Could the Kingston 16gb Class 10 be good? Has anybody bought one? - G1 Accessories

I hear different stories in regards to the SD capacity the G1 can hold. I was wondering if the new Kingston 16gb Class 10 would be okay. Yes I said CLASS 10.
Below is the link to the different SD sizes available:
http://www.kingston.com/flash/sdhc_micro.asp
What do the Hardcore G1 users say?

kadster007 said:
I hear different stories in regards to the SD capacity the G1 can hold. I was wondering if the new Kingston 16gb Class 10 would be okay.
What do the Hardcore G1 users say?
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I use a 16gb Micro SD in my G1 with a 900mb partition for a2sd. You will be fine with 16gb

sadly we've been on the 16gb limit for microSDHC for more then a year (almost two years) with 32GB being possible but nothing as of yet

G_won said:
sadly we've been on the 16gb limit for microSDHC for more then a year (almost two years) with 32GB being possible but nothing as of yet
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I'm surprised no one has heard yet...
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc

tekkitan said:
I'm surprised no one has heard yet...
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc
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We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
Here's something interesting:
http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
(Ignore the picture. )

r3s-rt said:
We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
Here's something interesting:
http://www.physorg.com/news143893844.html
(Ignore the picture. )
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Why wouldn't 32gb be compatible?
edit: also, the max possible for the MicroSDHC standard is 32gb. I think your link is bunk

tekkitan said:
Why wouldn't 32gb be compatible?
edit: also, the max possible for the MicroSDHC standard is 32gb. I think your link is bunk
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http://www.google.com/search?client...&source=hp&q=microsd+128gb&btnG=Google+Search
You are VERY WRONG about "max possible standard." There is no "max possible" as technology such as this advances. 128gb today, 256 tomorrow.
Because they are not. I don't know WHY. Your service manual tells you that. However, you're more than welcome to go buy a 32gb and try.

r3s-rt said:
http://www.google.com/search?client...&source=hp&q=microsd+128gb&btnG=Google+Search
You are VERY WRONG about "max possible standard." There is no "max possible" as technology such as this advances. 128gb today, 256 tomorrow.
Because they are not. I don't know WHY. Your service manual tells you that. However, you're more than welcome to go buy a 32gb and try.
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Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.

tekkitan said:
Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.
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Sorry, you must as misread what you quoted.
I said max POSSIBLE standard. A POSSIBLE in there means that it is possible to raise. Have you noticed class 10 isn't in there, but there ARE class 10 cards. I bet you links to Google and prove that.
Did you know there was actually a

r3s-rt said:
Sorry, you must as misread what you quoted.
I said max POSSIBLE standard. A POSSIBLE in there means that it is possible to raise. Have you noticed class 10 isn't in there, but there ARE class 10 cards. I bet you links to Google and prove that.
Did you know there was actually a
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You didn't finish your post lol
Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't misread anything. MicroSD is a STANDARD. MicroSDHC is a STANDARD. When MicroSDXC comes out, it will be a STANDARD.
Do some research first before you start trying to act like you know what you are talking about. kthx

tekkitan said:
You didn't finish your post lol
Apparently you have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't misread anything. MicroSD is a STANDARD. MicroSDHC is a STANDARD. When MicroSDXC comes out, it will be a STANDARD.
Do some research first before you start trying to act like you know what you are talking about. kthx
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Let me finish my post... [Edit, just noticed I did finish it, reworded it and forgot to erase old wording. ]
There are class 10 cards, but they are not officially accepted in the standard. BUT THEY EXIST! orly?!
You're going on about something we weren't even talking about. I assumed we were talking about the maximum limit of the sdhc standard. What did you take it as?
Let me rephrase my initial post, there's no maximum limit to the standard. Are you happy now?
Before trying to insult me, how about YOU try research before posting? In this case it would actually be READING before you post instead of seeing a word and thinking it's wrong.

