A Month Battle with AT&T and I WON!

A Month Battle with AT&T and I WON! - AT&T HTC One (M7)

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LOL wow guys really?
I've been royally screwed by AT&T so many times, them overcharging me, accidentally adding services and removing services to my account, charging me for a replacement sim when my calls would drop and would still charge me every single time to swap out a sim. When I had mobile insurance added to my account, I lost a phone, paid the deductible and they STILL would send my "reconditioned" phones that have flaws, scratches, issues. Took multiple devices before I got a half decent working one. Assurion is a POS company, honestly. Those who are PMSing over my post, seriously? You've never in your entire life lied, or done something for your personal gain? Against an organization or group that gains and benefits more from you? I really hope that all of you who're preaching ethics to me, really do live a righteous, sin-free life on a regular basis.
When I traded the S4 for the HTC One I did not know it had issues or broken. If I had a perfect working phone why would I want to go through this hassle?
Also...I pay for mobile insurance, if I wanted to take them on a ride and screw them over I could have claimed my device lost or broken and asked for a replace for the deductible of $199. MANY colleagues and people I know have done this. I didnt go that route.
1. In the past when I traded phones on craigslist, friends, family, etc. ATT would give me a tough time about it, Idk if this happened to anyone else or just my bad luck. They would ask me 100s of questions about what, why, how etc. I did not feel like dealing with that. I didnt like the S4 and hated touchwiz.
2. I didnt steal from them or not pay for anything. One of their reps told me to keep the other refurbished model as a spare, I didnt suggest it or as for it. They messed up, so I guess they felt like making up for it.
3. Yes HTC would take 14 days to send me back my device I send to them, all the while I would be phoneless. Dealing with AT&T was the best way to ensure I'd atleast be able to make and take calls in the mean time while this situation got worked out.
4. The original iPhone 5 I paid for I bought without an upgrade and paid full price of $500+, so I'm pretty sure they made so much money off me lol.
5. The new tax of 60 something cents to each customers phone bill will more than pay for a measly half broken HTC One
6. I've been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time
7. To the idiot that said mentality like this gets us into recession? Lol really? I pay for the service with money I work for and want a working device.
8. The reason I had to raise my voice and yell at the reps was because they refused to let me return the defective device and wanted me to just live with it or try a different phone instead. They refused to admit that AT&T and Assurion's quality control with their "refurbished"/"reconditioned"/"like new" devices have flaws and aren't tested out properly before shipping out to customers.
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So I originally had an iPhone 5 when I decided I wanted to try something new. I fell in love with the HTC One after reading about it and playing with the store model, so sold my 5 for $500 unlocked and went to AT&T store and used my mom's upgrade and got the 32 GB One. But for some reason that did not satisfy me initially then I returned it and went to the Galaxy S4 and decided I was gonna stick with it, till the same old TouchWiz ruined the experience for me over time. Decided I wanted to go back to the HTC One because I missed the front facing speakers and blinkfeed SO MUCH. Plus Sense 5 felt a lot smoother and quicker. I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something. So they said they would send me a replacement warranty exchange right away.
So here it goes...
Device 1 they sent me had scratches all over the unit, non centered camera lens in the back and the vibrate rattled. So I called complained and then they sent me another one.
Device 2 had 4 dead pixels and 2 HUGE gaps. Called and yelled at them again and they said they would send me another device.
Device 3 would not charge past 85% and hold it for more than an hour. Called them and yelled at them and demanded that they fix my issue and send me a brand new device. All the while the lady that I was talking to accidentally put a request for a warranty exchange to be shipped out and she got a manager override and shipped out a brand new device to me.
Device 4 (New) & Device 5: The new unit had no vibration AT ALL, tried everything and every setting NOTHING. Device 5 was the used refurbished and was actually closer to perfect than the New in Box and Sealed device they sent me. I called and made a big fuss about the new one yet again and they said nothing could be done and I had to return both the devices and we could go from there and another new device being sent to me is out of the question. I argued some more and yelled some more before they said send back Device 4 and the manager told me to keep the Device 5 refurbished unit for now.
Device 6: I had to wait a week till they received Device 4/"New" unit before I called them and spent an hour on the phone arguing with them. So turns out they sent me out another brand new device and they're letting me keep the Device 5 refurbished unit thats working well. I asked what to do with the extra phone and their manager said "use it as an extra MP3 Player or camera..."
LOL so I'm giving one of the phones to my dad and keeping the other. Took a month but I got the better end of the deal no?

Packer2058 said:
So I originally had an iPhone 5 when I decided I wanted to try something new. I fell in love with the HTC One after reading about it and playing with the store model, so sold my 5 for $500 unlocked and went to AT&T store and used my mom's upgrade and got the 32 GB One. But for some reason that did not satisfy me initially then I returned it and went to the Galaxy S4 and decided I was gonna stick with it, till the same old TouchWiz ruined the experience for me over time. Decided I wanted to go back to the HTC One because I missed the front facing speakers and blinkfeed SO MUCH. Plus Sense 5 felt a lot smoother and quicker. I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something. So they said they would send me a replacement warranty exchange right away.
So here it goes...
Device 1 they sent me had scratches all over the unit, non centered camera lens in the back and the vibrate rattled. So I called complained and then they sent me another one.
Device 2 had 4 dead pixels and 2 HUGE gaps. Called and yelled at them again and they said they would send me another device.
Device 3 would not charge past 85% and hold it for more than an hour. Called them and yelled at them and demanded that they fix my issue and send me a brand new device. All the while the lady that I was talking to accidentally put a request for a warranty exchange to be shipped out and she got a manager override and shipped out a brand new device to me.
Device 4 (New) & Device 5: The new unit had no vibration AT ALL, tried everything and every setting NOTHING. Device 5 was the used refurbished and was actually closer to perfect than the New in Box and Sealed device they sent me. I called and made a big fuss about the new one yet again and they said nothing could be done and I had to return both the devices and we could go from there and another new device being sent to me is out of the question. I argued some more and yelled some more before they said send back Device 4 and the manager told me to keep the Device 5 refurbished unit for now.
Device 6: I had to wait a week till they received Device 4/"New" unit before I called them and spent an hour on the phone arguing with them. So turns out they sent me out another brand new device and they're letting me keep the Device 5 refurbished unit thats working well. I asked what to do with the extra phone and their manager said "use it as an extra MP3 Player or camera..."
LOL so I'm giving one of the phones to my dad and keeping the other. Took a month but I got the better end of the deal no?
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Awesome man. Good to see someone screw AT&T instead of AT&T screwing the person!!
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I was past my 14 days so traded this kid on craigslist for a 64 GB HTC One Silver. After going home I noticed dead pixels and screen discolorations on the One, I talked to AT&T and *****ed at them that the phone has issues, and dead pixels. They were skeptical as to how I went from the S4 to One again and I just told them I traded with my uncle or something.
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Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.

