I saw this at the http://www.alk.com store. They're selling copilot Live 8 with maps for $19.99. limited time of course. I got my copy.
What do you think? I'm considering it since it's only $20. Not thrilled with amAze or nav4all, both free. I like google maps but it's not voice navigation.
I watched this review and it looks pretty good. Can't beat 20 bucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3sI0iu1OQk
Bought and used this weekend just for short trips around town. Handy and worked okay but not a replacement for my Garmin.
$20 seemed too cheap to pass up.
Used it this morning. Works great. Kiss AT&T telenav good bye!
Think they're trying to get users hooked before someone converts 'Google Maps with Voice naviagtion' to WM for free!!!
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Think they're trying to get users hooked before someone converts 'Google Maps with Voice naviagtion' to WM for free!!!
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That was my thought.
lol damn, saw this too late... It's $24.99 now...
i jumped on this deal too. if you download the pc app for it they even offer a new map for free. the new map is outdated though. both maps do not have my neighborhood on them. my neighborhood is about 2 years old and just started showing on maps within the last year. ocn had it mapped last summer and it showed on both google and tomtom this summer. i'm pretty surprised that it's not on the new map.
I used to use co-pilot but gave up because I called them way too many times to reset my "keys". It was hard to explain to them that I flashed my "custom" rom like I changed underwears. The lady there would questioned me why I have so much problem. I guess they think I am installing it in various phones of mine. So I switched to IGO8 to get away from having to call them when I flash another custom rom.
I used to sent in logs of areas that I droved that are not in their maps...and they would update their maps.
As far as their GPS, it is pretty good.
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I used to use co-pilot but gave up because I called them way too many times to reset my "keys". It was hard to explain to them that I flashed my "custom" rom like I changed underwears. The lady there would questioned me why I have so much problem. I guess they think I am installing it in various phones of mine. So I switched to IGO8 to get away from having to call them when I flash another custom rom.
I used to sent in logs of areas that I droved that are not in their maps...and they would update their maps.
As far as their GPS, it is pretty good.
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Hi SL...I also have it..do not need to call....all you need to do is to de-activate CoPilot before you flash and the re-activate when done. I hope this helps anyone.
Thanks for the tip! I bought it & installed, but wondered if there would be issues next time I decided to flash...
now with deactivate button
I went for the deal. So far I like it, but haven't used it enough to make an informed judgement. (as well as its my first tbt nav app). I did want to say to SL thatCopilot Live 8 has a deactivate button in the app now so there is no need to call support if you load a new ROM .....as long as you remember to deactivate it first.
I bought it over the 'sale' weekend, and have flashed twice since then without de-activating it. I don't use the 2577 folder install method, I use Sashimi to copy the entire \Program Files\CoPilot directory structure from a backup location. The first time I run it it needs to re-activate, but it only takes a couple seconds.
Can anyone confirm the necessity of de-activating before flashing?
I did it also.
So far soo good ! .
I used to have the old IPAQ Nav program moved over from my old IPaq 6515 to my previous HTC diamond. It worked well , but the graphic was basic.
Since to weeks I have the Samsung Omnia 2 (Bell Canada)and the new CoPilot seems to run very nice (at least graphic wise) and I find it preety easy to use.
Anyway for 20 bucks was a great value !
Works much better then Google maps. The Copilot maps don't have my Street either, my development is about 2 years old. Very good user interface.
Ironically enough , close to my house they made a link between two streets a year ago , and I see it on Copilot , but not on Google maps on-line !
Go figure..
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So I went out and used my GPS for the first road test. After turing on iGuidance i got a fix very quickly and it saw me...but then it was horrible in updating. I would start driving and sometimes it wouldnt even move for 30 seconds. the accuracy was not there either. With my ext GPS it would tell me I was a few feet from an intersection, now im lucky if im near it. I was getting 6-10/10 sats also, so very good. maybe the software? So what are everyone else's driving experiences and with what software? I dont have data so i cant use gmaps/live.
i just had google maps up and drove to the store this morning and it followed me very well....
then it followed me around the golf course almost exactly on the edge of the greens maybe 1-2 feet off at worst
My GPS sucks too. I have used googlemaps and geoscout(which I think actually works better than googlemaps) I am off by about 25 feet in a random direction with googlemaps using satellite maps. I too have 6-10 satellites.
Anyone have a cab for TrackyPro v3.0? I hear that that is really good especially for off roading.
google maps seems very accurate to me. also last night i was out of town and used the sprint navigator to find parking very easily. we were moving slowly, but i would estimate it had us within 10 foot.
