Hi, all.
I'm a recent Galaxy Note convert. Migrated from years of glitchy and crap service from Sprint, and also a defective HTC EVO 3D. I absolutely LOVE my Note in ceramic white. However, I have had a couple of initial teething issues that I don't know are actual "problems," or just what to expect with a new Android device.
My Note is pretty much flawless most of the time, but there are instances where I've had random reboots, prolonged freezing up of the device (like when selecting certain live wallpapers and customizing their effects), and other times when transitioning from one program to the homescreen, and my phone will lag up and the icons will disappear off the screen and slowly reload a few icons at a time until everything is there, again. Also, I just realized that sometimes when I have alarms set to go off, they won't wakeup my screen. The alarm will go off but the screen will remain off. Other times the alarm will wakeup my device and turn the screen on.
So, my question is... should I be concerned and demand a new phone from Best Buy Mobile, or are these normal issues and nothing to really worry about? When I went to Best Buy, yesterday, to try and get a new phone, they were really apprehensive about it. They told me that AT&T would not allow them to replace the phone if the issues couldn't be replicated in the store (of course!). The rep did say some valid things to me about what could be causing the issues, but the whole random rebooting thing is what really has me concerned. He told me the phone was so new and that software updates have really came out yet to address any type of initial issues. Do you all agree or should I really try to get a new device??
Thanks in advance for any help.
I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
No random reboots or freezing on mine.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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keilbaca said:
I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am running stock ROM. So now it seems like I'm having two problems... the first being that literally no store in my immediate area has anymore ceramic white Notes in-stock and the second being the unwillingness of BB Mobile reps to replace the phone. Today ends my 14-day trial with AT& (even though I have 30-days to make a final decision) and I'm limited on how much I can do today due to an engagement I must attend, tonight. Does anyone have anymore suggestions on what I can or should do? Thanks for much for helping me sort through this. I knew that random reboots didn't sound right.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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When u overclock do you notice the phone grtig hotter than when you don't?
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keilbaca said:
I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Thanks. There's no more to the story. Haven't really played around with the phone much or modified anything. Anything modifications I've done have been 100% stock. I guess I'll have to try and get the black/blue Note and before my 30-days or up, hope to swap it out for another ceramic white. Considering this wasn't my fault and BB gave me the run-a-round.
Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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Thanks again for all of your help. I was actually thinking about calling AT&T and saying what you suggested. I think I'll give them a call when I'm done with my engagement. Again, I appreciate all of your help and suggestions.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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A little off topic, but what did you undervolt to? I am running at 1.83ghz right now, and am curious what you undervolted to. Anything to save a little heat from forming and battery life for this thing
*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
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Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Hiya! Thanks for remembering moi lol. AT&T wasn't at all flattered that BB tried to throw them under the bus. I was fully expecting AT&T to confirm what BB had told me, but to my surprise, they said I was entitled to a new phone and should have been given one. I ended up going to a Best Buy Mobile outlet and an actual Best Buy Store. They all claimed they were fresh out of any Notes. One of them told me they had one in-stock, but when I got there, I was immediately told that was incorrect and they had no more. Called another BB in my area, they were supposedly fresh out, too. If there's any good news from all of this, it's that the Note must apparently be extremely popular! Either that or Samsung shipped very limited quantities. At any rate, I can't wait til BB customer service center opens, so I can cancel my insurance with them. I'm also taking back my Galaxy Tab to BB. I've barely used it since getting the Note. If I do decide I need a tablet, I'll see what the Galaxy Note 10.1 is all about.
awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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I hope you get this sorted out. Discounts are a huge thing. I don't even know if I qualify for any discounts. With Sprint, they made it sort of obvious to find out what discounts I was eligible for. Doesn't appear to be the same with AT&T. I guess I'd have to do my own homework.