True that...you made the trade for the scratched up One. How is that AT&T's fault? I find this whole thing to be pretty unethical.
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Getting the extra phone is great, but you should have called HTC. They'll repair any HTC device as long as it's still in the 1 years warranty period.
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cdordon said:
Awesome man. Good to see someone screw AT&T instead of AT&T screwing the person!!
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haha for sure man ... in the end i almost gave up ...it was so draining

pbp8ntballer said:
Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.
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no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exxhange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time ... F**K ATT lol

Mr.Mischief said:
Getting the extra phone is great, but you should have called HTC. They'll repair any HTC device as long as it's still in the 1 years warranty period.
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I did call HTC, and they said it would take over 14 business days before I would see my phone again .. i didnt wanna wait that long

Packer2058 said:
no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exxhange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time ... F**K ATT lol
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That's fine and all, but still. What you did was basically unethical and in regards to what you did, you were no better than AT&T, despite their shortcomings.

JazzyCarr0t said:
True that...you made the trade for the scratched up One. How is that AT&T's fault? I find this whole thing to be pretty unethical.
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no dude that guy got the phone from ATT warranty exchange, he didnt even use it, when he gave it to me cosmetically it checked out ... i noticed the dead pixels after i got home... MOST of ATT's warranty exchange refurbs have dead pixels and other issues ... and ATT deserves anything bad that could happen to them with the amount they overcharge their customers and the new little maintenance charge they added to each and every customers bill? ive been grandfathered into their Unlimited Data plan and when I used to go above 2 gb or 3gb they would restrict my speeds and Bottleneck me every single time and sometimes i wouldnt even get HSPA+ speeds let alone LTE speeds ... F**K ATT lol... im one for morality and ethics, but not when ive gotten screwed over by someone or an organization ..

You seem not to understand that the Corporation NEVER, gets screwed. When AT&T does its audit at the end of the year they will just determine that they have to make people pay more.... Like by not honoring 18 month upgrade cycles any longer, next they will add another hundred bucks to premium devices on contract like Verizon. This stuff only screws us in the end.... You should have taken this up with HTC.
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Fight the power! Big companies need to bend over once in a while for their customers.

pbp8ntballer said:
Not to be that guy, but you traded your brand new Galaxy S 4 on with someone on Craigslist, *****ed at AT&T for the Craigslist phone being messed up, and then lied to them on how you received it?
I could see how karma worked itself in your experience with AT&T.
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I agree with this. It's people with a mentally like the OP is what got us into the recession. Getting stuff and not being responsible for their decisions or actions and getting bailed out somehow.

I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?

Packer2058 said:
I did call HTC, and they said it would take over 14 business days before I would see my phone again .. i didnt wanna wait that long
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Yeah, that's a pretty accurate estimation. I'm on prepaid and I've never purchased a phone from the carrier, so I've never really been able to complain to them.
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gunnyman said:
I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?
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That's different. Warranty states it covers any phone you are using.
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Wow... Did you seriously just post a topic on how you cheated at&t to brag about it? I don't like at&t at all but to do this is just wrong. Not only is it unethical it's just plain stupid. Like someone mentioned you did not win in the end. AT&T will rape your ass for the next 2 years.

Personally why do we give a F about a billion dollar company like AT&T?
I personally screw them by getting the HTC One on a subside price and then porting out without getting ETF. Now that's a whole different story.
F them
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gunnyman said:
I've had att warranty cover phones I've bought on Craigslist. Don't see a problem. I don't yell at anyone when I call though. More flies with honey ya know?
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I find this whole thing odd. I bought an HTC One locally, it was only 3 days out from the purchase date. The camera wouldn't focus at all. I took it to a retail store, they wanted a receipt from where it was purchased, no go. I went to the service center, they said they can exchange it when the 14 days are up. I called up 611, said I bought it locally from a 3rd party, and that the camera was broken. They checked the notes from the service center who verified the problem. They sent me out a new device, not a refurb, without any hassle, even gave me priority shipping for free.
AT&T is getting another $75 over the course of my 5 two year contracts with that new admin fee. They have also pushed upgrades from 18mo to 24mo in the last couple years, which means I pay way more than buying the phone outright. I have no problem with what the OP did, if you are getting fu**ed in the ass, at least fight it, don't sit there and take it and buy into the fear of more fees, they are coming regardless.

side808 said:
Wow... Did you seriously just post a topic on how you cheated at&t to brag about it? I don't like at&t at all but to do this is just wrong. Not only is it unethical it's just plain stupid. Like someone mentioned you did not win in the end. AT&T will rape your ass for the next 2 years.
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He didn't cheat them. The phone has a warranty on it for the first year. Doesn't matter if you are the original purchaser or you bought it used. Lay off the op.

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To refurb or not?

So my phone has been overheating and I called in last week to get another one, they said they will send out one as soon as possible. I was looking at the status email that they sent me and in it there is this blurb:
Get started with your
Certified Like-New
Replacement device.
How are there refurbs for this phone already? I usually don't have a problem with refurbs but since i bought a new phone I am expecting a new phone as replacement . Should I keep the refurb or pester them for a new one?

couchmonkey said:
So my phone has been overheating and I called in last week to get another one, they said they will send out one as soon as possible. I was looking at the status email that they sent me and in it there is this blurb:
Get started with your
Certified Like-New
Replacement device.
How are there refurbs for this phone already? I usually don't have a problem with refurbs but since i bought a new phone I am expecting a new phone as replacement . Should I keep the refurb or pester them for a new one?
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Because of all those fanboys returning their Rezound to get the Gnex. Also, there were some phones that did have issues (overheating, "pink buttons", data drops, stuck pixels, etc.).
If I were you, I would accept the refurb device and check EVERY single thing on the phone out to find any issues whatsoever. If you do find something, simply call back and explain how upset you are that you have received two defective devices. Maybe then they CSR can get a brand new one sent out to you.

sadly... refurb means someone else has already had their penis on the phone.
(looked at pr0n, MB'd, touched screen with penis and/or hand that's touched penis)

voxigenboy said:
sadly... refurb means someone else has already had their penis on the phone.
(looked at pr0n, MB'd, touched screen with penis and/or hand that's touched penis)
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Well now I never want a refurb again.... Thanks for making me pay full price for every phone ever from now on

It could have been a beautiful girl with the best smelling................... lol

voxigenboy said:
sadly... refurb means someone else has already had their penis on the phone.
(looked at pr0n, MB'd, touched screen with penis and/or hand that's touched penis)
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Man I couldnt stuff laughing reading that.

blestsol said:
Man I couldnt stuff laughing reading that.
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Sadly, I was quite the opposite (I had 6 refurb Incredibles)

blestsol said:
Man I couldnt stuff laughing reading that.
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I'd say interesting autocorrect but I imagine given the subject matter at hand that it was most likely a Freudian slip.
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AtLemacks said:
It could have been a beautiful girl with the best smelling................... lol
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They Can Keep The Phone, Give Me The Girl.