It's been working great for me. I tried it out last night while on a quick drive and it tracked me the whole way which about 5 satellites much of the way. It was only a few feet off the entire time.
my google maps is accurate to within about 5-10 feet, i was in line at the mcdonalds drive through last night and for kicks i brough tup the satellite picture and watched my dot get closer to the window, lol
My gps is working better now. This is how I fixed it. First I relocked my phone. Then I upgraded to the original leaked version of 2.16.651.0 and let it do it's thing. DO NOT USE A MODIFIED 2.4/2.5 BOOTLOADER!!! For some reason the gps is of by about 20 feet when using the modified/hacked bootloader and is almost exact when using the original. The original is also much faster not only with gps but in genreal.
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My gps is working better now. This is how I fixed it. First I relocked my phone. Then I upgraded to the original leaked version of 2.16.651.0 and let it do it's thing. DO NOT USE A MODIFIED 2.4/2.5 BOOTLOADER!!! For some reason the gps is of by about 20 feet when using the modified/hacked bootloader and is almost exact when using the original. The original is also much faster not only with gps but in genreal.
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no offense, but this is completely false. the bootloader has no effect whatsoever on gps performance.
That may be true but for some reason that is what I have noticed. I have not changed any other settings either. Oh and dcd since you are here are you planning on releasing a kitchen for the new gps rom?
Used TomTom on the way home from a Sprint store and the thing followed me the whole way. Told me to turn the split second I got in front of the driveway. I am liking the added feature very much. Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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the GPS has to be initialized before it can be used, and some apps (like tomtom) dont do that
theres a thread on ppcgeeks about it, the OP recommends using maction (?) GPSViewer to initialize since i guess its faster than googlemaps
Google maps and Live Search work very well for me. Pretty much spot on.
I drove around today and tested it out. Followed me perfectly on the roads. No hicup of path....just chugged along right where I was....both in Google Maps and Live Search....Altho L.S. is cool because it shows the arrow...
My connections somtimes won't connect....like I've noticed it seemed slightly buggy...maybe just me....but if it does something weird...a soft reset DEF fixes it.
DCD.....YOU ROCK MY FACE! THANX!
PS...
This was my first ROM flash ever....I thought I was unpacking the BootLoader to my PC before I wanted to actually start...I hadn't read anything, and it installed on my phone and before I knew it I was staring at the multicolor bootloader screen.....F*%K! Long story short...I figured it all out with these forums and so THANKS!
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Used TomTom on the way home from a Sprint store and the thing followed me the whole way. Told me to turn the split second I got in front of the driveway. I am liking the added feature very much. Only complaint is why do I have to turn on google maps to get the GPS to work?
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I have had good luck with tom tom navigator as well. I too have the problem with having to have another program initialize the gps,but I understand there are people working on it.
Mine worked well all weekend. Using Google Maps it followed me all around town. Same as a previous posted for grins i pulled it up in a drive through and it tracked me slowly moving up in line. One or two hiccups but nothing earth shattering.
GPS works great
mine with googlemaps will update itself every second it looks like. tried it while driving around San Diego, it was spot on the whole time. if you turn on Field Trial when you're running a GPS app, then look at the GPS stats it will even show you your horizontal speed in meters/second. tried that while driving around too...seemed to be right on the money. have anywhere from 4 to 8 satellites most the time. at work right now in La Jolla, I've got 4 inside the building.
I'm having a similar issue with iGuidance and sent an email to my contact at iNav to see if there is a known issue.
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the GPS has to be initialized before it can be used, and some apps (like tomtom) dont do that
theres a thread on ppcgeeks about it, the OP recommends using maction (?) GPSViewer to initialize since i guess its faster than googlemaps
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Thanks. I found the app when I was looking around today and installed it. It does work well. Click it, it opens up the GPS then opens TomTom(or whatever program you want it to open).
Here is a thread on xda that links to ppcgeeks http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363111
GPS
Mine works like a hot damn.
Mobo
I took my boat out today and used it... thing was SPOT ON using gmaps! I stopped at a few islands and walked around and it tracked me all the way and it was exactly where the satellite pic said I was.
Sometimes I noticed in my car that if its not close to a window it will only get like 2 sats and the position wont be all that great. I have GPS built in my car, so its not a big deal.
Well ive finally done it ive had my mogul for almost 1year and i had an apache for like 2months (we got last ones before they got replaced with moguls at the sprint store) then we switched to the mogul my sisters are envious of the apps i have on my phone but i dont have alot. Im looking for all the must have apps for an 11 year old so just throw some in there that you really really like! Excuse my geek abbrivations xD
And yes ive searched around.