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Let me finish my post... [Edit, just noticed I did finish it, reworded it and forgot to erase old wording. ]
There are class 10 cards, but they are not officially accepted in the standard. BUT THEY EXIST! orly?!
You're going on about something we weren't even talking about. I assumed we were talking about the maximum limit of the sdhc standard. What did you take it as?
Let me rephrase my initial post, there's no maximum limit to the standard. Are you happy now?
Before trying to insult me, how about YOU try research before posting? In this case it would actually be READING before you post instead of seeing a word and thinking it's wrong.
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Wow. Your ignorance knows no bounds. I'm not even going to bother replying to your nonsense.

ok so back on topic (months later)...
DO/WILL class 10 cards work in the G1/Dream? Anyone running one? I was considering getting a 16GB Class 10 off amazon. I originally planned on a class 6, then google lead me to info on a class 8, which amazon then showed me the 10... oh my!

malfuncion said:
ok so back on topic (months later)...
DO/WILL class 10 cards work in the G1/Dream? Anyone running one? I was considering getting a 16GB Class 10 off amazon. I originally planned on a class 6, then google lead me to info on a class 8, which amazon then showed me the 10... oh my!
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Although not under the same title, it should give some insight:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4113-sd-card-speeds-and-swap/
Basically, the hardware in the Dream is only capable of read/write speeds around the class 6 area. Anything higher will get you a class 6 speed tops. Honestly, probably isn't worth the cash to get a class 8 or 10. Get one only if you're going to use the card in a camera, where you may need to dump RAW images on the fly. It's just not worth it otherwise.

r3s-rt said:
We all know a 32gb exists.
It's just not compatible with a Dream or Sapphire.
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32gb microsd works on my g1

XBrav said:
Although not under the same title, it should give some insight:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/4113-sd-card-speeds-and-swap/
Basically, the hardware in the Dream is only capable of read/write speeds around the class 6 area. Anything higher will get you a class 6 speed tops. Honestly, probably isn't worth the cash to get a class 8 or 10. Get one only if you're going to use the card in a camera, where you may need to dump RAW images on the fly. It's just not worth it otherwise.
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Thanks for the information, that's exactly what I was searching for!
Saved me from spending some extra unnecessary dollars.

tekkitan said:
Do you know how retarded that sounds?
The G1 supports the MicroSDHC standard. It is limited to whatever size the MicroSDHC standard supports.
Regardless what Google search you link, 32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware supporting SDHC can use them.
If you'll look at your own links, they refer to the card as "128gb MicroSD". No mention of it being SDHC. An SDXC card will be an SD standard, but a device will need to support SDXC just like they support SDHC these days.
You can Google all you want, but all I see are a bunch of links from web sites that aren't official press releases from Sandisk themselves and all two years old.
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Riiight.
Okay, so because you obviously don't know how storage works in regards to addressing, I'll explain it to you. At the time the Dream/G1 was originally released the 16GB MicroSD card was in the foreseeable future, but not a reality. 32GB wasn't in their crosshairs because it was beyond the 2 year limit. When phones are released, manufacturers usually only look to the average life of the phone for what it will support, which is about 2 years because that's how often the average person replaces their phone. Memory addressing is done via drivers, not hardware. For example: 32bit Computer Operating Systems support a maximum of 2.9GB of Random Access Memory, unless you add a PAE driver (Physical Address Extension) which allows the hardware to access addresses beyond their original limit by adding an additional level to the page table hierarchy which allows for 52-bit physical addressing on 32bit hardware. So, yes... an update -could- be written for the Dream/G1 to allow 32GB SDHC addressing, but don't expect it to come from HTC or Google. Their answer when 32GB cards become 'affordable' to the average consumer will be to buy a new phone, but if we look at the PC standards, it is very possible that a kernel module could be written to do something similar to PAE and allow 52bit SDHC addressing. With 32gb being the 32bit maximum, I'm sure 128GB+ could fall well within the 52bit area.
So, no. The Dream/G1 will not accept anything above 16GB without a kernel module, but with the custom kernels and instructions for compiling your own out there, someone will undoubtedly write a custom kernel for 32GB storage once it becomes practical to do so, or port the kernel from a newer device that supports it already.

