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yeah sense is nice and all but IMO the new Froyo ui looks way better.
I'm sure they will come out with an updated version of sense that compliments froyo. Android was ugly (still is even with 2.1 for the most part) and sense made it more accessible for the average consumer. A lot of people hate on it, but it does end up making the end user experience more fun for me. Can't wait to try 2.2, plan on using vanilla for a while, until I see what HTC does with the next iteration of Sense.
No I mean get rid of it completely in my opinion it'snot very aesthetically pleasing and also it causes the phone's performance to go down.
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No I mean get rid of it completely in my opinion it'snot very aesthetically pleasing and also it causes the phone's performance to go down.
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Ask HTC? I dont see them abandoning sense cause google made android prettier.
I really cannot understand people's unbridled hate towards sense ui. everything HTC adds to the phone has been everything I wanted, and google eventually did themselves. facebook and twitter integration, the widgets they provide are awesome, and just in my personal opinion the design is a hell of a lot sleeker then vanilla.
like really, remove all the widgets from your home screen. what's different from stock android? the bart on the top is now black, and they added a phone button and a + button to add things to the desktop... 2.2 just added a phone button, and the + was there because let's face it, there are probably a great majority of android users out there that dont know you can long tap on the screen or hit menu. android really never makes it clear unless you find it on your own or read the manual (2.2 tells you how to do it now though). I'm not one to agree with WalkingTaco on most things, but he's right, sense makes things look better, and is really really more accessible to the general public.
and really? slows down the system? sure on 1.5 I disabled it most of the time, I was like you, I didnt really see the good in sense because of how slow it was at times, I replaced it with slide screen. but man... I went to leaked 2.1 and got over it. it's so fast and smooth, I honestly dont remember how bad it actually was on 1.5. then I replaced my phone and got root 2.1... even better, I love sense.
and really, I don't care about what most of sense does. my favorite parts? the favorites, clock, and friendstream widgets. facebook and twitter integration (before google ever added it!). more screens, and a dedicated phone button on the bottom. that's it. and I love it. now that the phone button is there in 2.2 and more screens have been added since 2.1, all I need are those beautiful widgets and I'll switch to vanilla android, till then, I love sense.
and really, all these people that are ..."boycotting" (in I guess some sense of the word) sense ui, do none of them know you can just disable sense and use stock android on the eris? without even flashing a rom. really. "OH NO! the status bar is still black instead of white! this simply wont do! boycott htc!" flash the white notification bar zip and get over yourselves. there: stock home on an eris.
I personally like sense UI as well. I think it adds a graphically pleasing environment. I love the Email widget they have as well as the clock. I have recently switched to tainted vanilla and I do realize the speed difference. EE 2.0.1 oc'd to 768 was getting 3.2~ MFLOPS but when switched to tainted vanilla I was getting 5.0-5.2~ oc'd to 768 with the Nexus live wallpaper. I would like the HTC clock and email widget in regular android lol.
So no I don't think they should get rid of it at all even with the decrease in speed, it just looks way nicer.
Id like to see an HTC vanilla version for the eris... How long would it take them to make one?
but really who else would use it but 10% of the users.
I don't believe HTC would ditch the Sense UI. It's part of the experience of buying an HTC device. And users have the ability to use the regular Android Home on their devices if they choose.
No I mean get rid of it completely in my opinion it'snot very aesthetically pleasing and also it causes the phone's performance to go down.
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Agreed I have never been a fan of sense. I much prefer vanilla.
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one good thing to look forward to of sense on 2.2 is a lot of what htc adds in to sense, is now built into android.
htc was the first with facebook integration into the contacts wit sense, and if you noticed, it slowed down the contacts/dialer/messaging a lot. in 2.1 facebook integration was built into android, and it worked flawlessly.
same thing now with flash support. htc's flash plaer was buggy yeah, but atleast we had it. I made a lot of droid/nexus friends jealous with my ability to play vimeo videos.
i think with 2.1 and ESPECIALLY 2.2 once it comes out, performance of sense is flawless. but if you dont like sense for just an aesthetic sense, yeah nothing's gonna change.
who knows? maybe HTC will give us full flash while 2.2 won't support it for our device? just a thought.
if sense is such a big problem with performance then DISABLE IT or download an app that disables it for you.
if you have no idea how to do either then obviously have no clue how to use the internet (google is your friend) or search the forums and therefore a smartphone may not be for you.