You might want to try the regular mogul forum. This forum is dedicated to upgrading the mogul's ROM.
why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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why in the world would an 11-year-old have a cell phone at all - let alone something like a mogul?
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Yeah, that's something that I would never want activated on a network..
A PDA? Great, letting a kid play is best for development.. Many of us here started quite young. My first comp was an Atari 400 at the age of 9. But a data capable cell phone? With the first HST modems I remember all the trouble that I got into..... To a long term investigation leading to the RCMP hauling me out of class and parents called in from their work. The advantages of being a minor but a later demonstration of CSIS' incompetence in passing me for a security check. I do miss my youth....
I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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I had my first phone when i was in 3rd grade but it was an old direct connect that got surpassed by the i580 from nextel and in 5th grade i got samsung then i got the apache cause my dad got 5 and got them for like 200 each cause we got 5 then when he realized they went out of sale at sprint and got surpassed by the mogul he got them all switched. And the only one in my family that actually can WORK ELECTRONICS. As most ppl would say plz keep on topic.
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Lucky you. I didn't get my first cell phone until I was 17 (had to work for it -_-).
Anyways I would recommend you get a GPS anti-theft program because you never know when other kids steal your phone or if you dropped it or if you forgot it somewhere. You could always pull up the location of the phone. But watch out, your parents could also use it to keep tabs on you
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Any in mind?
N715DP said:
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A phone: It depends on the person and what you do. A mogul: maybe not, but then if there's a few in the family.... It's also a nice internet device with Opera and Skyfire (though I can't get the beta yet...)
But people are getting technology younger and younger. Also these 2 year contracts and timing of the year effect how old you get your phone. I was 13 when I got mine for christmas and now I'm 15 and I got the voyager, but I had it switched for an XV6800 (which ended up being cheaper). Now I can't go back to a 'dumb-phone' Though I'm still hoping for an iPhone in a couple years can't imagine what it will be like then!
So as far as apps go: I use my phone for productivity and what not and I like customizing my phone. So for me there's Total Commander and I use the HTC Home plugin. Also I like the touch-esque comm manager and dial pad.
Also if you've got the latest sprint updates you can try something like Navizon which uses the GPS to map WiFi and cell towers. It sounds like a lot, but every 10,000 points you get $15 in cash. Currently, Navizon won't let Mogul and Titan variants map cell towers because of a system bug. So earning point may take a bit longer, but with the wireless age there's so many WiFi spots. I you use it could you click the link in my sig.
Also check some stuff out at http://www.freewarepocketpc.net
Hey-
I see that everyone decided to use your thread to criticize you for having a phone instead of just answering you question. Kinda lame.
Anyway, here is what I have:
-WM 6.1 for the threaded SMS
-S2U2 for full screen picture caller ID
-SPB mobile shell with Robodad's skin- makes the phone a lot easier to use. I like flashy and simple and mobile shell does both
-Google Maps and Live Search - Great when your out and need to fins a store or something nearby and finding cheap gas (dont think this really applies to you)
-Emerstec Jbed and Opera Mini - Great web browser
-Sprint Navigation - Good turn by turn directions for your gps. It is free with alot of sprint plans
- Sprint TV - This is really cool. It is currently working on the Mogul so enjoy while you can.
-WMWifiRouter - so that I can get internet on my laptop while I am out.
-Core player with Youtube bundle - so I can watch youtube videos
-Oxios Hibernate - Run it if your phone is being SLOW
-Advance configuration and nueLED - Just to tweak certain settings to my liking.
Hope this helps man. Let us know if you have any other questions. That is the point of this forum.
Anyone knows if TomTom is coming for Android soon? And waiting for that, does anyone have a good substitute? I cant use Google Maps when I´m driving
Co-Pilot ?...
Not sure when/if TomTom is coming, but Co-Pilot seems OK so far, and it's pretty cheap for UK and Ireland.
i doubt tomtom would come to android as they are developing for iphone and im not 100% sure but that might be exclusive at least for the time being.
I use copilot, and not troubles what so ever. only £22 bargain if you ask me and so easy to use.
I'm a big fan of copilot on my Magic - and I'm hoping I'll be OK to transfer it to the hero tomorrow when it arrives - It actually costs 25.99 because the market price (£22 somthing) doesn't have the VAT added.
