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As the title suggests, from the specs the device is given. This should be possible. Since the tablet is just now coming out, there are few forums for it. Even the Nvidia forums don't have a section for it, let alone XDA's forum. Which is why this is under modding.
The Nvidia Shield Tablet meets the Windows 8.1 requirements and uses intel chipsets. It's not a matter of if as much as when. Which is my request to the devs. Make the tablet either dual boot windows 8.1 and android or a full install of windows 8.1
Best of luck to you all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
Are there any forums on xda for the Shield Tablet? Its running android, and its most likely rootable.
Sincereless said:
[Update]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJSWe6Ane5A
At 2:39, you get the kernal build number that comes in the stock tablet. I know very little about kernals so I leave that to your discretion.
If anyone has any comments or relevant information to help developers with pushing a windows build into the tablet please feel free speak.
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Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
joshuabg said:
Anybody try to root this with towelroot?
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Yes i just got mine and rooted it with towelroot. works great, got xposed framwork up and running.
Wait wait wait. The Shield Tablet has Intel chipsets? So I can run Desktop mode and say install Steam and play lower end games if this became feasible? I'm almost positive already that Nvidia said that the Tegra K1 has DirectX capabilities, I would LOVE to play games like Halo PC and other lower end titles on this tablet! Especially if someone made drivers that recognized the Shield Controller as an XInput device!
Which is why I started this thread. To see what the devs have to say about this. If there is any chance XDA devs can do this, it will almost certainly change the scope of gaming at home and on the go.
On a side note, there are already videos of the tegra K1 running the dolphin emulator. While previous K1 devices could only run games to a certain extent, over at the Dolphin forums the devs there are already discussing full speed emulation with almost all Gamecube games and some Wii games. For Dolphin it comes down to CPU strength since both consoles only run on 1 core. While the tablet is quad core, the software can't connect to the other 2 cores due to information process paths which leaves 1 core(They managed 2 cores as an option, not sure how) The Dolphin emu needs to atleast 2 times that to run gamecube(485mhz) games and 4 times for the Wii(800 mhz). The Nvidia Tablet is a 2ghz. Which just isn't strong enough to run wii games. So getting Windows ported over is important for overclocking the cpu efficiently to a level Wii games can handle, and pc games a bonus.
Nope, nope, nope.
Hey, guys. I just randomly ran across this thread, and I wanted to let you know that the reason why nobody has ported Windows 8 to the nVidia shield tablet is that it uses an ARM processor. Yes, this processor is made by Intel, but it is an Intel MOBILE processor, not a full x86 architecture processor.
So, although it may take some reading for you to understand the basic incompatibilities here, I will tell you that running Windows 8 on this thing is not possible in any universe. The only Windows OS which will run on an ARM processor is Windows RT. But everyone hates Windows RT, and not a single Windows RT device has been made since 2013.
However, on a happier note, Android 5.0 Lollipop does add support for x86 and 64bit processors. So, a future in which we have dual booting Windows 8 / Android tablets is not unfeasible.
Hello Guys,
I have bought a Dell Latitude t02g Table. The specs looks great - Windows 7 Pro - 1.5ghz atom processor, 2 GB Ram, 64GB SSD.
I think the specs are great but its just too damn sluggish when i run facebook or any flash games on it. very unresponsive on normal browsing.
I think this tablet can be great on Google Android x86 platform but After doing a lot of research - I see that people have installed LUBUNTU on it or windows 8 on it and are in a compromised situation. Where Windows 8 has blue screens and etc and moving on Lubuntu, has limited the functionality of he hardware graphics and rotations.
So much money paid for a device that promises a lot and so much disappointment .
I just wish if we could have a forum for this device where the XDA Team can make something super for this device - maybe an android port over that fully works and makes teh tablet smooth like other tablets.
Do you think there is something already out there that has fixed the tablet and makes it shine like a star as advertised? or will there be further enhancements on this and i can wait for it?
Or should i just sell it off for literally peanuts and forget about it
Any help/ hints would be great.
Thanks
AJ
delldell latitude 10 st2
I also wanted to know if for the dell latitude 10 st2 there was solution?
Try the latest windows. That's what I did. To make good use out of it. I installed Kodi n hooked it up to my TV via HDMI worked well. N then sold after a few weeks. Let me know how it goes
There's a fork of android for x86 architecture (http://www.android-x86.org/ ). Some year or two ago I tried few of provided builds but with mixed success. The issues is that bundled drivers are either generic and performance is bad, or different builds have different modules working ( like WiFi but no sound or sound but no WiFi)
It's not that difficult to get two kernel .config files from two most "working" builds and merge them together and build a new kernel, but the process itself is very time consuming (you have to compare files option by option manually, automerge is not an option in this case)
Builds were tegav2, asus_laptop and eeepc
Looks like http://www.android-x86.org/ project moved quite far since that time so maybe you want to give it a try. It's rather brick-safe and you can always go back to Windows/Linux.
