Hi,
Now that there is the TyTN II with GPS.
Isn't it possible to use the RadioRom of the TyTN II on the TyTN to get the GPS chip working?? (with some hardware modifications? wiring the GPS module to the antenna?)
Gr. Binky11
No - 2 different Chipsets.
JR_de said:
No - 2 different Chipsets.
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There is no connection. Hermes uses Samsung chipset while Tytn II i.e. Kaiser uses Qualcomm. Keep using BT GPS mate.
No, Hermes uses Qualcom chipset too (but the other version than TytN II.). CPU is Samsung, but radio chipset Qualcom with some other components.
SPSP said:
No, Hermes uses Qualcom chipset too (but the other version than TytN II.). CPU is Samsung, but radio chipset Qualcom with some other components.
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I though so to
Speaking as one of the participants in the original testing threads and from memory:
Could GPS be activated through radio? Yes.
Could GPS NMEA output be routed through the OS? Yes.
Could we get a decent enough signal to make it viable? No.
Final bit seemingly because of the layout of the hermes it became highly impractical to get a working mod which attached the aerial to the chip.
After all this I got myself a Navicore Slim (Holux in disguise) and went the BT route. It's the only decent way to go with the Hermes, and it's pretty good.
Theres a thread where they went to the level of taking the phone apart.
Correct me if I am wrong here but they found that it had been purposely disabled by means of not attaching an aerial and because its a surface mounted chip its nigh on impossible for anyone to make the hardware modification required without breaking the legs on the chip.
So for all intents and purposes GPS is not possible on the Hermes without an external GPS receiver
I was trying to use my X7500 for walking navigation and I am sure that the static navigation here is ON (during slow movement - less than 6 km/h is the change of location not detected or only in large steps). I was searching several forums than and tried several programs (SirfTech, GPSTweak, MMSirf, aplsirf, SirfDemo, BeeLineGPS) with no success. It seems like X7500 can not switch to Sirf mode. Do you have some experiences with this issue?
Thank you very much for your help.
erm....the GPOS chip in here is not a sirf chip, it's a qualcomm GPSone. I don't think it has static navigation.....
Qualcomm chipset? I am really confused - I was reading everywhere that it should be Sirfstar III. So, how is it?
I'm in the doubt too.
At the Dopod U1000 User Manual on Appendix A.3 Specifications at the second page of that section under GPS said "Chipset SirF StarIII with Ephemeris Extension support".
But on the Athena Service Manual (DOC-00026040) said nothing about what chipset is in the Athena. So I guess the GPS Chipset is one of the options the OEM has when asking to HTC for a Athena model (like HTC X7500, Dopod U1000, TMobile AMEO or others).
The Athena Service Manual is funny about this point since mention with deep detail the features of the GPS system like db levels for sample but doesn't mention the maker of the GPS chipset.
Related to the HTC X7500 Advantage I'm in the doubt of what GPS chipset contains. Even at www.europe.htc.com this point is no metioned neither in the web page nor the PDF you can download.
Best Regards,
mahjong
EDIT: Looking at Google many pages said X7500 has SirF StarIII GPS chipset but since that pages are not from HTC and HTC said nothing about it I'm still in the doubt.
Dear Mahjong, thank you for giving me just a bit hope. It would be a big dissapointment for me, if the chipset in x7500 is not Sirf.... does anybody have some more knowledge about this issue? Thank you for any news.
On page 233 of the Ameo manual and in the appendix section you'l read the following:
Chipset : SirF Star111 with Ephemeris Extension support.
Internal antenna : Yes.
GPS Receiver : 20 parallel channels.
OK, I am at home now and tried to open my manual also (at last) and there are the same data (SirF StarIII with ...etc.)
I hope, I can believe it. So the question is back here: how to turn off the static navigation of this GPS?
I tried also to ask directly at HTC support, but it seems to me that they even don't know what is it.... :-(
Any advice more than welcome....
My previous machine was an Mitac Mio a701 and since this was WM5 (like my X7500) got troubles with TT 5 and early versions of TT 6 that don't support properly the WM5 GPS virtual port option... which is linked with the ephemeris system.
The program I used to work in deep with the GPS was SirfTech. If SirfTech don't solve the problem... few more options you will have.
