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Does anyone know if the car charger for P3300, P3600, HTC Tytn, HTC Tytn II fits our TC?
It's somehow weird that the connection socket on the TC doesn't look like Standard MiniUSB but the cables originally provided are all standard MiniUSB !
This original universal car charger from HTC is known as HTC Car charger CC100 and fits all smartphones mentionned.
eurofan said:
Does anyone know if the car charger for P3300, P3600, HTC Tytn, HTC Tytn II fits our TC?
It's somehow weird that the connection socket on the TC doesn't look like Standard MiniUSB but the cables originally provided are all standard MiniUSB !
This original universal car charger from HTC is known as HTC Car charger CC100 and fits all smartphones mentionned.
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I don't know much about car chargers but if all they do is charge then the connectors should be compatible. Physical compatibility of actually getting the unit into the cradle is another matter though.
The connection socket on the TC is called extUSB (which I think might be proprietary to HTC) but it is physically based on the miniUSB connector and this is why a standard miniUSB cable will plug into a TC and how you can charge it and ActiveSync it off your PC.
The main row of pins are identical for both the miniUBS and extUSB connectors so when you plug a miniUSB plug into the extUSB socket on the TC then the TC will see the power lines and the data in/out lines exactly where it expects them and this is enough for charging and syncing.
The ext bit in extUSB is that HTC has added an extra row of pins to the connector in addition to the standard miniUSB pins. These extra pins are for the headphone channels, the mic input (which doubles as the FM aerial) and the talk/hangup switch.
Here is a link to the pinout: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
I think this pinout is constant across HTC devices (at least fairly recent ones). I can certainly confirm that my Artemis wired headset works with my TC.
- Julian
I'm using a 5-year old Motorola MpX200 car charger with my Touch Cruise. Works like a charm So I guess any generic miniUSB charger will do the job.
TheOnly1 said:
I'm using a 5-year old Motorola MpX200 car charger with my Touch Cruise. Works like a charm So I guess any generic miniUSB charger will do the job.
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I can confirm that too... all standard minUSB car chargers work flawlessly with Polaris.
I bought the HTC Car Safety Pack this morning. For 65,- EUR I got a the car charger with MiniUSB (standard on all recent HTC models), window mounting kit + TC holder, HTC BH M200 Bluetooth headset + accessories .... and a yellow safety jacket !!!
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Yes the O2 supplied car charger that I used on my Orbit 1 works fine
Does somebody know where to get a car charger which can get the power from behind the dashboard (using 2 wires to connect) instead of the cigarette lighter?
I don't like the wires hanging in front of my dashboard nor the large cigarette plug. Have googled around but can't find anything.
Alex,
I visited Halfords recently and asked that question. They will build it in behind the dashboard for about 30 euros. Any 12V extUSB/miniUSB carcharger will work as long as the output is 5V.
kwabbernootje said:
Alex,
I visited Halfords recently and asked that question. They will build it in behind the dashboard for about 30 euros. Any 12V extUSB/miniUSB carcharger will work as long as the output is 5V.
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Kwabbernootje,
I visit Halfords (in Verray) yesterday and they have no clue about the service you mentioned. Halfords appears to be split into own affiliates and franchisers.
Where is the Halfords shop located that offers the service you mentioned?
motorola charcher
i was in the mornig whith my phone provider and he confirm that motorola miniUSB car charger do the work as fine as the original.
Since HTC Dream isn't for sale here, no accessories are marked to be Dream compatible. There's however lots of Touch (and other HTC models) accessories available. Is it safe to assume that anything that fits the Mini USB of a Touch also works with the Dream? More specifically, chargers (mains and car).
/Mats
I've used the same mini-USB cable to charge my PS3 controller, my G1, and other devices.
I've personally used, g1 charger, g1 usb cable, BB charger, BB usb cable, moto RAZR charger, standard mini usb.... all of the above are 5V usb spec... only diff for the wall chargers is the aperage...
If your referring to other attachments such as speaker dongles and the like I would venture to say so since the port on the g1 is titled extUSB same as many other HTC phones
Nice - Just what I wanted to hear. Now I can go buy that HTC Touch/TyTN/et al car charger I found at a local shop, and plug it in with confidence. Thanks to all who have responded.
/Mats
ZilverZurfarn said:
Nice - Just what I wanted to hear. Now I can go buy that HTC Touch/TyTN/et al car charger I found at a local shop, and plug it in with confidence. Thanks to all who have responded.