Speaking of which, right now my ST has Win10 installed, but performance is bad. I'm thinking of installing clean ubuntu (from Minimal CD) with i3 WM to get maximum out of that hardware. On other laptop with similar specs such setup looks very promising
Hi all,
I was doing a bit of research to find any news about Ubuntu Touch on x86 platform. But i could not find much of info
So i start this thread for those who are interested to know (Includes me) about UBUNTU Touch on x86 Platform.
Below are the list of good phones with Intel Atom processors. As Ubuntu good with Intel Processors , it should be easy to post to x86 Phones.
Please post if you have any ROM here for Intel phones.
Asus Zenphone 5 & 6 are good & affordable phones to start with.
PS: This is my post. So apologise for the brevity & mistakes
In theory it should be possible to run Ubuntu on an x86 phone as there is also an x86 emulator. I don't know of any actual ROM though.
Thanks. And is there any active development happening on x86 Ubuntu phone ?
And I assume it would be easy to build one . as Ubuntu and x86 is going along for a while now
That would be my ideal phone that can act as a desktop when docked and a phone for the rest.
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I don't think that any hardware manufacturer is currently working on an x86 phone. The two phones which will be released later this year will run on the armhf architecture.
Oh, and please note that as of now it does not covert into a desktop environment yet.
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Love Ihis Idea!
Yes we need development in this area, yes there are a few x86 phones out there like the Intel AZ210 being the most advertised and some others the only complaint about x86 phones is they are the gas hog of the Mobile world but hopefully the Intel M micro processor can lead us into the age of X86 phones. and i would love for some one to port ubuntu touch to one of these devices, please please please!:laugh:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
chaithanyaprasad said:
May not be today but in an year or two Intel processor will be efficient (if not battery technology will improve) . so by then software should be ready to be in implemented.
To start with , does x86 Ubuntu touch build exist?
Where can I get them?
And what and all I need to port them to Asus Zenfone lineup?
And what is the status of the scalable UI? (UI that morphs into a desktop when docked)
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but the UI does not converge (which is the expression they use for the scaling) yet. Currently, they are focusing on bringing the OS to a state which can be released to manufacturers (that's what they call their rtm milestone). According to Canonical and Meizu (one of the two manufacturers) we can see Ubuntu phones later this year, probably in December! During the next development cycle they will then start work on the desktop UI. The current desktop images which use Unity 8 only display the tablet UI.
What about the x86 Ubuntu touch images?
x86 is the 32 bit architecture, right? Images for an i386 emulator are already available out there. If you want to install it on your Ubuntu desktop, check out the Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
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Never mind, forgot about droidboot instead of uefi. *sigh* we need a grub friendly drodboot.
Android kernel boots with out grub. Can we do something similar
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Any news for Ubuntu Touch x86?(Intel Atom z3580) Tnx
For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
A combination of all the above!
Smart nuclear powered anti-starship laser guns.
Just kidding, possibly a wireless router or a media server.
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
tailslol said:
well I like something like win 7 ultimate. with a htpc media center,good gaming and nice professional os with good look.
not the current flat look but something more 3d like seven was.
but I am sure you prefer a idea for your Android stuff...
so what about jide making intel cherry trail devices? those could be nice for TV box or computer? or good snapdragon with long term support?
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Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
moriel5 said:
Or MediaTek, but force them to give you updated kernel sources and release them to the public.
Just saying because MTK chips last longer, and perform better (except for GPU performance) than counterpart Snapdragon chips.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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not mediatek they hide their resources sometime. and absolutely not Allwinner their chip are ****s... Rockchip or amilogic S is OK in the worse case scenario...
NVIDIA tegra are pricey but good for all in ones.especialy with Google support behind.
Or you can cheat on the support by using same Chips as Android one phones, nexus. or pixel..so no source hiding.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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Did you not see what I had witten about forcing MediaTek to release their kernel sources?
Rockchip also hides many of their kernel sources, and are a pain to work with, (I had to use an ancient computer from over a decade ago, and had to install Windows XP, since it wouldn't work with anything newer).
Allwinner are a solid choice, since they are much more open with their sources, and are much easier to work with, it's just that not many developers work with them, but those that do, testify to them being much easier to work with.
About Amlogic, I have no idea.
Nvidia, are really good, but are even worse than MediaTek and Rockchip at releasing kernel sources, so unless it's the same chipset as the Nexus 9, it needs to be out of the question.