Refurb
The reason I am so crazy paranoid about checking my phone for heat is that I do not want to enter the refurb pool. Did it three times on my Incredible. The refurb pool right now is full of overheating and dead pixel phones.
But the bigger question is WHY you are in the refurb pool. Isn't the deal that phones bought now get an extended period through January 15th?

jdmba said:
The reason I am so crazy paranoid about checking my phone for heat is that I do not want to enter the refurb pool. Did it three times on my Incredible. The refurb pool right now is full of overheating and dead pixel phones.
But the bigger question is WHY you are in the refurb pool. Isn't the deal that phones bought now get an extended period through January 15th?
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that is why I'm not too worried. if it don't work better, I will just call VZW and get a brand new one. but sometimes, refurb products work better than new. just gonna test this out for now.

jdmba said:
The reason I am so crazy paranoid about checking my phone for heat is that I do not want to enter the refurb pool. Did it three times on my Incredible. The refurb pool right now is full of overheating and dead pixel phones.
But the bigger question is WHY you are in the refurb pool. Isn't the deal that phones bought now get an extended period through January 15th?
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Wow. The phone has only been out a month and they're already talking refurbs? Sucks majorly.
My Incredible lasted 18 months but my daughter went through 3 in the last year.
Dumped down the interwebs from my HTC Rezound

the "Jan 15" extended warrenty only applies to phones purchased from Nov 15+ and only from Verizon stores. If you bought one from Best Buy, Radio Shack, etc... then you just have their warrenty, not the Jan 15 one.(already confirmed with a VZW CSR)

I just got a refurb phone and it's noticeably better. Actually have red LEDs now and the audio, while still somewhat hissy, not near as bad.
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I bet when January/February come around there will be enough warrantied phones that htc will make the attempt to fix at least most of the broad spectrum issues in them.

Marcismo55 said:
Because of all those fanboys returning their Rezound to get the Gnex. Also, there were some phones that did have issues (overheating, "pink buttons", data drops, stuck pixels, etc.).
If I were you, I would accept the refurb device and check EVERY single thing on the phone out to find any issues whatsoever. If you do find something, simply call back and explain how upset you are that you have received two defective devices. Maybe then they CSR can get a brand new one sent out to you.
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that's what they did for.me. I started with a Droid2 then after 5 defects they upped me to a Droid X then a Incredible then incredible2 and finally here I am w a rezound
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There is no way I would accept a refurb at this point. Where did you buy your phone? You should still be in the 30 day exchange window for places like Best Buy.
Do not settle for a refurb! If you do, the chances of you exchanging in the future for a new one are 1 in a million.
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I had 3 rezounds in a row with stuck/dead pixels. For my 4th one I contacted warranty again since they offered to charge a new one to my account since I was out of my 14 day period. So the rep was like oh yeah I see those notes but what I can do for you now is ship you out a Thunderbolt. I'm like really? How is that phone an acceprtable replacement for the Rezound? You guys are giving me a dated device in place of a device that just came out? I was like yeah I'm not going to accept an outdated device to have my DOA phone replaced. Then I asked her so basically what you're telling me is I'm SOL and you guys are like hey! Here's an old phone for the brand new one you just go? She's like uh well I don't want to say it like that... I was like then don't say it, just get me a new rezound shipped out. Ten minutes later brand new Rezound shipped out with no issues besides the occasional audio jack bs. Refurbs aren't too bad the quality has gone up. At this point since the device is so new you'll probably be getting someone's return.

I came to this phone from the charge via refurb and the first one I got had a scratch and the audio problem. However, second one looks like it has never been touched. The screen is perfect and the audio jack is significantly better. The hiss is still there but hardly noticeable at all.

[Q] Worth the upgrade from thunderbolt or wait?

I'm able to upgrade from my Thunderbolt to the Rezound for $99 (I can't seem to stomach the 2-yr contract even at that price!). I like my Thunderbolt but I have the itch to upgrade.... I can probably even sell my Thunderbolt on Ebay and make $100 lol. Anybody coming from a Thunderbolt wishing they stuck with the Thunderbolt and waited for a quad-core?

It's head and shoulders better than the Thunderbolt, but you may as well wait. With only two-year contracts these days it's worth the wait.
I've owned both, and I love my Rezound, but I got it as a replacement. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.

tekhna said:
It's head and shoulders better than the Thunderbolt, but you may as well wait. With only two-year contracts these days it's worth the wait.
I've owned both, and I love my Rezound, but I got it as a replacement. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
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How did you manage to get it as a replacement?! I am on my 3rd replacement for the thunderbolt and they absolutely refuse to give me anything else.

anothen said:
How did you manage to get it as a replacement?! I am on my 3rd replacement for the thunderbolt and they absolutely refuse to give me anything else.
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It was kind of a mess, and it took a week of ****ing up customer service, executive customer service, and some nasty emails. I don't recommend it.
Did you get your TBolt on a one-year contract? That's probably the problem. They told me they pretty much wouldn't give someone who was about to be off-contract a new phone. They eventually did, but it was awful.

tekhna said:
It was kind of a mess, and it took a week of ****ing up customer service, executive customer service, and some nasty emails. I don't recommend it.
Did you get your TBolt on a one-year contract? That's probably the problem. They told me they pretty much wouldn't give someone who was about to be off-contract a new phone. They eventually did, but it was awful.
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Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol

Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.

MrSmith317 said:
Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.
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There will be an HTC One on Verizon soon enough. The MSM8960 SOC supports CDMA and LTE.

MrSmith317 said:
Here's the best question...what would you be waiting for? All of the announced HTC phones aren't for CDMA carriers. Who knows when the next crop of phones would be hitting and what they would be.
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rumored HTC fireball is CDMA and modeled ADR6410 which would be a successor to the Thunderbolt. If it's quad-core and coming in the next 4-6 months it may be the way to go...

anothen said:
Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol
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I was only able to because a CS agent ****ed up. Or, rather, did their job, and Verizon claimed they ****ed up, and so I appealed to a higher power.
A Verizon CS promised me a Rezound as a replacement, said it was in the mail, blah blah blah. I called a few hours later when I realized I wasn't sure if had included a battery and back in the package. The nice lady I talked to saw the order for the Rezound and no order for a battery and a backplate. So she ordered that and sent it to me.
Two days later I get two packages. One with the Rezound battery backplate and battery, and one with a Thunderbolt. One of those wtf moments. So I called in, asked what happened, and after hours on the phone they finally determined that the original CS agent was not authorized to give me a Rezound, and so the order had been cancelled, and they just sent me another Thunderbolt, all without telling me. All the while they gave me at least three or four different reasons, the first being that they had never ordered me a Rezound in the first place. So I asked the obvious question of, so why did I get a Rezound battery and backplate?
In the end they wouldn't budge. Only a Thunderbolt for me. No Rezound possible, despite them promising one to me.
I was kinda pissed, so I wrote executive CS an email detailing the situation. They called me, sorted the story out, and shipped me a Rezound.
I think the only reason I got a Rezound was because of their enormous series of ****ups. Without that they probably would have given me the same brush off they gave you. Well, they tried to give it to me. I'm not sure you'll have any luck--my situation was pretty particular.

