[14/2] Opera 10 Thread - Which Opera 10 Improvements do we want? - Windows Mobile Apps and Games

Thankfully, XDA-developers is the biggest WinMo forum in the world. that being said, we also have an immense effect on how the WinMo world looks like.
Opera proved themselves many times bringing us great browsers.
we have some problems with opera 10 not being a perfect browser right?
let's collect all improvement ideas/changes/concepts which come to mind and i'm pretty much certain they'll do whatever they can to give us what we want.
Just post what's on your mind and i'll collect it and put it here (I'd appreciate it if you posted the suggestion itself in a different color).

Nice initiative, and if perhaps we can't get Opera to make some changes to version 10, perhaps it will stimulate programmers at xda to write custom hacks for the new browser series.
1) Zoom slider like in 9.5 and 9.7 browsers. With this obviously comes pinch to zoom support on the HD2.
2) New options: enable text reflow, enable text reflow only when zoomed in, disable text reflow
3) Snapping to columns of text when doing vertical scrolling.
4) Option to display the windows taskbar when browsing, except in fullscreen mode.
5) Show downloading speed for file downloads.
6) Option to display a www homepage as the start page, instead of the 9 quick links.
7) Some implementation of the visual back feature like in recent 9.7 builds. It has to work smoother and prettier than in those builds though.
8) Option to FORCE sites to ALWAYS go to the full desktop version. No more user agent hacking.
9) Better rendering of images (images often appear in low quality even though turbo mode is off).
10) Better javascript and ajax support (for example it doesn't render Gmail with all features like chat and themes enabled).
11) Option to open new tabs in the background.

Opening tabs in the background is a must. I rage when I am browsing and trying to open a group of news articles i want to read and I have to keep hitting buttons to get back to the main page to let the things i want to read load in the background.

Text select, copy, & paste is there but it simply does not work properly.
It's should work fluently!
Image quality even in turbo mode should be better.

I've posted directly in the Opera Mobile 10 beta 2 blog post before, but I guess they don't really read it -_-...
Anyways (besides the other suggestions mentioned):
1) Full HTML 5 support so we can use the mobile Google Buzz and Mail webpages that iPhone and Android users can enjoy on their webkit browsers.
2) Automatic zoom-to-fit webpage (or a #$(*&# zoom slider). It's annoying having mobile webpages rendered and not filling the entire screen.

text size adjust?

1.) Zoom does not work in landscape correctly
2.) Zoom slider like in 9.5 and 9.7 browsers. With this obviously comes pinch to zoom support on the HD2.
3.) Option to display the windows taskbar when browsing, except in fullscreen mode.
4.) Fix text input problem, it lag's like hell when I am typing smth!
5.) Better rendering of images (images often appear in low quality even though turbo mode is off).

I'll add flash integration (I know beta 3 has flash support) and divx web player intergration.
Cheers

btw the new beta3 is more buggy then beta 2 WHY ?

JaCoL_JcL said:
btw the new beta3 is more buggy then beta 2 WHY ?
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Not in my experience.

When scrolling, I want to have the possibility to scroll up/down OR left/right. Not both at the same time.

JaCoL_JcL said:
btw the new beta3 is more buggy then beta 2 WHY ?
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not for me too... opera mobile 10 beta 3 is much more stable and faster then beta 2.

Fingertouch
I'd like Fingertouch to finally be implemented in the WinMo version. It really would help me hit those tiny links on my QVGA touchscreen.
If you don't know what fingertouch is, look here:
(This was originally a link to operas fingertouch press release, but since I'm not allowed to post links , you'll just have to google it.)
If it is already out there, I wasn't able to find it.

It shouldn't require 2xclicks on the red cross to close a tab button and 3x just to get to Bookmarks from viewing a web page!
Just my 2 cents.

pinch zoom for my hd2

FLASH SUPPORT!!!! Skyfire is kicking Operas ass right now

For me the browser of my dreams would be :
Opera Mini 5, but including Flash...
I find Opera Mini so fast and convenient compared to Opera Mobile...

ov2rey said:
not for me too... opera mobile 10 beta 3 is much more stable and faster then beta 2.
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I would have to agree with you. I am very happy with beta3.