But please no BIG.little processors, they are great on paper, however in the real world, while they deliver, they don't deliver even close to what they should, ending up being a waste of money, since the worth:cost ratio is much farther.
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the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
tailslol said:
the thing about big little... nowadays with the failure of TV boxes and the slow death of tablets most big company are targeting the phone market.
and big little is mostly for phones ...
but I think the only problem is not targeting the lower end or not using too old than 2 years chips and sometime it is just better to spend a lil more for higher support and better performances.
on Nvidia side almost all chips have been open sourced by Google long time ago.
the tegra x1 in pixel c the tegra 2 3 4 and k1 in nexus tablets... so yea....
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Ah sorry, I had checked it.
And it looks like they have their own code repository now, so things have definitely changed.
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For all the developers on this board, what if you had...
a higher powered Mini
AOSP, let's say Marshmallow or better
all the dev tools you'd need to get to work
...what would you, could you dream to develop this computer to do?
TV box? Gaming console? Android PC? Smart home device?
Please share with us your brainstorm ideas on this. Have fun with it and don't think about what's already out on the market... think out of the box, reach for the stars, and all the other cliches you can think of. Please share in the comments below.
Thanks!
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I would build my own version of Android!
Dual boot as much as possible!
Publish my Project ROC quicker
What about using the mini along with wireless display, and use them as a home security/automation hub? Allowing many apps and already existing "connected" devices like Philips HUE, WiFi Cameras, etc to connect and be configured for automation. Then assigning older android devices to pair and be set in various rooms, to be used as wifi motion detectors.
Well as a developer, I'd improve the way I interact with my devices as an user.
Chromecast and Android Home devices are great but they're not how the future should actually look. In my opinion Google is limiting hardware on those devices to keep prices low and make them impossible to run upcoming software, more powerful software.
Okay let's say we have an AIO device (similar to Android Home) but with a few sets of functionality baked in:
- Network attached Storage: Store all the things you want to share with the family (photos, music, movies...)
- Network attached Storage: Stream whatever is hosted in the box to the "cast enabled devices around the device"
- Network attached Storage: Synced folders between family devices per user request (similar to how resilio sync works)
- Network attached Storage: Remote access for downloads (you're out of home but you start a download that will be waiting for you when you arrive)
- Assistant: Always On Keyword detection
- Assistant: Customized context-aware commands per user inside the network (If John or his devices are not connected to the Wireless network or discoverable through BLE don't suggest content that he might like)
- Assistant: TV as a remote interface of the device with a dashboard, the device microphone as a IO device of the TV.
- Assistant: Device state awareness, notify when battery is low on x device.
BRAINSTORM -- What if Jide actually focused on getting the projects they currently have out working to perfection instead of coming out with new semi broken products?! Then, when everything worked as best as possible, Jide could come out with new stuff that makes the current goodness even better!!!! Wow, what a novel concept!
If i had it, (and if i can), I'll bring the android code and libs to windows,, it's just like WINE on Ubuntu, and isn't like the ancient emulator which is kill my usage
So,, yes... I'll open the play store just when i click it in my windows PC's, installing apk just in Program Files (Android) folder, using linux or android command in cmd (like bash actually) and getting a root access with just allow the UAC
When I click the mirror downloads button I get a "This site can't be reached" error. I can't use the torrent download link where I am.
Vdekjeza said:
When I click the mirror downloads button I get a "This site can't be reached" error. I can't use the torrent download link where I am.
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The reason is because Jide has left the consumer market, and had completely stopped supporting their consumer products.
Now they only work with enterprises.
Try Phoenix OS instead.
Download torrent.
moriel5 said:
The reason is because Jide has left the consumer market, and had completely stopped supporting their consumer products.
Now they only work with enterprises.
Try Phoenix OS instead.
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How does Phoenix compare with Remix? Will it work on a TW700 tablet? I have been trying for over a week to load Remix 3.0 with zero success
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Shehzada said:
How does Phoenix compare with Remix? Will it work on a TW700 tablet? I have been trying for over a week to load Remix 3.0 with zero success
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To say the truth, I had not gotten the chance to check Phoenix OS lately.
However, since you have a BayTrail CPU (those did not get much supportĺ I think that you're better off with the Android-X86 LOS or standard Linux (I highly recommend Solus, and the GNOME 3 UI has great support for touch displays), and even then, you will need to compile some of the drivers yourself (such as the touch driver for the screen, until you do so, you will absolutely have to connect a mouse and keyboard).
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To say the truth, I had not gotten the chance to check Phoenix OS lately.