Ironically I have a very similar issue. The customer service rep lied to me and said there is no other 4G HTC that is any better than mine so my option was to downgrade to a 3G HTC or take another Thunderbolt. I said "what about the rezound?". He told me the screen size was bigger on the Rezound so that is not possible. I responded by correcting him about the size. He said, "Ok fine, I will try to ship you the Rezound and you may have it by Tuesday but it will probably get denied. I will call you tomorrow if that happens". Sure enough, I was on the phone with his supervisor the next day because he never called me (shocker). They basically told me to pound sand in nice words. Eh whatever...

anothen said:
Exactly the problem. I paid extra for a one-year contract so they told me the same thing: We can't change your phone if you are able to upgrade. I am more than happy to go through the process if it means me not having to be in a stupid 2 year contract lol
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That's weird to me. Because if you're able to upgrade then your contract is coming close to being up and you would be free to go to another carrier. A long time ago on Sprint or Cingular my phone broke when my contract was over and they said they didn't want to give me one for free (I had no insurance or anything) but at the same time they were unable to diagnose what the problem was since it couldn't turn on. So I told them if you can't tell me what's wrong with it and you won't replace it I'll just go get a free phone from another carrier. Within 5 minutes they were giving me a phone. They offered me a particular one and I asked about a different one that was the same price and they let me have that. This was in flip phone days, still it was $100 price on phone.

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That's weird to me. Because if you're able to upgrade then your contract is coming close to being up and you would be free to go to another carrier. A long time ago on Sprint or Cingular my phone broke when my contract was over and they said they didn't want to give me one for free (I had no insurance or anything) but at the same time they were unable to diagnose what the problem was since it couldn't turn on. So I told them if you can't tell me what's wrong with it and you won't replace it I'll just go get a free phone from another carrier. Within 5 minutes they were giving me a phone. They offered me a particular one and I asked about a different one that was the same price and they let me have that. This was in flip phone days, still it was $100 price on phone.
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I'm able to cancel in June... Verizon allows you to upgrade 4 months ahead of contract renewal.

It probably depends on your usage habits. My wife has a year left with the TB, but it's a great phone for her. The Rezound screen and camera are leaps and bounds better, but the battery life and overheating issues make me hesitant to say its a substantially better device.
If you are a power user who will really appreciate the screen and speed, upgrade. Otherwise wait for the next batch of phones that we're sure to see late summer or so. May as well stay on the cutting edge if you have the option!

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There will be an HTC One on Verizon soon enough. The MSM8960 SOC supports CDMA and LTE.
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Don't take this as a wiseass commnent or anything but...Doesn't the Rezound have GSM hardware? When (other than the iPhone) has a manufacturer retrofitted a phone to work on Verizon?

From my experience and other's, they will pretty much only bulge ONLY if you are still a year or so ahead from the contract being done. People where able to upgrade from a Droid Charge to other 4G devices, same with the Bionic. Im getting my wife her 3rd Droid Charge replacement, it keeps dropping 4G like there's no tomorrow whereas my Rezound is perfectly fine. One more complaint and they guranteed me a different 4G phone.

From reading a bunch of other similar posts like mine, I think I'm gonna make the jump. @ $99 for such a powerful device, I'd probably be crazy for passing it up when it very recently came out
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From reading a bunch of other similar posts like mine, I think I'm gonna make the jump. @ $99 for such a powerful device, I'd probably be crazy for passing it up when it very recently came out
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I agree, I do have a feeling the Rezound will stay the best HTC phone on Verizon until the summer and even then still stay relevant.

Don't tell that to Verizon, they did a piss poor job of marketing the phone.

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Don't tell that to Verizon, they did a piss poor job of marketing the phone.
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Agreed! But I don't mind the price drop! Lol
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I'm able to upgrade from my Thunderbolt to the Rezound for $99 (I can't seem to stomach the 2-yr contract even at that price!). I like my Thunderbolt but I have the itch to upgrade.... I can probably even sell my Thunderbolt on Ebay and make $100 lol. Anybody coming from a Thunderbolt wishing they stuck with the Thunderbolt and waited for a quad-core?
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Dual core = not necessary Quad core = derp derp derp derp derp.

Assurion Claim - Heads Up

Hi All,
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about making claims to Assurion.
TL-DR
Make sure to verify the hardware is fully in tact when getting an Assurion claim. Report even the slightest defect.
I dropped my phone about 3 weeks ago. Bummer. I got my "Like New" Assurion replacement. I immediately noticed the battery door didn't seem to fit well on the replacement, and would come unclipped very easily; sometimes when pulling out of my pouch. I shrugged it off as a problem with the door itself from opening and re-closing during the S-Off process, and just planned to buy a new door.
After flashing ROMs, S-Offing, etc, I noticed the door fit perfectly on the original as I was migrating all the data from the device (door was on because WiFi wouldn't connect otherwise). Hmmmmm.
I closely looked at the two devices, and noticed a very very small bulge coming from underneath the red cover that holds the battery. The bulge is so small, it almost seems too small to cause any problems, but it is.
I called Assurion, and they told me that if I had called in sooner, they'd send a replacement, but because I was outside of my 7 day window, they would not send a replacement.
I spoke to a supervisor (before I had my morning coffee; bad idea) and laid into him. He snapped back a bit that I should have let him finish, and he'd override the policy and send me a new replacement without forcing me to make a new claim.
In closing, if you're going to make an Assurion claim, physically inspect the device very carefully and report the smallest of problems you may find, even if you can't find the cause or think you may be imagining it.
Something interesting I noticed is that the new device did not have the VOID sticker on the screw, because I was thinking about swapping the back from the old phone to the new one. They may not have noticed, but I didn't want to chance it. The good news is now, if I have to replace a screen or something, the missing VOID sticker means I can replace the parts and they won't know I was tinkering inside .
Hope this helps someone avoid future frustration.

When I was having my OG Droid replaced, they kept sending me refurb ones that had literally TON of dust under the glass (I literally could not use it outside because of how much dust it was, you couldn't see the screen). I went through like 6 of them before they just sent me a new D2G.
I highly recommend being anal as HELL when you get a refurb from them.

I also report mine as lost not broken or any of that. Had a case were my mom sent one back and they said they "never got it". Believe me when I say this my mom sent the broken phone back. If they want their phones back they should us a carrier that allows tracking. That said if you are going to send one back be sure to get proof of shipping from the post office. That at least proves you shipped it then it can be between them and not you and them.
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And before someone jumps my ****, its not like I "loose" phones everyday. I have only had one claim on the EVO3D about a year ago or more.

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I also report mine as lost not broken or any of that. Had a case were my mom sent one back and they said they "never got it". Believe me when I say this my mom sent the broken phone back. If they want their phones back they should us a carrier that allows tracking. That said if you are going to send one back be sure to get proof of shipping from the post office. That at least proves you shipped it then it can be between them and not you and them.
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And before someone jumps my ****, its not like I "loose" phones everyday. I have only had one claim on the EVO3D about a year ago or more.
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I had the same issue with returning my brother's dumbphone. They said they had not received the phone and charged the account $519. Luckily I had held on to the proof of shipment. Two months later and after my account had been suspended twice for not paying the balance they corrected the error.
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zone23 said:
I also report mine as lost not broken or any of that. Had a case were my mom sent one back and they said they "never got it". Believe me when I say this my mom sent the broken phone back. If they want their phones back they should us a carrier that allows tracking. That said if you are going to send one back be sure to get proof of shipping from the post office. That at least proves you shipped it then it can be between them and not you and them.
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And before someone jumps my ****, its not like I "loose" phones everyday. I have only had one claim on the EVO3D about a year ago or more.
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Thank you very much. I hadn't thought about that. I'll be sure to get proof of shipment from the post office.
Cheers!