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Hey guys, I ran into quite a predicament today. As I was walking to work, I fell something fall out and slide half way across the parking lot. I felt me phone case (the crappy one that came with the phone), looked down on the ground and noticed it was my AWESOME Sprint Touch Pro. With the site of my phone moving in a hockey-like manner, I finished cursing and decided that I don’t want to have such an amazing phone looking like a piece of crap.
So here is where I am at. I need to get this phone fixed. I think that I might have a few options, but I want to know what you guys think. Originally, I bought this phone from a guy of Craigslist; it was $240, if you can believe it. Now, the phone had never been activated, so it was as if I was the original owner. Additionally, I never got a phone from sprint, but I am under contract. That means, according to sprint, that I am eligible for a new to get a new phone at anytime. Thus, I reach my questions and request for opinions.
Option 1 (least likely): Since the phone was never activated, can I still claim the 30-day phone guarantee from sprint? Meaning, can I return the phone as if it was defective?
Option 2 (What I will probably have to do): Should I buy a phone, get the equipment protection plan, and then process my touch pro as a defective phone. This seems like a relatively good idea, because I can get a phone pretty cheap (like the rant) and sell it on Ebay. So in the end, I make money off of this idea. The only down side is that my contract restarts, but I have only been with sprint for about four months. Also, I was going to save my free phone upgrade for next year so I could get a brand spanking new phone.
Option 3 (Don’t want to do this): Suck it up, and get a silicon case that covers the scratches. The scratches are only around the shiny part on the perimeter of the screen, which, by the way, says a lot about the quality of the screen.
Option 4 (Too much trouble): Sell it on eBay for as much as I can, and since it’s probable less than $300, put the rest out of pocket and buy a brand new touch pro from sprint.
Option 5 (Does it exits?): look for replacement housing. Since the phone is new, I don’t know if it’s even out there yet.
Thanks for all your input guys. I really hope to hear from some Sprint Reps or something. Meanwhile, I am going to try to sucker Sprint into helping me out.
P.S Yes, I know what I am doing is unethical, and that the phone is not really defective, thus I should not be returning it as defective.
I think I am having trouble understanding what happened. You have scratched your touch pro that you bought from someone else, I got that.
You never activated the phone on sprint? You should go ahead and put the phone one your account and get insurance immediately!
If you have only been with Sprint for 4 months how are you eligible for an upgrade?
If it is only chrome scratched my TP came like that. Look at the chrome around the keyboard section. At all 3 corners, excluding the Stylus one check for a "Seam" in the chrome, if it has this you can take it in and exchange at a Sprint store.
A scratched phone on Ebay will go for MUCH less than a regular one.
I am not here to tell you whether you are ethical or not, but you should exhaust all options that seem less unethical first before trying to make someone else pay for your mistake. That being said, I think everyone in the world would try to get a new phone for free, so I wouldn't feel too bad.
The phone is activated on sprint, but the person that sold it to me never activated it. It has been only a few days since I activated, can I still add the TEP? And are they going to charger a deductible, cuz they'll charge me $55 to fix it.
I am eligible for an upgrade cuz I never got a phone from sprint.
So if it has some defects I could take it back, even though I have no TEP? Unfortunately, the phone is flawless other than my stupid scratches.
TBH, I don't fell doing this to sprint. They have screwed me over many times over. This would just even it out.
If it is activated just go ahead and get insurance. You can add it anytime. They will charge deductible normally, but instead of telling them its because of scratches tell them you are experiencing poor battery life and that you can't hear anything in the speaker because it sounds like a tin can.
Oh, you never purchased a phone when you switched. I was confused. Thanks for clarification.
Look for those seams, almost every TP has them and they will switch for free without TEP. They are hard to notice but mine has em and I am going to switch soon.
They have screwed me repeatedly and I would be doing the same thing. Haha, I wasn't trying to preach in my post before.
Is there a grace period to get it? I thought it was like 30 days. Yea, I can lie to them, no problem. Though my bat life is amazing. play with it all day and never has died on me.
Can you direct me to a link to where this seams thingy is being discussed, or where the sources where u got this is at. I want to read some on it. Or maybe some pics, I didn't really know where to look.
