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Hey Guys,
I tried this rom from the beginning.. but there's always been this GPS issue,
I updated Radios, re-flashed Radios after Flashing the rom, always did a wipe,
tried enabling GPS before flashing the ROM (some things, other people helped)
nothing helped for me, and i've also seen, there're many other people out there, which do have the same problem.
I like GPS myTracks, Navi, etc... everything can work fine but I don't want to restart my phone and loose about 10-15% of the power to just en-able GPS... that's way off...
so my question: some guys, brought it to work...
what radios do you use? which kind of version...
how did you flash? anything un-ordinary ;=) etc..
Please, I think there is a solution, except fixing the bug ;P
greets,
I used the latest radio version, but you have to enable gps after flashing the Rom and then restart the phone, once that's done, gps will work with no problems and as far as I know, it doesn't reset if rebooted
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not working
mrbubba999 said:
I used the latest radio version, but you have to enable gps after flashing the Rom and then restart the phone, once that's done, gps will work with no problems and as far as I know, it doesn't reset if rebooted
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thanks for the answer... sry, didn't have any time to test it earlier...
this does not work for me...
when I reboot (after first reboot with GPS enabled) with GPS dis-abled...
i _again_ never get sattelites... :/
crazyVII said:
thanks for the answer... sry, didn't have any time to test it earlier...
this does not work for me...
when I reboot (after first reboot with GPS enabled) with GPS dis-abled...
i _again_ never get sattelites... :/
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Are you disabling GPS and then trying to get satelites?
Is there any reason why you just don't leave GPS enabled? it won't effect anything unless its being used.
true?
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Are you disabling GPS and then trying to get satelites?
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I just want wo boot the phone, with GPS dis-abled, and want to enable it, just when i want to use it! that's it
so no, i'm not disabeling it and try to get satellites, I just want to boot with GPS disabled...
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Is there any reason why you just don't leave GPS enabled? it won't effect anything unless its being used.
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Okay, that's a different approach ;=)
So you have GPS always en-abled and it does not drain power? does not effect anything? and is just being used if an application like MyTracks, GoogleMaps etc is beeing opened?
What if GoogleMaps is one of the 6 'last-used' applications? sure about that?
thanks a lot for uR response,
mike
crazyVII said:
So you have GPS always en-abled and it does not drain power? does not effect anything? and is just being used if an application like MyTracks, GoogleMaps etc is beeing opened?
What if GoogleMaps is one of the 6 'last-used' applications? sure about that?
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I always have GPS enabled without any battery problems. It is only on and working when an app asks for it. Google Maps stops asking for it when you hit the return button. You can tell that for yourself. When in Google maps you can see the GPS is being used because it shows on the notification bar at the top as an icon of a white dish with green arcs. Then hit return and that icon disappears. All good apps let go of GPS as soon as they are finished with it.
BTW the list you get when you hold down the home button is only a history list - it does not mean they are working in the background.
thanks
peterc10 said:
I always have GPS enabled without any battery problems. It is only on and working when an app asks for it. Google Maps stops asking for it when you hit the return button. You can tell that for yourself. When in Google maps you can see the GPS is being used because it shows on the notification bar at the top as an icon of a white dish with green arcs. Then hit return and that icon disappears. All good apps let go of GPS as soon as they are finished with it.
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'good apps' ;=) i don't like these words but thanks for explaining )
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BTW the list you get when you hold down the home button is only a history list - it does not mean they are working in the background.
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didn't knew that, just thought those are those (for developers) who are in 'pause' mode, others are closed... thought i've read this somewhere.. but not sure..
Isn't it disturbing you, that GPS is enabled all the time?
crazyVII said:
Isn't it disturbing you, that GPS is enabled all the time?
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Why should it? Just because it is enabled does not mean it is actually on or using any power. It means it is waiting to be turned on when an app I decide to open asks for it. So, for example, my sat nav, google maps, yelp, or google places all turn it on when they open and then turn it off when they finish. They are all "good" in the sense of being well designed apps, that do what they are supposed to. Sorry if you don't like that term but that is what I mean.
Not so well designed ones, like, for example, Shop Savvy don't switch it off. And that is annoying. But in any event I know whether it is on or off by looking at the notifications bar - if the dish icon is there then it is on, if not it isn't, even though I have it enabled.