I was reading about the tests I did with my A701 and SirfTech and one thing I consider was improving the accuracy by using DGPS (WAAS). SirfTech helps me to activate the DGPS thing. Have you consider that.
SirfDemo is a great tool too. There is a tutorial in GpsPasSion related to SirfDemo and with a chapter dedicated to Static Navigation. Did you see it?
Is here: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25575
Well, by now this is what I can help.
Best Regards,
mahjong
EDIT: Have a look to this one: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39596 MMSirfSetup - MMSirf One click SN ON/OFF and on click WAAS ON/OFF
In the appendix.....
well bugger me....so it does! That surprises me. This thing is nowhere near as quick to pick up a signal as my old Artemis. I'm wondering if this is simply a case of whoever wrote the manual simply copy and pasted again, without double checking the facts. Lets face it, all the manuals in Dutch, Swedish, Danish etc all state that the device includes transcriber and letter recognizer and we all know that those languages dont! The only other GPS device that even mentions the GPS chip is the P3300 and it has the exact same info as at the back here.
Unfortunately, knowing what the device is like, and knowing what tends to happen when the manuals are written, i'm not so sure i believe it..
But in the meantime, until i can find out for definite, I stand (well, sit at a desk) corrected.
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Unfortunately, knowing what the device is like, and knowing what tends to happen when the manuals are written, i'm not so sure i believe it..
But in the meantime, until i can find out for definite, I stand (well, sit at a desk) corrected.
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Yeah but... if you don't trusth on the HTC user guide and fetaures... what else? You should open the X7500 to have a look inside... but anyway the model number could be erased from the top of the chip which is something many companies do whatever the reason.
So? The images of system board at HTC Service Manual don't show any chip with the well-known Sirf logo... but I insist this is a feature that the OEM decide.
Hmmmm... using SirfTech on my X7500 I cannot get Sirf data...
One point for rhedgehog
EDIT: I changed to Sirf protocol using SirfTech and now I cannot access any GPS data. Recerting the change to NMEA using the same program doesn't solve the problem. What a mess!!! A warning: This doesn't looks a Sirf to me so don't mess around with Sirf programs by now.
I will keep everyone informed... let see if I manage to come my GPS back into live.
You see rhedgehog? I learned the hard way. :-DDD :-(((
Uffff Done....
I power off the HTC by pressing the power for 3 secs... then I take out the battery for 1 minute or so.... then reinsert the battery... power on... and...
My OziExplorer display again NMEA data coming form the GPS.
HTC X7500 doesn't look like having a Sirf chipset... and doesn't looks a good idea kidding with Sirf setup programs on it.
Best Regards,
mahjong
Athena (same as most of the current htc lineup?)is supposed to have the Qualcomm MSM6275 gpsOne chipset
http://www.cdmatech.com/technologies/gpsone.jsp
Ok I got it.
My X7500 has a Qualcomm MSM 6275 chipset. This information can be found on the Athena Service Manual. If you access the Qualcomm website and looks for this chipset you will eventually reach this page:
http://www.umtschips.com/products/msm6275_chipset_solution.jsp
This page said that the MSM6275 chipset contains not only the 3G capabilities but the GPS (an A-GPS solution based on GPSone).
In that web page there is information (and a PDF file too) showing that this MSM6275 chipset can manage the camrecorder, GPS, 3G telephony, video and a looooong list of features. I don't knwo how the video stuff link with the ATI Imageon video chipset inside our X7500 but... just access the webpage and read it by yourselves... For sample the MSM6275 contains an ARM core 926 itself so our machine is kind of dual proccesor:
624 MHz PXA270-series ("Bulverde") XScale applications processor
Qualcomm MSM6275 baseband processor
Anyway the combination of Qualcomm MSM6275 and ATI Imageon looks quite common since has been used by HTC in many machines like P3600 and P3300 and our X7500.
So...
1) Forget about Sirf StarIII on our X7500 (and Dopod U1000, Ameos... etc)
2) A big bow to rhedgehog... You were right we were wrong.
3) A question to the manual makers from Ameo, Dopod and HTC... why you mention there Sirf StarIII???? I don't understand that yet.
