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I know this is going to sound bad, but here it goes. I'll explain my situation first. My phone is a little physically damaged, I'm also having the common bluetooth, keyboard, reception issues on my Mogul. They wont replace it over the phone. If I take it into the store their going to say everything is working fine, but they aren't using it day in and day out. I know it's having these problems.
So, I'm going to brick the phone. Then they'll have to replace it. I'm cool with getting a new mogul, but dont want a refurb. I didn't pay for a refurb, so why should I get a refurb. Also, my phones only 4 months old.
So, how do I brick my Mogul? Can I just get the stock rom and unplug it when it says not to, or will the techs be able to fix that. Any recommendations please. Thanks.
Try starting a ROM firmware upgrade via active sync/USB cable method. Then at about 1/2 way through unplug that mofo....
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will the techs be able to get it out of the bootloader screen you think?
Flash one of the official older roms onto the mogul, then flash one of the new ones but leave it with the old radio intact. It will be unbootable and they will prob just give up and give you another one. Or you can mess up the bootloader by installing one of those floating around and unplug the phone during the bootloader upgrade. That should do it.
Can I do it with the stock sprint roms? I don't want to void warranty with the nonstock roms. Would they be able to tell? Can you give simple instructions? I've flashed roms, and I've even cooked roms up, but.. It's been a while.. Also, where would I come across these roms. I know I can download the sprint stock roms from their website. All the help is much appreciated!
I also came across microwaving for 5 seconds with the battery out.. Lol.. I processed that for about two seconds.. My luck, I'd get caught. lol.. This sounds so horrible, but they wont even work with me.. What am I paying the $7 TEP for, you know?
Microwaving for 5 seconds??? lol hilarious but that wont get you a replacement. I was paying for the $7 and then i downgraded to the $4 Equipment Replacement plan because the extra $3 i was paying (repair) was for nothing. When my phone went bad, I called them up and they told me I had to go through Asurion (insurance company). When i contacted Asurion, they asked me what was wrong and I told them that my keyboard no longer worked and that my touch screen capability was very limited and would only work on certain parts of the screen. They then advised that I would have to pay $50 deductible to have the phone replaced. I agreed but only under the condition that I would be receiving a new device and not a refurb. The rep agreed and shipped out a brand new one to me overnight for no additional charge. Phone currently works well.
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Or you can mess up the bootloader by installing one of those floating around and unplug the phone during the bootloader upgrade. That should do it.
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Yeah, that would do it probably.
But once again that can be fixed by competent tech. So yeah, you have nothing to worry about bringing it into a store. They wont know what to do.
i know verizon and alltel both use Asurion as their insurance company for phones... dont know if sprint does but since your still with in the 1 year warranty then sprint/htc will cover it unless it is physical/water damage. then it becomes Asurion relm of coverage. good luck though... if you take it in enough they might just say screw it and give u a new one... but if ur new one has the same issues they will tell you to go and...ya u get the point
I recently bricked my phone beyond my capabilities of fixing it and have talked to verizon about sending it in for replacement (I'm under 1 year warrantee). I just told them the phone wont boot past the android skateboad splash screen. The problem is, the flashboot logo is in the top left. What happens when they get my phone back and try to boot up and see that?
Any advise?
In theory, they could charge you for the full retail price of the replacement. I'm not saying they would, just that they could. I just recently got a replacement, but mine had a bad trackball...almost couldn't flash it back to stock! But I also had insurance on the phone, so if I couldn't flash it back, it would have fallen off a boat while I was fishing!
It's an Eris...I'm not sure that they would care anymore.
I've heard mixed results on this. At this point I doubt they would care all that much but you never know.
Best of luck to you.
The Eris is dead to them. I doubt they even attempt to boot it.
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next time don't use clockwork on an Eris
I am on the forth eris. all messed up with CM on it. Never had an issue. they dont care. the phone goes to a refurb company who makes it right and then send back to verizon.
I figured this would be the relevant thread for this question.
I'm getting the trackball issue, I got this phone earlier this year just before they retired it, but opted out of the extended warranty. Will they replace the phone or am I screwed? Should I take it into the Verizon corporate store, call, or do nothing and just deal with the issue?
