Hello guys,
Need a little help.
Right now I am using the stock ROM and I wish to root my device.
But I wish to keep all my 40 to 50 over apps inside my phone, so what can I do to shift those apps to my rooted device (Apps2SD) in future?
Will Market still understand my apps after I transfer to my rooted device?
Thanks,
Jeremy
If you install MoDaCo's ROM, as long as you don't partition your SD card for Apps2SD, your apps will remain on your phone. If/when you do want to move them, simply partitioning the card is all you need to do and the ROM will do the rest automatically.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
If you install MoDaCo's ROM, as long as you don't partition your SD card for Apps2SD, your apps will remain on your phone. If/when you do want to move them, simply partitioning the card is all you need to do and the ROM will do the rest automatically.
Regards,
Dave
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I thought that if I were to flash MoDaCo's ROM, than it will be a hardreset right?
How do this flash thing actually works?
Sorry, I came from Windows Mobile to android, so its something new to me.
Thanks,
Jeremy
Thats part of the whole process of going from Windows to Linux
im new aswell but all my stuff endded up being deleted.
because to flash you will need to wipe out the stock ruu and this procces will delete everything. but you can use a backup manager that will backup your apps. but to back up the settings for the apps (e.g. high scores in games) or market link to update in the future you will need root. so you will have to start all over again with your app collecrtion
unless there is a new workaround to this that im not familiar with
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hi guys i have a hero on latest orange firmware and i would like to install this app so i can copy my apps to sd card instead of internal memory im running windows xp just to let you know
can i use a partition manager in windows to set up the card then install ap2sd and start moving the apps or do i have to do it a different way
if i can do it that way can someone point me in the right direction for a guide on how to do it
if not i will search for the link again about doing via cmd prompt
If you have the latest Orange firmware, from Orange, you will not be rooted. You will need to root your phone first. I'd be inclined to install a Modaco custom ROM anyway, since APPS2SD is built in.
Regards,
Dave
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If you have the latest Orange firmware, from Orange, you will not be rooted. You will need to root your phone first. I'd be inclined to install a Modaco custom ROM anyway, since APPS2SD is built in.
Regards,
Dave
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i have already rooted my phone mate and what would be the advantage of installing modaco rom also all i want to do is install ap2sd, don't really want to brick the phone or break it in anyway and i don't know what guide to follow to flash with latest modaco rom
The advantage of going to the Modaco ROM is that Apps2SD is already built in. Couple it with Amon-Ra's recovery image, and you have everything you need to get your apps onto your SD card.
However, if you don't want to do this, you could try following this guide, though I couldn't tell if you it was 100% applicable for the Hero. Certainly the section concerning using JF's recovery terminal won't be applicable as the Hero doesn't have a hardware keyboard, so I guess you'll be taking the adb/fastboot route.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: Meant to say one last thing - which is the easiest route, Modaco ROM or "manual"? Modaco, by a country mile.
cheers mate whats the safest best way of doing it and what firmware/modem pack is best for uk orange also what is the apn settings for orange as i guess i will lose them after update
I believe that all the recent Modaco releases have the Orange APNs built in, though I could be wrong.
Assuming you already have a custom recovery image (Cyanogen, Amon-Ra etc), this post should give you what you need to go to the latest Modaco ROM. If you haven't already got a custom ROM image installed, do so, because you'll be able to Nandroid backup your exist ROM and roll back if necessary.
Personally, I'm still on Cyanogens recovery image because I really see no need to Apps2SD, but the Amon-Ra recovery image has been well received and can partition your SD card for you to get Apps2SD working.
Regards,
Dave
Agree with Foxmeister, using Modaco's custom ROM is by far the easiest way to do it.
I'm using the latest Modaco ROM V2.7.1 and it just works, it's fast reliable and you'll have a rooted phone that will allow you to do so much more in the long run.
I'm also using RA-HERO-v1.2.2 recovery console and you've got the option to move all apps + Dalvik-cache to the SD, partition your SD Card etc with a couple of key strokes. Couldn't be easier really.
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cheers mate whats the safest best way of doing it and what firmware/modem pack is best for uk orange also what is the apn settings for orange as i guess i will lose them after update
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APN Setting for Orange UK is OrangeInternet.
I'm using the Modaco custom ROM on Orange UK and haven't ever had to reset the APN settings even after a complete wipe of the phone.
I have a rooted CDMA Hero, with stock Rom software version 1.6. I have removed a lot of the apps that came on the phone by reading and learning here, thanks to everyone for that. I now want to install the AppsToSD 2 app, first off, I noticed it's no longer available in the Market, but anyway, I read here almost everywhere that one has to either install "the Dude's" or "JF 1.5" rom to get AppsToSD 2 to work. I have some terminal / linux command knowledge, which I used to root the phone, but I just want to know if with that knowledge, is it possible to install AppsToSD 2 on a STOCK rom like I have, and move the apps to the sd card? I just don't want to install a non-factory rom and modify the OS to that level, removing some stocks apps is one thing, but I don't want to go through the hassle and dangers of flashing a new rom. So is there any way I can still get AppsToSD to work with my stock Hero rom?
