and not to android in general, due to the relatively small screen size.
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Skyfire 4 FTW, Dolphin Mini is not that bad either.
Skyfire is not compatible with X10 Mini Pro?
Skyfire is fully compatible, just using it. When you can't play videos on Skyfire4, uninstall it, download Skyfire 3, run Skyfire 3, uninstall Skyfire 3 and than install Skyfire 4 and you will get licence for watching videos
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Skyfire is fully compatible, just using it. When you can't play videos on Skyfire4, uninstall it, download Skyfire 3, run Skyfire 3, uninstall Skyfire 3 and than install Skyfire 4 and you will get licence for watching videos
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But don`t appears in market to download....
You will need to use the hacked market from the development forum as the market will not show skyfire due to our screen resolution, despite this skyfire runs beautifully.
You can download .apk file and install it manualy, just search for it.
i suggest you use skyfire too, works like a charm on the phone
Opera Mini 6 on my Xperia mini pro works great and supports dualtouch...
If you are on slow GPRS or EDGE connections than Opera Mini is the fastest among all the browsers that I have tried.
Miren browser comes close to opera mini in terms of performance on slow connections and has an option of clearing the cache and exiting so that the RAM memory can be reclaimed by the operating system.
So what exactly has to be done, to find Skyfire in the market?
I already tried "Market Enabler", but that one didn't do the job, and although I searched for it, I could not find the .apk to install it manually. I looked through the dev forum, but could not find a "hacked" market.
I am running MiniCM7-2.1.8 btw.
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So what exactly has to be done, to find Skyfire in the market?
I already tried "Market Enabler", but that one didn't do the job, and although I searched for it, I could not find the .apk to install it manually. I looked through the dev forum, but could not find a "hacked" market.
I am running MiniCM7-2.1.8 btw.
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look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049648&highlight=best+browser
there is an updater version skyfire 4.2 at page 3
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Opera Mini 6 on my Xperia mini pro works great and supports dualtouch...
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Works for me too!
I am using Dolphin Mini Browser now, as it seems to be the best option for such "low end" mobile.
From what I read Opera is closed source and the traffic is "optimized" using their proxy servers, which means they can track & analyze all your steps in the web, which is nothing I would trust (as if one isn't already sharing enough data in the net). But to be honest, I don't really know the situation concerning the Dolphin company as well, so both may be in the same ship?
I haven't used the browser on the mobile much by now, so I can not really tell if it is the best option, but it will have to do for now.
Can anybody recommend a good open source browser for Android? On my PC I only use Firefox and Midori, but unfortunately those are not an option on the phone.
you should try uc browser works perft on my psp go
and on my iphone 3gs so it should work fine on xperia
by the way , whats that market called blackmarket ??
Ok opera it is fast and nice looking. But many pages not showing good. Thay are smashed. I lot travell in my country with buses. And when i need to open the page with timetravel table it is all smashed, evan id i unchack text warp. Also page of my university had view proble, with opera.
Because of that i use mini boat. Simple lookung but works nice.
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Hi guys
Sorry to post another browser thread, but i searched and all i could find were threads full of people saying how bleedingly fast Opera Mobile is for them, so i had to post this.
I've been trying it out in comparison to the stock Android Browser (i'm using a Galaxy SII on 2.3.4). To test, i was loading up the full desktop version of the Engadget site, as it has lots of graphics and seems like a good test.
Well, the stock browser finished loading (i.e the little green bar) in about 20 or so seconds (didn't time it exactly as the difference between the two browsers is so massive). On Opera Mobile it loads for, and i'm not joking here, about 2 whole minutes! The site is readable long before then in fairness, but it should not be taking this long surely. I was using 3G for both tests so i cannot see why there is such a huge difference. I tried out a few other sites, and they too were much slower, so it wasn't a one-off.
The thing is i really like the Opera browser and would love to use it, but not with these kind of load times.
Can people share their experiences, and let me know if i'm not alone in this regard, or if i'm missing something?
Cheers guys.
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Hi guys
Sorry to post another browser thread, but i searched and all i could find were threads full of people saying how bleedingly fast Opera Mobile is for them, so i had to post this.
I've been trying it out in comparison to the stock Android Browser (i'm using a Galaxy SII on 2.3.4). To test, i was loading up the full desktop version of the Engadget site, as it has lots of graphics and seems like a good test.
Well, the stock browser finished loading (i.e the little green bar) in about 20 or so seconds (didn't time it exactly as the difference between the two browsers is so massive). On Opera Mobile it loads for, and i'm not joking here, about 2 whole minutes! The site is readable long before then in fairness, but it should not be taking this long surely. I was using 3G for both tests so i cannot see why there is such a huge difference. I tried out a few other sites, and they too were much slower, so it wasn't a one-off.
The thing is i really like the Opera browser and would love to use it, but not with these kind of load times.
Can people share their experiences, and let me know if i'm not alone in this regard, or if i'm missing something?
Cheers guys.
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you are not the only one..
me too facing this weird problem!
opera has so many features, but for now, I'll just use stock one !
thnx for sharing experience
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Opera Turbo usually introduces such 'infinite' loadings for me. Have you tried turning it off?
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I had a bunch of problems with Opera as well......Sticking with Dolphin for now as stock is not playing well with CM7
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Thanks for the replies guys. I turned off Turbo and it made a big difference I have to say. The jury's out though as to whether our not it's actually any faster.
Something else is bugging me now though
The font in Opera Mobile is just horrible. I've changed my system font in Display Settings to Helvetica S. With it webpages look so much nicer, but Opera mobile uses it's own horrible font. Is there any way I can make it use the same font as the rest of my device?
opera mini is the fast one... though fairly buggy