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good browser

is there actally any decent browser for the hd2? opera is gennerally easier to use than explorer but doesn't work flash then theres drop down menus which is just a complete ball ache on both as there's no propper way of making a selection or with other scroll bars you have to zoom in on the little arrow and click a million times.
try skyfire
skyfire not longer available in my country
Try this........
harky said:
skyfire not longer available in my country
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Sorry, I just realised what you mean by that.
For anyone whos interested.......
I hope they bring out a 2.0 that you'll be able to use....
I quite like this browser...... itd be a shame if they killed it off.........
not a bad browser but would be nice if it supported multiple tabs and pinch zooming.
why don't they just make it where of you touch a scroll bar in a page it just moves that instead of the whole page?
what's with the little arrow and hand in the top right aswell?

full version of web page?

I'm new to android and I can't figure out how to view the full version of a web page and not the mobile version. Can someone please help me out, i'd appreciate it.
clivo360 said:
I'm new to android and I can't figure out how to view the full version of a web page and not the mobile version. Can someone please help me out, i'd appreciate it.
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Usually you can type about:debug into the address bar and hit enter. This opens up several new options in settings. Scroll near the bottom, choose uastring or something similar (not looking at the phone atm) and you should have the option to choose "Desktop".
Oddly, everytime I have attempted this on the stock browser in the Vibrant it will force close everytime it starts. Not sure if it's unique to the Vibrant in general or mine specifically so maybe wait and see if anyone has had better luck before giving it a shot.
Download the "Skyfire" from the market, and at set it to "Desktop" mode, which can be found at the menu at the top of the browser.
Works for me...
Dolphin Browser
Dolphin Browser HD shows full desktop by default and allows you to view pages in mobile format. It's an excellent tabbed browser with gesture support.
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/dolphin-browser-hd_gskf.html