/Mats
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I tried the USB to 3.5 mm adapter, with controls for a handsfree and music (call, end call, mute, hold, play, stop, volume...) that came with my HTC Tytn II, and the G1 didn't react to it...
blazzr said:
I tried the USB to 3.5 mm adapter, with controls for a handsfree and music (call, end call, mute, hold, play, stop, volume...) that came with my HTC Tytn II, and the G1 didn't react to it...
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I used the same MicroUSB to 3.5MM adapter that came with the G1 on my HTC Touch and it worked fine.. it didn't work on my BlackBerry 8830 however, but that one has a 2.5MM headphone out along with a USB out, which i can assume for file transfer.
How big of a difference does the amperage make in temrs of battery life ?
Ex 1 charger I have is 200mah the other 500mah.
Ill assume charging speeds will be different but will this cause any additional wear and tear on battery ?
I wish we had the same thing up in Canada, the Rogers Dream comes with its own proprietary USB dongle on the bottom. So when I lost my phone wall charger I am doomed to PC only charging.
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...but will this cause any additional wear and tear on battery ?
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It shouldn't. Anything with a LiIon battery needs a charge controller. The controller's sole job is to monitor the temperature and charge rate as the battery charges and keep it within a certain range. That's why "Battery Info" in spare parts shows the temperature.
It doesn't matter if you're charging from a USB A-to-miniB cable since the G1 will limit the power draw from the charger to 500mA unless the charger has some pins shorted in the USB connector.
Does anyone know if the MiniUSB port on the Dream supports a power OUT function? We are brainstorming ideas on getting flash (as in camera flash) onto the phone, and one idea is with an LED connected to the MiniUSB port
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Does anyone know if the MiniUSB port on the Dream supports a power OUT function? We are brainstorming ideas on getting flash (as in camera flash) onto the phone, and one idea is with an LED connected to the MiniUSB port
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Nope, no power available there. Why not hack it into an extended battery cover? There's lots of room to work, and you could even tap into the battery directly. Just watch out for shorting the battery terminals unless you like your G1 extra crispy.
im moving from my ATT Tilt to the HTC Tilt2, and was wondering if the wall and car chargers from the origional tilt would be compatable with the tilt2?
i hope so, both being HTC products and all, but not sure because of the larger battery size of the tilt2, and if there is a difference in the volt/amp on the chargers...
if this has already been asked, im sorry, i couldnt find it.
No its not the plug is a l ittle different....
I'm using the wall charger that came from my HTC Hermes (AT&T 8525) with my Tilt2 and it's working fine. Also the USB cable/cigarette lighter combo that I used with my Tilt is working fine on the Tilt2.
This charger also worked with the Tilt as well.
Mini-USB has certain restrictions on how much the device can draw in terms of voltage and amps, these restrictions are put in place mainly to prevent USB devices from drawing too much power from PCs (mainly laptops, which may be running off of a battery).
Long story short, yes, your Tilt2 should work fine with the Tilt charger, assuming that they didn't put something extra on the plug (I've never even taken my Tilt charger out of the box).
-- Joe
Same here, since the TyTN, they all take MiniUSB 1Amp chargers. External battery chargers are a different thing however...
I'm using the charger that came with my Wizard since my unbranded phone came with the European charger and a honkin big adapter.
I have 3 HTC phones and all the chargers work with each phone and don't seem to have more or less a charge time. Most mini usb plugs will work with any HTC phone. I have the Tilt, Fuze and Tilt 2.
Yes it should work
thanx all, when i got home i actually looked at the specs on the chanrgers input and output and they were identical
i just didnt care for the charger that came with the tilt2, as a 3 piece unit vs the 1 piece tilt charger that also has a much longer cord...
I use my older wall charger and car charger from my Tilt on my Tilt2, and they both work fine.
I'm with you, I don't like the modular design of the newer wall charger. The old one is simple, and I like that. Seems like HTC was just cheaping out by using the same cord for both the wall charger and phone-to-USB. I've been using the cord to hook up the phone to my PC. But the charger part has not left the plastic bag it came in.