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I figured this would be the relevant thread for this question.
I'm getting the trackball issue, I got this phone earlier this year just before they retired it, but opted out of the extended warranty. Will they replace the phone or am I screwed? Should I take it into the Verizon corporate store, call, or do nothing and just deal with the issue?
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It should still have a one year warranty so SOMEONE should have to replace it.
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I figured this would be the relevant thread for this question.
I'm getting the trackball issue, I got this phone earlier this year just before they retired it, but opted out of the extended warranty. Will they replace the phone or am I screwed? Should I take it into the Verizon corporate store, call, or do nothing and just deal with the issue?
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Call verizon at 611 and act irritated, tell them you know the trackball is a common issue and don't want another since you know it will break when out of warentee. DO be very polite to the service rep. With luck they will offer you an early upgrade to an Incredible... which costs 250-100 rebate - 132 trade in value for eris (a separate thing) = nearly free incredible. Worked for me.
I don't have the money for the upgrade off hand, maybe I can talk them into just doing it for free to keep me from going to ATT. I doubt it, I probably get a refurb Eris.
If anyone out there in XDA-land has actually warrantied an unlocked or re-locked phone (in store and/or via the 1-800 number), could you please chime in and post your experience (whether you did store or 800 and what happened).
I realize that it may still be too early to ask this question, because the true kicker is whether someone down the supply chain (in store, then in Verizon, then in HTC) noticed and charged back to your account; as there may not have been enough time for bills to generate after such a chain, but I would love to hear of actual experiences.
If possible, there is no need to report back on Amazon or Best Buy or Guy-On-The-Corner They have different policies. This is a Verizon Corporate inquiry. If anyone sent it back to Verizon, did Verizon ultimately charge you for a new Rezound. Thanks
(I realize there is another thread debating whether or not HTC shares with Verizon, and whether Verizon employees are trained to check. This is not that hypothetical inquiry; I am hoping that only people who ACTUALLY did the swap report in).
Thanks!
This is interesting to me. I'm stuck wanting the "normal", for lack of better words, root and s-off method from the community. I knew that the employees don't care about root as long as they can set it back to stock. That's what I heard from my friend that worked there. I don't know about the HTC unlock though.
I did it with my first rezound. (i baught them at bestbuy for their replacement plan) no questions asked. GIVE ME NEW PHONE, they gave, I was happy.
not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
I had the 'can't charge dead batteries issue' the other night. Went to store and replaced with new battery. No problems.
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not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
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Well - You did come closest to answering out of all the other responses PLEASE let us know if you ever get billed for it (which can take months).
When I turned my Charge in to Best Buy for the upgrade plan, the dude actually SHOWED OFF to the other folks how modded that thing was, he was in awe. As much flashing I did on that thing, it should have melted. They don't care, or are not paid enough TO care. Never had a problem at the VZW store either, but those guys are usually idiots anyways.
Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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While Best Buy is not relevant (they probably have their own policies), that is kind of disturbing. It means they are looking.
Anyone actually do this with *VERIZON*, would love to hear if they ultimately charge you.
I know this is not exactly the same, but I exchanged my old Samsung Fascinate for a Droid Charge under warranty through Verizon. I restored the Fascinate but forgot to restore the kernel. It showed some hacked version under the system settings and was really obvious.
I sent it back and never heard anything about it...
i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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so basically i could end up paying $850, $650 for the replacement plus the $200* i spent on the one that broke and be stuck under a two year contract?
oi vei
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YES! That is why I was hoping to hear of people's actual responses with Verizon. Not having much luck with the "actual" or "verizon" part of the inquiry, but it is probably still too early to really know. The phone hasn't been unlocked long enough for people to unlock, decide they need to warranty replace, exchange it with VERIZON, and then get another bill cycle or 2 or 3 to see if they were charged.
... but I keep hoping to hear from anyone who actually warrantied an unlocked phone back to a Verizon corporate store or Verizon 800. As time goes by, maybe we will learn
doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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treadwayj said:
doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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Please do. I suspect it will take months (has to get from Verizon store to headquarters as part of however often they ship, then Verizon has to batch all their warranty replacements back to HTC {if that's how they do it} however often they ship, then HTC has to notice {if they ever do} and push back {if they ever do}, and the Verizon has take the pushback and bill). I suspect that this can take months, at which point the question will be moot (because it will be as it will be), but it was a pipe dream of mine to see what actually happens, given the amount of guessing going on.