malfuncion said:
Thanks for the information, that's exactly what I was searching for!
Saved me from spending some extra unnecessary dollars.
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I don't know how the classes work entirely, my area is mostly in capacities and addressing, but unless it's a true hardware limitation, a kernel module could be written to allow Class 10 speeds, but honestly I'd get the class 10 myself because of writing from other devices -> SD. Like sideloading music to your card from your computer.

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Is this microSDHC / 8 GB tested?

Hello, i am looking for a card, will this work
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171169
Also has anyone tested an 8GB SDHC? like this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178151
I am not sure if this are micro are not. When i go to newegg, MicroSD and SDHC are different categories. Thanks for any help.
UllSang,
The links you posted are for Secure Digital (SD) card sizes. The Hermes uses microSD cards. These are much smaller physically.
Both SD and microSD have the high capacity version (SDHC and microSDHC).
MicroSDHC cards work on the Hermes only with the latest cooked versions of WM6.
The second one is a standard 8GB SD card, afaik there isnt an 8GB MicroSDHC just yet.
We know 4GB microSDHC definatly works (you need a recent version of WM6).
you do realize those are sd cards right?
oooppss. . .sorry.. didnt realize sombebody has made the correct point.
hey mrvanx sir. you might want to fix the link on your ROM: part of your signature.. (or is that just a teaser? )
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
http://www.google.com/products?q=4gb+microsdhc
UllSang said:
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
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y? if u need space, just get a 2GB microSD. dont u want to upgrade to a VGA pdaphone very soon? i'm not sure if the real Imate 7150 or HTC omni support microSD or not
What do you mean a VGA pda phone? I also just bought my Hermes therefore i would rather not spend a lot of cash on a new phone.
Man those 4 GB SDHC cards are soo expensive. i can get a few 4 2GB for the price of one of those.
8Gb microSDHC card
An 8GB card is on its way but when who knows, check it out at http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/phone...b-into-tiny-microsd-card?articleid=1995413938
SanDisk 6mb and 8mb here by the year end.
weebit said:
An 8GB card is on its way but when who knows, check it out at http://www.tech.co.uk/gadgets/phone...b-into-tiny-microsd-card?articleid=1995413938
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I posted this article on the above subject. This wil shed a little light on the subject.
Cheers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316860
UllSang said:
Hmm. I had a feeling that it was not microSD. Good think i asked before i bought one. So can anyone point me in the direction of a 4GB microSDHC? Thanks a bunch.
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This is the one i got and is working great.
Thanks for all the great information everyone.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/news
SanDisk today announced that it is has begun sampling 6 and 8 gigabyte (GB) microSD High Capacity (microSDHC) flash memory cards to major phone manufacturers and mobile network operators (MNOs) for testing and evaluation. The new cards are ideal for the growing number of feature-rich multimedia handsets that bring together phones, music players, hand-held computers, digital cameras and more. An 8GB microSDHC card can store more than 2,000 digital songs, or more than 5,000 high-resolution pictures, or up to 5 hours of high-quality MPEG 4 video2.
Retail release of the cards and availability to phone manufacturers and network operators are planned for later in 2007.
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agoyeneche said:
UllSang,MicroSDHC cards work on the Hermes only with the latest cooked versions of WM6.
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Will LVSW 3.30.2.1 version support 4GBMicroSDHC cards? That's what I'm using.
Check your build # and read!! This HAS been asked many times before. Hint-- There are other threads concerning 4gb microsdhc.

