My friend bought a Droid DNA with a dead pixel in the screen. I told her that she should exchange it because that it is not normal. She went to the Verizon store and they said that it was not a big enough of a deal so they would not exchange it for the same phone but only exchange it for a different phone with a 35 dollar restocking fee. So she ended up getting a Samsung Note 2 which costs more, she does not really like, and has a yellow screen tint issue. Any suggestions?
Yeah, call Verizon and tell them how awful the experience was, and that you bought a cutting edge device that is not 100% functional. You aren't dissatisfied with the phone - you're dissatisfied with this model's bad screen.
They couldn't restock the one you have now anyway, because it's faulty.
Not to argue, but most companies have an "exceptable tolerance" for dead pixels on a screen, i.e. there has to x amount dead within a given space ( size of a dime for instance).
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Could you actually see one dead pixel on this screen? Not being sarcastic, just curious.
Best bet is to call customer service. Since she accepted the Note for a replacement it might be a little difficult to get a new DNA back. It could take talking with a supervisor because she is on her second phone but I think if she explains the situation they'll work with her. It just depends on who you get on the line.
Agreed. Call customer service and express how ANGRY and Disappointed she is that she didn't get a phone she REALLY wanted in perfect working order. And that she didn't really want the Note2 that was pushed on her by the (unscrupulous) salesperson. If the initial contact doesn't do what you want, escalate it to a supervisor. Can't hurt!
Do exactly what rfarrarh said. I have several VZW employees that are my friends (including my best friend and daughters god father) and they are floored at this experience of yours. Make sure to say that the salesman pushed her to the Note 2. And, as always, threaten to leave VZW for another carrier. One dead pixel is enough to return the phone as a faulty device covered by the warranty (not to be confused with the insurance). Just complaining about poor customer service as well should be enough to get this situation resolved.
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Verizon is one of the worst companies I have ever dealt with. Keep calling CS until you get a rep that helps you. I have had to call in three or four times before getting someone to actually help me.
why all the verizon hate I work at verizon wireless and I did a exchange today for a customer with a dead pixel on the dna and I had to use a magnifying glass to really see it in the store. So much hatred towards verizon do people realize if you going in all pissed it doesn't help be nice and tell us the issue and most reps would be happy to help.
greekmanx said:
why all the verizon hate I work at verizon wireless and I did a exchange today for a customer with a dead pixel on the dna and I had to use a magnifying glass to really see it in the store. So much hatred towards verizon do people realize if you going in all pissed it doesn't help be nice and tell us the issue and most reps would be happy to help.
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Nothing from this story makes it sound like she did that - if she had to be convinced she should exchange it, I doubt she was both upset and outgoing enough to walk in being *****y toward them. Not that it isn't possible, I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
Don't you get 14 days to return and call off the upgrade? If so she should do that and get the dna at another verizon or a retailer.
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Nothing from this story makes it sound like she did that - if she had to be convinced she should exchange it, I doubt she was both upset and outgoing enough to walk in being *****y toward them. Not that it isn't possible, I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion.
Don't you get 14 days to return and call off the upgrade? If so she should do that and get the dna at another verizon or a retailer.
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yes you get 14 day return policy with a 35 dollar restock fee and only 1 exchange is technically allowed. If I were her I would call CS *611 and talk to them at this point most stores cannot and will not help unless you go to a manager and get an exception and that depends on the manager. sucks people have bad experiences in stores I mean I am sure it happens just hate to hear people say verizon is the worst when I know that is not true. anyway that is my 2 cents.
Also I want my DNA but I have to wait so at least you guys could all get one and experience it I can only play with one in my store.
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yes you get 14 day return policy with a 35 dollar restock fee and only 1 exchange is technically allowed. If I were her I would call CS *611 and talk to them at this point most stores cannot and will not help unless you go to a manager and get an exception and that depends on the manager. sucks people have bad experiences in stores I mean I am sure it happens just hate to hear people say verizon is the worst when I know that is not true. anyway that is my 2 cents.
Also I want my DNA but I have to wait so at least you guys could all get one and experience it I can only play with one in my store.
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This thread doesn't seem to have much Verizon hate in it in my opinion. I'm lucky to have a Verizon store where are all the employees are nice. And if I'm correct I believe that was AT&T who was just rated as having the worst customer service for phone carriers for the second year in a row.
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Try going into a sprint store and see how well that goes for you... You'll be running back to Verizon. Most of sprints in store employees are dumber then a bag of rocks and too arrogant to bother trying to understand an issue or actually help you. I would suggest going to another Verizon store or calling cs. My limited experience with Verizon has been nothing but positive thus far.
I believe the standard procedure at a Verizon store is to first try to talk you out of your request. In your example by claiming that a dead pixel is not a big deal. All you have to do is simply insist that for you it is a big deal and you want the phone exchanged. After that they say that although they still disagree about the dead pixel, they will exchange the phone anyway because of their satisfaction guaranteed type policy.
I went through this four times (yes, it was somewhat painful) last week. Basically went to one store to exchange my wife's phone, they did not have the DNA, went to the store where I bought it, they just ran out of DNA's, finally got it done at the third store. The next day I exchanged my own phone also at that same store (with the same clerk). So maybe it counts as three times.
My wife's phone made a popping sound with the back cover if you pressed it, that bothered me. Did not bother any of the Verizon reps, some even claimed they could not hear it. After some pondering, and my insistence that regardless of what they thought or heard, I was not happy with the phone, all agreed to exchange it (and in two cases sent me to the next store to get that new phone).
My phone had a *really* recessed power button. I almost had to use a finger nail to press it. My wife's, as a point of reference, was much better. Same story with the VZ rep. He thought the button was fine, but I told him that it definitely was not fine for me. Got it exchanged. He looked almost offended the entire time he was swapping the phones, the second time now, but got it done nevertheless. After I thanked him he even made the point that this was not a big deal, as long as it makes me, the customer, happy.
Given the number of tries here, a trend has clearly developed. Hope this helps people deal with the exchanges.