If it starts coming on randomly then I know I have a rogue app doing something in the background that I have not asked it to do.
hehe thanks man
it's just the thing...
-my location
-GPS
-worldwide
PLUS: en-abled
but i understand now 'good apps' just use it on demand,
bad always have the connection open
just an open connection start battery draining
i just wanted to prevent all this by simple en-ableing it JUST when i need it
like things usally are used turned on - on demand hehe
thx man
finally : it does NOT WORK
so guys...
finally, now tested it about 1 week with the above congifuration...
GPS always on ... on boot... the whole time the phone is up
- @ modaco custom rom: i started any GPS app, and within about 10 seconds, at max 30secs i got a working GPS lock on about 4-7 satellites...
and was able to locate my me
here (vanillain 5.2): i start.. wait.. get 'to see' 2-4-5 satellites (fast) but they don't lock, they vanish for about 1sec, again 5-6 satellites ... sometimes 7 but the just don't lock ---- waiting---- waiting---- ...
i can hold my position: wait for some minutes.. then i ---- get a lock.. then also gps-tracking works... somehow, sometimes
but guys, i really don't have that much time.
I want to get GPS locks during walking.., at any time, fast. i want to get it fast, and everything else ist just '''''BS'''''
so for me: it's not working at vanillain..
that's not worth calling...it works... sry
TIP PS:
guys, switch to 'legendroid 1.01' for working GPS!
i got a lock within 5 secs in my room!!! to 8 satellites...
and enabled GPS after boot (it was dis-abled at boot time) at first boot for the first time,
everything works perfekt
thanks a lot at the developer of legendroid
crazyVII said:
I want to get GPS locks during walking.., at any time, fast. i want to get it fast, and everything else ist just '''''BS'''''
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Then stick to the stock ROM. I have no problem picking up GPS position very quickly with my unrooted unmodded Hero. And I get it when I am walking or driving
thanks just modaco is enough
i'm just criticising such messages
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- All hardware working as it should
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^^is users post and wirte that they DO have problems with it...
(also wrote a pm directly.. no response)
vanillain 5.4 - gps works with radio version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29 - boot with GP
so guys.. i can confirm...
using this radio (i need to boot with GPS en-abled..) but at least...
i always get a GPS signal and lock within minutes...
>>>gps works with radio version: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29 - boot with GPS on<<<
For those of us that are not getting better gps on EC01 or various Rom's like me this fix is for you.
Instructions: With Root Explorer (or similar app) go to /etc/gps.conf
In Root Explorer long press on the file and select open in text editor
Change the first line from: NTP_SERVER=north-america.pool.ntp.org to NTP_SERVER=us.pool.ntp.org
Then Download GPS aids from the market and run that for even better results
Save changes and reboot
ENJOY
What exactly is an NTP server, and why would this edit make it more accurate?
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I sort of want to try this...
Is there any way this can mess up GPS even more?
tripacer99 said:
What exactly is an NTP server, and why would this edit make it more accurate?
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^ x2
Wow, just did this while watching tv ... instant lock !!!
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Network time protocol.
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I think it might be time to just face the fact that the Fascinate's GPS chip sucks.
Would like to try this, but when i try to open in text editor
in root explorer, it says read-only.
Top center, there's a gray button. click that to go to r/w.
I tried this inside, in the basement while it's storming outside. Haven't turned on GPS all day and it seemed to work. GPS lock w/o Wifi TTFF in 12 seconds. GPS lock w/ Wifi TTFF in 2 seconds (Using GPS AIDS GPS status test).
Time before was around 30 seconds and 10 seconds respectively.
Ahhh of course. Thank you!
DirgeExtinction said:
Top center, there's a gray button. click that to go to r/w.
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I don't think it's the chip, it's how the nav or map app tries to access the information and turns the chip on that's the issue. When I turn on Gmaps, it sometimes sits for a full minute before locking. But sometimes, it takes a second or two. Its got to be because the communication already happened between the app and the reciever.