Yea, well, they decided to renew my contract, and it said they had returned my deposit...I'm definitely going to use that against them.
To be honest, they have messed up so many times, I have only paid my full bill about 2 times.
I Heard my Sprint Rep. say that the insurance can only be added within the first 30 days.
So here is the rub....How do they know when you purchased it? Unfortunately logic would say that the insurance only applies to devices purchased directly from the carrier, but I hope I am wrong.
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I Heard my Sprint Rep. say that the insurance can only be added within the first 30 days.
So here is the rub....How do they know when you purchased it? Unfortunately logic would say that the insurance only applies to devices purchased directly from the carrier, but I hope I am wrong.
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Unless they changed the policy, that's not true. I had a phone for 6 months before I added the insurance online through the My Account feature.
But it's possible that has been changed and no longer do able.
Guys Thanks for all your responses, they are very informative.
So Basically here, I am leaning towards trying to see if I can get insurance added. I don't know how hard of a task this will be, but I hope that they can be persuaded into helping me out.
If not, I will just get a cheap phone and sell it.
Again, I am aware of the ethical lines being crossed, but wit sprint, those lines seem almost unreal.
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So to my surprise srpint sent this in an email:
Regarding the call from the technical department, I have forwarded your
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The handset on the account is under 30 day return period. You can visit
the nearest Sprint store and replace the handset.
Thank you again for contacting Sprint. Have a great day!
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its 30 days from the day you activate the phone...so you can go to a sprint store or call customer service and add insurance
as a tech in a sprint affiliate store i WOULD NOT swap you out for free because of cosmetic damage. So you are looking at paying 50 through Asurion(the insurance company)
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update (Sorry about the double post):
So to my surprise srpint sent this in an email:
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they are full of crap lol
you cant return a phone you never purchased from a sprint store lol
Well, well see. I am going to request a return kit from them, as they said that they would do. If not, then what ever.
BTW, the phone doesn't look like its been dropped or has any cracks. The excuse, "Its been in my pocket with my keys," would fly without a hitch.
We shall see what happens.
Sorry man, haven't been around the Computer. I had insurance on my touch I bought off of ebay. I had ins on my phone before and when I activated the phone it just went ahead and switched it over to my touch. So you should be fine adding it.
You can probably send it to them, but what are they going to give you back? You paid them $0 for the phone, so be careful, that may be what they give you.
Here is the site you requested talking about the chrome seams.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44217&highlight=cracked+chrome
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Sorry man, haven't been around the Computer. I had insurance on my touch I bought off of ebay. I had ins on my phone before and when I activated the phone it just went ahead and switched it over to my touch. So you should be fine adding it.
You can probably send it to them, but what are they going to give you back? You paid them $0 for the phone, so be careful, that may be what they give you.
Here is the site you requested talking about the chrome seams.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44217&highlight=cracked+chrome
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Yea, as I thought, I don't have that problem on my phone.
So if I understand your correctly, you bought a phone from Ebay, and added insurance to it?
Sorry about double post. I just added TEP, took it in. Told them about some errors, no lies. Just some stuff that happens with the phone. Of course I know its normal, but they didn't know that. They gave me a brand new TP, and let me keep the old battery.
I made a thread here a few days ago about how my 3vo keeps randomly rebooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176931
The phone likes to randomly reboot, freeze or suddenly goes into a phase where its unable to turn on at all unless I do a had reset by holding down volume down and the power button. I took it in to sprint and they saw how it wouldn't even turn on, and all these morons did was reset it again claiming to have fixed the problem. They refused to give me an exchange.