Question: How to scroll a complex webpage

Hello all,
I'm new here. First post. I hope someone can help me out, please.
I'm looking at a complex web page which has a section on one side which scrolls information in contrast to the main page area which remains static. When I touch the screen and move my finger, it just moves the entire page up, as though it is all one static image.
What setting do I need to change or what add-on do I need to download to allow it to see all the information in this scroll?
The website ends in ".jsp" if that helps...
All help is greatfully appreciated!
Recheck, if javascript is enabled in options(icon top right)>settings>advanced
Try changing UID ( from android to desktop), search for it there are many threads on it, with instructions!
If still vain, Can you share the webpage? Will try a workaround.
Though, I believe, it should show up fine! Without any modifications except for javascript enabled!
Thanks for the reply!
Javascript IS enabled. I didn't have to change it.
Try changing UID ( from android to desktop),
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This instruction, I do not understand. I've looked for a setting but still unsure. Can you elaborate a little, please?
I'm sure there are other threads out there. I had a quick look on this website but saw nothing. I'm not sure what keywords to use to describe what's not happening for me. New to Android...
Unfortunately, I cannot show the website as it is work-related.
Well, here it goes,
type this in browser address bar:
about:debug
than hit go
new options appear in settings,
Choose debug> uastring> change to desktop
plus rendering normal and disable wide page display, in case it helps.
UID is user identifier> implemented by browsers for web servers to identify the incoming client browser as dektop or mobile device for some good odd reason! Perhaps, ah never mind.
Lastly, try firefox browser from app market if all fails.
I got the bit about Firefox but I'm afraid I couldn't follow the rest.
I typed about:debug and it did nothing I could see. The third time, it took me to some google search results.
I could see nothing in the settings about debug... but then I'm not sur wchich part of the settings you refer to.
I tried installing flash 10.3 but this made no difference.
Does anyone have any ideas on this please?
It isn't suppose to load anything, the page remains same. New "DEBUG" option appear in "settings". Just hit the top right-corner "option" button and go to "settings" than "debug" is that complex?
Type this
about:debug
press enter
go option>Settings than debug >than uastring> than choose desktop
Well that post isn't complex, but the first one was not spelt out clearly - that's why I asked for clarification.
For some reason, even though I did the above actions the first time, the debug option never appeared. Now this time it worked but either way, selecting desktop has not fixed the main problem as per first post.
Anyone with any other ideas, please let me know. Neither desktop nor flash 10.3 has fixed the problem!!
I cannot scroll down a sub-section on an otherwise fixed web page!
Wasn't spelt correctly? Strange! As both the posts appear same to me the only addition I did in former was add firefox option. Since I can't access the webpage, have no idea about the issue perhaps discussing with your company's IT advisor may help!
"spelt out" - it's a figure of speech. Not to worry...
Yes, the IT advisor is my next option but I've always found certain IT forums have been helpful with IT issues in the past so I thought I would try this one.
Have tried the following site on native android browser, honeycomb 3.1, and all panels scroll very well with touch swipe independently from the main web page. There's a scrolling marquee panel at lower right and its auto-scrolling as meant to. Is your tablet updated to honeycomb 3.1?
http://www.visionjinx.net/?load=http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/web/rss/libraryview.jsp
mughalgxt said:
Have tried the following site on native android browser, honeycomb 3.1, and all panels scroll very well with touch swipe independently from the main web page. There's a scrolling marquee panel at lower right and its auto-scrolling as meant to. Is your tablet updated to honeycomb 3.1?
http://www.visionjinx.net/?load=http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/views/web/rss/libraryview.jsp
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Hi, I've also experienced problems with the built in Android safari based browser and also the Skyfire browser app when perusing this site that has a scrollable text box within the main page. There are days when the content in the scrollable box is large and scrollable. This will cause these two mentioned browsers on Android 3.1 to improperly display the page. (note: if you view it on a day when that list box has a short list of news items and is not scrollable, then the Android browser will display it without scrambling text over text all over the place).
I just checked the site today and it is in a state that will cause the bug.
http://www.tabletpcreview.com/
I downloaded then Opera browser app today and tried this page and it seems to display all the contents on the screen instead of presenting it in a scrollable list box. At least Opera is not over-laying the list contents text over the main page text though. Go try it and see.
Hope they will fix the Android browsers to decode all pages in future update.
try the touchwiz stock rom, the scrambled text or over-laying the list contents text over the main page issue, at the bottom of the page, is completely fixed in android browser owing to samsung's native tweaks!
mughalgxt said:
try the touchwiz stock rom, the scrambled text or over-laying the list contents text over the main page issue, at the bottom of the page, is completely fixed in android browser owing to samsung's native tweaks!
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Hi mughalgxt, what is this [/B]touchwiz stock rom[/B] exactly? I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 locked retail model which I have rooted and have already applied Pershoot's Overclock to 1.4Hhz kernel flash. The tablet is running fine as it except for the mentioned quirks.
Will overlaying this [/B]touchwiz stock rom[/B] directly on top of my already modified kernel and rooting mods upset anything?
Do you have a direct link you can provide here to get the exact version of this [/B]touchwiz stock rom[/B] that you recommended?
Edit Update: I just read a bit on that touchwiz stock rom modification and I does not seem perfect enough for me to risk messing up my tablet environment right now. I will wait for Samsung to release an official version for my Wi-Fi only tab 10.1.
Thank You!
[stock][eur]touchwiz rom, its directly from samsung, unmodded, on android development page posted by me! The browser displays the complex webpages unscrambled! The only notable issue is the UAstring! It tends to return to android mode from desktop on reboot! I have failed to note any notable speed boost from 1 to 1.4ghz overclocking more prone to freezes so far!Like to remain stock! If browser is your main priority than gotta try the stock rom and may revert back!

My favorite browser, no longer supported, Miren 1.2

It does not support copying text from a webpage like the newest Miui version, but that won't run on blur.
Edit here are the key settings for a forum browser that puts the XDA app to shame as well as many others.
Note: for attachment uploading choose the "manage attachments" under the text window not the paper clip dropdown. Just remember to close the blank popup, uploading works with ES file, upload files then hit the back button and preview changes to see the attachments shown properly.
NB: the above settings are for browsing forums. To post/edit just double tap to turn panoramic mode off which zooms very close then the editing tools work well.
I use Smart Keyboard Pro BTW.
Op updated to show best settings for forum use.
Hello
That is nice
is it the last version. is it ended?
Yes I think. But I am an Iphone user now.
aviwdoowks said:
Yes I think. But I am an Iphone user now.
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Lucky You
but it is not and this one think you must miss
when i installed it it prompted for new version and directly downloaded the new version