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isn't verizon policy that you can just take back the note 2? Tell them you are not happy and you are going to go back to your old device. Then call customer care and tell them that you are leaving as soon as your contract is up unless they get you the DNA.
I would not try at the store since they get commision for the device.
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isn't verizon policy that you can just take back the note 2? Tell them you are not happy and you are going to go back to your old device. Then call customer care and tell them that you are leaving as soon as your contract is up unless they get you the DNA.
I would not try at the store since they get commision for the device.
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You can only do that once. Technically, the DNA to Note was that one shot. That is how they look at it in the stores anyway.
If your friend was within the 14 day period, the employees at the store can't tell her ****. Your friend got screwed, and I would file a complaint right away!
I too found a dead pixel, but honestly its not that big of a deal, and nobody other than me would ever notice it and I only notice it when I look for it. Think about it, its literally 1 in 2,073,600 pixels, I think ill get over it.
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You can only do that once. Technically, the DNA to Note was that one shot. That is how they look at it in the stores anyway.
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That's why she has to say that she was pushed into the Note 2 by the sales Rep (which is what sounds like happened). The Note 2 is $100 more, which looks really bad on the reps part. My VZW friends tell me that if she talks to a supervisor it will be fixed. Especially if she files a complaint. I mean you buy this new product that's top of the line and you find a defect in it and they won't replace it. By pushing the higher price device taking advantage of a persons desperation.
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str8upx said:
Try going into a sprint store and see how well that goes for you... You'll be running back to Verizon. Most of sprints in store employees are dumber then a bag of rocks and too arrogant to bother trying to understand an issue or actually help you. I would suggest going to another Verizon store or calling cs. My limited experience with Verizon has been nothing but positive thus far.
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I think that might be more regional than anything else. Where I'm at, it's the complete opposite. It's the Verizon guys that give you attitude while the Sprint guys are polite and understanding.
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I made a thread here a few days ago about how my 3vo keeps randomly rebooting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176931
The phone likes to randomly reboot, freeze or suddenly goes into a phase where its unable to turn on at all unless I do a had reset by holding down volume down and the power button. I took it in to sprint and they saw how it wouldn't even turn on, and all these morons did was reset it again claiming to have fixed the problem. They refused to give me an exchange.
When it started rebooting again, I went back and they told me to go to the sprint repair center where I'd have to drop it off and leave it there for a few hours where it would be tested for the problem. I live really far from this repair center and to make it worse, the idiots at that store told me, if they could not replicate the problem, they would not honor any exchange policy. The problem with this is that the rebooting is really random, sometimes the phone can go a full 2 days without any issue and then without warning all hell will break loose. The person who had reset my phone before even went as far as to say that there is nothing wrong with my phone and that its well within normal operation.
wtf is this? This is the biggest joke of a customer service I have ever seen. I'm really starting to miss T-mobiles service now. I've called multiple sales reps and stores and all they do is try to redirect me to someone else over and over again.
Any advice? I really like the evo 3d, all I ask is for a damn phone that isn't defective.
Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
I had the same issue,went thru two phone already so this problem do exist..
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al3azim said:
Try to find another store or call and ask for a supervisor for customer care and have them note your account to replace your phone. You should definitely get it exchanged. This is not a common problem with the phone at all.
The other option is if you are still within your 30 days, go to the store and tell them you want to return it and then buy it again but this time get a newer device. You can do that within your 30 days of course unless you are waiting to try out the Moto Photon.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
Yea not normal. Had mine since launch. Not one reboot.
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I replaced my phone 3 times (seems like the batch was bad) and i bought it at Target..all I did was tell the guy about the problem and I got it replaced every time..he didn't even check..he gave me a phone this last time.from a new shipment and the phone is.flawless..Happy I.got a.good.one because I love the phone..don't know why you are having issues because they can replace it no problem if they want.
Sprint customer service is by far the worst.
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Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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Yeah, I'm within my 30 days.
I called another store and they said I'd be charged $35 if I wanted to exchange it without taking it to the repair center.
Guess I'll just have to go to the sprint repair center and wait around a few hours while hoping the phone crashes while its there.
I've never seen such a bull **** exchange policy. The rep who reset the phone when it wouldn't start told me to stop installing too many android apps and blamed me for the problem, of course I was running factory stock.
A few years ago I bought a defective phone from tmo, all I did was called and told them, and they had a new phone waiting for me at the store when I came in. Has anyone else had to deal with this ****ty sprint customer service or is it just me?
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Just to give the other side of this (ie the store)
It does suck that you have a bad device and resetting it is the protocol first. But there are a lot of people who will buy android phones, take them and load every app they can fit on, then come back for exchanges. "My phone doesn't work etc etc."
They will keep doing this endlessly simply because they don't know how to use the phone properly. Doing a reset on these phones fixes the problem 90% of the time, so the stores do this first to cut down on wasted devices, time and money.
I understand that you probably don't fall into that category, but, as with everything else in the world, the bad apples spoil the pie. Hope thy get that straightened out for you soon
What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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See my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182917
Im going thru the same issue. My third EVO is being sent to me on Monday.
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poweroutlet said:
Yeah, I'm not at all happy with coming to sprint from T mobile so far. Sprints 3g is also a joke compared to HSPA on T mobile. I'm willing to overlook all these things if they'd just give me a damn phone that isn't broken.
I'm surprised that everyone else around here is able to exchange the phone so easily but the guys I'm dealing with are making it a huge pain. Maybe I just got unlucky with the sprint store around here.
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I came from tmobile and everything about sprint is better! Better phones, faster web and by far the best customer service I've ever had from any carrier! Go ahead and go back to tmobile! Les people to hog this network!
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I am sorry that you have to go through this crap, as people said i would call cs. I had to exchange my device twice at the sprint store, the first time was mainly because of network speed and battery life, after i waited 2 hours for the techs they couldn't find anything wrong except when i did a speed test my phone got way slower dl speed then another phone at the same sprint store. so the rep exchanged the product, the second time my phone was acting u, kind of like your, freezing, screen shutting off, and other things. after a few factory resets my phone would still not act right. so the next time it froze i just brought it in, frozen and explain that i already tried the factory reboot a few times - they had no problems exchanging my phone. I recommend that next time your phone freezes you just bring it in, this way they are able to see the problem themselves.