8GB Micro SD

Ok, so from my research, the 8GB Micro SD is not yet widely available or even on the shelves (correct me if I wrong). But, according to the various sites I've looked at these size cards are well on there way to being released.
I know the new standard of SDHC SD card are available in 8GB and possibly above, but I have now got a Hermes, so wanted to try going higher in Micro SD. Presently I use both a 2GB and a 4GB Micro SD, depending on what I'm needing to store.
Size wise 4GB it great as options for storage are vast.
But I wanted to see it there was any further news as to the new 8GB or higher that I'd read somewhere?
Having looked on line I could only find the following:
6GB Micro SD
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Pre-ordering only?
1: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/6GB/Micro/SDHC/Card
= SanDisk 6GB Micro SDHC Card £69.99
8GB Micro SD
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Pre-ordering only?
2: http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/8GB/Micro/SDHC/Cardhttp://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/SanDisk/6GB/Micro/SDHC/Card
= SanDisk 8GB Micro SDHC Card £99.99
Since upgrading the Hermes ROM on my phone to WM6 which was purely to allow it to use the 4GB Micro SD I had bought (I swear by SanDisk as have NEVER had a problem with them in over 5 years of assorted SD cards)
Am going to keep looking over the next few weeks and would be interested in any feedback if any others have found any news about higher capacity versions.
I have no idea if WM6 will be able to read higher than 4GB but my guess would be a resounding YES! on the grounds of what I have a feeling is WM6 full? SDHC support. whereas WM5 on the Orange version of the Hermes 'SPV M3100' had only partial support and can only recognize 2GB sized Cards.
N_C
PS: if this post is in the wrong place or out of date can a mod sort it out and remove or move it. Many thanks. Just wanted to share my interest and findings on these Micro beasties thats all.
You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
frenchglen said:
You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
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The six (6) GB link was intentional bud. I have researched "above and beyond" the 4GB size. Happened to find the 6GB link on same site so added it as I didn't know if like myself others were also unaware of this specification.
Cheers anyway.
You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.
Wow, 8G! Wish I had known that before splashing out on an 8G Zen MP3 player.
Thanks for the spot!
Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?
I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:
[....]
Good morning
The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
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Teorically an microsd reader could be support the HD format through a firmware update...
Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
From italy,
Mattia
MattiaRs-- There many threads in this forum about people using sdhc cards in their hermes with the newer builds of ROM. You gotta search and read.
RemE said:
You missed his point, your 8gig link is incorrect, it links to the 6gig ad.
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Sorted, and thanks.
frenchglen said:
You accidentally posted the 6GB page, if you change the "6" to "8" in the URL you'll get what you meant for the second post.
Wow thanks for those links can't wait to get my hands on 8GB of freakin memory! I'm very impressed with MicroSDHC and am so glad the Hermes can take the always (albeit gradual) increasing card capacities, without new hardware needed.
Take that, iPhone! (don't worry, i love you too)
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Corrected. Didn't realize the mistake. Thanks dude.
MattiaRs said:
Are you sure the hermes does support the micro sdhd?
I wrote yesterday to htc to ask what is the max size of microsd that hermer support, and the follow is the answer:
[....]
Good morning
The max size card your device supports is 2GB. It will not support HC (High Capacity) memory cards. Please see our recommended product below:
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=143529
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Ps: What is the difference betwen micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
From italy,
Mattia
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When a representative from Orange looked into this on my behalf, he also was told me that HTC was only recommending that the Hermes be used with 2GB Micro SD cards, as that was the limit they (HTC) would guarantee.
When I first tested cards out prior to a firmware update to WM6, the above was indeed true.