However, since you have a BayTrail CPU (those did not get much supportĺ I think that you're better off with the Android-X86 LOS or standard Linux (I highly recommend Solus, and the GNOME 3 UI has great support for touch displays), and even then, you will need to compile some of the drivers yourself (such as the touch driver for the screen, until you do so, you will absolutely have to connect a mouse and keyboard).
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Thank you so much. I am checking your recommendations as i type this.
My other problem is the 1GB Ram. Which one of those you think will work best.
I am planning on connecting it via HDMI to my TV and running just 1 android app (hmdi audio/video is all i need). I don't care about touchscreen support.
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Shehzada said:
Thank you so much. I am checking your recommendations as i type this.
My other problem is the 1GB Ram. Which one of those you think will work best.
I am planning on connecting it via HDMI to my TV and running just 1 android app (hmdi audio/video is all i need). I don't care about touchscreen support.
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With only 1 GB of RAM, I highly recommend using Android-x86's LOS 15.1 (you will still need to compile the touch driver for the screen, and probably other drivers as well, including audio and HDMI.
Thanks...will let u know how it goes.
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You were right. I wasn't able to find LOS 15.1 but did boot 14.1 and though it did reboot on its own twice, it did finally load. It was however very slow.
I tried it on the TW801 which has 2GB Ram and it was more fluid. Touchscreen did work and so did Wifi. Hdmi audio was the bummer.
I have officially given up installing android on the TW700.....I don't think tje tablet is capable of running it well and even if it did.... HDMI audio will be a lost cause.
Thanks for your help....i appreciate it and at least I did finally got to see android on it.
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Shehzada said:
You were right. I wasn't able to find LOS 15.1 but did boot 14.1 and though it did reboot on its own twice, it did finally load. It was however very slow.
I tried it on the TW801 which has 2GB Ram and it was more fluid. Touchscreen did work and so did Wifi. Hdmi audio was the bummer.
I have officially given up installing android on the TW700.....I don't think tje tablet is capable of running it well and even if it did.... HDMI audio will be a lost cause.
Thanks for your help....i appreciate it and at least I did finally got to see android on it.
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Wait, how about you try running a standard Linux distribution on it?
You may still need to compile the drivers, however there is a higher chance that things will work properly after running updates and rebooting without any compilations.
I tried ubuntu live...slow on the 700 better on the 801. I ordered an Android box..... should receive it today. Lol
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Shehzada said:
I tried ubuntu live...slow on the 700 better on the 801. I ordered an Android box..... should receive it today. Lol
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However did touch work properly?
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However did touch work properly?
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Touch did not work.
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Shehzada said:
Touch did not work.
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And this was Ubuntu 18.04, correct?
I tried 16.04.4 64 bit
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Shehzada said:
I tried 16.04.4 64 bit
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Why such an old version?
18.04 has a much newer kernel (I think 4.14 or 4.15), and as such, has a much higher chance of working properly with your hardware (you may still need to compile drivers, however it's not too hard when people have already prepared the code and instructions for you), plus, it uses GNOME rather than Unity (which is discontinued by Canonical), which is at version 3.28, a release that brought many optimizations to system resources, so it should run more smoothly.
Also, when installed, it'll be be much faster, since the internal NAND is much faster than a USB drive, partly because of the fact that it ustilizes the SATA protocol, rather than the USB protocol, and partly because the chip is just way faster.
I thought that my limitation is the poor processor and the RAM. If I had a celeron it would fly.
These tablets are only good for the operating system they came with from the factory.
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I thought that my limitation is the poor processor and the RAM. If I had a celeron it would fly.
These tablets are only good for the operating system they came with from the factory.
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While an Atom processor is certainly no fun (I have an old Dell Inspiron mini 1018, so I know how it feels), it can be faster than you think.
That old laptop (it was also my first laptop) has a single core Atom CPU, from the N series (the N455), and I was running it with Windows 7.
While it does not have an OS right now (I accidentally broke the keyboard connector on the motherboard while testing RAM sticks for work (I volunteered to do this), and salvaged the hard drive for my desktop (I have 12 hard drives, and 10 trays, 2 of which are are for 2.5" drives. The hard drives were all, save for one, which was bought second hand together with the computer (the case was bought seperately), salvaged from old PCs that people had thrown away), it runs alright on Ubuntu (and slightly better on Solus), however you have a quad-core Atom, which also generates less heat (so less throttling), so it will run much better.
I am not saying that the OS will fly, after all, it does not have a core i3 CPU, however it will outperform your expectation.
Thanks. Today I can't wait to get home to the Android box being delivered.
When I get some time....i will try to load 18.04 and report back. Thanks again.
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