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What I did was called customer service and told them about a problem I was having, although when I took my phone to the sprint store PRIOR to me calling CS, they said there was nothing they could do, or would do for that matter. So I called CS, and they emailed me a invoice, telling the sprint store what, and how to give me the excange. Then I went to the sprint store with the invoice in hand, and they HAD to give me my replacement Evo 3D. I was within my 30 days.
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^^^ This.
Stores suck for customer service, but if you call CS they are monitored for their CS and usually will do whatever it takes to make you happy, within reason of course. I would make the call and they should take care of you.
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I came from T-Mobile also and aside from the faster 3g Speeds, I could not be happier with sprint, the service is awesome and I have always gotten credit/discounts/ free airwaves/exchanges and whatever else from the rententions team, They do there very best to help out, If you get a rep that you can barely understand .. ask to be transfer to account services and you will get all the help you need... I couldnt never get that service with T-Mobile even after 7 years of being a great customer ... Yes CDMA/WIMAX is far from perfect but I would not want to be anywhere else...
What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
I had the same problem with random reboots, about 5 times the first week. I took it back and they replaced it right then. You have to find the one intelligent person that works there and only deal with them. (I choose to believe there is at least one at each store) I have been blatantly lied to, downright scammed, and treated like **** by so many dumb-ass incompetent in-store reps that I wouldnt believe anything they say. Just keep trying different reps/stores til they exchange it.
Aside from the in-store reps I am a happy sprint customer.
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What I would recommend is going to the sprint store, cancelling the upgrade and returning the phone, then go buy the phone at radioshack or bestbuy. i work for radioshack and if a customer had a real issue with the phone, our store would replace it until it worked properly.
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CAn't say I agree with this. If you are within your 30 days still, then I would recommend doing what the other guy did above and get the invoice printed off and going to a corporate and not a repair store to get it exchanged. Its really a toss up in which results you may get, but more corporate stores are made to listen to what CS has to say and the results they can pull up.
Maybe its just me, but my sprint customer service experiencE has been great. They always fix my problems without any fuss.
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About the whole TMO vs sprint thing. I'm not bashing sprint as a whole. Obviously they have attractive pricing, the best data plans (actually unlimited), solid coverage, etc. I'm just saying my T mobile customer service experience was far superior to what I have seen so far. In the past sprint was known to have the worst CS for sure. I've heard they have improved a great deal recently, of course I have yet to see it.
Tomorrow I will contact sprint CS directly and not the store and see what they can do. If CS can't just get me a replacement, then I may have no other option then to go to a repair center, which is frankly absurd considering this is a brand new phone and the sales reps themselves have seen my phone malfunction right before their eyes even after the factory reset.
I guess one way or another I will get a new Evo 3d and I hope the new one will just work right so I can get back to enjoying the phone. I've had over 7 reboots in the last 3 hours with this phone, its unbearable at this point.
When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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The moral of the story is, order directly from AT&T next time. Best Buy always jacks up the off-contract price. It has never been worth it to buy a mobile phone from them. They could give me a free case studded in diamonds and I still wouldn't buy the phone from them.
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Sorry to hear your issues in getting your GNote. I have bought at Best Buy and always had good service. Looks like Best Buy and ATT borked up the pre-ordering for this phone. I heard stories of people who had pre-ordered from both finally give it up and walk in on launch day and buy the phone.
I did not pre order, but I get mine on launch day. It seems like these phones are launching so quickly that all employees are not up to speed on all the phones, specs or even that they are launching that day. That is why once you get someone good, stick with them!
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When i found out Best buy was taking pre orders for the Note and offering a free case i went down and tried to pre order. I was buying the phone outright for retail as im not elgible to upgrade. When i got there i found the phone was selling for $749.99; $100.00 more than at&t, however ive had no problem with getting them to price match before hand. So i asked the employee if they would and he confirmed with the manager however he said i would not be able to pre order due to the price match descrepency and that i would have to come in on launch day to get one and i would still get the case just let the manager know the situation. So when Sunday came i was the second person there. First of all i had to wait about 30 minutes for 3 of Mobile Dept employees were tending to the only person before me, then when i asked the employee about the phone he didnt even know what it was!!! He went to the "manager" and the manager came out and showed me the phone and started telling me about it. This is where i started getting p!ssed off. He first tends to tell me they dont have the phone in blue... only black... :-].. HUH?? secondly he starts talking about how its "cool because it has a stylus like the nintendo DS"... I kinda told him it was an S-Pen and what it could do and he just looked at me and said "same thing" and walked away!!!. At this point i was annoyed after waiting and the employees lack of professionalism/knowledge so i wanted to get the phone and just leave. I told the other employee i would be buying without contract, about the price match policy and that i had still wanted the free case that i was promised. He called the manager back and the manager said the most they could do is give me the case for 50% off since i waited for so long!!! We argued back & forth as i felt i was lied to and jipped. I told him i was paying $700+ for a phone choosing to go thru them only for the black tie protection plan and it was crap that I was told otherwise about getting the free case. He kind of chuckled at me then told me "i was free to go elsewhere but thats what he could do"!!! Then when they finally opened my phone and activated it all 3 employees and the manager were looking at it and playing with it for a good minute or 2 before even giving it to me! It got to the point where the manager was like "ohh sorry but weve never seen one of these things powered on and we wanted to look at it"... This particular location used to be awsome. Im a Silver Rewards Zone member and i would know all the employees by name... i knew as soon as i walked into a dept i would be harassed by that dept rep if i needed help. They were knowledgable and friendly. Those days are sense gone and now they have a whole new slew of workers that dont know anything, and look annoyed to even do their job. Its impossible to get them to even help you out if you need it without having to chase one of them down. Did anyone else have any issues with Pre-ordering or price matching?
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
Oh and enjoy your note!