I've heard of folk having glitches on hero as it supposedly clashes a bit with the sense UI. However the trick Ive read is to clear the defaults in the home app (I think through app manager) then when you press home button next it gives you the option to toggle off the Sense UI and allows progs like copilot to run ubersmoothly since the sense UI is not swalowing as much resources. You can toggle it back on after the journey I guess.
Daisy - +1 for CoPilot
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i doubt tomtom would come to android as they are developing for iphone and im not 100% sure but that might be exclusive at least for the time being.
I use copilot, and not troubles what so ever. only £22 bargain if you ask me and so easy to use.
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TomTom develop software for their own platfrom, for Windows Mobile last and finally; iPhone. So I fail to see how they could have any exclusivity there.
Actually, I bet TomTom have been looking hard into Android as a possible platform for their own devices, especially after the new Garmin and Mio GPS phones.
Cant find copilot on android market.
Hi
When I search for copilot using market on my hero I get no hits.
Were can I find it, hints please.
/Jonas
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Hi
When I search for copilot using market on my hero I get no hits.
Were can I find it, hints please.
/Jonas
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Really? I found it straight away. Have you searched for copilot wrote exactly like that? No spaces?
AndNav2 is working nicely for me. its in alpha so expect some crashes but all in all its ok, and freee!
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AndNav2 is working nicely for me. its in alpha so expect some crashes but all in all its ok, and freee!
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The only problem with AndNav is that you require a constant network connection.
Cant find CoPilot.
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Really? I found it straight away. Have you searched for copilot wrote exactly like that? No spaces?
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Ok, now i know why.
I live in Sweden, I only get to download the freeware.
/Jonas
Alternative choice for GPS navigation could be Nav4All.
I've installed it and seem not so bad. Actually I need to test it into a real environment like a trip on car...
Regards.
Alex
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Anyone knows if TomTom is coming for Android soon? And waiting for that, does anyone have a good substitute? I cant use Google Maps when I´m driving
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Copilot is good - no camera database and limited voices but the navigation itself and working with this phone is really good. The lane guidance feature works really well and is a plus over tomtom. NO reservations after changing
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The only problem with AndNav is that you require a constant network connection.
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Not so, with AndNav2 you create map tiles (which can be downloaded) and the program uses these. All you need a network connection is to calculate the inital route.
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Copilot is good - no camera database and limited voices but the navigation itself and working with this phone is really good. The lane guidance feature works really well and is a plus over tomtom. NO reservations after changing
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There is a camera database, you can go onto their website to download it.
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There is a camera database, you can go onto their website to download it.
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Thanks for this -- much appreciated. Got no points and want to keep it this way!
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The only problem with AndNav is that you require a constant network connection.
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I tried Andnav but found the map coverage not particularly great .
So awaiting my new sd card then off to copilot I will go
Have fun
Devchef1
Finally, this is available for WinMo phones. I just downloaded and will give it a try as soon as I step out of work. Not sure if y'all have given it a try yet.
Here is the CAB
Here is the link to download it. Navigate
Credit to RiceKnight over at Slickdeals.net
Nice!!!!! Been waiting for this FOREVER!! Thanks Dixon!
WM6...?
Does anybody know if this works on a WM6 Kaiser? I downloaded from the site yesterday but it was the same version (4.6.9179.1) that I've had for a while.
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Does anybody know if this works on a WM6 Kaiser? I downloaded from the site yesterday but it was the same version (4.6.9179.1) that I've had for a while.
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I will post the CAB file.
I have posted a link to the CAB in the first post.
what version is this?
I installed it on my Tilt2. I have a 19 mile ride home from work & got to test it. Bing navigation gets confused. Turning around in my work parking lot made it think I was already traveling & had taken a wrong turn. By the time I had gone from the corner my office is on to the next corner, Bing was back on track. And pretty much stayed that way for the various roads & turns (about 3 miles) that took me to a major interstate. However, several corners & the interchange onto the interstate had Bing briefly recalculating the route. Most of the interstate trip was uneventful for Bing. My route requires switching interstates before taking my local exit. And there's been a major expansion construction project going for over a year, with open roadways shifting as often as twice a week, sometimes. As I might expect, Bing's maps are preconstruction (as I'd expect everybody's to be till things stop changing). So, it was interesting to watch Bing continually recalculate for that 1/2 mile. Once we hit the exit ramp (which hadn't changed, even though the highway to it had), Bing locked on & never waivered for the last several miles home. All in all, it works pretty well for a first version of tun by turn. It does need some refining. But it's definitely usable.
Countries supported?
It appears that it only supports USA for now.
Its ridiculous how it has support for many other countries for the old Bing but not Australia.