Asurion DROPPED me from my insurance saying I filed too many claims in a year, when in fact they were on different phones and 14 months apart. I called Verizon and Asurion, they realized they misappropriated a claim I made for my mom on her DInc2 that my baby brother decided needed a bath. They said I should have used all of her information on the claim, I told them no because it asked for the account holder info which is in fact ME.

zone23 said:
I also report mine as lost not broken or any of that. Had a case were my mom sent one back and they said they "never got it". Believe me when I say this my mom sent the broken phone back. If they want their phones back they should us a carrier that allows tracking. That said if you are going to send one back be sure to get proof of shipping from the post office. That at least proves you shipped it then it can be between them and not you and them.
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And before someone jumps my ****, its not like I "loose" phones everyday. I have only had one claim on the EVO3D about a year ago or more.
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so my screen is cracked because i dropped it. should i report it stolen? or just send it back? btw NEVER broke a phone before this one...

antp121 said:
so my screen is cracked because i dropped it. should i report it stolen? or just send it back? btw NEVER broke a phone before this one...
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Its the old "do as I say not as I do" its insurance fraud when in fact you still have the phone. You are lying to the insurance company..
PM sent..

Wait, WTF? They didn't send you a BNIB rezound? I busted my D2 back a year + ago and they sent out a BNIB. If I have to pay 100 bucks for a "deductible" they better send me a new one. not a refurb POS.

Well I am glad you all had GREAT experience with Assurion. I have had 1 bad experience and it ticked me off. Had a 32gb iPhone 4S. Notice the S there. Well long story short screen cracked, paid 200, got a new one sent to me. BNIB! Well I open it. Hmm something is not right here. Wait what is this? A iphone 4? Wheres my S. Wait theres more. There is a memory change? 16GB? Really? I called and the Support said that is the phone I had insured. NOOOOOOOOOOO SIR. Thats like using a strap on with the wife. Its just wrong! So I called Verizon thinking last resort ill argue with these guys. OMFG! Not only did they contact Assurion for me, but they gave me a 200 Credit on my account, and all I had to do was take the iPhone they sent me to a Verizon store and they replaced it with a 32GB iPhone 4S. Which needless to say I gave to my wife, for her sweet brand new REZOUND!! Never been happier!!

Get rid of Asurion
It is overpriced and refurbs suck! I use SquareTrade. If they cannot fix it, they give me full retail for it deposited right to my paypal.
And they are cheaper than Asurion

Weird they would send you a refurub.. My friends replacement from Asurion was brand new in box. Mine too.

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Weird they would send you a refurub.. My friends replacement from Asurion was brand new in box. Mine too.
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I think it depends on stock. I've received both. I had a work phone stolen and they sent me a BNIB. Same for my WinMo device that was broken by the case VZW sold me.

It's odd how they replace things. When the power button broke on my OG Droid they told me to just send the unit itself and nothing else. I got a refurbished in return. When I bricked my Incredible they sent me a brand new unit with all the accessories and everything.
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ProtectCell rocks...just sayin

sabwjawdjw said:
Well I am glad you all had GREAT experience with Assurion. I have had 1 bad experience and it ticked me off. Had a 32gb iPhone 4S. Notice the S there. Well long story short screen cracked, paid 200, got a new one sent to me. BNIB! Well I open it. Hmm something is not right here. Wait what is this? A iphone 4? Wheres my S. Wait theres more. There is a memory change? 16GB? Really? I called and the Support said that is the phone I had insured. NOOOOOOOOOOO SIR. Thats like using a strap on with the wife. Its just wrong! So I called Verizon thinking last resort ill argue with these guys. OMFG! Not only did they contact Assurion for me, but they gave me a 200 Credit on my account, and all I had to do was take the iPhone they sent me to a Verizon store and they replaced it with a 32GB iPhone 4S. Which needless to say I gave to my wife, for her sweet brand new REZOUND!! Never been happier!!
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Damn now that's good service on Verizon's part. But if the 4 had 32gb of memory, how the hell can you tell the 4 and 4s apart? It's the same phone with a new letter behind it and marked up price tag?
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Ok i never had a problem with asurion and I am still a noob but I got a custom rom! (4 bricks)finally learned enough to feel less noon. My point is this. All phones should be reported lost. You can keep the broke one and who knows, maybe you learn enough to fix it. I'm still kicking myself in the ass about the one I sent back for a black screen. I know exactly how to fix it now but I sent it back. Grrrrrr
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Cheated by T-Mobile.