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Sorry those people sucked haha it does happen sometimes. I work for BBYM and I can tell you that some are not the most knowledgeable.. Hell my boss has absolutely no idea on different specs or upcoming phones. But he's not really supposed to. Do you know how many new phones come through every couple weeks? The ATT rep will hand him a spec sheet with highlights and thats it. He certainly wont do any outside research. Its the sales people that should be the ones trained on phones. So for their incompetence I apologize.
As for the other stuff, our pre-ordering system blows. Know that. But, it can also reap some pretty good benefits if you are a little patient with it. The price matching thing does work on pre-orders as I have done it for a couple customers with the galaxy nexus.
So knowing what you do now, would you still get your phone from best buy? Just curious. As one of the top 50 performing stores in the company this past quarter, I like to gauge outside response on peoples experience.
Oh and enjoy your note!
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If it wasn't for the black tie protection program I wouldn't go back there period. I got my iPhone 4 4s and nexus S with the protection and have loved it. But this particular location has gone down hill.
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Dude that sucks.. I know alot of the bbuy employees in my local one by name and get alot better service there compared to at$t/tmobile stores. You should have asked for the store manager not the bbym one.. And known the name of the one that said he would give the case to you for free.
Btw you know there was a 3x rewards coupon active for release day, should have been in your email.. Would have been almost 45 back in reward points.
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This is why I opted to buy the phone through at&t. BB is not a good place to buy phones at a full price. Good for upgrading though, which is what I use them for.
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Hi, all.
I'm a recent Galaxy Note convert. Migrated from years of glitchy and crap service from Sprint, and also a defective HTC EVO 3D. I absolutely LOVE my Note in ceramic white. However, I have had a couple of initial teething issues that I don't know are actual "problems," or just what to expect with a new Android device.
My Note is pretty much flawless most of the time, but there are instances where I've had random reboots, prolonged freezing up of the device (like when selecting certain live wallpapers and customizing their effects), and other times when transitioning from one program to the homescreen, and my phone will lag up and the icons will disappear off the screen and slowly reload a few icons at a time until everything is there, again. Also, I just realized that sometimes when I have alarms set to go off, they won't wakeup my screen. The alarm will go off but the screen will remain off. Other times the alarm will wakeup my device and turn the screen on.
So, my question is... should I be concerned and demand a new phone from Best Buy Mobile, or are these normal issues and nothing to really worry about? When I went to Best Buy, yesterday, to try and get a new phone, they were really apprehensive about it. They told me that AT&T would not allow them to replace the phone if the issues couldn't be replicated in the store (of course!). The rep did say some valid things to me about what could be causing the issues, but the whole random rebooting thing is what really has me concerned. He told me the phone was so new and that software updates have really came out yet to address any type of initial issues. Do you all agree or should I really try to get a new device??
Thanks in advance for any help.
I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
No random reboots or freezing on mine.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am running stock ROM. So now it seems like I'm having two problems... the first being that literally no store in my immediate area has anymore ceramic white Notes in-stock and the second being the unwillingness of BB Mobile reps to replace the phone. Today ends my 14-day trial with AT& (even though I have 30-days to make a final decision) and I'm limited on how much I can do today due to an engagement I must attend, tonight. Does anyone have anymore suggestions on what I can or should do? Thanks for much for helping me sort through this. I knew that random reboots didn't sound right.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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When u overclock do you notice the phone grtig hotter than when you don't?
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I would get it replaced. I have not had a random reboot in both the stock rom and the SauROM custom rom. I know many others here, do not have random reboots. Something is definitely wrong hardware wise.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Agree.
The other stuff you mention (laggy screen transitions and such) seems to be par for the course where just about any Samsung Galaxy phone is concerned, to differing degrees on different devices, but there's zero reason why a brand new device should be locking up and powering off on you, unless there's more to the story.
In either case, dump it and get a new one.
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Thanks. There's no more to the story. Haven't really played around with the phone much or modified anything. Anything modifications I've done have been 100% stock. I guess I'll have to try and get the black/blue Note and before my 30-days or up, hope to swap it out for another ceramic white. Considering this wasn't my fault and BB gave me the run-a-round.
Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Do what you have to do, but get that sucker replaced. If you have to raise your voice with them and tell them they sold you faulty hardware and you want a replacement or a full refund. If they say no, tell them to get their boss, if that person says no, tell them to get their boss. Eventually they will say their boss is not there, at that point tell them to get the DM (district manager) on the phone. Someone will bend and give you want you deserve, that's the whole point of a return policy. Honestly if they did absolutely ANYTHING but give me what I wanted with a smile on their face, I would demand a refund as they have not erned my money. Take that refund and go to an ATT store or go online and buy that phone. I have had to take the "get your boss" route several times when they tried to give me the run around and I know I'm right. Once someone tried to tell me that they wern't aloud to call/contact their DM (this was a radio shack), so i found called another radio shack and just asked "whos your DM...ok and I need to contact him, can I have a number" and about 5 minutes of hold I had their number and called him directly to tell him the BS I was dealing with. At some point you will get the guy who isnt taking the return personally and knows his job is to smooth this crap out, simple as that.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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Thanks for the excellent response. I just returned from the BB Mobile store I purchased my Note from. Even though I was told BEFORE I came that they had ONE ceramic white Note left... when I got there, I was told not only did they not have anymore white Notes (and haven't had any for a few days) but they were completely sold out of black Notes. I was then told to "factory reset" my phone, as a "be all to end all" solution. I feel so exhausted. I'm scared to ask for a refund and then go to an AT&T store and AT&T tells me they won't approve me for a line of service. I know it's most likely improbable that will happen, but you never know. I just don't want to be locked into a contract and then they have the ultimate freedom to not work with me. But what you said makes a lot of sense. I wish you had posted your response before I went to the BB Mobile store. I really don't want to take a second trip there, tonight.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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I understand man, its a chore to deal wit hthis crap. I do not know how the deal between ATT and BB works, but if you have a ATT store around maybe give them a call and tell them about what your dealing with, or hell call ATT customer service and tell them that they sold you a defective phone and you're just trying to get a new one. Wiping may actually help, but who knows. Your on a time crunch, I'd be more aggressive with every passing day. Maybe someone here can shed some light on the relationship between the two entities and if there is anything ATT can do.