However, my Hermes now runs WM6 and uses a 4GB SDHC Micro SD Card on a daily basis without ever having a problem.
I have no idea if this will be true of higher spec cards such as the 6GB or the 8GB or even anything higher, but I feel confident that it will. But that is just my opinion as until tried and tested its down to guesswork whether or not other card sizes will be recognized.
PS: you asked what is the difference between micro SDHD and micro SDHC?
The answer is that I have NEVER heard of Micro SDHD. To me that is a High Definition tag and not one that refers to any card type.
I've only ever known SDHC.
Even Google comes back with: "Did you mean SDHC" Maybe others know of this type of card?
Originally Posted by RemE
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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I have deleted my original reply due to better response
See post (#13) from whatledog
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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You could walk into a verizon store anytime and pick up a card, if you wanted. Other people have been able to order 4gb cards-- you could, also. READ!!!
Transcend 4GB SD with Exec loses data randomly --please help.
Hello there,
I read you people are using 4GB SD without any problems, you might solve my problem.
I am using one on my Exec with WM6,(ROM 2.02.02,Radio 1.15, Protocol 42.51.P8, no ext rom) and facing a weird problem.The card loses the data for no apparent reason.The folder viz. My document has just been emptied and I lost my all ebooks--150 MB.
The file explorer shows the card contains 776 Mb data while the 'Resco explorer' shows 1007 Mb,in setting-memory-storage card it shows 1007 Mb,but it actually has only 776 Mb data, so I have lost 150 Mb data permanently and 300 Mb storage space on card!
This is the THIRD time it has happened and on previous occasions I had the card replaced.I am fed up with this problem,is it the card itself or the Exec or the WM6 or the ROM which is causing this problem?
Is there any way to retrieve the data and the memory lost from the card, for I think it is there and it just hidden somewhere...I hope.
I am not a techie,(medical doctor--using Exec more as a PDA than a communicator)hence the lengthy description ,thanks in advance,sorry for the intrusion.
bye.
sorry for the hastles your having
I wish I could help you further but apart from what I have read relating to the Hermes I can't.
I would hazard a guess and say that it sounds more like the Operating System / ROM which perhaps is not handling the card properly.
Best if you put up a new post on the main board and ask for help.
I hope you get it sorted as I know from my own problems similar to your missing card data how really annoying this problem is. I do know that I have had two SD card made by transcend. I used them for 6 months without a hitch. I put movies and files on them both for University and work use and used them in my previous phone which was an English version of the Prophet (Orange SPV M600)
Point is that in my own experience, Transcend are indeed a reliable brand or storage card. So it doesn't sound like a card problem in my opinion. Perhaps you may new to look at updating the ROM? I have no knowledge of your phone model "Exec" so can't help. But as I said best if you ask for help on the board. Maybe on various boards if you've had no luck already. Someone may have previously owned an Exec and might be able to shed some light on this problem.
Kalya-- You need to post your problem on the Universal forums, not the Hermes. There, hopefully, you will get the help you need. Different models react differently to various things. May you find your solutions...
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1
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http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSD-Transflash-Adapter-Packaging/dp/B000SMVQK8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-7909473-9305455?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1185213672&sr=8-1
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Did the price just go up? I swear I just saw them on Amazon for about $54.
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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From what I've been told, Sandisk made a deal with Verizon so they are the only approved suppliers in the US for one year. You can buy the 4GB miro SDHC card from them or any Verizon distributor (even Circuit City). However, they are more expensive than Amazon...
RemE said:
I found it very difficult to get a 4gig microSD card in the US. I keep seeing these cards in the UK but they don't ship here. Does anyone have links to any companies for even a pre-order.
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Amazon.com
Ijust got my Sandisk 4gb sdhc today... woohhhoooo