Here's why this is my opinion. Reboot the phone and start the GPS Test app from the market(sometime within seconds even indoors), watch it find satellites and lock. Usually does it much much faster than maps. After you do this open maps, voila instant position. Theres some kind of issue with how maps initiates the GPS reception on this phone. So I keep GPS Test installed, and when I know I need to know where I am, I turn it on for 5 seconds, then open maps.
If anyone who actually knows what the hell they are doing knows how to edit the commands that Gmaps uses, you could be immortal.
Well wow, gps lock beat me before I even opened up
gps test. Amazing. Thank you!
No luck for me (everything in GPS Test just ramains at '0' or equivalent... no sats even detected!).
north-america.pool.ntp.org seems to have a fair bit higher latency than us.pool.ntp.org, but that shouldn't really make too massive of an impact. This isn't, though, gonna change your GPS from not working at all to suddenly working, just increase the lock speed a bit.
Interesting, I thought that GPS only used the satellite clocks!
GPS has almost always been livable with my Fascinate. I don't know if I am just very lucky, or if it's because I leave it on all the time.
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Yeah the fascinate chip does not suck this fix is great even when I reboot my phone still locks great everytime any time you change roms re do this fix
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Yeah I know GPS is based on time delays between satellites, not entirely sure how it works so it would make sense that using a different time server might help? Just chiming in so people can hopefully understand what NTP has to do with GPS.
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Basic_concept_of_GPS for reference.
dangerismymiddlename.com said:
Interesting, I thought that GPS only used the satellite clocks!
GPS has almost always been livable with my Fascinate. I don't know if I am just very lucky, or if it's because I leave it on all the time.
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You and i need to knock on wood, I am in the same boat as you. Never had serious issues with it and really worry about that the most when I flash something new...
Tried this with EA28 and EC01, no luck on it for me, my GPS is fairly good, other then it my condo. Just a little frustrating when my Eris worked fine, and my wife's Droid works fine.
This cut the time to lock in half for me. Thanks.
Still not instant but noticeably faster.
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I was out checking out marina's for my boat yesterday... I was actually surprised.... google maps didn't need ANY data connection at all (they all were in the same town) to accomplish this task, I even used "navigation" while doing this and never had to connect at all, seems like google maps/navigation must download all the maps for your area the first time you connect??
Anyway, I'm on the OTA honey comb and what I noticed is that the GPS would find my location, zero it in on the map and almost go to sleep? I was driving down the road and it'd find my location......the arrow would freeze then the gps ICON would start searching for a lock and it'd grab my location about 15 seconds later.
It did this over and over. Never being able to hold on to my location, just grabbing it, losing the lock and trying to find it again.
Does LeeDroid fix this problem?
Didn't fix it on mine... Of course, ymmv
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My phone (htc Inc2 running mt4g rom) did this last week. I think it has more to do with the quality of the GPS signal. Try the rapid GPS lock fix posted in the flyer forums.
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On all the HC ROMs, GPS works but not fully. It will pick up an initial fix , work for a about 30 seconds, then reset and may or may not fix again. Its fine if you just need to know current location, but not good if you try to use navigation.
No one has come up with a bug fix yet. The rapid fix helps, but may not fully solve your problem.
Yeah I had the same issue. Wonder if a third party navigation app might fix the issue
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J3ff said:
I was out checking out marina's for my boat yesterday... I was actually surprised.... google maps didn't need ANY data connection at all (they all were in the same town) to accomplish this task, I even used "navigation" while doing this and never had to connect at all, seems like google maps/navigation must download all the maps for your area the first time you connect??
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It may have been that the cached local map data was just not bumped out of memory yet, and you didn't travel outside that initially cached area. You can do this to some degree on any device with Google Maps, AFAIK. You just have to be careful not to open too many apps and whatnot.
yes, hc needs upgrades for gps, something in the system makes it crash after a minute. possibly an upcoming small ota from htc to fix this?
I am using LG Net (P690) and have tried a few available roms but have been facing a constant problem in all of them, that is GPS won't work at all.
Tried GPS Status & Toolbox to clear the a-gps but nothing. It wont even detect the satellites.
Anyone with similar troubles..??
I am on CM7.2.3
First GPS fix may take an awful lot of time even with a-gps and good visibility if your phone does not have well synchronized time.
