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Hi,
Has anyone purchased one of the HTC 8525 OEM housings from cnn.cn. If so what was the quality like and are they new housings? None of the re-branded TyTn's seem to use this housing so I'm wondering if they are manufacured specifically for, or by, cnn.cn?
Also, what are the service and delivery charges like from cnn.cn.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525-full-housing-pi-198.html?osCsid=ee042fbf3e01db3c5bad7913ecdb4a44http://cnn.cn/shop/8525-full-housing-pi-198.html osCsid=ee042fbf3e01db3c5bad7913ecdb4a44
Thanks in advance.
I bought a blackberry case from them and it arrived in 8 days. Great service for 5 USD in my opinion.
I'm curious about that tytn housing unit too.
They have taken it down for some reason.
O was gonna try it.
sjbale said:
Hi,
Has anyone purchased one of the HTC 8525 OEM housings from cnn.cn. If so what was the quality like and are they new housings? None of the re-branded TyTn's seem to use this housing so I'm wondering if they are manufacured specifically for, or by, cnn.cn?
Also, what are the service and delivery charges like from cnn.cn.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525-full-housing-pi-198.html?osCsid=ee042fbf3e01db3c5bad7913ecdb4a44http://cnn.cn/shop/8525-full-housing-pi-198.html osCsid=ee042fbf3e01db3c5bad7913ecdb4a44
Thanks in advance.
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Dude you got a TyTN or an 8525?Because are very different..
I havent heard many bad things about them, havent used them personally yet
8525 Housing
I might as well just add to this thread
You guys think this is worth a shot? The last owner of my phone jacked up a couple parts of the current housing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Magician-qt...yZ108649QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I might as well just add to this thread
You guys think this is worth a shot? The last owner of my phone jacked up a couple parts of the current housing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Magician-qt...yZ108649QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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That'd look great on the 8525. You may want to check this out for a step-by-step guide.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1152710&page=1&pp=15
Judging by it's looks, it only works with Hern100 devices (8525, m3100, etc) and wont work with the TyTN. (herm200)
I could be wrong though.
The D-Pad layout is a bit different, but if you get the D-Pad
http://cnn.cn/shop/cingular-8525htc-hermes-outside-keypad-p-1610.html
and what goes under the D-Pad, you might be able to get it to work.
But that's kind of not worth the effort though.
I am yet to find a stylish housing for my tytn. It's all scratched out but I hate that Dopod housing.
Since there is no flipping way, HTC is going to make the original housing available to anyone, it would have been nice if someone came out with a more stylish design.
g35driver said:
I might as well just add to this thread
You guys think this is worth a shot? The last owner of my phone jacked up a couple parts of the current housing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Magician-qt...yZ108649QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I'd love to pick up an all black housing like that but it has one thing that keeps me from doing it.. the front facing camera hole. since i have an 8525.. it would just be an open hole on the front of my phone which would look dumb and get lots of dust inside.
g35driver said:
I might as well just add to this thread
You guys think this is worth a shot? The last owner of my phone jacked up a couple parts of the current housing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Magician-qt...yZ108649QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have one on the way..
is it really hard to get the original HTC grey version? I've seen loads of the dopod versions, some with some without the video button.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=290143857315&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019
is htc but dont know if button configuration is right for hermes 200 (Anyone confirm this?) does that have video button??
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....PageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015#ebayphotohosting
Its the closest one ive seen to mine but branded CHT DOPOD
Ive seen people ask htc to replace it but had no sucess. Its really annoying considering we all dont keep the phones forever and selling them off is harder when you cant get the original housing replaced.
that black htc housing DOES have the video button but the layout is different than the herm200.
the red hangup button and the green phone button are not on the right place on that case.
I have taken my tytn apart. What goes under the D-Pad in herme200 looks different than the ones in herm100. Even if you did get that case and the right d-pad, your buttons wont fall on the right spot. therefore the phone button and the hangup button wont work.
I wonder if HTC repair center would replace the housing.
check this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323520
Custom Battery Doors?
So we can all agree that the Developer Version of the G1 has a pretty sweet custom battery cover. Anybody know of anywhere making similar products?I expected to find a whole slew of decorated covers in all sorts of colors by now, but I searched Ebay and some online shops and no dice.
Re: Custom Battery Doors/Plastics on Dummy G1s
Have you considered picking up a dummy G1 (like they use in retail displays) cheaply on eBay? They may use the same casing parts - if anyone knows, please tell me?