How the heck do you make the phone talk during nav?
I'm not sure I'm doing it right, but I think you need to tap the screen every time you want to hear directions. Which is retarded, because one uses a GPS when they don't know where they're going, and having to touch the phone every other minute is a safety hazard for driving...
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I'm not sure I'm doing it right, but I think you need to tap the screen every time you want to hear directions. Which is retarded, because one uses a GPS when they don't know where they're going, and having to touch the phone every other minute is a safety hazard for driving...
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Used it the other night while driving in the rain. It actually felt less distracting once I got it figured out.
You get your route, you have your phone somewhere where it is nearby, not necessarily in your line of sight. Double tap the screen, it tells you the next event. You get to the way-point, it chimes when you get it right. When you want the next instruction, tap the screen. There weren't persistent nags, no big goofy animations, just your buddy reading the map when you asked what was next.
By all means, if you are used to a talkative GPS, it ain't gonna do it for you, but it is more like having a co-pilot instead of a back seat driver.
There is no way Microsoft wants me to reach over and try and press my phone while driving in traffic.
Try turn by turn from the marketplace. Not too expensive and doesn't need lots of taps!
Well I can confirm you need a 3rd party app for turn by turn
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Dumb comment... what about unsing Bing for navigation? I am a WM6.5 user looking at the Titan for my next phone and I was told Bing works fine with audio nav.
I use Bing on my Tilt2 all the time with no problems. Is it safe to assume it will work on the Titan too?
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Dumb comment... what about unsing Bing for navigation? I am a WM6.5 user looking at the Titan for my next phone and I was told Bing works fine with audio nav.
I use Bing on my Tilt2 all the time with no problems. Is it safe to assume it will work on the Titan too?
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I love the Bing navigation! I've used it to guide me in London for completely unknown streets (not high streets or motorways!) - and yet it easily found where I was and got me to the point B!
However, as other users say, you have to tap if you want that lady to speak to you every now and again after each turn. If that is a big inconvenience to you, then you will need 3rd party apps. But if you want just occasional talk and spot on maps, I think Bing will suffice!
Garmin just released their turn by turn nav for WP7, as well. Might want to try that and see if you like it, too. Companies are finally waking up to WP7, which is good, since it has the highest click-through rate when people are investigating phone. That means more money for them potentially...
Navigon is a great app if you don't like the one that comes with the phone. If you wait it tends to go on sale for $25 instead of $49
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Navigon is a great app if you don't like the one that comes with the phone. If you wait it tends to go on sale for $25 instead of $49
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Yeah, but the offline one never goes on sale.
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There is no way Microsoft wants me to reach over and try and press my phone while driving in traffic.
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You don't have to "press" anything. You just tap anywhere on the screen. I didn't have to take my eyes off the road.
I use gps tuner app which does fine until a better alternative comes along. I think its a few £ in the market. They have a couple of versions now. No tapping on the screen and it seems to use Bing maps.
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Just an FYI if you actually go to navigon's website they are now Owned by Garmin, just thought yall might like to know that.
I've got the Navigon Europe app and it's great. Traffic included as well which was always extra with tomtom and copilot.
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Garmin just released their turn by turn nav for WP7, as well. Might want to try that and see if you like it, too. Companies are finally waking up to WP7, which is good, since it has the highest click-through rate when people are investigating phone. That means more money for them potentially...
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I just got a Titan last weekend and the Garmin was one of the first apps I put on (29.99 US). It works as well as the stand alone Garmin I got my mom for Christmas last year. Well worth it (for me anyway).
I am disappointed Bing was not able to integrate turn by turn directions like Google Maps was. That is one Android has on all other platforms hands down (at least right this moment).
That and you can Pre-Cache parts of the map so you don't need to have active Data running constantly if you have a small Data plan like I do plus it's FREE. Also it's not that Bing (Microsoft) couldn't integrate Turn by Turn Directions, they just didn't. Makes you wonder what kind of kick backs they are getting from Garmin, TomTom, etc.
I have navigon offline and it was on sale when i got it. Latest update also allows you to just download certain states if you don't want 1.6gb taken up. also added weather.
I am NOT paying $30 for any mobile software... I'll just take one of my old phones with me. I really think that $30 is ridiculous for navigation...
I finally unlocked my titan and installed Nokia Drive, all of USA, for free. No live traffic, afaik, but meh, don't care.
I'm in the process of converting my topaz device into a dedicated gps anyway, since it can get free TMC
Heh, you also have one of those wm6.1 suckers, too, ?
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