When it started rebooting again, I went back and they told me to go to the sprint repair center where I'd have to drop it off and leave it there for a few hours where it would be tested for the problem. I live really far from this repair center and to make it worse, the idiots at that store told me, if they could not replicate the problem, they would not honor any exchange policy. The problem with this is that the rebooting is really random, sometimes the phone can go a full 2 days without any issue and then without warning all hell will break loose. The person who had reset my phone before even went as far as to say that there is nothing wrong with my phone and that its well within normal operation.
wtf is this? This is the biggest joke of a customer service I have ever seen. I'm really starting to miss T-mobiles service now. I've called multiple sales reps and stores and all they do is try to redirect me to someone else over and over again.
Any advice? I really like the evo 3d, all I ask is for a damn phone that isn't defective.
Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
I had the same issue,went thru two phone already so this problem do exist..
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Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
Yea not normal. Had mine since launch. Not one reboot.
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I replaced my phone 3 times (seems like the batch was bad) and i bought it at Target..all I did was tell the guy about the problem and I got it replaced every time..he didn't even check..he gave me a phone this last time.from a new shipment and the phone is.flawless..Happy I.got a.good.one because I love the phone..don't know why you are having issues because they can replace it no problem if they want.
Sprint customer service is by far the worst.
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Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
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Just to give the other side of this (ie the store)
It does suck that you have a bad device and resetting it is the protocol first. But there are a lot of people who will buy android phones, take them and load every app they can fit on, then come back for exchanges. "My phone doesn't work etc etc."
They will keep doing this endlessly simply because they don't know how to use the phone properly. Doing a reset on these phones fixes the problem 90% of the time, so the stores do this first to cut down on wasted devices, time and money.
I understand that you probably don't fall into that category, but, as with everything else in the world, the bad apples spoil the pie. Hope thy get that straightened out for you soon
What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182917
Im going thru the same issue. My third EVO is being sent to me on Monday.
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Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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I came from tmobile and everything about sprint is better! Better phones, faster web and by far the best customer service I've ever had from any carrier! Go ahead and go back to tmobile! Les people to hog this network!
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I am sorry that you have to go through this crap, as people said i would call cs. I had to exchange my device twice at the sprint store, the first time was mainly because of network speed and battery life, after i waited 2 hours for the techs they couldn't find anything wrong except when i did a speed test my phone got way slower dl speed then another phone at the same sprint store. so the rep exchanged the product, the second time my phone was acting u, kind of like your, freezing, screen shutting off, and other things. after a few factory resets my phone would still not act right. so the next time it froze i just brought it in, frozen and explain that i already tried the factory reboot a few times - they had no problems exchanging my phone. I recommend that next time your phone freezes you just bring it in, this way they are able to see the problem themselves.
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What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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^^^ This.
Stores suck for customer service, but if you call CS they are monitored for their CS and usually will do whatever it takes to make you happy, within reason of course. I would make the call and they should take care of you.
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I came from T-Mobile also and aside from the faster 3g Speeds, I could not be happier with sprint, the service is awesome and I have always gotten credit/discounts/ free airwaves/exchanges and whatever else from the rententions team, They do there very best to help out, If you get a rep that you can barely understand .. ask to be transfer to account services and you will get all the help you need... I couldnt never get that service with T-Mobile even after 7 years of being a great customer ... Yes CDMA/WIMAX is far from perfect but I would not want to be anywhere else...
What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
I had the same problem with random reboots, about 5 times the first week. I took it back and they replaced it right then. You have to find the one intelligent person that works there and only deal with them. (I choose to believe there is at least one at each store) I have been blatantly lied to, downright scammed, and treated like **** by so many dumb-ass incompetent in-store reps that I wouldnt believe anything they say. Just keep trying different reps/stores til they exchange it.
Aside from the in-store reps I am a happy sprint customer.
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What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
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CAn't say I agree with this. If you are within your 30 days still, then I would recommend doing what the other guy did above and get the invoice printed off and going to a corporate and not a repair store to get it exchanged. Its really a toss up in which results you may get, but more corporate stores are made to listen to what CS has to say and the results they can pull up.
Maybe its just me, but my sprint customer service experiencE has been great. They always fix my problems without any fuss.