Guys and girls today I got cheated by T-Mobile Last week I was riding my motorcycle and my phone fell out of my pocket so I got a warranty replacement phone trough Asurion for 130 bucks. It's not too much for a new device but here comes the messed up part. I get the device and it would constantly drop signal or do random reboots with no connection at all for the next half hour and crap like that. So I went to T-Mobile and told them about my issues and they gave me a new sim card so I was like ok that will fix it but no it kept doing the same stuff. I went to T-Mobile again and they gave me another sim card and told me to contact HTC about a new back cover since it might be the antena causing all the issues. I did that got the new cover and nothing same crap all over again so I got pissed off and called T-Mobile and they agreed to exchange my phone but since the amaze is currently out of stock they offered me 2 choices: HTC sensation and Samsung exhibit 2. I wount even comment on the exhibit since its not even remotely close to any type of phone that came out at the time of the amaze even stationary phones have better statistics than that crap. For the sensation yes ok that's a great phone I had before I paid 280 bucks for my amaze. So I *****ed at them for 30 more mins and the agreed to add the Samsung galaxy s2 ****rocket to the list. Anything else was "too much of an upgrade" to be aledgeble. So I had 0 chance of getting anything good. At the end I agreed to have the galaxy and I feel really cheated. I was told to call the retention center by a friend of mine. Do you guys think that it would have an impact at the situation and what would you do?
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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Guys and girls today I got cheated by T-Mobile Last week I was riding my motorcycle and my phone fell out of my pocket so I got a warranty replacement phone trough Asurion for 130 bucks. It's not too much for a new device but here comes the messed up part. I get the device and it would constantly drop signal or do random reboots with no connection at all for the next half hour and crap like that. So I went to T-Mobile and told them about my issues and they gave me a new sim card so I was like ok that will fix it but no it kept doing the same stuff. I went to T-Mobile again and they gave me another sim card and told me to contact HTC about a new back cover since it might be the antena causing all the issues. I did that got the new cover and nothing same crap all over again so I got pissed off and called T-Mobile and they agreed to exchange my phone but since the amaze is currently out of stock they offered me 2 choices: HTC sensation and Samsung exhibit 2. I wount even comment on the exhibit since its not even remotely close to any type of phone that came out at the time of the amaze even stationary phones have better statistics than that crap. For the sensation yes ok that's a great phone I had before I paid 280 bucks for my amaze. So I *****ed at them for 30 more mins and the agreed to add the Samsung galaxy s2 ****rocket to the list. Anything else was "too much of an upgrade" to be aledgeble. So I had 0 chance of getting anything good. At the end I agreed to have the galaxy and I feel really cheated. I was told to call the retention center by a friend of mine. Do you guys think that it would have an impact at the situation and what would you do?
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Don't get me wrong when I start off like this, because I AM here to help and I do completely understand how you feel but, the subject line of this is inappropriate. It's not t mobiles fault
A)there's a shortage of amazes that is completely beyond t mobile's control
B) the invoice cost of the amaze is currently $450, so offering you a phone that still carries a $600 invoice cost (still sucks because its not an amaze, cant blame you for not wanting the S2 but) ain't an unfair exchange
And C) if there's anyone to blame, its presumably apple for the customs holdup of HTC product that recently happened and is almost certainly at least a major contributer in the current Amaze inventory issue.
However... that being said. Since you accepted the order for the galaxy s 2, I'm not certain retention can help you. It did not however effect your contract in any way. I'd say once you actually receive your s2, and if you are in all fact not that happy with it, call them (dial 611 and say "cancel service'' when the automated system asks how it can help) and explain the situation. Tell them you're a diehard HTC fan and hate the S2 and that youre strongly leaning towards an Evo 4gLTE or One X and see what happens. If your contract date is indeed close to coming up, they may still offer you a bargained price on a One S, (assuming amaze inventory is still depleted then, otherwise they might be able to send you another amaze at that point).
That's all i can really say about that. Don't blame you for being upset in the least. It sucks for everyone right now. Wish I had amazes to sell for dirt cheap at my work still but they're all gone =)
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You can always go to the marketplace and trade with someone for the amaze.
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Xcor3 said:
You can always go to the marketplace and trade with someone for the amaze.
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Someone would easily trade a galaxy s2 for an amaze so that is always an option.
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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It's not retarded... just because there are some stores that still have the amaze (which are few and far between if you're in a major city) doesn't mean that someone over the phone in a completely different department that runs off of completely different inventory would magically have access to a retail store's inventory. They could try calling every store in the customer's area to find one. Id say that'd be reasonable and logical given the circumstances... But even then, the retail manager would have to do a $450 override which goes against the store's ability to help other customers with issues actually related to the retail channel. Sucky situation for sure.
No offense intendex, just education is all. There is a lack of inventory on the amaze. The only ones with access are the stores lucky enough to not have sold out their inventory yet.
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Call back again and ***** some more. It's your device...they, as a corporate company, should have it available. I know there are stores that carry it so its just retarded that they won't give you a brand new one.
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Calling to complain to put it in "better" words is a great way to get shut down and get crappy asistance with no solutions. The customer service people could easily just shut down and go by policy and op would get no help. Since he got a gs2 then he obviously got someone willing to help but that attitude gets people no help. To address your post while ridiculous as it is, stores carry devices for sale not for exchange and T-Mobile won't take the loss on a new unit when it should be exchanged with a refurb as per the warranty, most stores are short on them as it is, unfortunately T-Mobile can't help the reasons they can't sell the amaze at the moment and customer care has a lot of things at there disposal to try and do for op but the store will make a decision following managers orders so getting one at a store is gonna he more difficult then over the phone.
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Last time I had issues with my mt4g (my third one in a year was breaking, so I was calling to get a fourth replacement sent out) I went straight to retention and got a new mt4g sent out as a replacement but the rep was kind of a know-it-all jerk so I called back and somehow got upgraded the amaze for free(I gave the mt4g to my brother, ha). I was just nice to them and told them I wasn't happy with all the exchanges.
I was honestly shocked when they offered the amaze, but I think it was cuz I was extremely polite and kept saying I love TMobile and HTC but I wasn't happy. And prob that I've been with them for almost 15 years...haha. Anyways, I say give it a shot.
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eliasadrian said:
Last time I had issues with my mt4g (my third one in a year was breaking, so I was calling to get a fourth replacement sent out) I went straight to retention and got a new mt4g sent out as a replacement but the rep was kind of a know-it-all jerk so I called back and somehow got upgraded the amaze for free(I gave the mt4g to my brother, ha). I was just nice to them and told them I wasn't happy with all the exchanges.
I was honestly shocked when they offered the amaze, but I think it was cuz I was extremely polite and kept saying I love TMobile and HTC but I wasn't happy. And prob that I've been with them for almost 15 years...haha. Anyways, I say give it a shot.
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I got my Amaze in exchange for a faulty G2 =)
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I have manners when I speak to customer service. And I think everyone should. I just believe there is something more that a major corporation can do. I don't literally mean go in there guns blazing. Just go with a high concern and tell them you don't want any of those phones offered. You paid for the Amaze. Offered a Warranty. Opted to have Insurance. Pay for services. Why would you have to settle for something you don't want? That's all. Just my opinion.
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I wasn't disrespectful in any way during the call but I was really upset. Given the fact that I spent quite a lot of my personal time dealing with the faulty device they gave me they still made me pay 20$ for them to ship me the galaxy s2. I do understand that I'm talkin to people doing their job on the other end but they have to understand that I'm giving them my hard earned money and when they put me in a position like this ill just find some1 else to give it to. I don't think that ill be renewing my contract with them.
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I wasn't disrespectful in any way during the call but I was really upset. Given the fact that I spent quite a lot of my personal time dealing with the faulty device they gave me they still made me pay 20$ for them to ship me the galaxy s2. I do understand that I'm talkin to people doing their job on the other end but they have to understand that I'm giving them my hard earned money and when they put me in a position like this ill just find some1 else to give it to. I don't think that ill be renewing my contract with them.
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$20 is a lot easier to swallow than the $50 charged by verizon in some cases.
Besides... If you're paying $4.79 a month for insurance only you might as well get the full $7.99 package that gives your (very expensive) smartphone a lifetime warranty and makes shipments for warranty exchanges $5 and delivered over night rather than $20 for 7 business days. That's a mere 10.6 cent difference per day. Even if you had no protection at all that's still only a .26 cent per day difference. Sometimes you get the level of service you're willing to pay for
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Just trade it if you want an amaze so much. Sure someone locally has one and wants an s2.