[Q] Can't get text to wrap properly on browsers

I'm coming from a Samsung Droid Charge which offered no option to choose font size (tiny, small,normal, large etc.). On that phone I downloaded an app which allowed me to adjust the font to whatever percentage I was comfortable with (chose 120%). After that, all the browsers, and most sites, allowed pinch and zoom. I could easily obtain a readable font (for me), and the browsers and sites, immediately adjusted their layout so that the text wrapped around almost perfectly, almost all the time.
Here I am with the SG4, 4.2, (not rooted and afraid to try). It offers a choice of font sizes and I chose large. NONE of the browsers I'm using adjust easily and well to wrapping around and they do not offer the wonderfully adjustable pinch and zoom. I can't read most things on the web without squinting or scrolling horizontally because the wrap is for a wider font. I no longer have the pinch/zoom option. The app I used to use to adjust the size of the font, and a few other apps I've tried, have no effect anymore. My present browser choices are Chrome Beta, Opera Beta, the stock browser and UC Browser.
So I have a nice large high resolution screen on which to read, but I cannot find a way to make the text conform to the width/size of the screen and I can't read on it very well at all. I used to comfortably read about 2 hours/day on the Droid Charge and was expecting to do at least as well.
Suggestions? Help?
Thanks.
louise3000 said:
I'm coming from a Samsung Droid Charge which offered no option to choose font size (tiny, small,normal, large etc.). On that phone I downloaded an app which allowed me to adjust the font to whatever percentage I was comfortable with (chose 120%). After that, all the browsers, and most sites, allowed pinch and zoom. I could easily obtain a readable font (for me), and the browsers and sites, immediately adjusted their layout so that the text wrapped around almost perfectly, almost all the time.
Here I am with the SG4, 4.2, (not rooted and afraid to try). It offers a choice of font sizes and I chose large. NONE of the browsers I'm using adjust easily and well to wrapping around and they do not offer the wonderfully adjustable pinch and zoom. I can't read most things on the web without squinting or scrolling horizontally because the wrap is for a wider font. I no longer have the pinch/zoom option. The app I used to use to adjust the size of the font, and a few other apps I've tried, have no effect anymore. My present browser choices are Chrome Beta, Opera Beta, the stock browser and UC Browser.
So I have a nice large high resolution screen on which to read, but I cannot find a way to make the text conform to the width/size of the screen and I can't read on it very well at all. I used to comfortably read about 2 hours/day on the Droid Charge and was expecting to do at least as well.
Suggestions? Help?
Thanks.
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i use dolphin browser, it works great
I came from the charge to. Dont hesitate on rooting. Its just as easy. Follow the root guide. Its too easy and takes 10 min.
Boat browser has a text wrapping option in the settings.
I also suggest Boat Browser. Had it since I had the S3 and moved on to the S4.
erpinnefor
fade2green514 said:
i use dolphin browser, it works great
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I used to use Dolphin on the Droid Charge but it was a pretty hefty load - yes, great add-ons etc., but lots of memory and wasn't that fast.
Are you using the full version or the mini?
Thanks
rooting sg4
Justblazeitup said:
I came from the charge to. Dont hesitate on rooting. Its just as easy. Follow the root guide. Its too easy and takes 10 min.
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I never rooted the Droid Charge but did become very skilled at cursing and at finding apps to do a lot of what it wouldn't do and hadn't even thought of.
If I root the SG4, shouldn't I wait until all the "best" chip flashes are settled? And until I understand more about rooting. Is there a good description of what you get when you're done? I know I'd "lose" all the unwanted Verizon apps and Samsung apps. Would I also "lose" the Google apps, most of which I don't want? And could I keep the things I do like or do they all go?
As you can see, I'm nervous about it. Funny, I can take apart a computer, replace a motherboard etc., but I guess I feel I really don't understand how the phones work as well as I understand computers, drives etc.
Thanks for your encouragement and I may reach that point sooner than I know
You can re add apps you dont want, with hyperdrive rom ota he has all those apps ready for download and install. There is a video that explains it and u cannot fail if u follow the directions. I get nervous everytime but when its done, i dont ever know why i was nervous in the first place lol. If it messes up, u can flash back to stock just as easily. Its hard to actually hard brick a phone. As long as it powers into download mode, u are good to go
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Dolphin wraps the text
fade2green514 said:
i use dolphin browser, it works great
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I installed the regular Dolphin last night and for the first time I've been able to read in peace, pinch and zoom and even change the size of the font on the fly etc,
Thanks a lot.

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