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About the whole TMO vs sprint thing. I'm not bashing sprint as a whole. Obviously they have attractive pricing, the best data plans (actually unlimited), solid coverage, etc. I'm just saying my T mobile customer service experience was far superior to what I have seen so far. In the past sprint was known to have the worst CS for sure. I've heard they have improved a great deal recently, of course I have yet to see it.
Tomorrow I will contact sprint CS directly and not the store and see what they can do. If CS can't just get me a replacement, then I may have no other option then to go to a repair center, which is frankly absurd considering this is a brand new phone and the sales reps themselves have seen my phone malfunction right before their eyes even after the factory reset.
I guess one way or another I will get a new Evo 3d and I hope the new one will just work right so I can get back to enjoying the phone. I've had over 7 reboots in the last 3 hours with this phone, its unbearable at this point.
If anyone out there in XDA-land has actually warrantied an unlocked or re-locked phone (in store and/or via the 1-800 number), could you please chime in and post your experience (whether you did store or 800 and what happened).
I realize that it may still be too early to ask this question, because the true kicker is whether someone down the supply chain (in store, then in Verizon, then in HTC) noticed and charged back to your account; as there may not have been enough time for bills to generate after such a chain, but I would love to hear of actual experiences.
If possible, there is no need to report back on Amazon or Best Buy or Guy-On-The-Corner They have different policies. This is a Verizon Corporate inquiry. If anyone sent it back to Verizon, did Verizon ultimately charge you for a new Rezound. Thanks
(I realize there is another thread debating whether or not HTC shares with Verizon, and whether Verizon employees are trained to check. This is not that hypothetical inquiry; I am hoping that only people who ACTUALLY did the swap report in).
Thanks!
This is interesting to me. I'm stuck wanting the "normal", for lack of better words, root and s-off method from the community. I knew that the employees don't care about root as long as they can set it back to stock. That's what I heard from my friend that worked there. I don't know about the HTC unlock though.
I did it with my first rezound. (i baught them at bestbuy for their replacement plan) no questions asked. GIVE ME NEW PHONE, they gave, I was happy.
not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
I had the 'can't charge dead batteries issue' the other night. Went to store and replaced with new battery. No problems.
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not that this helps right now, but i should be able to give you an idea in a few days. bought my rezound on the 9th and unlocked and flashed that night, data started not connecting at all on the 13th. called vzw tech support on the 17th telling them what was going on, no mention of whether it was unlocked from either side, got my warranty replacement today. gonna send back the old phone tomorrow.
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Well - You did come closest to answering out of all the other responses PLEASE let us know if you ever get billed for it (which can take months).
When I turned my Charge in to Best Buy for the upgrade plan, the dude actually SHOWED OFF to the other folks how modded that thing was, he was in awe. As much flashing I did on that thing, it should have melted. They don't care, or are not paid enough TO care. Never had a problem at the VZW store either, but those guys are usually idiots anyways.
Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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Local best buy for me looked for a superuser app, didn't see it, then exchanged the phone. Had they looked at the bootloader they would have seen the relocked. Bunch of idiots...lol.
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While Best Buy is not relevant (they probably have their own policies), that is kind of disturbing. It means they are looking.
Anyone actually do this with *VERIZON*, would love to hear if they ultimately charge you.
I know this is not exactly the same, but I exchanged my old Samsung Fascinate for a Droid Charge under warranty through Verizon. I restored the Fascinate but forgot to restore the kernel. It showed some hacked version under the system settings and was really obvious.
I sent it back and never heard anything about it...
i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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i'm curious, if they do charge wouldn't that mean they should send me the phone that was broken back since in theory i would have purchased the second phone at full price?
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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No you're paying for the replacement. It sucks.
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so basically i could end up paying $850, $650 for the replacement plus the $200* i spent on the one that broke and be stuck under a two year contract?
oi vei
*with new two year contract
YES! That is why I was hoping to hear of people's actual responses with Verizon. Not having much luck with the "actual" or "verizon" part of the inquiry, but it is probably still too early to really know. The phone hasn't been unlocked long enough for people to unlock, decide they need to warranty replace, exchange it with VERIZON, and then get another bill cycle or 2 or 3 to see if they were charged.