I'd call it Apple'ing up rather than cheaping out. The new charger is a lot like the iPhone's with it's usb/plug-in config... I willl say this, then yield to experts. I've noticed some disconnects while using the old cable for tethering that i do not observe while using the new cable. Could be my specific cables as they are old but I am using the new stuff and even considering buying an AC adapter and a couple new cables with the new plug.
I have been searching high and low for a good international USB charger for my TP2 (and other devices). I've found several, but reviews tend to be either mixed or non-existent.
My dream gizmo is something very compact and lightweight that can be jammed into almost any wall outlet in the world, which I can then plug a USB cable into and charge my TP2 (and ideally other stuff which can be charged with a standard USB cable).
Do any of you fine forum folks have suggestions? Or at least warnings for which products to avoid?
Well, when I travel I have a universal travel adaptor (ie it can fit into any power plug), and I plug into that the USB charger that came from HTC. Or I charge from my laptop.
HTC itself sells an international charger kit, but if you're going to multiple countries, it just means extra weight.
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Well, when I travel I have a universal travel adaptor (ie it can fit into any power plug), and I plug into that the USB charger that came from HTC. Or I charge from my laptop.
HTC itself sells an international charger kit, but if you're going to multiple countries, it just means extra weight.
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Just about any USB charger that has a 5.0V output should do fine. I use the same one that charges my iPod to charge various gadgets.
I picked up a nice one on one of Cathy Pacific's flights. They also sell them on their site.
http://www.cathaypacific.com/shop/c...riaType=category&criteria=Travel+Accessories#
Oh! I also have iGO laptop charger and various adapters. iGo works great.
http://www.igo.com/?gclid=CM-sr_GL954CFR4vagodU2RV4g
I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
Jaxidian said:
This cable works although it seems to have gone out of stock.
COOYA OnePlus 6 Dash Type-C Charger Cable, 5V 4A Dash Charge USB C Cable Charging Rapidly, Braided USB Type C Fast Charger Cable Dash Charging for OnePlus 5T, OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3T, OnePlus 3 (6.6FT) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F3DYDC7
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I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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I have some coming in the mail as we speak - I will let you know once I get them tested. There are supposedly some signaling differences between different OP versions, which may require a new adapter.
My take is that none of the WEB- adapters (on eBay) would work with the 6T, since that manufacturer is already selling a specialized adapter for OP beyond or equals to 5T. The WEB- adapters, however, offer a wider range of fast charge protocols as opposed to the YZXStudio adapter, which supports only VOOC-DASH. The YZXStudio adapter also has a current cap, which you can slightly adjust by soldering pins on the adapter itself. You are unlikely to get the full benefit of DASH from the YZXStudio adapter because of this cap, although your Quick Charge chargers most likely will be the limiting factor. Also note that the WEB- adapters require an input of at least 10 or so volts, so their A2A adapters will automatically request QC2/3 @ 12V. If your adapter does not support 12V, then it would not work properly. Your adapter should at least output 12V @ 1.5A for it to be any good after conversion losses.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
chowfun said:
I think the OP is trying to avoid using OP specific cables but rather use a QC2/3-DASH adapter and a normal USB-C cable for charging the phone. That said, aftermarket cables are not that expensive on AliExpress, eBay, or even Amazon. Although if you insist, I would encourage that you get heavier gauge USB cables for this...
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Oh, then I misunderstood something. I did read it quickly.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
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Thank you for the information. Please let me know what you can find. I do have QC adapters that support 12V. If there're adapters that works, I rather buy those instead of investing in new bricks, cables, car chargers, battery packs,... My other devices either support QC or PD. Investing in Dash charger doesn't make any sense at all.
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I hear you - I did buy a multifunction car charger that supports both QC3.0 and DASH - I will report whether that works when it comes (hopefully later in the week if not the following week). I have also gotten the specialized versions from WEB- in China so once I get those I will let you know.
So I got one of the adapters today - this is an older version that does DC to Type C, so I did not expect it to work (even though it specifically listed VOOC and DASH support - maybe it worked for an older OP version).
This one was from eBay, and supposedly the seller sent me the wrong item (WEB- makes a 12V and a 20V PD version - and instead of the 20V version they sent me the 12V version instead - which can only decrease voltage due to the builtin buck converter inside).
So the question is - does it work with DASH charging? --- No, it did not. However, it is still an interesting adapter because it has broad fast charge technology support. They market this little adapter to convert your "dumb" laptop charger into a "multifunctional charger."