Dream support MicroSDHC 8gb??

Hi, im going to buy a MicroSDHC 8gb, Class 4, but im not sure if it is compatible, can someone say me if whether is compatible?
thanks
Hi, im going to buy a MicroSDHC 8gb, Class 4, but im not sure if it is compatible, can someone say me if whether is compatible?
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8GB are supported. I use a 8GB Class 4 by myself, without probs.
ID# said:
8GB are supported. I use a 8GB Class 4 by myself, without probs.
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thanks you very much One last question, doesnt affect if is microSD or microSDHC?
im using a nokia 8gb class 4 recovered from a craked 5800 and is working fine.
.victor said:
thanks you very much One last question, doesnt affect if is microSD or microSDHC?
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I do believe anything over 4gb is classified as a SDHC. If you can get a class 6 that would be better as it is faster.
16gig's works as well with the possibility of 32. I just don't know if anyone has tried 32gig's
I don't even know of any 32gb micro sd card for sale.
Newegg doesn't carry them.
I am running a 16gb Ridata class 6 and it works fine.
However for the price, I would have to suggest a sandisk Ultra 8gb micro sd
It has about 3 times the read speed as my class 6.
They are both about $50
I wanted more space for media storage and I port around several apps that I use on different computers.
[email protected] said:
I don't even know of any 32gb micro sd card for sale.
Newegg doesn't carry them.
I am running a 16gb Ridata class 6 and it works fine.
However for the price, I would have to suggest a sandisk Ultra 8gb micro sd
It has about 3 times the read speed as my class 6.
They are both about $50
I wanted more space for media storage and I port around several apps that I use on different computers.
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I don't know of anyone who carries them either but 32 gig's is part of the Micro SDHC standard and on adverts for best buy I do notice the logo for some phones that they can accept 32gigs cards. They are around though but I believe mostly in Asia and in small numbers.
Also I'm not sure but I don't think the slot on the G1 takes advantage of anything faster then class 6 for SDHC memory cards. This is because it would draw more voltage and the device might get to hot.
32GB Class 4's are supported.
Suminderji said:
32GB Class 4's are supported.
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Thats too big, and probably expensive. Should be saving those pennies for nexus..
I just purchased a 32GB microSDHC on ebay for under $30!!! Just got it in the mail and have been testing it to make sure it actually works, and it works fine. I am having a few problems. Nothing really major, just some issues between the phone, Windows 7, and Lucid Lynx Ubuntu. The phone, as well as Windows 7 only recognizes 31.2 GB and Ubuntu recognizes 34GB. I am unable to partition the card for Apps2SD with the console, parted, or in Ubuntu. In Amon RA's recovery it says it has partitioned the card but the time it takes to do it is too fast. In parted I get an input\output error and it asks me if i want to retry\ignore\cancel and parted is only recognizing 33.6GB. If i retry or cancel in parted it goes through and the print command says my partitions are there as I have set them up but the phone and Ubuntu don't recognize them and disk utility in Ubuntu says my ext partition is not clean when I run the partition check. I don't know what else to try and have put this here only because the 32GB card is mentioned. Any and all help and info is very much appreciated.
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Sorry dude, I think you were scammed. eBay is notorious for these fake cards. Allow me to explain.
A lot of this stuff popped up when the PSP came out. People wanted cheap Memory Stick Pro Duo cards. These manufacturers found a way to hack the sectors, making the card look bigger than it actually is. You could make a 1gb card look like a 4gb card.
Firstly, you would get tons of I/O errors. This is because it is trying to address places that simply don't exist.
Secondly, the memory would fail at random intervals. This was because they bought cheap flash chips.
The problem is that there is no way to guarantee authenticity from eBay unless you're buying it direct from the manufacturer.
IMO, only buy Sandisk products. They are the only ones reliable out there. And yes, they aren't the cheapest, but they are the most reliable.
Here is the best pricing I could find for you:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1280509434&sr=1-1
Being though Amazon, you can trust it IMO.