I'm thinking about getting one of the dummies and respraying the plastics purple, then swapping the plastics with the ones on my G1 (using the instructions in the service manual that showed up on the interwebs).
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So we can all agree that the Developer Version of the G1 has a pretty sweet custom battery cover. Anybody know of anywhere making similar products?I expected to find a whole slew of decorated covers in all sorts of colors by now, but I searched Ebay and some online shops and no dice.
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I stuck a decal on mine before 'skinning' it. Works
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demontefixo said:
I stuck a decal on mine before 'skinning' it. Works
--M
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Can we see a picture? I almost did the same. Just haven't skinned the back yet.
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Can we see a picture? I almost did the same. Just haven't skinned the back yet.
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Sure, I'll get around to a picture in a few days.
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I painted mine a while back. Sanded it down first, to get rid of the rubberized texture (for the paint to stick better).
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/95009-post58.html
and of course i cant see it without an account, lol
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and of course i cant see it without an account, lol
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Sorry man, didn't realize that. I'll repost them here in a sec.
Update: Here ya go man. While I was at it, I did the door on my burner. :-D
WHITE Back Cover?
I just found in ebay an oem white back cover for ,of course, the white g1.
Have any of you guys bought or tried this cover??
I think it would look nice having an all white g1..
Heres the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140296816157&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123
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I just found in ebay an oem white back cover for ,of course, the white g1.
Have any of you guys bought or tried this cover??
I think it would look nice having an all white g1..
Heres the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140296816157&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123
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That battery cover is not white lol. It more like gold/silver/copperish?
I asked the seller and he told me that indeed it was white, but you never know its ebay
I think that may be the UK one.
Apparently when the G1 Pictures first came out the UK white G1 Variety had a white back cover.
I have the white G1 in the U.S. and It has a Silver/Greyish battery cover.
I have had the problem that the "Softtouch" has started to fade and there is a visible copperish color coming through. The inside of the cover is in fact white, so I guess you could clean a grey one off and use it as white.
T-mobile paid (Through account credit) the cost of 15 dollars plus S&H to replace mine from HTC. I ordered the Black one so I would not have this problem again. Now my Phone is white in front, with a grey stripe around it and a black back. Looks Storm Trooperish.
all white (except keyboard)
http://cnn.cn/shop/tmobile-white-housing-p-4199.html
falcon72 said:
all white (except keyboard)
http://cnn.cn/shop/tmobile-white-housing-p-4199.html
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Is it even possible to replace all of that? If I can find one without the logo in all white I would definately want one, but wouldn't it be too difficult to replace all of it?
djind said:
Is it even possible to replace all of that? If I can find one without the logo in all white I would definately want one, but wouldn't it be too difficult to replace all of it?
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yup, so possible in fact, that HTC wrote a manual on how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468673
ok, not a whole manual, but it's in there somewhere.
also it looks pretty fkin hard to do, i don't trust myself tbh =/
doesn't
it doesn't really look that difficult. just follow the directions. time consuming yes. i wouldn't do it unless i found one without the t-mobile logo, that would be a waste of time. if i could find one with no logo i'd be so happy. i hate advertising for free
i have a white UK G1 and the back is the same glossy white as the rest of the phone...
the white paint is holding up brilliantly as well and as i said is the same glossyness as the front... so white front, silver trim with a white back.
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Apparently when the G1 Pictures first came out the UK white G1 Variety had a white back cover.
I have the white G1 in the U.S. and It has a Silver/Greyish battery cover.
I have had the problem that the "Softtouch" has started to fade and there is a visible copperish color coming through. The inside of the cover is in fact white, so I guess you could clean a grey one off and use it as white.
T-mobile paid (Through account credit) the cost of 15 dollars plus S&H to replace mine from HTC. I ordered the Black one so I would not have this problem again. Now my Phone is white in front, with a grey stripe around it and a black back. Looks Storm Trooperish.
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I am having this same problem. I know a guy who has done the same as you but he didn't have to pay for the cover. He went in to T_Mobile and told them the problem and said he wanted a black back piece and they just gave him one. As for myself, I may just do the same.
I like the black back
I just paid up front for it, T-mob credited my account for it.
I like the black back, looks kind of Storm-Trooperish.
While a Glossy white one is most appealing to me, (I consider myself lucky to even have a white G1). I think it will be a while before white battery covers become available OEM, until then the grey back looks like its really dirty around the edges, so the white one gives the phone a more polished look.