Thanks for any suggestions
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I have a rooted CDMA Hero, with stock Rom software version 1.6. I have removed a lot of the apps that came on the phone by reading and learning here, thanks to everyone for that. I now want to install the AppsToSD 2 app, first off, I noticed it's no longer available in the Market, but anyway, I read here almost everywhere that one has to either install "the Dude's" or "JF 1.5" rom to get AppsToSD 2 to work. I have some terminal / linux command knowledge, which I used to root the phone, but I just want to know if with that knowledge, is it possible to install AppsToSD 2 on a STOCK rom like I have, and move the apps to the sd card? I just don't want to install a non-factory rom and modify the OS to that level, removing some stocks apps is one thing, but I don't want to go through the hassle and dangers of flashing a new rom. So is there any way I can still get AppsToSD to work with my stock Hero rom?
Thanks for any suggestions
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No, it's a no-go!
shelnes said:
No, it's a no-go!
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sorry to rain on your parade, but it is possible, and not that hard.
boot the custom recovery image, partition your sdcard, move the apps to the ext partition, create the symlinks in /data and reboot. there you go, stock rom, stock recovery, apps on sdcard. works until you flash a new rom (which would delete the symlinks so you'd have to recreate them), but since you don't want to do that you are good to go.
My bad! Sorry! To my defense I have to say that someone told me it wasn't possible. I'll start double-checking my sources from now on.
Just got my Aria today and I have a few questions I was hoping that people can answer. This is my first Android phone so be patient please.
1. My goal is to remove the ATT crapware and be able to sideload apps. However, I am not sure how stable the LiberatedRom. So is there a way to do that as I wait for a more stable rom?
2. What method of installing custom roms is better? I feel like us android noobs need a wiki for android b/c I have been following the Aria forum since it started and read everything, but I am still very confused.
3. Can you brick your phone rooting? Or is it not as dangerous as flashing a rom on an WinMo?
4. For those that have used LiberateRom, how stable is it?
Thanks for all the help and I have a few more questions, but I forgot them b/c I am excited about this phone. Ill add them once I remember them.
I've been using Liberated for nearly three weeks and it's been perfectly stable. I'm currently using B003 though. Can't speak for the newer betas.
Please take a look at the threads in the Aria Development forum as it would have the answers to most of these questions.
That being said the Liberated ROM is the stock ROM with root and busybox added, but the crapware has been removed. There are no changes to the ROM itself.
I haven't heard anyone bricking their Aria yet, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible. Always follow the instructions posted for flashing. Right now the Unrevoked tool is probably the best way to flash new ROMS though.
Ive been using the Boo3 for a few weeks now and its great because all the ATT crap was removed. It never messed up on me.
The hardest part for flashing this rom is getting into clockwork recovery to flash it. But once you do and you flash you will have root, then you can install ROM manager from the market and reboot into clockwork at any time easily to flash any ROM you want. Did i mention It gives you ROOT
You can always return to stock at any time by installing the original ROM from HTC site.
Thundervore said:
Ive been using the Boo3 for a few weeks now and its great because all the ATT crap was removed. It never messed up on me.
The hardest part for flashing this rom is getting into clockwork recovery to flash it. But once you do and you flash you will have root, then you can install ROM manager from the market and reboot into clockwork at any time easily to flash any ROM you want. Did i mention It gives you ROOT
You can always return to stock at any time by installing the original ROM from HTC site.
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Can you explain the concept of root?
I am sorry if that is a super-noob question, but I like learning stuff. Thanks in advance.
tilt4life2 said:
Can you explain the concept of root?
I am sorry if that is a super-noob question, but I like learning stuff. Thanks in advance.
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Rooting a phone simply means giving it Administrative rights. An unrooted (stock) phone is like having a guest account. With a rooted phone, you can do almost anything; flash custom roms, make a nandroid, permenantly remove unwanted apps.
Just got my Aria about a week ago and researched and rooted it with attn1's Liberated b003 in less than 24 hours, haha. I'm a total android noob myself
churapa said:
Rooting a phone simply means giving it Administrative rights. An unrooted (stock) phone is like having a guest account. With a rooted phone, you can do almost anything; flash custom roms, make a nandroid, permenantly remove unwanted apps.
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Thanks for that explanation. A few more questions:
1. I am still using my Tilt as my phone until the skin and screen protector for my Aria arrive so I don't have any relevant data on there. Would a Nandroid backup still be necessary?