Good luck!
I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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I don't know how to feel about that either. When an employee of a cellphone provider looks at the available water marks and SAYS your phone is fine and has not received water damage and they are going to replace it for you...anything found afterwords is Verizon's own fault and they will have to deal with. I actually had apple try and pull that once. Had am iPhone where the wifi card was bad, tech at apple looked at their two water markers and said it was fine, that there was a definite issue and shed replace it. Got a call from apple saying the water marker was tripped and I'd have to pay for the replacement. I told them exactly what happened and they left me alone real quick.
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... and there you go. That is the heart of my inquiry.
The initial person (counter at the store) will be irrelevant, and if people turn in Re-Locked phones, will they ultimately get charged by Verizon EXACTLY the way Apple proceeded with you.
Hi, all.
I'm a recent Galaxy Note convert. Migrated from years of glitchy and crap service from Sprint, and also a defective HTC EVO 3D. I absolutely LOVE my Note in ceramic white. However, I have had a couple of initial teething issues that I don't know are actual "problems," or just what to expect with a new Android device.
My Note is pretty much flawless most of the time, but there are instances where I've had random reboots, prolonged freezing up of the device (like when selecting certain live wallpapers and customizing their effects), and other times when transitioning from one program to the homescreen, and my phone will lag up and the icons will disappear off the screen and slowly reload a few icons at a time until everything is there, again. Also, I just realized that sometimes when I have alarms set to go off, they won't wakeup my screen. The alarm will go off but the screen will remain off. Other times the alarm will wakeup my device and turn the screen on.
So, my question is... should I be concerned and demand a new phone from Best Buy Mobile, or are these normal issues and nothing to really worry about? When I went to Best Buy, yesterday, to try and get a new phone, they were really apprehensive about it. They told me that AT&T would not allow them to replace the phone if the issues couldn't be replicated in the store (of course!). The rep did say some valid things to me about what could be causing the issues, but the whole random rebooting thing is what really has me concerned. He told me the phone was so new and that software updates have really came out yet to address any type of initial issues. Do you all agree or should I really try to get a new device??
Thanks in advance for any help.
I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
No random reboots or freezing on mine.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am running stock ROM. So now it seems like I'm having two problems... the first being that literally no store in my immediate area has anymore ceramic white Notes in-stock and the second being the unwillingness of BB Mobile reps to replace the phone. Today ends my 14-day trial with AT& (even though I have 30-days to make a final decision) and I'm limited on how much I can do today due to an engagement I must attend, tonight. Does anyone have anymore suggestions on what I can or should do? Thanks for much for helping me sort through this. I knew that random reboots didn't sound right.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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When u overclock do you notice the phone grtig hotter than when you don't?
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I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Thanks. There's no more to the story. Haven't really played around with the phone much or modified anything. Anything modifications I've done have been 100% stock. I guess I'll have to try and get the black/blue Note and before my 30-days or up, hope to swap it out for another ceramic white. Considering this wasn't my fault and BB gave me the run-a-round.
Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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Thanks again for all of your help. I was actually thinking about calling AT&T and saying what you suggested. I think I'll give them a call when I'm done with my engagement. Again, I appreciate all of your help and suggestions.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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A little off topic, but what did you undervolt to? I am running at 1.83ghz right now, and am curious what you undervolted to. Anything to save a little heat from forming and battery life for this thing
*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
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Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Hiya! Thanks for remembering moi lol. AT&T wasn't at all flattered that BB tried to throw them under the bus. I was fully expecting AT&T to confirm what BB had told me, but to my surprise, they said I was entitled to a new phone and should have been given one. I ended up going to a Best Buy Mobile outlet and an actual Best Buy Store. They all claimed they were fresh out of any Notes. One of them told me they had one in-stock, but when I got there, I was immediately told that was incorrect and they had no more. Called another BB in my area, they were supposedly fresh out, too. If there's any good news from all of this, it's that the Note must apparently be extremely popular! Either that or Samsung shipped very limited quantities. At any rate, I can't wait til BB customer service center opens, so I can cancel my insurance with them. I'm also taking back my Galaxy Tab to BB. I've barely used it since getting the Note. If I do decide I need a tablet, I'll see what the Galaxy Note 10.1 is all about.
awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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I hope you get this sorted out. Discounts are a huge thing. I don't even know if I qualify for any discounts. With Sprint, they made it sort of obvious to find out what discounts I was eligible for. Doesn't appear to be the same with AT&T. I guess I'd have to do my own homework.