External cover need
where can i buy a external cover? not comes with battery.. i ony need external cover (door) because mine broken. need a new one
Just saw this on ebay...Im a fan of housing and facia. But i know %98 of TP2 owner right now dont wanna touch the Hardware section of the phone.( for customizing)
It Just nice too see that we can tweak not only whats inside but also the outside too... Im just hoping for a nice fit and high quality. Its too early to tell how good this housing is but i wanna know soon.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ORIGINAL-HTC-...s_JN?hash=item4cea1e075a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I also noticed that a couple days ago but they only offer red and blue right now. I'm not savy enough but I think it's a cool options
For that, did you know how to dismount the TP2 ?
Looks like not really easy to operate at first glance...
You get a screwdriver with it ... just find all the screws and replace!
wait few months... dismantling this phone will be on youtube!
I noticed those when I bought my TP2 last week... to bad they are only red and blue. I would be down for black, or maybe a nice dark green. They look nice from the photo. I don't like taking apart slider phones... PITA
The Wing wasn't so bad. I did the whole thing solo since my brother broke his screen and there weren't any dismantling guides available yet. It's easier than you think... just don't force anything and keep a sharp eye open for screws.
The only problem with swapping the case for a T-Mobile version is that you have to keep the T-Mobile keyboard. The layout is unique to T-Mobile and the HTC version (as well as other carriers) vary from model to model.
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The Wing wasn't so bad. I did the whole thing solo since my brother broke his screen and there weren't any dismantling guides available yet. It's easier than you think... just don't force anything and keep a sharp eye open for screws.
The only problem with swapping the case for a T-Mobile version is that you have to keep the T-Mobile keyboard. The layout is unique to T-Mobile and the HTC version (as well as other carriers) vary from model to model.
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It's really easy to swap cases. I had to replace the screen on my room mates Kaiser which is a slider tilt screen device as well. Took me 40 mins tops & I had to completely disassemble it. Will probably have to again soon. He broke his screen a second time lmao. The one thing I'll note though is for T-Mobile, the whole device is different basicly. The screen does have a tappered edge & the screen cover is bigger & the battery cover is a completely different design. the Stylus doesn't go through it. So, the T-Mobile wouldn't be completely changible. As for the keyboard, that can be changed via ROM. The HTC Kaiser has a different KB Layout than the AT&T Tilt, we just install a CAB to "fix" this as the ROM's are made for the HTC version. Also, the Sprint/Verizon/AT&T(From what I read) have Headphone Jacks. You could arguably use only part of the kit, but for $80-100+, I want one completely compatible with my device.
As for Colors, there's a full silver/full black/& black & orange version available. I wish they made them available in pieces so you could mix & match parts. For example the Battery covers.
Anyone knows whether a housing is available for the european version? Mine has some ugly scratches due to close contact with the asphalt Can't find a new housing though, only bezels... I need a new grey edge around the keyboard to which the battery cover is attached aswel. Is this even possible?
Luckily, the keyboard, screen and batt cover are still intact, and the phone is still functioning properly. It is now protected by a plastic rubberized case and a screenprotector.
Help would be very welcome!
I'm thinking about giving this a try to replace the screwed up button layout that ATT provided. If I can just swap the buttons and the remap the keys with a cab file I'm thinking I can get the QWERTY keyboard back to it's original form.
Anyone else tried this?
Jon
Tried going to the link but it appears to have been "removed".....anywhere else?
This one is working for me.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-PRO-2-T7373-OEM-RED-FULL-HOUSING-KEYBOARD-US_W0QQitemZ350292809157QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item518f1415c5
Lets focus on getting everyone behind this one thread - maybe we can get someone to confirm! Thanks! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547632&page=4
Schmurtz1968 said:
For that, did you know how to dismount the TP2 ?
Looks like not really easy to operate at first glance...
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Dismantling HTC Touch PRO2, HTC Rhodium in pictures...
The above dismantling link has been in the XDA-Wiki for several months now.
So what? If someone asks a question and I can help, I sure will. Or should I be an smartass and tell it's around here, use the search... Maybe it's your thing, not mine.
i'd like to try to replace the bezel on the screen-part, it's got little wholes and even a completely crushed section.. but according to the link you'll have to disassemble the whole keyboard-part in order to do that.. isnt there an easier way to replace the bezel??
just wanted to let everyone know that I have the black/blue case from ebay china. It took 3 weeks but I finally have it.
After taking apart my g1 and 90% housing conversion from white to black. I accidentally cut one of the ribbons off and broke the phone. So im a little scared to take apart this $400 phone. Didnt mind the g1 because there dirt cheap and easy to find another one.