... but I keep hoping to hear from anyone who actually warrantied an unlocked phone back to a Verizon corporate store or Verizon 800. As time goes by, maybe we will learn
doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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treadwayj said:
doh! not exactly what i wanted to hear to start my friday morning.
i will keep y'all updated if i do or do not get charged
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Please do. I suspect it will take months (has to get from Verizon store to headquarters as part of however often they ship, then Verizon has to batch all their warranty replacements back to HTC {if that's how they do it} however often they ship, then HTC has to notice {if they ever do} and push back {if they ever do}, and the Verizon has take the pushback and bill). I suspect that this can take months, at which point the question will be moot (because it will be as it will be), but it was a pipe dream of mine to see what actually happens, given the amount of guessing going on.
Good luck!
I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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nosympathy said:
I don't see from a legal standpoint how they can do anything...soon as the phone is in their possession they are taking responsibility for it no? Therefore if it is not covered by HTC for some reason, it would be there fault.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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There was a ridiculous number of acknowledgment clicks re voided warranty through the unlock process. I would consider this situation exactly like if you brought a phone to Verizon saying it won't work, and the somewhere down the line someone finds the water sensor tripped. The dude behind the counter at Verizon is not going to know at the time, but as the phone winds its way through the warranty replacement chain, someone will figure it out; and they probably will charge you for your replacement.
No one would be screaming 'illegal' in that case; and I believe the cases are identical.
Please note - I hope this is not the case; I have not unlocked my phone (despite desperately wanting to run Nils' ROM) because I dont have $650 to start again. BUT, I can easily see the parallel here.
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I don't know how to feel about that either. When an employee of a cellphone provider looks at the available water marks and SAYS your phone is fine and has not received water damage and they are going to replace it for you...anything found afterwords is Verizon's own fault and they will have to deal with. I actually had apple try and pull that once. Had am iPhone where the wifi card was bad, tech at apple looked at their two water markers and said it was fine, that there was a definite issue and shed replace it. Got a call from apple saying the water marker was tripped and I'd have to pay for the replacement. I told them exactly what happened and they left me alone real quick.
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... and there you go. That is the heart of my inquiry.
The initial person (counter at the store) will be irrelevant, and if people turn in Re-Locked phones, will they ultimately get charged by Verizon EXACTLY the way Apple proceeded with you.
When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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The moral of the story is, order directly from AT&T next time. Best Buy always jacks up the off-contract price. It has never been worth it to buy a mobile phone from them. They could give me a free case studded in diamonds and I still wouldn't buy the phone from them.
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Sorry to hear your issues in getting your GNote. I have bought at Best Buy and always had good service. Looks like Best Buy and ATT borked up the pre-ordering for this phone. I heard stories of people who had pre-ordered from both finally give it up and walk in on launch day and buy the phone.
I did not pre order, but I get mine on launch day. It seems like these phones are launching so quickly that all employees are not up to speed on all the phones, specs or even that they are launching that day. That is why once you get someone good, stick with them!
jthornton71707 said:
When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
Oh and enjoy your note!
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
Oh and enjoy your note!
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If it wasn't for the black tie protection program I wouldn't go back there period. I got my iPhone 4 4s and nexus S with the protection and have loved it. But this particular location has gone down hill.
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Dude that sucks.. I know alot of the bbuy employees in my local one by name and get alot better service there compared to at$t/tmobile stores. You should have asked for the store manager not the bbym one.. And known the name of the one that said he would give the case to you for free.
Btw you know there was a 3x rewards coupon active for release day, should have been in your email.. Would have been almost 45 back in reward points.
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This is why I opted to buy the phone through at&t. BB is not a good place to buy phones at a full price. Good for upgrading though, which is what I use them for.