2. What is the proper way to shut down applications? I couldn't do it for the life of me so I downloaded Advanced Task Killer from the market which was great.
3. Can you access Market without entering your Google account info? The reason I ask is that initial in put in my info and it copied all my Gmail contacts to the phone which I didn't want.
4. I am assuming if you sideload apps you can choose to install in on an SD, but is there anyway to install Market apps to sd?
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1. I am still using my Tilt as my phone until the skin and screen protector for my Aria arrive so I don't have any relevant data on there. Would a Nandroid backup still be necessary?
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A nandroid backup is used to restore your phone as it is. If you haven't got any data on it then making a nandroid backup sort of defeats the purpose I think. Also, you need to already have root and clockwork if you want to make a nandroid backup [I think] so it is not as if you even could create a backup prior to rooting.
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2. What is the proper way to shut down applications? I couldn't do it for the life of me so I downloaded Advanced Task Killer from the market which was great.
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It basically depends upon the application. Some have the ability to quit when you select the menu button, while others continue to run in the background.
You can selectively kill apps by going to "running services" found under the "applications" setting on the phone. No app required.
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3. Can you access Market without entering your Google account info? The reason I ask is that initial in put in my info and it copied all my Gmail contacts to the phone which I didn't want.
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I think you must sign into your google account to use market.
However, in "accounts and sync" under the phone's settings there is an option to disable contact syncing for your google account.
Or, you could just create a new google account with no contacts and log in using that.
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4. I am assuming if you sideload apps you can choose to install in on an SD, but is there anyway to install Market apps to sd?
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I think whether or not you can install apps to the SD card depends upon the app, not how you install it
From what I remember Android 2.2 will have native apps to SD support but it will be up to the specific developer to enable this feature on their app.
Check the forums, as there is(are) definitely a thread or two discussing installation of apps to the SD card.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App
oahceasgnikgneas said:
A nandroid backup is used to restore your phone as it is. If you haven't got any data on it then making a nandroid backup sort of defeats the purpose I think. Also, you need to already have root and clockwork if you want to make a nandroid backup [I think] so it is not as if you even could create a backup prior to rooting.
It basically depends upon the application. Some have the ability to quit when you select the menu button, while others continue to run in the background.
You can selectively kill apps by going to "running services" found under the "applications" setting on the phone. No app required.
I think you must sign into your google account to use market.
However, in "accounts and sync" under the phone's settings there is an option to disable contact syncing for your google account.
Or, you could just create a new google account with no contacts and log in using that.
I think whether or not you can install apps to the SD card depends upon the app, not how you install it
From what I remember Android 2.2 will have native apps to SD support but it will be up to the specific developer to enable this feature on their app.
Check the forums, as there is(are) definitely a thread or two discussing installation of apps to the SD card.
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Thanks for the clarification again. I actually understand Android things now.
Installing a new ROM on the Aria
How do you get into the "command prompts" on the Aria (after installing unrevoked 3) so you can install a new ROM on the device?
notec said:
How do you get into the "command prompts" on the Aria (after installing unrevoked 3) so you can install a new ROM on the device?
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Search is your best friend on the forum. The instructions for installing a new ROM on a rooted machine has been covered on many threads.
Regards,
Tom
how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
TD420 said:
how do i get my apps to sdcard? any help is much appreciated.
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Need more information in order to answer this question.
1. Are you rooted or are you running completely stock?
2. If you are rooted, which ROM are you currently running?
apps to sdcard
yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
TD420 said:
yes i am rooted, running kaosfroyo, i downloaded & flashed the apps2sdcard zip but said "installation aborted".
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Well you may be getting ahead of yourself. Froyo-based ROMs have a built-in capability to move individual apps to your SD card. What version of KF are you running? If it's something recent, then go to Menu/Settings/CyanogenMod settings/Application settings and checkmark "Allow application moving".
You don't have to flash any zip for this. That would be for the "old" style of Apps2SD, which although not impossible to use with Froyo ROMs, requires some advanced steps that's honestly a PITA and not worth it in my opinion.
Note that not all apps can successfully be moved to the SD card, and you should not move any apps that have widgets you want to use, because if you do the widgets won't be available in the Widget selection screen.
To move the apps, go to Menu/Settings/Applications/Manage applications and select the app you want to try to move. After a slight delay, you'll see a screen with the option to "Move to SD card". If it fails then it just doesn't work with that particular app, press the back button and try it again with another.
There are apps for easier handling of moving apps in Froyo. There's one on the market I would have recommended but it recently (through an upgrade) became a crippled pay app so luckily I still have the old version.
You can use Titanium Backup to try to move all your apps to your SD card, and then you can go back in to Manage applications and move the individual apps that have widgets you want to use, back to the phone memory.