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Thanks again for all of your help. I was actually thinking about calling AT&T and saying what you suggested. I think I'll give them a call when I'm done with my engagement. Again, I appreciate all of your help and suggestions.
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If you're getting random reboots on stock rom with no OC, then definitely go and demand a new phone. This sounds like faulty hardware. I've never had a random reboot, even though I am undervolting and OC'd to 1.83Ghz.
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A little off topic, but what did you undervolt to? I am running at 1.83ghz right now, and am curious what you undervolted to. Anything to save a little heat from forming and battery life for this thing
*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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*UPDATE* So I just got off the phone with AT&T customer service. Now, grant it, this is only my second experience dealing with AT&T customer service and they were probably bending over backwards for me because I am not a customer locked to contract... but I have a very pleasant and satisfying experience with AT&T. Not the horror stories I've heard online. I talked to two different reps, one regular rep and another in the warranty dept, and both were helpful, knowledgeable, and shutdown all of the lies Best Buy had told me.
Both reps said they had no idea why BB was being asses about giving me a new phone. The rep in the warranty dept went much further, and apologized to me for all of the troubles they put me through ... and specifically stated that she had no idea why BB didn't simply give me a brand new phone, as that's the whole reason AT&T has the 30-day buyers remorse policy. She said it didn't matter what the reason was for my wanting a new phone, I am still covered under the 30-day policy, and BB should have simply given me a brand new replacement phone.
The final recommendation was since I technically bought my phone from BB, normally the policy would be I would have to get BB to honor AT&Ts policy and give me a new phone. But, because of all of the lies and run-a-round, AT&T recommended I go to an actual AT&T Store and they should pretty much be able to give me a new Note. AT&T setup a time to call me on Monday, to find out if I was able to get a replacement phone. They notated my account, and they said that if for some reason I wasn't able to get a new phone at the AT&T Store, the warrant dept would send out a new phone to me. A bit of a hassel, but overall it seems like my issue will be resolved (I hope!).
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Good stuff. I really dislike Best Buy and everything that they do... this is just another knife in the chest for them.
I'm glad you got everything sorted out.
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Yes, I'm getting to that point, too. And it doesn't help they usually employ riff-raff trash around my area. I am calling BB during normal business hours to cancel my insurance with them. I've spent like $1,500 with them in the last year or so and another $350+ with getting the Note, and to be lied to over some B.S., just has me really soured. I would rather just have my insurance through AT&T.
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Hate to hear all that mess...best buy mobile is going further and further down hill. Att was right...best buy should have replaced the phone. If they had none they should have secured one by order or sent you to a store that had one. Even if you were out of the 30 days the insurance would have covered you.
On a positive note, glad to see ya! I remember seeing you around the evo threads back when I had one
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Hiya! Thanks for remembering moi lol. AT&T wasn't at all flattered that BB tried to throw them under the bus. I was fully expecting AT&T to confirm what BB had told me, but to my surprise, they said I was entitled to a new phone and should have been given one. I ended up going to a Best Buy Mobile outlet and an actual Best Buy Store. They all claimed they were fresh out of any Notes. One of them told me they had one in-stock, but when I got there, I was immediately told that was incorrect and they had no more. Called another BB in my area, they were supposedly fresh out, too. If there's any good news from all of this, it's that the Note must apparently be extremely popular! Either that or Samsung shipped very limited quantities. At any rate, I can't wait til BB customer service center opens, so I can cancel my insurance with them. I'm also taking back my Galaxy Tab to BB. I've barely used it since getting the Note. If I do decide I need a tablet, I'll see what the Galaxy Note 10.1 is all about.
awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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awesome news man! Glad we were able to get you straightened out. This right here is the whole reason behind XDA. People coming together to help each other out. I am doing battle with AT&T right now myself. My situation is with my discount. I qualify for a stack of different discounts (can only have one though) and Everytime they "fix" my account I end up gettings texts telling me to call this number and verify my discount. When I call they tell me they need me to send them more paperwork. Im still in my 30day window, but barely, so I'm going down to the store tonight with box and receipts and telling them to have it fixed while standing there or refund me, no other options, no wait and see if this worked, no email BS. Either it works or it doesnt, simple as that. Im hoping I'll still be around this forum with my note and not another section of XDA with a new carrier.
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I hope you get this sorted out. Discounts are a huge thing. I don't even know if I qualify for any discounts. With Sprint, they made it sort of obvious to find out what discounts I was eligible for. Doesn't appear to be the same with AT&T. I guess I'd have to do my own homework.
Don't know if this is the correct forum or not, but I am certain I will be informed by somebody else should this be misplaced.
So.... I lost my phone last weekend and I subsequently filed a claim with Asurion, T-Mobile's insurance provider. However, I have a strange circumstance that did not require me to suspend my service. I was at the T-Mobile store getting a micro SIM card for use with another phone I was planning on flashing over to T-Mobile. Anyhow as it turns out, I could not get a micro SIM as it would render my service useless on my phone (unless of course I possessed a SIM card adapter, which I found existed after this incident). So the rep had to issue me a new SIM card.
After I all of that excitement I noticed I was running late picking-up my kids. So I rushed from the store, and I swear that I had all of my phones & SIM cards with me. However, upon returning home I could not locate my phone. I thought to myself that it must have fallen between the seats and that I would search for it after the kids leave. So I broke out the new SIM card and an old MyTouch 3G Slide to use during the interim. After the kids left I searched for my phone with no success. I even called the T-Mobile store and there too was informed they were not in possession of my Amaze.
I waited to file my claim anyways as I really believed my phone must be in my vehicle, especially as my truck is notorious for consuming cell phone, wallets, etc.! Sunday comes around and I still haven't found my Amaze. So I file a claim with Asurion, and I wait to hear back from them. Six hours later I get an e-mail response saying they have news about my claim. So I call the 866# and I am informed by a rep that my claim is denied because my line has been in use. I of course explain my story, and the rep claims to understand. They check with T-Mobile to see when the last use of my phone occurred and according to them it was the following day. This is odd, but my thought is that I had not used my phone the entire day prior to filing my claim thus the report of the last use of my phone.