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My friend bought a Droid DNA with a dead pixel in the screen. I told her that she should exchange it because that it is not normal. She went to the Verizon store and they said that it was not a big enough of a deal so they would not exchange it for the same phone but only exchange it for a different phone with a 35 dollar restocking fee. So she ended up getting a Samsung Note 2 which costs more, she does not really like, and has a yellow screen tint issue. Any suggestions?
Yeah, call Verizon and tell them how awful the experience was, and that you bought a cutting edge device that is not 100% functional. You aren't dissatisfied with the phone - you're dissatisfied with this model's bad screen.
They couldn't restock the one you have now anyway, because it's faulty.
Not to argue, but most companies have an "exceptable tolerance" for dead pixels on a screen, i.e. there has to x amount dead within a given space ( size of a dime for instance).
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Could you actually see one dead pixel on this screen? Not being sarcastic, just curious.
Best bet is to call customer service. Since she accepted the Note for a replacement it might be a little difficult to get a new DNA back. It could take talking with a supervisor because she is on her second phone but I think if she explains the situation they'll work with her. It just depends on who you get on the line.
Agreed. Call customer service and express how ANGRY and Disappointed she is that she didn't get a phone she REALLY wanted in perfect working order. And that she didn't really want the Note2 that was pushed on her by the (unscrupulous) salesperson. If the initial contact doesn't do what you want, escalate it to a supervisor. Can't hurt!
Do exactly what rfarrarh said. I have several VZW employees that are my friends (including my best friend and daughters god father) and they are floored at this experience of yours. Make sure to say that the salesman pushed her to the Note 2. And, as always, threaten to leave VZW for another carrier. One dead pixel is enough to return the phone as a faulty device covered by the warranty (not to be confused with the insurance). Just complaining about poor customer service as well should be enough to get this situation resolved.
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Verizon is one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. Keep calling CS until you get a rep that helps you. I have had to call in three or four times before getting someone to actually help me.
why all the verizon hate I work at verizon wireless and I did a exchange today for a customer with a dead pixel on the dna and I had to use a magnifying glass to really see it in the store. So much hatred towards verizon do people realize if you going in all pissed it doesn't help be nice and tell us the issue and most reps would be happy to help.
greekmanx said:
why all the verizon hate I work at verizon wireless and I did a exchange today for a customer with a dead pixel on the dna and I had to use a magnifying glass to really see it in the store. So much hatred towards verizon do people realize if you going in all pissed it doesn't help be nice and tell us the issue and most reps would be happy to help.
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Nothing from this story makes it sound like she did that - if she had to be convinced she should exchange it, I doubt she was both upset and outgoing enough to walk in being *****y toward them. Not that it isn't possible, I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
Don't you get 14 days to return and call off the upgrade? If so she should do that and get the dna at another verizon or a retailer.
flaring afro said:
Nothing from this story makes it sound like she did that - if she had to be convinced she should exchange it, I doubt she was both upset and outgoing enough to walk in being *****y toward them. Not that it isn't possible, I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
Don't you get 14 days to return and call off the upgrade? If so she should do that and get the dna at another verizon or a retailer.
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yes you get 14 day return policy with a 35 dollar restock fee and only 1 exchange is technically allowed. If I were her I would call CS *611 and talk to them at this point most stores cannot and will not help unless you go to a manager and get an exception and that depends on the manager. sucks people have bad experiences in stores I mean I am sure it happens just hate to hear people say verizon is the worst when I know that is not true. anyway that is my 2 cents.
Also I want my DNA but I have to wait so at least you guys could all get one and experience it I can only play with one in my store.
greekmanx said:
yes you get 14 day return policy with a 35 dollar restock fee and only 1 exchange is technically allowed. If I were her I would call CS *611 and talk to them at this point most stores cannot and will not help unless you go to a manager and get an exception and that depends on the manager. sucks people have bad experiences in stores I mean I am sure it happens just hate to hear people say verizon is the worst when I know that is not true. anyway that is my 2 cents.