If you all can gather some links and any guides I will probably convert my tmo tp2 to the new housing sunday mourning. unless someone can confirm that its extremly easy to switch housing.
Just an example of the g1 dissemble.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PdhXx3g9nU
ive been modding hardware since everyone had a nextel i730. ive seen alot of crappy poorly made housings in my days. usually the first and second generation batches of housings that come out are poorly cut, or made of brittle plastics. i would advise that when looking for housings(especially for expensive devices), that you get a 3rd generation housing and look on youtube for directions.
So excited.
I am trying to covert my T-mobile touch pro 2 soon. The full housing will arrive in 2 days. I dropped my precious on the pavement.... T-mobile housing is nowhere to be found so I bit the nail. Hopefull it's going to turn out awesome
Check this one for taking apart. flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157621828152091/
Hi all, yesterday was a sad day for me as I dropped my hero and have managed to crack the back cover! it's only very slight however i would like to replace it. any know where I can get one?
ill second that because mine makes all the time cracking sounds (cuz of a small tore), anyone here from germany?
Would also like a graphite one, don't like the orange logo :/
Has anyone found one yet?
It might not be worth buying the whole housing but keep an eye on this:-
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-HERO-Housing-p/htc732830.htm
Maybe they will sell the back cover only in the near future.
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It might not be worth buying the whole housing but keep an eye on this:-
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-HERO-Housing-p/htc732830.htm
Maybe they will sell the back cover only in the near future.
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wow thats really expensive!!
I normally get OEM replacements from http://cnn.cn, but no housings listed for the Hero as yet.
old thread i know but cnn.cn do now stock back covers, expensive though!
happened to me too. =/ i got one for extreamly cheap on eBay
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Glance here:
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=...6.m270.l1313&_odkw=htc,+hero&_osacat=0&bkBtn=
You can buy these from the official HTC Accessory Store in the UK:
Brown (I assume this is Graphite? Or is there a Brown Hero?): http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=190181
Black: http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=188331
White: http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=188216
I have been using my T-Mobile TP2 without protection on it for a while and have dropped it a few times. The screen is still perfect and the lower half (keyboard) has relatively no damage other than a few spots of chipped paint.
But the upper half, around the edges, has took quite a bit of damage. Mostly chipped pieces and dents, partially because of me dropping it and also because the bodyguard I was using previously damaged it! It was one of those crappy snap-on ones. Will never get one again, just bought ghost armor.
Anyway my question is what is the best way to repair the chipped pieces and dents or is that piece sold somewhere so I could replace it? I have no experience replacing things on the phone but I'm sure if there's a tutorial anywhere it wouldn't be too hard for me. Besides I"m not trying to disassemble the entire thing just the upper portion without the screen.
Any help appreciated.
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I have been using my T-Mobile TP2 without protection on it for a while and have dropped it a few times. The screen is still perfect and the lower half (keyboard) has relatively no damage other than a few spots of chipped paint.
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Best option...Ebay>buy broken (software wise) TP2>use if for spare parts
hmmm the only cheap one I could find listed was also worn...
was hoping to profit because i will probably be selling my TP2 soon.
go to ebay and search touch pro 2 houseing case there about 80 bucks they come in balck and red and black and blue the are a little hard to swich over to but i did it and it worked out fine just takes about an hour tools and dremal if and only if ure useing the tp2 t7373
I am trying to locate a replacement front HW button (back key is either cracked or scratched and light shows through) - so, during the lcd repair process, is this button easily replaceable without getting too involved with any other components? Any suggestions or advice on what to do/where to locate this piece of plastic would be met with extreme gratitude!
Get a new housing from eBay.
Just be careful to get one that fits your version.
My phone was stolen at work on Friday, so I managed to scramble and find one at a good price on eBay and it arrived this morning.
While I did ask to see photos, and I expected some scuffs, the photos didn't do the device justice at all, as it's much worse than I expected. In all the time I've owned my devices, I've never dropped my phone once, not once! this thing's a disaster.
So I'll need to get a replacement housing. I've been looking at eBay but couldn't see anything except these ridiculous colored housings for teens and 20-somethings. Where do real adults get the housings from?
This is an excellent outer shell protector, gives better heft holding (IMHO), rubberized black, very lightweight. Just snaps on and off.
Auction ended, but locate seller store. My Tilt2 fit perfectly in the Touch Pro Verizon except camera button needed cutting shell (trivial task).
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TOUCH-PRO-2...D-COVER-CASE-/130412358305?pt=PDA_Accessories
PDADoc said:
My phone was stolen at work on Friday, so I managed to scramble and find one at a good price on eBay and it arrived this morning.