The Android OS and APPs available have no end to what you can do with the OS and Sense. Hell you can ROOT the d^mn device to do even more options to do whatever you pretty much want to do with it.
But to complain about how Sense does this or does that and we should do this and do that and tell google & htc this, that and WHO CARES!!!
we have devs hard @ work......working for free in most cases i mind you to help make our phones better. if you want something added/removed or anything for future use then toss some coin their way and i sure they'd be glad to put it first priority.
Hi, wasn't sure whether to post this here or in development, so feel free to move it if necessary
I'm currently running Villainrom 12 and love it, but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
I've noticed villain have now got a 2.2 ROM out, but my only worry is that it does not include Sense UI. Can someone please point out the main differences between having the Sense UI and not?
and possibly conclude with there opinion on whether i should stick with Sense, or bin it for the new improved 2.2 Rom...?
cheers for any advice.
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but I'm the type of person that Constantly likes to upgrade, and gets bored of things rather quickly.
cheers for any advice.
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I believe you've answered your own question
but while I'm always looking for something new, I also want it to be Improved .
Ive flashed many ROM's before (Mainly Villain) and all Include Sense, but just want some advice on whether I should switch.
just some opinions and maybe a comparison of features/usability would help.
Could even start a small debate about the 2 different types of ROM's .
I've tried different Roms since Sept 2009, but I've always found stock ones are the most stable. I'm currently using stock 2.1 found un villain forums with a2sd and root. Very fast and with sense. Vanilla Roms tend to drain the battery very quickly. I'm a very heavy phone user and at work coverage is poor. Try them out, you might disagree with me. Oh, and let's not compare specific Roms, they're too different to one another.
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I also get bored with certain ROMs quite quickly and am changing constantly. I started off with Sense and then moved to Vanilla, have been back to Sense and then back again. I'm currently running Vanilla as like the look and feel of it. However I am thinking of going back to Sense, once I can find a good theme as I personally dislike the stock Rosie theme. That's the one thing that puts me off. That said the integration with Facebook and the widgets are a big plus. I know there are other apps and Launchers out there that can do similar things but not quite sure the integration is as good.
Another thing is that Sense UI was designed for the Hero and that means that with a good sense ROM all the hardware works as it should, meaning the LEDs (for notifications). I find these don't work with Vanilla ROMs as yet, although they're getting there.
If you want a change from Villain check out SenseHero. It looks great and is very fast and stable. The guy who created it is currently working on a newer version also.
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Some genius has got to port the new sense ui over to the fascinate PLEASE!!!!
OMG ... someone actually likes Sense ?
Why not buy HTC?
I would love HTC Sense on my fascniate too. I came from an incredible and I miss it but the screen on the fascinate is just to hard to give up. Once i installed launcherpro i realized I could make this phone do what I want.
I had sense 2.5 on my Omnia i920 adn wouldn't mind seeing the sense interface on this beast...... You think anyone would be up for the challenge?
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Once we are able to compile a bootable kernel for our Fascinate and the 2.2 sourcecode becomes available, I will begin the porting of Sense with help of another dev who is doing the same thing for the Droid. But I will warn you, it will take awhile for it to happen due to the nature of Sense being so tightly integrated into the framework where the source code is not available.
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I'd love to see the new Sense Live Wallpaper.
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Once we are able to compile a bootable kernel for our Fascinate and the 2.2 sourcecode becomes available, I will begin the porting of Sense with help of another dev who is doing the same thing for the Droid. But I will warn you, it will take awhile for it to happen due to the nature of Sense being so tightly integrated into the framework where the source code is not available.
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yeah, i remember we tried for a good 3 months on the droid1 but never really fixed everything, and the project died out. Good luck, in my mind its not worth it at all.
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yeah, i remember we tried for a good 3 months on the droid1 but never really fixed everything, and the project died out. Good luck, in my mind its not worth it at all.
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Yeah, but I want to instead of just making a stripper ROM like everyone else and plus it will be fun. The biggest task is the Radio or RIL code because once that is done, everything will come naturally with patches. The good thing thou is we will be getting a lil help from the RIL master Vilord who originally made one for a WinMo port of Sense Android for the old HTC XV6900.
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yeah im a huge fan of sense ui. I personally think stock android is bland looking. I love the speed of launcherpro.....but those fake sense ui widgets kill me.
the new sense ui is amazing people!!