Also I want my DNA but I have to wait so at least you guys could all get one and experience it I can only play with one in my store.
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This thread doesn't seem to have much Verizon hate in it in my opinion. I'm lucky to have a Verizon store where are all the employees are nice. And if I'm correct I believe that was AT&T who was just rated as having the worst customer service for phone carriers for the second year in a row.
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Try going into a sprint store and see how well that goes for you... You'll be running back to Verizon. Most of sprints in store employees are dumber then a bag of rocks and too arrogant to bother trying to understand an issue or actually help you. I would suggest going to another Verizon store or calling cs. My limited experience with Verizon has been nothing but positive thus far.
I believe the standard procedure at a Verizon store is to first try to talk you out of your request. In your example by claiming that a dead pixel is not a big deal. All you have to do is simply insist that for you it is a big deal and you want the phone exchanged. After that they say that although they still disagree about the dead pixel, they will exchange the phone anyway because of their satisfaction guaranteed type policy.
I went through this four times (yes, it was somewhat painful) last week. Basically went to one store to exchange my wife's phone, they did not have the DNA, went to the store where I bought it, they just ran out of DNA's, finally got it done at the third store. The next day I exchanged my own phone also at that same store (with the same clerk). So maybe it counts as three times.
My wife's phone made a popping sound with the back cover if you pressed it, that bothered me. Did not bother any of the Verizon reps, some even claimed they could not hear it. After some pondering, and my insistence that regardless of what they thought or heard, I was not happy with the phone, all agreed to exchange it (and in two cases sent me to the next store to get that new phone).
My phone had a *really* recessed power button. I almost had to use a finger nail to press it. My wife's, as a point of reference, was much better. Same story with the VZ rep. He thought the button was fine, but I told him that it definitely was not fine for me. Got it exchanged. He looked almost offended the entire time he was swapping the phones, the second time now, but got it done nevertheless. After I thanked him he even made the point that this was not a big deal, as long as it makes me, the customer, happy.
Given the number of tries here, a trend has clearly developed. Hope this helps people deal with the exchanges.
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isn't verizon policy that you can just take back the note 2? Tell them you are not happy and you are going to go back to your old device. Then call customer care and tell them that you are leaving as soon as your contract is up unless they get you the DNA.
I would not try at the store since they get commision for the device.
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isn't verizon policy that you can just take back the note 2? Tell them you are not happy and you are going to go back to your old device. Then call customer care and tell them that you are leaving as soon as your contract is up unless they get you the DNA.
I would not try at the store since they get commision for the device.
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You can only do that once. Technically, the DNA to Note was that one shot. That is how they look at it in the stores anyway.
If your friend was within the 14 day period, the employees at the store can't tell her ****. Your friend got screwed, and I would file a complaint right away!
I too found a dead pixel, but honestly its not that big of a deal, and nobody other than me would ever notice it and I only notice it when I look for it. Think about it, its literally 1 in 2,073,600 pixels, I think ill get over it.
adrynalyne said:
You can only do that once. Technically, the DNA to Note was that one shot. That is how they look at it in the stores anyway.
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That's why she has to say that she was pushed into the Note 2 by the sales Rep (which is what sounds like happened). The Note 2 is $100 more, which looks really bad on the reps part. My VZW friends tell me that if she talks to a supervisor it will be fixed. Especially if she files a complaint. I mean you buy this new product that's top of the line and you find a defect in it and they won't replace it. By pushing the higher price device taking advantage of a persons desperation.
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str8upx said:
Try going into a sprint store and see how well that goes for you... You'll be running back to Verizon. Most of sprints in store employees are dumber then a bag of rocks and too arrogant to bother trying to understand an issue or actually help you. I would suggest going to another Verizon store or calling cs. My limited experience with Verizon has been nothing but positive thus far.
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I think that might be more regional than anything else. Where I'm at, it's the complete opposite. It's the Verizon guys that give you attitude while the Sprint guys are polite and understanding.