After all is said and done, the rep at Asurion files another claim assuring me that this claim would not be rejected & that she would call me within 24 hours. I never heard from the rep so I called again only to be informed that my claim again is denied with no reason given. So again I tell the rep what happened, and again the rep says the understand, calls T-Mobile, and files another claim with all the same promises as before. Next day I get the same e-mail as I received prior which by now indicates to me that my claim is denied. This time when I call I decided to escalate the situation. Well, this only further confused the rep I spoke with as they also refused to allow me to speak to a supervisor while claiming they could solve the issue. I get placed on hold by this rep with the excuse that HE needed to contact T-Mobile. He comes back on the line, and right away starts to tell me that my line is insured not my phone! I of course already have the literature from Asurion pulled up. I very firmly explain to him that every single reason he has given me for not honoring my claim is complete BS.
This representative continued to hold his ground that my phone line is insured, that if they cannot detect the phone on the network the claim is no good and some other idiotic excuse that I rebutted. By now he can tell that I am not very satisfied with their tactics, nor his level of service. So he again places me on hold telling me that HE will speak with T-Mobile. Well... I got blind transferred to T-Mobile, and of course I am informed that they cannot process the insurance claim. I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor. So I get placed on hold, rep returns telling me that I need to wait and she asks me if she could place me on hold again, then she hangs-up on me. Great! An hour on the phone & I get nowhere.
So I decided to try the online support people. Which when I am chatting online sometimes with "customer support" I 100% feel that I am speaking with a chat-bot! This 'person' also tells me that they cannot do anything. However, he offers me phone upgrades on all 4 lines of service. So while I am waiting for this 'person' to type their next reply I began to search for an upgrade. Some upgrade it turns out to be as they are basically offering me to purchase phones at the full retail price. I let the rep know that this is such a bogus benefit and that I could purchase a phone at the full retail price anytime I wished. Enough of this; I'll just call T-Mobile one last time and inform them straight away that this is the last opportunity for them to get this right, and that after dealing with Asurion & their less than stellar service, I will not be calling them. This time I actually get a person that really understands the words coming from my mouth. He ends up filing the claim with Asurion for me, and after speaking to 10 people by now informs me that my claim will continue to be denied unless I suspend my service!
I had figured by now that no human is involved in the processing of claims. Looks like I am correct in my assessment. Sigh.... So again I get a notice this morning that my claim is ready and to call again, which is code for your claim is denied. Yup, my 5th claim is denied. So I am typing out this story of frustration while I await a reply to my 6th claim. A claim which I have finally adapted all of my responses for their automated system to understand.
I realize this is very long winded, but I appreciate your understanding of my frustration with what I now view as some sort of scheme. A scheme that is meant to bilk consumers out of their hard earned dollars, and never provide the service for which they have paid.
Am I the only person that has had this issue with Asurion/T-Mobile or any other carrier as it seams Asurion has the market cornered on providing Phone Replacement Insurance for every major carrier?!
Sadly Sent from my A500 while I feel lonely without my Amaze 4G
sorry to hear..
This is why Ive NEVER gotten insurance on ANY phone i've ever owned (be it on t-mobile, or verizon, or sprint). Because of the fact I know they all insure through asurion and I know for a fact Asurion sucks balls. Ive heard and read so many horror stories about asurion...not to mention the replacement phones they send out are usually garbage. theyre usually refurbished phones..and by refurbished phones they clean the screen, make sure it turns on, and then call it good. the same phone that went in for signal problems will 99% come out with signal problems. Eff asurion in the a, seriously. dont ever get asurion insurance again. if you ever do get insurance on the phone make sure its carrier insurance, not insurance via 3rd party (aka asurion)
i hope everything works out well for you.
Update:
Just as I planned I received an email finally approving my claim! This is what happens when an f-ing computer decides what to do. There quite literally has been no human involvement with my claim. Yet these ya'hoo's talk about fraud & all this other crap.
I got news for you idiots: when a system is finally figured out by people, then it is ripe for being manipulated.
I do agree very much with the post above me though. Stay away from the insurance for more reasons then the fact that you will be ripped off by this company. My opinion is that you save the $8/month you would pay towards the insurance & save it specifically for a fund for your phone.
Another note: I have been reading a whole lot of posts about stolen or lost devices. I highly suggest installing some program such as Lookout. I am still checking on my phone every day to see if it has been turned back on/found by somebody.
Other security ideas to consider: encrypting the data on your phone & SD card, locking the phone, password protecting the SIM card and with ICS entering owner info that is displayed on the lock screen (there are still some honest persons out there, they just don't always think to call the carrier to let them know they found a phone).
About the above security suggestions... I know that people complain about how unlocking the phone takes too much time. My sister is the biggest complainer I know. I did her a favor by installing Lookout on her brand new Amaze. Anyways, the 3 seconds it takes to unlock your phone can save you the headache later.
Just saying!
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I've been shelling out money to these folks for the past 3yrs now.
What I want to know is did you call and tell T-Mobile that you lost the phone? Because they should be able to IMEI block it. Then I would go as far as to get a police report and then send in the claim again. Once that they see your phone is IMEI blocked then it should qualify your claim. Don't quote me on this but its worth a shot.
Good Luck.
If they don't ever wanna cooperate, always file a complaint with the BBB. Works with me
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Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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if you know its a refurbished phone, then dont be mad at HTC =)
I say give the OneS a good try. You may find that the removeable battery isnt all its cracked out to be. yeah no sd slot is a bummer but seriously give it a shot. Personally I would have asked for another amaze. =)
I cancelled my insurance a few days ago because of this post! I'll never send another penny to Asurion.
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Blame people that scam for all of this non sense, by all means I don't fully agree with all of asurions practices but working for tmobile I get to see the side you guys dont. People call in for claims by using there friends phones to try and get better phones, people that "lost" it and we check there call history and someone they know is using it, etc..... its easy to be upset I would if I was in ops shoes but if you understand the system insurance is great to have, I always tell people if you lose your phone first things first file your claim get it started even if u don't complete it you can get the proper direction on what steps to do once its lost to get your service up and running till you get a new one.