I too love sense. I have the incredible now, my first sense phone, and I think it is the best phone I have ever had (Captivate, Droid X, Droid, Droid2, and allot more). I am considering returning it for the fascinate though, the screen is just too hard to type on with the incredible. The 4" fascinate screen should be just about perfect though. I am still leary after the horrible experience with the captivate on AT&T though. The fascinate has the best looking hardware out though. Would love to have the option to put sense on it.
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yeah im a huge fan of sense ui. I personally think stock android is bland looking. I love the speed of launcherpro.....but those fake sense ui widgets kill me.
the new sense ui is amazing people!!
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fake? they work just as well, supported, and constantly updated by the developer.
The only thing I would take from the *new* sense is that 3 second boot up time. The rest of sense is UGH.
I can say that Sense is GREAT for people who just want a simple phone, its straight forward. Whenever a casual phone user asks for a recommendation, I recommend them an HTC phone or the iPhone.
I think the best bet is to use launcher pro plus and beautiful widgets. I imagine it won't be too long before someone makes a skin similar to the new sense look.
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Samsung Fascinate + LauncherPro Plus + Beautiful Widgets = Epic Android awesomeness, no need for Sense UI. Note that I used to be a huge fan of Sense UI. It's just not worth it due to the ridiculous amount of system resources it takes. After loading a non-Sense (no pun intended) Froyo ROM on my Eris, and got a HUGE boost in battery life, I realized just how badly Sense UI was draining the system, and that's likely why the Incredible has such bad battery life too. And even before switching to Froyo, while still running stock Eclair with Sense, I switched to LauncherPro, and immediately got a boost in performance. You won't notice the lag on the Incredible, due to the fast processor, but I'm guessing it's still a CPU hog underneath, which drains the battery fast.
Funny how my last post got removed...haha dont tell me this forum is practicing censorship all because I have an opinion?
Mine was deleted also??? Hmm? I simply recomended a widget that replicates the Sense clock/weather widget. I didn't know that was a crime.
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Funny how my last post got removed...haha dont tell me this forum is practicing censorship all because I have an opinion?
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When was it posted? everything that was posted and uploaded around yesterday was deleted due to a failed xda system maintenance.
Highly doubt anything in this section gets moderated.
Okay. I didn't know that. The widget I suggested was Fancy Widget. It is identical to the HTC Sense clock/weather widget. This plus launcher pro plus does the trick for me.
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Yea lets get moto blur ported over too. Lol jk no on blur. But seriously I would donate for the hd on the fascinate, hell I would donate for vanilla froyo!
Shameless bump. I'd love to see sense on my Fascinate. I've loved SenseUI for ever, just seems like the perfect configuration.
I'm really disappointed by the lack of themes for MT4G. I'm looking for a 'stock-ish' green Android, or even better, something with some Gingerbread elements, theme. There's one out there called Androidian http://bit.ly/eL7Q29 which is great except I'm not really feeling the circuit board-like effect.
Any suggestions, or devs willing to take something on?
Thanks
I like that theme that u linked =)
but true, there should be alot more MT4G themes to choose from by now =(...someone should make some!
No one seems to care for the espresso running on stock. Theres plenty themes for cm6 and the full sense roms. Just not in this thread. I'm running a gingerbread theme now on cm6 from the nexus section
if you want more themes, simple....make em. Devs make themes and roms on their time. Go up to a dev and tell them why they havent done a rom or to make you a theme and see what they say. They take time off their job, families, and life to make our phones better. Don't be questioning why they aren't producing. They spend hours on end with no expectations of money to make a better android experience for users. You should think before you question about the lack of mt4g development
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Hello there!! I wanted to make this poll to see what the fellow users here in the Amaze forums prefer, Sense or AOSP.
On one hand, we have the original, pure, vanilla android interface. Simple, nothing so complicated and still, yet to come the Amaze, "the pure Google experience". There is no rom that is FULLY stock, with the exception of BeastMOD and SenseLess which are almost de-sensed completely.
And on the other, we have the long running Sense, courtesy of HTC. With lots of eye candy, lots of widgets, and an obsession with weather, Sense is very diverse and customizable. One of the latest versions of it, 3.0, is included with the Amaze, and most of the custom roms for it are Sense.