Offtopic: Another finding... The HTC Kaiser is not running with MSM6275 like ours Athenas... is running MSM7200 which is newer and add support to HSUPA (an evolution of HSDPA) that is suppoused to improve the upload traffic instead only the download (the U and the D on HSUPA and HSDPA).
Best regards,
mahjong
mahjong said:
Hmmmm... using SirfTech on my X7500 I cannot get Sirf data...
One point for rhedgehog
EDIT: I changed to Sirf protocol using SirfTech and now I cannot access any GPS data. Recerting the change to NMEA using the same program doesn't solve the problem. What a mess!!! A warning: This doesn't looks a Sirf to me so don't mess around with Sirf programs by now.
I will keep everyone informed... let see if I manage to come my GPS back into live.
You see rhedgehog? I learned the hard way. :-DDD :-(((
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Only just came across this thread - if I had seen it earlier I would have warned you - we found out the hard way some months ago that the GPS doesn't like being treated as a a SirfStar III. There is a thread about this from several months ago.
mahjong said:
My X7500 has a Qualcomm MSM 6275 chipset. This information can be found on the Athena Service Manual. If you access the Qualcomm website and looks for this chipset you will eventually reach this page:
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A good source for detailed specs is pdadb.net - see PDAdb - Athena
It has the correct GPS details for the GPS.
Didn't HTC find that Sirf III used to much power so the ditched it in favour of the Qualcom set?
Maybe but the question is still there... Why they delivered the user manuals with such an error??? They shouldn't. I mean if you said this is Sirf StarIII and the you mess around with software and got your Athena "brick" you can blame on HTC because of the misinformation (hmmm... is that properly written?)
Best Regards,
mahjong
apd said:
A good source for detailed specs is pdadb.net - see PDAdb - Athena
It has the correct GPS details for the GPS.
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Not sure... looks at this three lines taken from that page:
Interfaces
Expansion Slots: miniSD, miniSDHC, SDIO
Serial: RS-232 , 115200bit/s
USB: USB 2.0 client, 480Mbit/s , USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
3 features... 3 errors.... You don't have SDIO slot in Athena. You don't have RS-232 interface. And as far as I know is not USB 2.0 but I doubt in this one. At least the USB host is 1.1 I'm sure about that.
But the rest of information is more accurate than other web sites.
Regards,
mahjong
Hi,
anybody knows which chipset is built in Legend , wl1251 or wl1271 or another ti chipset?
Thanks.
Google still works for me and it says its neither one of those
(Qualcomm MSM7227)
Thanks, but i mean wireless chipset (read the tittle), not processor chipset. ¿Anybody knows?
My other friend (also called google) says its a wl1271
https://github.com/koush/proprietar...2689d010f8371/legend/proprietary/etc/firmware
Thanks, indeed it seems wl1273. This subsanes the "processor" affair.
Hello all!
I guess this should be in the development thread, anyways.
Regarding to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra
@Tegra 250 AP20H (Ventana)
Is the most confusing part of SoC types....
Is there a different build of the Ventana between manufacturers? :0
The Optimus 2x uses the wolfson DAC WM8990 chip, while the Atrix 4G uses the WM8903 according to some rumors, is this true? Plus the dac is in the SoC, not externally...
Any body can clarify this please?
(Dont want to buy a 400 bux teardown document of the tegra 2)
Thanks!
Any response/help is appreciated!
Hi everyone ,recently i sold my s3 ,and i really miss android for some reason ,and i wonder if i could use it on one of my laptops
I have a brand new hp g6 with core i7 3632qm and hd 7670m which i think is more than enough for something like this but i think it wont be supported graphickly.
And i got onther old aspire 3810t with intel core 2 solo and integrated gpuj ,this one i would definitly love to turn into a android machine ,cuz of its huge battery life.
The main reason i want android is to play those funny little games .
So im waiting on direction and advices.
Thx
The latest build seems to have hardware acceleration support for Radeon and Intel chipsets, take a look at it.
RoberGalarga said:
The latest build seems to have hardware acceleration support for Radeon and Intel chipsets, take a look at it.
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Used this image and lili usb live installer and after the initian selct your language and introduce your google credentials it reboots like it shows the android again and its just a bootloop.
Thx alot for the fast response