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Just trade it if you want an amaze so much. Sure someone locally has one and wants an s2.
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I'll probablydo that once I get the device
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I wouldn't settle for those terms, none of those phones are comparable replacements, and they aren't limited by just their last invoice value - here is how I get s*%t done.
First, the only phone comparable is the HTC one x. Hardware wise it IS the only comparable phone. You can be nice and respectful while still explaining that this is NOT a fair trade. Just tell them that your insurance was able to provide you with a replacement, even if it is faulty, tmobile should be able to offer you the same phone or something that compares HARDWARE wise. Mention that you still don't like that the HTC one doesn't have a removable battery or external SD, but you'd be willing to take that rather than an amaze if they don't have it. Sound like you are reluctantly willing, not super excited and scamming them.
Here is the secret! The lowest tiers of all forms of customer support simply CANNOT do some things - but their boss can. Or their bosses boss. You aren't trying to get the guy on the bottom in trouble, you are "escalating the issue". One of the people as you go up the ranks will want to help you, especially if you say things like "I have been a customer for xx years", "most of my family is with TMO because I recommended you, so I'd like to know you'll make this right", and "if you were in this position you'd want a GOOD replacement, right? I mean I spent $600 on this phone and they are offering me blah blah.."
You aren't trying to be argumentative, you're trying to get what you deserve. You bought a $600 phone, spent at least $10 per month for insurance since then, and you want a phone at LEAST as good as what you had considering how much you've invested - and you DID bring all your friends and family to TMO, if you switch perhaps they will too? How much will NOT giving you a phone potentially effect their future profits? If your family leaves tmo, their friends leave tmo, THEIR friends.. some one higher on the food chain will see that an extra $100 loss is worth potentially saving years of thousands in profits - their boss will approve. It is what they do. If they fix your problem they know you will tell everyone you know how great tmobile is, how great they treat you as a customer.. if they do it make sure to thank them, tell them you understand the guys below them are just doing their job.. be thankful.
I've destroyed macbooks and gotten replacements with better specs(it took getting escalated to the assistant vice-president of marketing), I've genuinely made a lot of mistakes that are my fault.. but if they want your FUTURE business, they will do you right and overlook things. Someone will, you just have to put in the time/effort - if it is worth it to you.

And if you do settle then what about any accessories that was purchased? Are they willing to compensate you for those? The Amaze hasn't even been out for a year and its not a supported device? You buy a phone expecting to use it for at least a year. It's hasn't even been around that long.
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Shouldn't you be dealing with Asurion since they are the ones who did the original warranty replacement and gave you a defective unit? They almost certainly have more refurbs available so they should be able to send you another Amaze. Yes, it will be another refurb, which sucks, but that seems like what you want more than the S2.
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Your insurance should replace the phone BTW.
You had to complain to get a gs2?
They offered it to me yesterday as an exchange upfront.
Spec wise it IS a comparable replacement. They have the same exact insides. Only real difference is the camera on the amaze is a lil better and the screens. Its just not your kinda phone. You want what you want
Be lucky they offered that though. There not going to offer you a ONE S lets say, cuz its brand new.
I do agree though, they should have more amaze's to give out and its BS that they dont, BUT if they only had one phone to offer, that would be the one I would expect because at least it has teh same specs and is not a downgrade, SPEC wise.

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Your insurance should replace the phone BTW.
You had to complain to get a gs2?
They offered it to me yesterday as an exchange upfront.
Spec wise it IS a comparable replacement. Its just not your kinda phone.
Be lucky they offered that though. There not going to offer you a ONE S lets say, cuz its brand new.
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T-Mobile & Asurion

Don't know if this is the correct forum or not, but I am certain I will be informed by somebody else should this be misplaced.
So.... I lost my phone last weekend and I subsequently filed a claim with Asurion, T-Mobile's insurance provider. However, I have a strange circumstance that did not require me to suspend my service. I was at the T-Mobile store getting a micro SIM card for use with another phone I was planning on flashing over to T-Mobile. Anyhow as it turns out, I could not get a micro SIM as it would render my service useless on my phone (unless of course I possessed a SIM card adapter, which I found existed after this incident). So the rep had to issue me a new SIM card.
After I all of that excitement I noticed I was running late picking-up my kids. So I rushed from the store, and I swear that I had all of my phones & SIM cards with me. However, upon returning home I could not locate my phone. I thought to myself that it must have fallen between the seats and that I would search for it after the kids leave. So I broke out the new SIM card and an old MyTouch 3G Slide to use during the interim. After the kids left I searched for my phone with no success. I even called the T-Mobile store and there too was informed they were not in possession of my Amaze.
I waited to file my claim anyways as I really believed my phone must be in my vehicle, especially as my truck is notorious for consuming cell phone, wallets, etc.! Sunday comes around and I still haven't found my Amaze. So I file a claim with Asurion, and I wait to hear back from them. Six hours later I get an e-mail response saying they have news about my claim. So I call the 866# and I am informed by a rep that my claim is denied because my line has been in use. I of course explain my story, and the rep claims to understand. They check with T-Mobile to see when the last use of my phone occurred and according to them it was the following day. This is odd, but my thought is that I had not used my phone the entire day prior to filing my claim thus the report of the last use of my phone.
After all is said and done, the rep at Asurion files another claim assuring me that this claim would not be rejected & that she would call me within 24 hours. I never heard from the rep so I called again only to be informed that my claim again is denied with no reason given. So again I tell the rep what happened, and again the rep says the understand, calls T-Mobile, and files another claim with all the same promises as before. Next day I get the same e-mail as I received prior which by now indicates to me that my claim is denied. This time when I call I decided to escalate the situation. Well, this only further confused the rep I spoke with as they also refused to allow me to speak to a supervisor while claiming they could solve the issue. I get placed on hold by this rep with the excuse that HE needed to contact T-Mobile. He comes back on the line, and right away starts to tell me that my line is insured not my phone! I of course already have the literature from Asurion pulled up. I very firmly explain to him that every single reason he has given me for not honoring my claim is complete BS.
This representative continued to hold his ground that my phone line is insured, that if they cannot detect the phone on the network the claim is no good and some other idiotic excuse that I rebutted. By now he can tell that I am not very satisfied with their tactics, nor his level of service. So he again places me on hold telling me that HE will speak with T-Mobile. Well... I got blind transferred to T-Mobile, and of course I am informed that they cannot process the insurance claim. I immediately ask to speak with a supervisor. So I get placed on hold, rep returns telling me that I need to wait and she asks me if she could place me on hold again, then she hangs-up on me. Great! An hour on the phone & I get nowhere.
So I decided to try the online support people. Which when I am chatting online sometimes with "customer support" I 100% feel that I am speaking with a chat-bot! This 'person' also tells me that they cannot do anything. However, he offers me phone upgrades on all 4 lines of service. So while I am waiting for this 'person' to type their next reply I began to search for an upgrade. Some upgrade it turns out to be as they are basically offering me to purchase phones at the full retail price. I let the rep know that this is such a bogus benefit and that I could purchase a phone at the full retail price anytime I wished. Enough of this; I'll just call T-Mobile one last time and inform them straight away that this is the last opportunity for them to get this right, and that after dealing with Asurion & their less than stellar service, I will not be calling them. This time I actually get a person that really understands the words coming from my mouth. He ends up filing the claim with Asurion for me, and after speaking to 10 people by now informs me that my claim will continue to be denied unless I suspend my service!
I had figured by now that no human is involved in the processing of claims. Looks like I am correct in my assessment. Sigh.... So again I get a notice this morning that my claim is ready and to call again, which is code for your claim is denied. Yup, my 5th claim is denied. So I am typing out this story of frustration while I await a reply to my 6th claim. A claim which I have finally adapted all of my responses for their automated system to understand.
I realize this is very long winded, but I appreciate your understanding of my frustration with what I now view as some sort of scheme. A scheme that is meant to bilk consumers out of their hard earned dollars, and never provide the service for which they have paid.
Am I the only person that has had this issue with Asurion/T-Mobile or any other carrier as it seams Asurion has the market cornered on providing Phone Replacement Insurance for every major carrier?!
Sadly Sent from my A500 while I feel lonely without my Amaze 4G