64 gb micros....unbelievable

Has anyone seen this? http://tinyurl.com/ybz2qfd
man that's crazy, although the 64's won't work with g1, I think its expandable capacity is only 32gb, but that's still big! Not sure of the class #'s on these bad boys, but I'm sure if there aren't any 6 or 10 class versions available yet it won't be long!
EDIT: nevermind, they're all 32's.....the 64gb has something to do with flash or whatever, IDK
32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
goldenarmZ said:
32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
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LOL way to kill the mans thread, jesus.
oreoOozZz said:
LOL way to kill the mans thread, jesus.
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Lol it was dead way before he killed it my friend
lol hey I'd be set if I can get 32GB in MicroSDHC, and there's no whispers of THAT coming out as of yet
G_won said:
lol hey I'd be set if I can get 32GB in MicroSDHC, and there's no whispers of THAT coming out as of yet
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Strange you should say that....
hxxp://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/shop/detail.asp?ProductID=5614&CategoryID=410&SubCategoryID=433
As I'm a newbie, I can't post external links.... but apparently CAN post links where "http" have been changed to "hxxp". I spotted this link earlier today, from Morgan Computers - a BIG hardware-clearance company in New Oxford Street, London. £51 for a 32Gig SDHC card.
" The 32GB SDHC memory card is German made, leading edge technology at its best! It also comes with a lifetime manufacturer warranty.
The 32GB SD Card offers high storage capacity with a write speed of 10MBytes/s and a read speed of 20MBytes/s. It is ideal for new generation digital camera and other applications with SDHC cards slots.
Compatible with All SDHC devices
32GB stores approx 1200 x 10MP Photos, 545 Hours of MP3
May be in Eco Friendly Bulk Packaging
*Please Note: SDHC cards will only work in devices that are compatible with the Higher SDHC Specification cards"
I'm going to invest in one of these for my (new!) Desire - my two G-1's will have to continue to make-do with 8 Gig Sandisk TF cards.
You let us all know how that works.
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You let us all know how that works.
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I have two 32GB SDHC's, one is class 2, the other class 6.
The class 2 works but it's insanely slow and it consumes a lot of battery due to the extra hot time required for reads and writes.
The class 6 is extremely fast and doesn't cause noticeable battery drain.
So am I correct in assuming that the higher the class number, the faster the performance & lower the power usage?
goldenarmZ said:
32gb is the addressable limit of the SDHC standard.. when 64gb cards appear they will be SDXC, which means no current hardware can use them. Awesome.
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Meh. Until there's a PAE firmware released for the device. Like how a 32bit OS can only handle 4GB RAM until you enable PAE. (In windows, you can simply "turn it on", in linux you need a kernel with a PAE module enabled)
PAE, or Physical Address Extension, should allow for a 52 bit limit on physical memory but only supports a 48-bit virtual address space. 4 × 10245 bytes, or 4 Petabytes and 256 × 10244 bytes or 256 Terabytes, respectively. (What that means is, if the hardware doesn't support 52 bit addresses natively, then they highest capacity that can be reached via PAE is 256 Terabytes through virtualization.)
What does that mean for an android device? A PAE Kernel Module could be created to allow for addressing of more than 32 Gigabytes, how far past 32 Gigabytes? That I don't know. I would assume at least somewhere in the realm of 128-256 Gigabytes. I doubt there will ever be a MicroSD card at that capacity though. By the time we see affordable solid-state storage as small as MicroSD with a capacity over 64 Gigabytes it is unlikely that MicroSD will even still be around, and I doubt anyone will still be using the G1 anyway at that point. We're talking another 4 years or so, making the G1 an antique by technology standards.
tl;dr version: Once 64GB cards are affordable enough for it to be practical to put the time and effort into a firmware mod (kernel module,etc) for an android version of something resembling PAE, you can expect -someone- will figure out a way to enable 64GB usage in the G1.
I think we're gonna see faces like this: all the time, when it comes to electronics industry... I can still remember my first Intel 486 with a few MB HDD!
Man one of these would be nice!
For me 6gb is enough..
For music etc i have a mp3 player!
Here we are 2 years later, 256gb micro sd cards are just starting to appear on evilbay.
Also USB thumbdrives that can handle up to 512gb cards
I used my sandisk 64gb sdxc in my G1 with no issues !
KillaHurtz said:
I used my sandisk 64gb sdxc in my G1 with no issues !
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Why did you need so much space???
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MicroSD Card Recommendation