Interesting facts:
1. This adapter requires 12V for it to function. It does start turning on at around 11V or so, and anything below that will cause the output to shut off and the operation light to go red. The USB to USB version automatically requests QC @ 12V, but obviously, this cannot be done on a DC jack (on this particular version).
2. As soon as the voltage going in exceeds 11.5V, the output turns on with a steady blue status indication.
3. The USB-C version of this adapter supports USB-C Power Delivery (PD2.0) with three selectable voltages 5.00V @ 3.03A, 9.00V @ 2.39A, 12.00V @ 2.31A (there is a 20V version that supposedly does 15 and 20V as well for laptops, but the seller sent me the wrong version).
4. The input side is a 5.5 x 2.5 DC jack, which is somewhat odd as an input because most input jacks use the smaller 5.5 x 2.1 jack (you can use an adapter on it, however).
5. You can see from the tester that this adapter supports pretty much everything, except VOOC/DASH and 20V QC and AFC 12V.
6. QC 2.0 9V engages just fine to charge my older Nexus 6 via a USB-C to USB-A adapter (since the D+/D- lines are intact).
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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I have a ton of Qualcomm quick chargers and I'm not feeling this Dash charge with its special cable restriction. I saw this adapter and from the reddit posts, it seems to work well. It even works with normal USB Type C cable. Does anyone have experience with it and the 6T?
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=SFC+AFC+VOOC+SCP&_sacat=0
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I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
thomast said:
I bought the first one and tried in my car yesterday. With the cable come with OP6T, the DASH charging works! It shows charging rapidly. Cool!
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
chowfun said:
I do have more adapters coming in soon so I will let you know how they go once they come in (including the WEB- VOOC/DASH specialized USB-USB adapter). This particular version may be a fun adapter to play with, although it won't really help with DASH charging on the OnePlus.
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Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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Nice. Can you link to the exact one that you bought? For it work with non dash cable?
Wow. Thanks for the info. It looks like a good replacement for the Macbook 12 30W adapter. :laugh:
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The seller is resending me the 20V version - will let you know how that goes
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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dermotti said:
Just using anker usb3.0 cables i had from a previous phone. Dont really need to dash charge, this phone seems fast enough.
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Thanks for letting us know but what point are you trying to make? :silly:
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Lol somehow i posted in the wrong thread. Meant to post in the "what usbc are you using for your oneplus"
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Here's an update on the car adapter I have received. Note that the other adapters are still on the slow boat so I will get to them when they arrive. This isn't necessarily what you are after, but nonetheless, it's another interesting toy. If you are interested, it can be found on AliExpress under item number 32916499372.
This is a car charger that accepts 12-24V input, and also supposedly supports multiple fast charging technologies (DASH, VOOC, QC, etc). It comes with an "original" (questionable - but capable of 3.5A charge) DASH cable which is not bad at all for about $13.
Interesting facts:
1) The car charger comes with dual USB ports. One "quick charge" port and one "standard" port. The quick charge port lights up red on one side and the blue indicates the normal charge port. Some may like that it lights up, but my thought is that it's a waste of energy.
2) The Quick Charge port supports all available quick charge methods (the VOOC-DASH section don't light up probably because it doesn't use the same protocol for unblocking DASH charging that the original charger requires).
3) The charger does not require an ID chip on the USB-C cable (unlike the stock charger), which means you can use any USB-A to USB-C cable on the market to activate DASH charging (as long as the D+/D- pins are not shorted out). This car charger doesn't even have the odd PIN in the back of the USB connector for the ID communication.
4) The car charger is not as fast as the stock wall charger, which charges around 3.5A. Here are the test comparisons (allow some current variances due to battery percentage ~70-72% - note all of them had the lightning bolt on the charging indicator which indicated that DASH was indeed activated with none of these cables having D+/D- shorted):
a) Normal, 1 ft USB-A to C Cable: 2.46A
b) Bundled DASH cable, w/ car charger: 2.73A
c) Bundled DASH cable, w/ stock wall charger: 3.5A
d) Normal, 3 ft (Rankie) USB C Cable: 2.56A
e) Normal, 3 ft MicroUSB w/ USB-C Adapter (ANKER): 1.95A
f) Normal, 3 ft multi (MicroUSB + Type C) free conference charging cable: 1.32A (this one did not "pass" the fast charging test because the current is below 1.5A but nonetheless it triggered DASH charging).