sorry to hear..
This is why Ive NEVER gotten insurance on ANY phone i've ever owned (be it on t-mobile, or verizon, or sprint). Because of the fact I know they all insure through asurion and I know for a fact Asurion sucks balls. Ive heard and read so many horror stories about asurion...not to mention the replacement phones they send out are usually garbage. theyre usually refurbished phones..and by refurbished phones they clean the screen, make sure it turns on, and then call it good. the same phone that went in for signal problems will 99% come out with signal problems. Eff asurion in the a, seriously. dont ever get asurion insurance again. if you ever do get insurance on the phone make sure its carrier insurance, not insurance via 3rd party (aka asurion)
i hope everything works out well for you.

Update:
Just as I planned I received an email finally approving my claim! This is what happens when an f-ing computer decides what to do. There quite literally has been no human involvement with my claim. Yet these ya'hoo's talk about fraud & all this other crap.
I got news for you idiots: when a system is finally figured out by people, then it is ripe for being manipulated.
I do agree very much with the post above me though. Stay away from the insurance for more reasons then the fact that you will be ripped off by this company. My opinion is that you save the $8/month you would pay towards the insurance & save it specifically for a fund for your phone.
Another note: I have been reading a whole lot of posts about stolen or lost devices. I highly suggest installing some program such as Lookout. I am still checking on my phone every day to see if it has been turned back on/found by somebody.
Other security ideas to consider: encrypting the data on your phone & SD card, locking the phone, password protecting the SIM card and with ICS entering owner info that is displayed on the lock screen (there are still some honest persons out there, they just don't always think to call the carrier to let them know they found a phone).
About the above security suggestions... I know that people complain about how unlocking the phone takes too much time. My sister is the biggest complainer I know. I did her a favor by installing Lookout on her brand new Amaze. Anyways, the 3 seconds it takes to unlock your phone can save you the headache later.
Just saying!
Sent from a paranoid android owner without their Amaze using my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide via xda premium

I've been shelling out money to these folks for the past 3yrs now.
What I want to know is did you call and tell T-Mobile that you lost the phone? Because they should be able to IMEI block it. Then I would go as far as to get a police report and then send in the claim again. Once that they see your phone is IMEI blocked then it should qualify your claim. Don't quote me on this but its worth a shot.
Good Luck.

If they don't ever wanna cooperate, always file a complaint with the BBB. Works with me
http://www.bbb.org/nashville/busine...on-insurance-services-in-nashville-tn-2131781

Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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WellTrainedVC said:
Received replacement late yesterday. Upon plugging in for initial charge noticed that the usb connector is loose, and yes I am using the charger sent with the phone.
I have to say my loyalty to this underrated phone is waning, and the thought of jumping over to Samsung is worrisome. I cannot and will not use a phone that I cannot replace the battery or add memory! Sorry HTC, but the One line lacks a whole lot of thought.
If my Acer tablet had cellular capability, I would just use it. The A500 has the best battery life I've ever had in an electronic product, and is well designed & constructed. Only problem is the optics, they suck.
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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''

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you have to realize you recieved a refurbished product, not a new one. furthemore it was refurbished by ASURION not HTC. so factor both of those in and be happy it even works. Asurion's QC is horrible most of the time it seems they make sure it turns on and then say ''okay its fine''
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Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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WellTrainedVC said:
Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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if you know its a refurbished phone, then dont be mad at HTC =)
I say give the OneS a good try. You may find that the removeable battery isnt all its cracked out to be. yeah no sd slot is a bummer but seriously give it a shot. Personally I would have asked for another amaze. =)

I cancelled my insurance a few days ago because of this post! I'll never send another penny to Asurion.
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Blame people that scam for all of this non sense, by all means I don't fully agree with all of asurions practices but working for tmobile I get to see the side you guys dont. People call in for claims by using there friends phones to try and get better phones, people that "lost" it and we check there call history and someone they know is using it, etc..... its easy to be upset I would if I was in ops shoes but if you understand the system insurance is great to have, I always tell people if you lose your phone first things first file your claim get it started even if u don't complete it you can get the proper direction on what steps to do once its lost to get your service up and running till you get a new one.
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Aaueion has new. Nothing but great to me. They bent over backwards to take care of me. I went from a G2 to a one s.
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Cant really say I have any complains with Asurion other than the T Mobile store I went to was out of Amazes so I got stuck with a SGS2. Although technacly two SGS2s ebcause the first one had a problem where when making a call nothing would be heard, so luckilly I was in the parking lot still and went back in and got a replacement. I tried talking to the lady into letting me pay a difference for a OneS but she said not :/ I love HTCs so its kind of a bummer to have a Samsung but I cant complain too much either.
Also off topic: Glad to see the Amaze finally got CM9 working, well GSM atleast

WellTrainedVC said:
Yeah. I know now that this is a newly refurbished P.O.S.! I am not pleased at all. Just got off the phone with Asurion. They are sending me an One S. I really don't know what to do here. I want my Amaze. I'm not willing to get a product that I cannot change the battery out of or add memory to. If that were the case, I'd get an iPhone.
May send back the One S.
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ONE S is probably the best phone i've ever used from T-Mboile. (after flashing a new rom with the 3dots menu removed) nice battery life, thin, slick, fast, feels great in my hand, awesome bright screen that's just the right size for one hand use. I like it much better than my S3, except the no microSD card slot part. non removable battery doesnt really matter if you have have the 3.99 warranty replacement.

I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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They deductible is around 125-130$ also if you decide to go that route, PRAY or call a Tmo store ahead to see if they even have any Amaze's left. There were none at the store I filed my claim so I got stuck with a SGS2

Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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edgerunner_423 said:
I just cracked my my amaze screen the other day,even had the d30 case. It just landed on its face sadly.. but what kind of deductible does assurion charge ? I'm debating on just keeping the phone cause its just a hairline crack straight up the middle of the screen.
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Dang, I didn't even pay that much for the phone. I convinced tmobile to fork it over for 50... No way I'm paying twice as much for a refurb. Thanks though.
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I cracked my screen a few weeks ago. I also had the D3O case but it didn't help at all. the deductible was $130 and Asurion set my replacement right away (called about 23:00 Saturday night and had new phone Tuesday morning). the one they sent me was a brand new phone in a sealed unopened box, so now I have a spare battery, battery cover and SIM card.

That makes it sound much better. New phone and an extra battery will be sweet. I'll go for it. Thanks
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May send back the One S.
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I would trade my Amaze for a One S in a heartbeat. Going to the S4 processor and be able to run Cyanogenmod. Heck, the One S has a much more stable CM10 than the Amaze does for CM9. I hate that I can't get a stable Cyanogenmod ROM on my phone.

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