I got my Galaxy S4 about 10 days ago and now as the outlook on unlocking the ME7 firmware is looking bleak, I'm inclined to see if I can get a return to Verizon on my 30 day warranty to hope I get a device with the original firmware. I had upgraded to the ME7 OTA shortly after I got it... I didn't really think twice about it when I was doing it and ended up regretting it that very night when I checked XDA for the first time about my new phone.
So I'm posting to ask for some opinions and ideas about this process... I assume I'm going to have to have some good excuse for the exchange and I'm sure I'm going to have to incur at least the $35.00 restocking fee. So, does anyone with experience with Verizon know the process well? What kind of fees am I looking at? It is worth it to attempt this? Does anyone have any ideas for reasons to tell them for the exchange? I want to just tell them that I updated system software and I'm unsatisfied with the responsiveness of the device after I did this and I'd like to exchange it, but I'm not sure if that'd be good enough for them. What do you all think?
Thanks.
EDIT: By the way, I didn't buy any insurance, if that matters.
If you are under 14 days you can exchange for another phone for $35 or return completely. No excuse needed. You can be unsatisfied changed your mind whatever. Doesn't matter. So yes your reason of not being satisfied is good enough.
Just tell them im either returning it or you can swap it with a new phone. . Either way I'm not keeping this phone. . Nothing wrong with it I just want an older firmware. . Under 14 days your good.
I was in the exact same boat you were in about two weeks ago. I brought my phone in and claimed that I wanted to exchange it for a white version (I had the black one). The sales rep who was doing the exchange was the same guy who sold it to me, (whom I had told of my plans to root it and flash CM10 onto it), and asked if that was really the reason why I wanted to exchange it. I told him that the phone had downloaded ME7, and I was hoping to get a new phone with MDK on it. He brought out another black S4 to me, and charged me nothing. He put it in the system as a failed update. Good guy saved the day!
My take: Go in, tell them your phone updated itself without prompting you, and you'd like a new phone. Don't mention anything about rooting/bootloaders, and if they ask for a better reason, ask to switch to a different color. Chances are you'll end up footing the $35 restocking fee.
Thanks, guys.
I went into a Verizon store today to try to get the exchange and got hassled... the guy insisted that there must be something wrong with the phone in order to exchange the device for an identical model or they would have to charge me the full, unsubsidized price. Of course, if I wanted to get the same phone with the other color it would only cost a restocking fee... go figure. I went on a rant about how that made no sense and that I wouldn't sit there trying to make it crash in front of them because it could take hours. He told me it was impossible, but I could call the Verizon help line and if they think that's a sufficient reason maybe they'd do the exchange.
So I went home, called the help line, got a guy in a minute and five minutes after that they are shipping my replacement device at absolutely no cost. No restocking fee or anything as he said it was a swap-out and the restocking fee doesn't apply. Of course, my only worry is with what the guy at the store said where they might charge me the full price if they find nothing wrong with it. However, the guy on the phone didn't make any mention of that possibility and I told him no lies... I said I updated system software and the phone has been much less stable, it crashed a few times (which is true), and I got advice from others stating they had similar issues with the new system software and that they got a replacement from Verizon. All that considered, is there any chance they might charge my account?
Anyway, I'm hoping they won't and I'm happy for the moment because I'm one step closer to getting a custom rom on my new phone. Hopefully... I still wouldn't know what to do if they actually send me a new device with ME7 on it. Maybe I shouldn't count my chickens until it arrives. I guess I'll know by the weekend if I'm a happy camper or not.
Thanks again for the advice.
Theyre probably starting to catch on with all the returns theyve been having.
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