Not a big difference if you use quality cables, although don't expect it to charge as fast as the wall charger - nonetheless, it is still doing pretty well with less heat generated due to lesser current.
5) As mentioned previously, the charger supports multiple charging technologies besides DASH, where it activated QC 2.0 9V on my Nexus 6 just fine.
6) Since this adapter allows 12-24V DC input, you can use a DC to lighter adapter to power this device (as you can see in my screenshots I used a laptop battery pack and a 12V router wall brick and it was able to turn on and charge my devices just fine.) This may also be a good way to have a longer reach charging solution since DASH is very cable sensitive and it is best to keep the cable length short to minimize the reduction in charging currents.
Here's a test of the 100 cm noodle cable on AliExpress (item 32806193071):
Using the stock wall charger, charging the phone @ ~50%:
The genuine OnePlus cable was able to charge at 3.657A @ 4.69V (17.15W).
The noodle cable on AliExpress was able to charge at 3.617A @ 4.81V (17.4W).
Based on the results, it seemed like the quality was as good as the genuine cable, at least the copper that is carrying the power to the phone.
Here are the test results of the final adapter I received from WEB- (the specialized VOOC-DASH version - Taobao Item #560336325713):
Stuff to note:
1) This adapter is very similar to the car adapter, in which it supports pretty much all quick charge technologies and it does not require the OnePlus ID chip to activate DASH charging. However, this adapter is QC activated and has a USB-A input interface. Like the car charger, this charger is also not as fast as the stock wall brick, although it is still relatively quick.)
2) The USB pinout schematic also looks the same as the car charger (USB 2.0 with no dangling USB 3.0 pin in the back for ID chip identification).
3) Like the other 12V based WEB- adapters, this one uses the IP6518C chipset, which supports a wide voltage input (10.5V - 32V - from the chipset datasheet).
4) The board looks fairly similar to the USB-C board, except this one has a USB-A input (which is interesting because the board has the DC 12V-24V marking on it still).
5) The board also has the POW and OK lights similar to the USB-C version.
6) Since the board accepts broad input voltages, it is not required to use QC for the input voltage. A USB-A to 5.5 x 2.1 adapter could be used to also provide the DC input, as long as the voltage is above 10.5V.
7) Although the board indeed supports down stepping a 20V DC input, it seems like it is a bit less efficient in doing so than a 12V input.
8) Similar to the previous cable tests, the quality and the length of the cable really makes a difference. The shorter and the better quality cable that is used, the better the charging rate (remember that an official cable does not need to be used for third-party chargers).
9) As mentioned previously, this charger supports other fast charging technologies, like QC2.0 - which works fine in charging my Nexus 6 at 9V.
10) This charger / adapter essentially allows any 12V @ 1.5A output to be a multifunction fast charger w/ DASH support. In my example, I used a Xiaomi router wall brick (12 V @ 1.5A DC) and it charges my phone using DASH at almost 3A output using a short 1ft USB-C cable! (the phone registers the current slightly lower at around 2750mA).
Great info, @chowfun. I was able to purchase 2 OPPO wall chargers from Asia and a 3rd party VOOC car charger which work great.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78182174&postcount=24
I also got the same oneplus flat cable but 150cm length. It works good with no notable slow down.
From your findings, it looks like the WEB- adapter charge slower but that's still plenty fast and much more convenience. :good: Does it generate a lot of heat when charging a low battery?
Nice keyboard, I like it. ?
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I didn't get that one because it had a lower current rating and that the top of the charger is wider than the other one I bought. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those chargers?
Heat wise, it does generate a bit of heat with the conversion. But given that the adapter is housed in an aluminum case it's to be expected. It feels just slightly warm to the touch, but not exactly hot to the touch. Instead of that conversion being done in the phone it's just being done outside the phone which is directing the heat away from the battery...
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Nice keyboard, I like it.
That said, the Quick9 charger you bought probably does not require the ID chip as far as DASH is concerned. I doubt the OPPO charger would work with a regular microUSB cable since I presume that it also requires the chip on the cable end... Did you also see what kind of maximum currents you are seeing on those charges?
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LOL. My wife doesn't like those RGB lights. lol
The input and output of the OPPO charger look exactly the same as the 1+ charger. It's pretty much identical except for the cosmetic (logo, prints, the USB A female is green). They're selling for $4.