Many people, love sense, others hate it and prefer AOSP over it. So, its simple, choose your preferred interface, and leave a comment of you want xD
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I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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My sentiments exactly
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My sentiments exactly
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Very valid point,
here's my view
I happen to like HTC since i loved my nexus one, and I bought this phone mainly for it's camera, nothing else is like it on T-mobile right now. I neither hate fan nor like it there are parts of it I like and parts I don't. I bought the SGSII first and hated it, I hated the screen resolution and how big it was...this phone just felt good...Sometimes even if you don't like sense, there are no other options, every individual wants something different and not all cellphones deliver everything in one package. I was initially waiting for the galaxy nexus and just got tired of waiting. I hated the pentile screen when I looked at it in the store (even If I ordered over seas) NO dedicated camera button, this is what I really wanted. I also wanted a 720p screen like the rezound, If I could I would get the rezound, but it doesn't have dedicated camera buttons and I want that. it has the same exact camera as the amaze. a 720p screen on a 4.3 inch screen which gives better dpi than the retina display...But I have no choice, I'm not going to pay 180 monthly just to get that phone...right now I pay 60 bucks on a shared plan and get unlimited everything with 5 gigs of unthrotled data. I also like this about android and like things about the iphone, I can't have it all in one package.
I use locker widget, and adw launcher and I'm happy with it...I do not hate the sense launcher, or the lockscreen, I just prefer my own customization. I love what they've done with their camera app. I like their calendar application. I like their parts of their contact and dialer app and hate parts of it.
I talk too much!!!
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For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
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Peoples always wanted what they don't/can't have. Simple
I myself love to have a Sense Rom mainly due to its lock screen and weather widget and a few more stuff but also running ADW so I can switching back and forth every other week or so
Personally I think Sense based Rom give me more options. If tired of looking at Sense, switch to other launcher and apps or vice versa whereas ASOP based wouldn't let me have Sense stuff if I so desired
Just because a phone comes with Sense doesn't mean it's the main attraction of the device. Did people buy the Samsung Galaxy S2 for TouchWiz? I sure hope not. There are other features of a product that convince people to purchase it. Specs, look and feel, cost-efficiency, and availability all factor in and affect this. The Amaze happens to feel like a really premium product with high end specs to boast. It also happens to come with Sense.
I don't hate Sense, but I just find it to be too non-customizable and would always use a third party launcher like ADW Launcher or Go Launcher anyway, so Sense means little to me.
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Peoples always wanted what they don't/can't have. Simple
I myself love to have a Sense Rom mainly due to its lock screen and weather widget and a few more stuff but also running ADW so I can switching back and forth every other week or so
Personally I think Sense based Rom give me more options. If tired of looking at Sense, switch to other launcher and apps or vice versa whereas ASOP based wouldn't let me have Sense stuff if I so desired
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ya me and you have the same kind of "sense" about this stuff, no pun inteded!!!!
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ya me and you have the same kind of "sense" about this stuff, no pun inteded!!!!
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Then go ahead and have your vote
I sense garbage.
This is my second htc sense phone.
You like sense until you try something else for a while.. Then you can't stand it.
We all have our own opinions.. It's fine, but for me it's a nice eye candy developed system that I can not stand and can't wait for cm7, 9 or something else.
Also a reason why I have adw launcher.
Talking of CM I kinda missed it alot.
Many great features: crt built-in, toggle widgets on top of pull-down notification panel, brightness adjust by sliding the status bar ect ... And separate lock screen wallpaper
Too many customization Sense lack
I switched back to sense for the beats audio
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People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
First, thanks for fixing my thread. And second, I prefer sense, altough I can live with Aosp.
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People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
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I voted for Sense and I think that I have a bit of experience with AOSP.
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First, thanks for fixing my thread. And second, I prefer sense, altough I can live with Aosp.
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No problem.
I like sense, I like AOSP, just depends on how I feel that day. With all the themes, Roms, tweaks and different launchers, we can pretty much do what we prefer on any given day. I still have a cliq lol running 2.3.4 gingerbread aosp, a HD2 running Sergios core cell rom, and my "NEW" Amaze stock, patiently waiting for new developement.
Sense has great eye-candy and great integrated apps which is my kind of thing. like the built in task manager, built in social media, built in music player. its all better than stock IMO. Stock gets boring to me for some reason
I personally have no problem with sense, it's just the size, I like using my system partition for apps, but I do like the facebook and tight music control integration!
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I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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+1...... Sense is one of the biggest reasons I only buy HTC phones
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+1...... Sense is one of the biggest reasons I only buy HTC phones
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I wouldnt say the biggest reason for me, i love sense but i also love HTCs build quality and such
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People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
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lol I had a HD2 for well over a year before getting my amaze I have flashed pretty much everything under the sun, and I still prefer sense based roms.