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Aaueion has new. Nothing but great to me. They bent over backwards to take care of me. I went from a G2 to a one s.
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Cant really say I have any complains with Asurion other than the T Mobile store I went to was out of Amazes so I got stuck with a SGS2. Although technacly two SGS2s ebcause the first one had a problem where when making a call nothing would be heard, so luckilly I was in the parking lot still and went back in and got a replacement. I tried talking to the lady into letting me pay a difference for a OneS but she said not :/ I love HTCs so its kind of a bummer to have a Samsung but I cant complain too much either.
Also off topic: Glad to see the Amaze finally got CM9 working, well GSM atleast
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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ONE S is probably the best phone i've ever used from T-Mboile. (after flashing a new rom with the 3dots menu removed) nice battery life, thin, slick, fast, feels great in my hand, awesome bright screen that's just the right size for one hand use. I like it much better than my S3, except the no microSD card slot part. non removable battery doesnt really matter if you have have the 3.99 warranty replacement.
I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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They deductible is around 125-130$ also if you decide to go that route, PRAY or call a Tmo store ahead to see if they even have any Amaze's left. There were none at the store I filed my claim so I got stuck with a SGS2
Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I cracked my screen a few weeks ago. I also had the D3O case but it didn't help at all. the deductible was $130 and Asurion set my replacement right away (called about 23:00 Saturday night and had new phone Tuesday morning). the one they sent me was a brand new phone in a sealed unopened box, so now I have a spare battery, battery cover and SIM card.
That makes it sound much better. New phone and an extra battery will be sweet. I'll go for it. Thanks
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I would trade my Amaze for a One S in a heartbeat. Going to the S4 processor and be able to run Cyanogenmod. Heck, the One S has a much more stable CM10 than the Amaze does for CM9. I hate that I can't get a stable Cyanogenmod ROM on my phone.
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LOL wow guys really?
I've been royally screwed by AT&T so many times, them overcharging me, accidentally adding services and removing services to my account, charging me for a replacement sim when my calls would drop and would still charge me every single time to swap out a sim. When I had mobile insurance added to my account, I lost a phone, paid the deductible and they STILL would send my "reconditioned" phones that have flaws, scratches, issues. Took multiple devices before I got a half decent working one. Assurion is a POS company, honestly. Those who are PMSing over my post, seriously? You've never in your entire life lied, or done something for your personal gain? Against an organization or group that gains and benefits more from you? I really hope that all of you who're preaching ethics to me, really do live a righteous, sin-free life on a regular basis.
When I traded the S4 for the HTC One I did not know it had issues or broken. If I had a perfect working phone why would I want to go through this hassle?
Also...I pay for mobile insurance, if I wanted to take them on a ride and screw them over I could have claimed my device lost or broken and asked for a replace for the deductible of $199. MANY colleagues and people I know have done this. I didnt go that route.
1. In the past when I traded phones on craigslist, friends, family, etc. ATT would give me a tough time about it, Idk if this happened to anyone else or just my bad luck. They would ask me 100s of questions about what, why, how etc. I did not feel like dealing with that. I didnt like the S4 and hated touchwiz.
2. I didnt steal from them or not pay for anything. One of their reps told me to keep the other refurbished model as a spare, I didnt suggest it or as for it. They messed up, so I guess they felt like making up for it.
3. Yes HTC would take 14 days to send me back my device I send to them, all the while I would be phoneless. Dealing with AT&T was the best way to ensure I'd atleast be able to make and take calls in the mean time while this situation got worked out.
4. The original iPhone 5 I paid for I bought without an upgrade and paid full price of $500+, so I'm pretty sure they made so much money off me lol.
5. The new tax of 60 something cents to each customers phone bill will more than pay for a measly half broken HTC One
6. I've been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time
7. To the idiot that said mentality like this gets us into recession? Lol really? I pay for the service with money I work for and want a working device.
8. The reason I had to raise my voice and yell at the reps was because they refused to let me return the defective device and wanted me to just live with it or try a different phone instead. They refused to admit that AT&T and Assurion's quality control with their "refurbished"/"reconditioned"/"like new" devices have flaws and aren't tested out properly before shipping out to customers.
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So I originally had an iPhone 5 when I decided I wanted to try something new. I fell in love with the HTC One after reading about it and playing with the store model, so sold my 5 for $500 unlocked and went to AT&T store and used my mom's upgrade and got the 32 GB One. But for some reason that did not satisfy me initially then I returned it and went to the Galaxy S4 and decided I was gonna stick with it, till the same old TouchWiz ruined the experience for me over time. Decided I wanted to go back to the HTC One because I missed the front facing speakers and blinkfeed SO MUCH. Plus Sense 5 felt a lot smoother and quicker. I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something. So they said they would send me a replacement warranty exchange right away.
So here it goes...
Device 1 they sent me had scratches all over the unit, non centered camera lens in the back and the vibrate rattled. So I called complained and then they sent me another one.
Device 2 had 4 dead pixels and 2 HUGE gaps. Called and yelled at them again and they said they would send me another device.
Device 3 would not charge past 85% and hold it for more than an hour. Called them and yelled at them and demanded that they fix my issue and send me a brand new device. All the while the lady that I was talking to accidentally put a request for a warranty exchange to be shipped out and she got a manager override and shipped out a brand new device to me.
Device 4 (New) & Device 5: The new unit had no vibration AT ALL, tried everything and every setting NOTHING. Device 5 was the used refurbished and was actually closer to perfect than the New in Box and Sealed device they sent me. I called and made a big fuss about the new one yet again and they said nothing could be done and I had to return both the devices and we could go from there and another new device being sent to me is out of the question. I argued some more and yelled some more before they said send back Device 4 and the manager told me to keep the Device 5 refurbished unit for now.