While I did ask to see photos, and I expected some scuffs, the photos didn't do the device justice at all, as it's much worse than I expected. In all the time I've owned my devices, I've never dropped my phone once, not once! this thing's a disaster.
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You could take it up with eBay for SNAD, probably get a refund depending on the exact wording of the add, but if it was really SNAD should do it.
So I'll need to get a replacement housing. I've been looking at eBay but couldn't see anything except these ridiculous colored housings for teens and 20-somethings. Where do real adults get the housings from?
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Eh? On ebay? You have everything from the original HTC version to various carrier variations, search more/wider. They're 40-80$ though.
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You could take it up with eBay for SNAD, probably get a refund depending on the exact wording of the add, but if it was really SNAD should do it.
Eh? On ebay? You have everything from the original HTC version to various carrier variations, search more/wider. They're 40-80$ though.
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I've been checking but I haven't found anything but these colored replicas and I don't want that. I'm willing to pay more for the original housing if I could find it.
As for the eBay complaint issue, I did think about it, but eBay is such a PITA about any disputes; they always act as though they don't want to get involved at all. In the end, I'll eat this one caveat emptor, at least this time.
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I've been checking but I haven't found anything but these colored replicas and I don't want that. I'm willing to pay more for the original housing if I could find it.
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Sorry man, but lern2internet. It's the first 4 hits on ebay. Just enter "htc touch pro 2 housing" and check 'worldwide'.
As for the eBay complaint issue, I did think about it, but eBay is such a PITA about any disputes; they always act as though they don't want to get involved at all. In the end, I'll eat this one caveat emptor, at least this time.
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eBay dispute process is tedious an long winded, but will lean towards the buyer in almost all cases. You just have to be patient.
PDADoc said:
As for the eBay complaint issue, I did think about it, but eBay is such a PITA about any disputes; they always act as though they don't want to get involved at all. In the end, I'll eat this one caveat emptor, at least this time.
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Always pay with your credit card through PayPal. Ebay and PayPal suck at disputes; your credit card company is your fall-back and your best protection as well.
You can get OEM housings for $50-60:
http://www.parts4repair.com/products/Housing-for-HTC-T7373.html
Looks like it's kinda tricky to replace the housing (if you're going OEM)....
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/htc-touch-pro2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos
PDADoc said:
I've been checking but I haven't found anything but these colored replicas and I don't want that. I'm willing to pay more for the original housing if I could find it.
As for the eBay complaint issue, I did think about it, but eBay is such a PITA about any disputes; they always act as though they don't want to get involved at all. In the end, I'll eat this one caveat emptor, at least this time.
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On ebay? i suggest amazon.
rete said:
Always pay with your credit card through PayPal. Ebay and PayPal suck at disputes; your credit card company is your fall-back and your best protection as well.
You can get OEM housings for $50-60:
http://www.parts4repair.com/products/Housing-for-HTC-T7373.html
Looks like it's kinda tricky to replace the housing (if you're going OEM)....
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/htc-touch-pro2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos
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Great, thanks for the tip! I'll have to look into this closer, as I think if I go with the Touch Pro 2 OEM housing, there'll be a hole for the front-facing camera.
Maybe I'll just deal with it for now and keep my eyes open for an AT&T Tilt 2 housing somewhere. If it wasn't so beat up, I'd try a warranty exchange through AT&T; I was able to do it when I purchased a used BlackBerry Bold 9700 with no problem.
Can use HTC TP2 housing on T-Mobile TP2?
PDADoc said:
Great, thanks for the tip! I'll have to look into this closer, as I think if I go with the Touch Pro 2 OEM housing, there'll be a hole for the front-facing camera.
Maybe I'll just deal with it for now and keep my eyes open for an AT&T Tilt 2 housing somewhere. If it wasn't so beat up, I'd try a warranty exchange through AT&T; I was able to do it when I purchased a used BlackBerry Bold 9700 with no problem.
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Hi there!
I've a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 that is quite beat up too & I want to replace the whole housing.
Problem is where I'm living right now, the T-Mobile housing costs double of the standard Touch Pro 2 housing.
Is it possible to fit the motherboard, flex cable & LCD panel of the T-Mobile onto a HTC Touch Pro 2 casing with the power button?
I would need the touch screen & call/navigation buttons as well.
Please advise me if you know anything about this.
Thanks!
Konker
I'm afraid I don't know myself, but if you keep searching, I'm sure there is someone who's done it and knows for sure.
Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8580850#post8580850