Hope this helps.
thank you. was a lot of help.
You're welcome!
Thanks as well, was looking for the step by step on how to do this.
"Glad to be of service"
^ Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
You're welcome!
I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
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I hope this question doesn't expose my noob too badly but here goes..
I just flashed the newest Workshed gingerbread rom (2.4). I came from 2.1 which is where I first started putting apps on my SD card. In flashing 2.3 I did a full data + dalvik wipe, flashed rom and flashed gapps per instructions. So there's the history, now to my question:
I'm trying to restore all my apps and those that I moved to the SD card in 2.1 are still showing up in the .android_secure folder on my SD card (as viewed on my computer) but not showing up as available apps on my phone. What I want to know is if I can restore all my apps from that folder or if I should just re-install all of them, which isn't a huge problem it would just be easier to restore and I'm lazy lol. Also, if I have to reinstall the apps, should I delete the ones from 2.1 that are in that folder?
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This is confusing. 2.1 doesn't have native Apps2SD like Froyo and Gingerbread (2.2 and 2.3) have. The Apps2SD available for 2.1 ROMs use a separate partition on your SD card, not the .android-secure folder, which is only placed there by Froyo and GB (or yourself).
Do you have a nandroid of your old ROM from before you flashed GSB? If so, nandroid GSB and then restore your 2.1 nandroid and use Titanium Backup or My Backup off the Android Market to back up and restore your apps. If this is too painful without buying the pay versions of those apps (more useful, in TB you can do a batch backup and restore of all your apps instead of one at a time), then yes you should reinstall your apps manually. TB or My Backup will also backup and restore your apps' data, though, so you wouldn't have to re-enter all your apps individual settings.
Additionally, in the future, you should use some method to wipe the contents of the .android-secure folder when flashing a new ROM or a new version of a ROM, unless you are attempting a flashover (not wiping data, just wiping Dalvik cache), which is at least 50% of the time not completely successful (some things may not work correctly).
You can delete the folder manually, or...
There's an app called ROM Manager on the market. GSB (so far) also includes it. If you choose the option to "flash" the ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager, it will not actually overwrite Amon RA (assuming that's what recovery you use currently), it will allow you to load CWM Recovery from Amon RA by choosing (in Amon) to flash "update.zip", which ROM Manager places there after following the above steps.
The reason I'm detailing this is because CWM Recovery, when you choose it's Wipe Data/Factory Reset option, also wipes the contents of the .android-secure folder, and Amon RA Recovery does not. Also, using the ROM Manager method, you can still keep Amon RA Recovery on your phone, so you can have the best of both worlds.
I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
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I meant worksheds GSB version 2.1 sorry. Yeah I'll definitely follow your advice to clean up my .android_secure folder for next time, I broke down and re-installed all my apps already and set up Titanium backup so I don't have to do that again. I just wasn't sure whether or not I should delete the contents of that folder or if I could recover my apps from it. Thanks for the help!
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I'm an idiot. LOL. Why I assumed you meant Android 2.1 instead of GSB 2.1, I don't know.
You're welcome!
ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
locovagra said:
ok I successfully rooted an optimus V phone with superoneclick and adb shell. And how nice was it to see "Running a SU test.......Success !" so of course I went ahead and downloaded superuser and titanium backup as per the tutorial I used. everything checks out. so what's next??? getting Root without doing something nifty is pretty worthless. so... I think I am going to go with an optimized stock rom as suggested to limit headaches for now.
Some tutorials suggest backing things up. Some talk again activating the storage feature and start adding rom's to the sd card. etc... all I know that titanium backup doesn't care much for the stock rom as it is. By the way do I need to worry about changing the kernel?
I am planning on going with Harmonia for this optimus V, if that helps, for a rom.
Always open to advice on what you'd recommend and why. thanks folks !!
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Wait...you rooted without knowing what you were planning to do after you rooted?
First, you'll want to boot into recovery and do a nandroid backup (just in case you ever needed to go back to stock for warranty reasons). Then pick a ROM. My ROM of choice is is [ROM][WIP][ALPHA] aospCMod | AOSP 2.3.3 / CM7 (Gingerbread). Download the gapps file and put on root of SD card. For this ROM, go to Twitter and search aospluniX. WARNING...make sure you download the OV files, NOT the HC files. Once the 2 OV files are downloaded put on root of SD card. Boot into recovery mode, wipe data/cache, wipe Dalvik cache. At main menu, go to Flash .zip from SD card. Flash the OV ROM file. When that finishes flash the gapps file. Reboot, then behold the glory that is AOSP!
EDIT: almost forgot, flashing a kernel is up to you. Just place on root of SD card and flash. You can do this at any time. AOSP's ROM has a built in kernel, which is my preference. Seems to run really smooth and fast for me.