In case your phone is rooted, you might try fasterfix (available for free from the market) which enables you select physically close NTP server. For me, it helped getting the fix from sometimes more than 10 minutes to a couple of seconds.
thonzak said:
First GPS fix may take an awful lot of time even with a-gps and good visibility if your phone does not have well synchronized time.
In case your phone is rooted, you might try fasterfix (available for free from the market) which enables you select physically close NTP server. For me, it helped getting the fix from sometimes more than 10 minutes to a couple of seconds.
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Thanx Thonzak, will try that..
didn't work...can it be a hardware problem.. ?how can I determine that its a hardware problem or software..??
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As the title says, my GPS will turn on and will lock fine but in google maps it says im about half a mile away, actually on the road i lived on when i first got the G1 like 7 years ago, if that makes any difference.
Instago says im elsewhere but keeps moving erraticly as if Im teleporting to places instantly but still within a half mile from me,
OsmAnd will get my location but only if connected to data, even though it has downloaded offline maps.
Offi travel will give me directions but from the afforementioned half mile away address. which for both apps doesnt move or change even when im moving.
I flashed an aGPS patch from on here recently which may have caused this, i dont use gps much so this may have started because of this or before, i dont know. Any ideas on ways to solve this or some things i could try?
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robneymcplum said:
As the title says, my GPS will turn on and will lock fine but in google maps it says im about half a mile away, actually on the road i lived on when i first got the G1 like 7 years ago, if that makes any difference.
Instago says im elsewhere but keeps moving erraticly as if Im teleporting to places instantly but still within a half mile from me,
OsmAnd will get my location but only if connected to data, even though it has downloaded offline maps.
Offi travel will give me directions but from the afforementioned half mile away address. which for both apps doesnt move or change even when im moving.
I flashed an aGPS patch from on here recently which may have caused this, i dont use gps much so this may have started because of this or before, i dont know. Any ideas on ways to solve this or some things i could try?
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Try flashing an new rom,or the same to try deleting and restore /system or if you have any backup through CWM o TWRP restore /system, if i helped you thanks button bellow :good:
Cheers for the reply, but I only have a backup of this same rom as apart from this issue, which I only noticed today, it all works well. I can live without it being accurate, I hardly use it to be homest. Just wondering if it was a known issue with a simple fix?
4.4.2 AOSB if that matters, on dorinmax.
robneymcplum said:
Cheers for the reply, but I only have a backup of this same rom as apart from this issue, which I only noticed today, it all works well. I can live without it being accurate, I hardly use it to be homest. Just wondering if it was a known issue with a simple fix?
4.4.2 AOSB if that matters, on dorinmax.
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I would try GPS Status from the market. load it, press menu button and select tools/Manage A-GPS State/ reset for a cold start and see if that helps.
You can also use it to download assistance data from the net. That app is pretty good for monitoring what is going on with your GPS. It also has a few other tools for calibrating sensors.
Thanks, but there are 2 apps with the same name, is one better than the other?
robneymcplum said:
Thanks, but there are 2 apps with the same name, is one better than the other?
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Sorry, I didn't realize....GPS Status & Tool box by eclipsim I believe...
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Tried that one, and nothing was happening. was just stuck doing this:
robneymcplum said:
Tried that one, and nothing was happening. was just stuck doing this:
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0 fix and only 4 satellites looks like weak GPS or just a bad spot.. Have you tried outside and going to a different location to try to get it to fix?
I just went through this the other day myself with 2 of these phones after flashing a few different ROMs. It just wouldn't pick up SATs or fix until I did a reset (cold start) with that app and drove around a little...After that it would lock even in my house...
It worked for me so I thought I'd suggest it...If you didn't know, When your GPS actually gets a fix your GPS icon in status bar should stop flashing and if it starts flashing again it has lost the fix and is searching for SATs again.
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This was done in my conservatory with a glass roof, I dont have mobile data but if I go right outside, IE, with no wifi, would that make a difference? Do i need wifi/data/internet to get a good gps lock or for this app to work?
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This was done in my conservatory with a glass roof, I dont have mobile data but if I go right outside, IE, with no wifi, would that make a difference? Do i need wifi/data/internet to get a good gps lock or for this app to work?
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You only need internet to download A-GPS data (gps assistance) and to download map info if you use Google maps and so on...going out side should help even though you have a glass roof there could be other interference maybe?
