Help I'm a noob DOWNGRADING - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

hi there
i'm a noob i have read alll the info on the wiki page and need a way to downgrade to windows mobile 2003. The previous owner put Windows Mobile 6 (TOFCLOCK) on it.
thanks in advance for anyone than can help me!
ps i have a Qtek 2020 device

check it O2.com...

I had a look but coudn't find anything. I checked their forum as well no luck, Maybe if i phoned o2 and said i have an XDA 2 therer would help? IS it worth doing that?
Thanks

downgrades would work like upgrades just with an older nbf file
pretty sure the upgrade tool don't care that the nbf is an older then the current

How do i get a upgrade tool and how do i know where to get the 'nbf' file. Will it break my phone?

upgrade tool is called HimaUpgradeUt.exe
and is included in all zip and rar rom packets
the .nbf file is the rom also included in the rom packets
how you flash and what to be careful of
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Himalaya

Hi thanks for all the help! I really want to downgrade but i'm scared it might go all wrong. I don't want to end up with a broken phone! Should i try and downgrade?

in theory all up and downgrades can result in a dead device
it's up to you

thanks very much for all the help and advice

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Official i-mate rom won't install after installing t-mobile

Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
Re: Official i-mate rom won't install after installing t-mob
jonburge said:
Earlier, I installed unofficial T-Mobile 1.6 rom on my i-mate. I just recenlty tried installing the official i-mate update and there is a country code. I don't have the old rom to revert to. Can anyone help. I know I would have to at the least get a copy of the old rom and then install it into the i-mate. Again, since I don't have a backup of the old one, I would need info on how to get one first.
The T-Mobile unofficial one works fine. I just wanted to go back to always on gprs etc. that the i-mate update has. If not, I guess I will have to wait until the rom kitchen is up and running for this unit. :lol:
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I think you better try it using bootloader way, because t-mobile protect it's update, it happen in XDAI if you update your XDA to 4.16 and you want to go back to 4.11 then you have to update it using bootloader to be able to go back from the previous one 4.11 8) hope this help you...opps correction please there is no bootloader on XDA II, there is bootloader but in different way, I think if you copy your old nbf to sd using xdatools and go to bootloader by using power+anydirection+ reset it will ask to download the nbf to you device... hmmm if this doesn't work you have to look for another way.
T-Mobile 1.60 BUGGY Rom - Want to go back to iMate ROM
Folks,
I'm in the same position - Can someone please outline the success they've had going back from the T-Mobile 1.60 ROM to Imate ROM 1.5283??
Any thoughts would be great... (I'm guessing the boot loader using an SD card may work but would love to hear of any new tricks that people have learned on this
Cheers
Andy
I'll try to help.
Where can the ROM be downloaded, so I can have a look at it.
Jos
T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
Thanks
I've uploaded the new iMate ROM image to:
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/ruu15283.zip
The somewhat flakey T-Mobile 1.6.006 ROM (which I'm trying to get away from is at
http://www.c1au.com/iMatePDAROMS/TMobile160.zip
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
The new iMate ROM is meant to be the best bet around at the moment and my device is an iMate in the first place. The only reason why I installed the T-Mobile one was to get the Bluetooth GPS fix (which works well) - BUT so many other things aren't as stable!!
The new iMate ROM is meant to have the BT GPS fix as well.
Any help, much appreciated!
Cheers
Andy
Re: T-Mobile Back to iMate ROM
acurtis007 said:
Thanks
Of course, with the different operator / country codes, it's not just a matter of running the .EXE - It'll need to involve the boot loader of a little hex editing of the header, I'm guessing (just guessing?!)
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That's correct, you need to mod it.
I'll make a procedure for it.
Jos
THANKS!
You're a champion!
Thanks very much..
It sounds like there's a few people that'll thank you!
The other posts on the subject aren't too clear at this point - So it'll be great to clear up the issue for the iMate / XDA II.
All the best - Have a great weekend.
Andy
OK, made some time to create a batch file to upgrade.
Works only for upgrade from T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL to I-mate 1.53.82.
1. Download the ROM image ruu15283.zip from the site in this posting
2. Unzip the file with Winzip
3. You now get a file called ruu15283wwwe_cdl.exe
3. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
4. Extract the attached file to the same folder
5. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Since I'm out till Sunday, I can't check my mail to respond to problems.
Enjoy!
Can the first person brave enough to try this please confirm success.
IT WORKS!!
Jes - You're a scholar and a gentleman!!
And a *(&(&( good programmer
IT WORKED!
Thanks a million!
Let me know how to send you virtual beers or whatever
(or if you need a hand with anything - Please let me know!)
Cheers
Andy
Nah, I'm not a good programmer, I just know how to write bachfiles and how to combine things to get the disered result.
Thanks has to go to Isme. He knows a lot about the internal working of the XDA II, the ROMS and the bootloader process.
He wrote the great tool used to change the file headers, so you can update your machine with a ROM of a different brand.
He's a good programmer!
If somebody needs a mod to upgrade from another ROM version, please let me know.
And if you want to do something back, please donate to the people who keep this nice forum up and running.
It worked. For those who want to get back onto the official path from unofficial t-mobile this is an automated way to do it. Thanks...Jon
Backing Up XDA2 ROM+CE
I'm a new XDA2 iMate user, want to back up my ROM+CE before I screw things up. I did this on my XDA1 (power + software reset, then press contact button I think). Anyway, I always had my ROM+CE backed up to a 64M SD card ... just in case.
I've searched these forums for such a procedure for XDA2 ... no luck.
What is the process, if any, to backup the XDA2's ROM+CE image to SD card?
Appreciate any help,
Craig
I think it's possible with the xda2dmp tool, but you better ask Itsme, he wrote it.
You can find it on this site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xda-ii.html
PHoto contacts wont work
I have an imate and i just upgraded it with the new rom, but now i have a problem that the photo contacts wont work... Is there a way i can downgrade to an older version of rom. I use to rely alot on the photo contacts.. anyone else have the same problem?? thank you
Installing i-mate ROM after T-Mobile's
Gentlemen ,
I did the same (install T-mobile ROM on an imate ) and I want to install the imate ROM update. I am not sure about the T-mobile ROM , but when I boot it displays the following :
R 1.06.01
G 1337.16
D 1.60.00WWE
Kindly advsie if the above mentioned patch work in my case .
Appreciate you kind advice !
Thanks!
Should work.
Just try it out. If it's not ok, you get country error when you try to upgrade.
Jos
Hi Jos ,
I tried it and it WORKS!!!!!!!!!! You are a brilliant guy !!!
I owe you one!!
My friend wants to install the T-Mobile Update because the windows CE version on the T-mobile ROM is newer than that of the imate. Any magic patches that can be done.
Note -> Please tell me of how can I be of any help to you in return for your support
All the best
If you want to do something back, please donate to this forum to keep it up and running without advertisements or banners (just click Donate Money on top of this page).
This is how to upgrade:
Works only for upgrade from i-mate to T-Mobile 1.60.06 NL.
1. Download the T-Mobile ROM image from http://www.xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/
2. Extract this file with Winzip to a new folder
3. Extract the attached file to the same folder
4. Start the conversion and upgrade by double-clicking convert.bat
Let me know if it works.
Grtz,
Jos
Difference between i-mate 1.52.00WWE ROM and i-mate 1.53.82
Can anybody outline the differences between the 1.52.00 and the 1.53.82 official i-mate ROMs?
I'm trying to ascertain whether I have sufficient incentive to upgrade (given the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality I subscribe to in my old age!).
Sufficient incentive might be;
:arrow: Faster GPRS
:arrow: Improved battery life
:arrow: Improved all-round performance.
Thanks guys.
Codenix
Just upgraded to i-mate from much-loved XDA!

Procedure to upgrade bootloader

Who can explain, the upgrade procedure to substitute Himalaya bootloader with the ones available in .raw files at the wiki ftp server?
Or give a link where it is explained. I didn't succeed to find.
I'm with 1.02. Any advantage or disadvantage for other versions 1.01, 1.03, 1.06.
I read the higher the version, the hardest to downgrade a ROM version. Does someone confirm it?
Thanks
Fernando Correia
hi Fernando,
read first at this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23068
and this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=124909#124909
then if you really want i can post here the exact procedures..
but you need to think a thousand times
just remember
I already said:
in case guys you downgrade your bootloader and its dead please dont post saying
"HELPPPPP .. my device is DEAD i couldnt even go to BOOTLOADER"
instead go to the nearest service center and let them fix it for you
they will do something like this (its for iPAQ 3600 but you will get the idea)
http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/
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that includes also upgrading ..
-toe