Although 99.999999999999999% of the MicroSD Cards which are 32GB are Class 2, I noted that the 16GB which Verizon stocked in the Rezound is a Class 4. I suspect that means we should go no lower than Class 4.
Anyone know of a good and legitimate 32GB SD card which is Class 4 or even better? I note that Class 6 and Class 10 all tend to be brands I have never heard of (other than 1 by PNY).
Recommendations are appreciated.
Sandisk has a class 4 32gb micro on Amazon for $37. I just ordered mine, and it should be here in a few days. I'll let you know what I think of it when it gets here.
Anything faster?
Anyone successfully use a Class 6 or 10 that was NOT a fake and actually worked close to speed?
This is a Class 10 but I don't want to guinea pig it
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC-Flash-Memory-P-SDU32G10-EFS2/dp/B005BOMU3K
Someone put in a 64gb, don't know what class, and the RZD formatted it and it worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353148
I asked about class in there and someone said unless you are going to move large amounts of stuff regularly then class 2 or 4 is fine.
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I asked about class in there and someone said unless you are going to move large amounts of stuff regularly then class 2 or 4 is fine.
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Yeah, the only real difference is the transfer time. If you're swapping a lot of data on a daily basis (like copies of your BluRay movies), then a higher class rating makes it go faster, but doesn't have any other effect on the performance of the phone, to my knowledge.
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Yeah, the only real difference is the transfer time. If you're swapping a lot of data on a daily basis (like copies of your BluRay movies), then a higher class rating makes it go faster, but doesn't have any other effect on the performance of the phone, to my knowledge.
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JD, there's a thread elsewhere on xda that talks about card speeds and basically recommends that the sweet spot is a 32g class 4 card. I have 3 of 'em (all bought at various sales just under $40). One is in my Rezound; one is in my tablet, and one is kept synced to the one in my phone via Microsoft Synctoy....because all cards ultimately fail.
i was reading somehwere that this may affect the speed of how videos write to the card if you save to card..is that true?
i'm gonna get a 32 gig as well, but should i go for class 4 or 6?
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JD, there's a thread elsewhere on xda that talks about card speeds and basically recommends that the sweet spot is a 32g class 4 card. I have 3 of 'em (all bought at various sales just under $40). One is in my Rezound; one is in my tablet, and one is kept synced to the one in my phone via Microsoft Synctoy....because all cards ultimately fail.
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Do you have an amazon link to the one you found to be the best?
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Someone put in a 64gb, don't know what class, and the RZD formatted it and it worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353148
I asked about class in there and someone said unless you are going to move large amounts of stuff regularly then class 2 or 4 is fine.
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Yeah that 64 GB is a class 6. It's part of Sandisk's new mobile ultra cards. They make em in all sizes I believe.
jayochs said:
i was reading somehwere that this may affect the speed of how videos write to the card if you save to card..is that true?
i'm gonna get a 32 gig as well, but should i go for class 4 or 6?
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That's a valid concern. I don't know the bitrate at which the camera records the various formats that it is capable of, but I'd say that a Class 4 is a safe bet in any case.
For a smartphone doing HD recording you want "atleast" a 4. Anything slower might get stuck in swapping. Personally I think it's one of those things with go with what you can afford/feel comfortable with. Though I'm also using a class 10 16GB since I can't stand being bogged down on transfers. I mean honestly, it's an LTE phone, not an HD camera. I don't need a 32gb, I stream everything.
Play back is a different story, a class 2 32gb works fine as long as the app does proper buffering. Though it will always load faster with a faster SD card.
"Sandisk has a 64GB micro SDHC card out, although its $219."
Ouch. Not cheap.
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"Sandisk has a 64GB micro SDHC card out, although its $219."
Ouch. Not cheap.
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This one works and is a much better price, especially when mom gives it to you for xmas.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...510U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1326679568&sr=8-2
Thread about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353148

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