I'm no expert, it just seemed like after I moved around (went for a drive with one and wandered my back yard with the other) while using the app and got a bunch of SATs and fixes, It would then find and fix from inside when it wouldn't before.....I just tried again and got 6 SATs and 2 fix in 60 seconds inside. It wouldn't find more than 1 sat before I did the cold start reset and did the above....In maps it puts me across the street sometimes but its close (100ft.)
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Thanks,
Did as you said, reset GPS, went outside with the app running for about 40 minutes and was continuously 7 satellites found, 0 connected. Then just as I was nearly home it connected to 4 satellites. I kept it running and opened OsmAnd (offline) maps and it found where I was perfectly. Kept both running til I got home and got connected to my wifi. GPS status still has me connected, as does OsmAnd but google maps wont connect or find me. Now...... do I just leave/close the GPS status app as it is or do I need to now download aGPS data? Is there some way to 'store' the settings/locks it has now or do I just leave it and thats it now? As I dont have data outside, and my offline maps worked ok I dont really care about google maps to be honest, would just be nice if it did work.
But do I just leave it as it is now? or can I save something? or will downloading the aGPS remove the locks that just took me 40 odd minutes to find?
Thanks.
robneymcplum said:
Thanks,
Did as you said, reset GPS, went outside with the app running for about 40 minutes and was continuously 7 satellites found, 0 connected. Then just as I was nearly home it connected to 4 satellites. I kept it running and opened OsmAnd (offline) maps and it found where I was perfectly. Kept both running til I got home and got connected to my wifi. GPS status still has me connected, as does OsmAnd but google maps wont connect or find me. Now...... do I just leave/close the GPS status app as it is or do I need to now download aGPS data? Is there some way to 'store' the settings/locks it has now or do I just leave it and thats it now? As I dont have data outside, and my offline maps worked ok I dont really care about google maps to be honest, would just be nice if it did work.
But do I just leave it as it is now? or can I save something? or will downloading the aGPS remove the locks that just took me 40 odd minutes to find?
Thanks.
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It sounds like the GPS might just be on the weak side, I'm not sure..maybe if your using a case try without it?.....All this being said, I myself have noticed a weaker GPS since I've been using KK roms compared to to stock firmware. Thought it was the weather around here though, maybe not...
As far as the app goes, I'm pretty sure it loads in the background when you use the GPS, google maps and so on. I'm not sure it is doing anything to help at that point but it shows its icon in the status bar along with the gps icon. The icon animates when it finds sats and when it gets a fix as opposed to the GPS icon that just stops flashing when you have a fix....
I just set the app to get A-GPS info every day when I'm traveling. Anytime I have a problem with getting a fix for my nav app I just reset with the GPS Status app and it starts finding sats before I even re-download A-GPS data....
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It sounds like the GPS might just be on the weak side, I'm not sure..maybe if your using a case try without it?.....All this being said, I myself have noticed a weaker GPS since I've been using KK roms compared to to stock firmware. Thought it was the weather around here though, maybe not...
As far as the app goes, I'm pretty sure it loads in the background when you use the GPS, google maps and so on. I'm not sure it is doing anything to help at that point but it shows its icon in the status bar along with the gps icon. The icon animates when it finds sats and when it gets a fix as opposed to the GPS icon that just stops flashing when you have a fix....
I just set the app to get A-GPS info every day when I'm traveling. Anytime I have a problem with getting a fix for my nav app I just reset with the GPS Status app and it starts finding sats before I even re-download A-GPS data....
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I never even thought about the case.... I shall try without it on. If that makes no difference I'll go back to a stock backup I have which I know worked perfectly, just to check its not hardware related as mine too was better on non kitkat roms. And if all else fails, I'll just do what you say and set my phone to download aGPS every morning at home before I get up.
Ta.
It seems that you have the same issue I am facing. I suggest you to look at my post and follow it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/help/weak-gps-signal-hardware-fix-t2685439
You can try to follow the link attached on my post, where a small hardware modification is explained. Maybe this will help you.
For now, I'm planning to change a part (HP/antenna part) and will probably replace it this week-end (if received !). I will post news about that as soon as possible in my post
Good lock