Device 6: I had to wait a week till they received Device 4/"New" unit before I called them and spent an hour on the phone arguing with them. So turns out they sent me out another brand new device and they're letting me keep the Device 5 refurbished unit thats working well. I asked what to do with the extra phone and their manager said "use it as an extra MP3 Player or camera..."
LOL so I'm giving one of the phones to my dad and keeping the other. Took a month but I got the better end of the deal no?
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So I originally had an iPhone 5 when I decided I wanted to try something new. I fell in love with the HTC One after reading about it and playing with the store model, so sold my 5 for $500 unlocked and went to AT&T store and used my mom's upgrade and got the 32 GB One. But for some reason that did not satisfy me initially then I returned it and went to the Galaxy S4 and decided I was gonna stick with it, till the same old TouchWiz ruined the experience for me over time. Decided I wanted to go back to the HTC One because I missed the front facing speakers and blinkfeed SO MUCH. Plus Sense 5 felt a lot smoother and quicker. I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something. So they said they would send me a replacement warranty exchange right away.
So here it goes...
Device 1 they sent me had scratches all over the unit, non centered camera lens in the back and the vibrate rattled. So I called complained and then they sent me another one.
Device 2 had 4 dead pixels and 2 HUGE gaps. Called and yelled at them again and they said they would send me another device.
Device 3 would not charge past 85% and hold it for more than an hour. Called them and yelled at them and demanded that they fix my issue and send me a brand new device. All the while the lady that I was talking to accidentally put a request for a warranty exchange to be shipped out and she got a manager override and shipped out a brand new device to me.
Device 4 (New) & Device 5: The new unit had no vibration AT ALL, tried everything and every setting NOTHING. Device 5 was the used refurbished and was actually closer to perfect than the New in Box and Sealed device they sent me. I called and made a big fuss about the new one yet again and they said nothing could be done and I had to return both the devices and we could go from there and another new device being sent to me is out of the question. I argued some more and yelled some more before they said send back Device 4 and the manager told me to keep the Device 5 refurbished unit for now.
Device 6: I had to wait a week till they received Device 4/"New" unit before I called them and spent an hour on the phone arguing with them. So turns out they sent me out another brand new device and they're letting me keep the Device 5 refurbished unit thats working well. I asked what to do with the extra phone and their manager said "use it as an extra MP3 Player or camera..."
LOL so I'm giving one of the phones to my dad and keeping the other. Took a month but I got the better end of the deal no?
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Awesome man. Good to see someone screw AT&T instead of AT&T screwing the person!!
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I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something.
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Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.
True that...you made the trade for the scratched up One. How is that AT&T's fault? I find this whole thing to be pretty unethical.
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Getting the extra phone is great, but you should have called HTC. They'll repair any HTC device as long as it's still in the 1 years warranty period.
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Awesome man. Good to see someone screw AT&T instead of AT&T screwing the person!!
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haha for sure man ... in the end i almost gave up ...it was so draining
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Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.
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no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exxhange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time ... F**K ATT lol
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Getting the extra phone is great, but you should have called HTC. They'll repair any HTC device as long as it's still in the 1 years warranty period.
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I did call HTC, and they said it would take over 14 business days before I would see my phone again .. i didnt wanna wait that long
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no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exxhange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time ... F**K ATT lol
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That's fine and all, but still. What you did was basically unethical and in regards to what you did, you were no better than AT&T, despite their shortcomings.
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True that...you made the trade for the scratched up One. How is that AT&T's fault? I find this whole thing to be pretty unethical.
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no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exchange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time and sometimes i wouldnt even get HSPA+ speeds let alone LTE speeds ... F**K ATT lol... im one for morality and ethics, but not when ive gotten screwed over by someone or an organization ..
You seem not to understand that the Corporation NEVER, gets screwed. When AT&T does its audit at the end of the year they will just determine that they have to make people pay more.... Like by not honoring 18 month upgrade cycles any longer, next they will add another hundred bucks to premium devices on contract like Verizon. This stuff only screws us in the end.... You should have taken this up with HTC.
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Fight the power! Big companies need to bend over once in a while for their customers.
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Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.
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I agree with this. It's people with a mentally like the OP is what got us into the recession. Getting stuff and not being responsible for their decisions or actions and getting bailed out somehow.
I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?
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I did call HTC, and they said it would take over 14 business days before I would see my phone again .. i didnt wanna wait that long
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Yeah, that's a pretty accurate estimation. I'm on prepaid and I've never purchased a phone from the carrier, so I've never really been able to complain to them.
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I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?
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That's different. Warranty states it covers any phone you are using.
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Wow... Did you seriously just post a topic on how you cheated at&t to brag about it? I don't like at&t at all but to do this is just wrong. Not only is it unethical it's just plain stupid. Like someone mentioned you did not win in the end. AT&T will rape your ass for the next 2 years.
Personally why do we give a F about a billion dollar company like AT&T?
I personally screw them by getting the HTC One on a subside price and then porting out without getting ETF. Now that's a whole different story.
F them
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I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?
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I find this whole thing odd. I bought an HTC One locally, it was only 3 days out from the purchase date. The camera wouldn't focus at all. I took it to a retail store, they wanted a receipt from where it was purchased, no go. I went to the service center, they said they can exchange it when the 14 days are up. I called up 611, said I bought it locally from a 3rd party, and that the camera was broken. They checked the notes from the service center who verified the problem. They sent me out a new device, not a refurb, without any hassle, even gave me priority shipping for free.
AT&T is getting another $75 over the course of my 5 two year contracts with that new admin fee. They have also pushed upgrades from 18mo to 24mo in the last couple years, which means I pay way more than buying the phone outright. I have no problem with what the OP did, if you are getting fu**ed in the ass, at least fight it, don't sit there and take it and buy into the fear of more fees, they are coming regardless.
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Wow... Did you seriously just post a topic on how you cheated at&t to brag about it? I don't like at&t at all but to do this is just wrong. Not only is it unethical it's just plain stupid. Like someone mentioned you did not win in the end. AT&T will rape your ass for the next 2 years.
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He didn't cheat them. The phone has a warranty on it for the first year. Doesn't matter if you are the original purchaser or you bought it used. Lay off the op.