Can't downgrade from wm2005

Hi,
I recently put on Buzz's latest wm2005, when I installed it I didnt need to change the operator id or anything like that.
Some of my applications are not working on 2005 and I would like to revert back to 2003se but Im having some difficulties.
Everytime I do the downgrade I am getting country id errors and when I try and figure out my operator id using the device info application the output file is just jibberish..
Can anyone tell me what the operator id would have been set to when I installed buzz's wm2005 or how I can find out what the operator id is on wm2005.
I really need to downgrade!
Thanks,
Dave
Go to this link and look for BUZZ LIGHTYEAR. The file and instructions are there that make country id error a thing of the past, it works flawlessly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...0&postorder=asc&highlight=country+id&start=25
use the "himaupgradeut_noID.exe" instead "HimaUpgradeUt.exe"
jojo
download it here:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=65&Itemid=32
hello cruisin-thru my friend...
do as xda2jojo said :wink: ...but if u still want to know the BUZZMOBILE infos then:
device idH10
operator:O2
laguage:WWE
Thanks for your help, I have successfully downgraded.
Hey JoJo, peace.
I need this himaupgradeut_noID.exe, too but I can't find anywhere an active link :-( help please...

Hermes Downgrading help please

My T mobile branded Vario II fell off my lap yesterday (in its case) Theres not a scratch on it and its only 4months old. Later on i had loads of missed calls and then realised it wont ring or vibrate or play mp3's.
Im currently running one of HTC's Roms, SPL-1.09 is my bootloader and im not sure how to reflash with the original T-mobile rom before i head back to the shop to see about a replacement
I keep getting a invalid vendor id, and from reading posts on the forums i know i need to do something with the cid so i can flash back down to the original rom.But im getting confused between a super cid and a cid? as what ive found below just mentions cid and not super cid.
Is this the file i need? HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a ? i just run the .bat file then install the orginal t mobile rom as normal?
What im basically asking is the above right to ahead with? as i just need some reassurance as if i cant blag one under warranty then ill have to use my insurance which as its my second claim in 6 months has a excess of £60
Yes i have looked on the forums for hours but cant see any info.
Thanks in advance should anyone help
EDIT well ive run the unlocker and supercid'd it but it still wont let me flash with the original t mobile rom?
ERROR:260 Update Error
im getting the above error?
Is all I will say is click on the mrvanx guide in my signature.
Gavin01 said:
My T mobile branded Vario II fell off my lap yesterday (in its case) Theres not a scratch on it and its only 4months old. Later on i had loads of missed calls and then realised it wont ring or vibrate or play mp3's.
Im currently running one of HTC's Roms, SPL-1.09 is my bootloader and im not sure how to reflash with the original T-mobile rom before i head back to the shop to see about a replacement
I keep getting a invalid vendor id, and from reading posts on the forums i know i need to do something with the cid so i can flash back down to the original rom.But im getting confused between a super cid and a cid? as what ive found below just mentions cid and not super cid.
Is this the file i need? HTC_Hermes_SIM_CID_Unlock_v3a ? i just run the .bat file then install the orginal t mobile rom as normal?
What im basically asking is the above right to ahead with? as i just need some reassurance as if i cant blag one under warranty then ill have to use my insurance which as its my second claim in 6 months has a excess of £60
Yes i have looked on the forums for hours but cant see any info.
Thanks in advance should anyone help
EDIT well ive run the unlocker and supercid'd it but it still wont let me flash with the original t mobile rom?
ERROR:260 Update Error
im getting the above error?
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Hi!
if u have aRom in your device i think the link below gona helps
GOOD LUCK
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=26
thanks guys i will try the above. if not i think ill "loose" the phone
Hi Gavin01,
Good luck with the downgrade - I'd be interested to know how it goes. I also have a T-Mobile MDA Vario II, and so far I've put HardSPL 7 and Radio ROM 1.41 onto it. I'm just trying to decide which WM6 ROM I want to try out
Anyway, I have at the back of my mind that I don't really know how to downgrade it in the case of a warranty claim. The MrVanx guide to downgrading WM5 looks ok, but I'd love to know how to put the radio rom back (I guess this would just be the reverse of the upgrade), but then finally taking taking HardSPL off. In fact I'd vote for a guide on it - would write it myself but I have to confess I'm rather a newbie to the world of HTC upgrades....
Cheers,
sparky
I have the same problem
I´d like to downgrade to original softbank settings. But they only accept warranty issues if you have the original cid? , right?
So putting the old rom back on is not my problem, "un-super-cid" it is.
I need help please too
Hello,
please excuse, but i have a question and i will not open a new threat.
I use tytn. I have installed the Radio Version 1.40 and the Black 3.01 Rom. I have used HardSPL and when i go into the bootloader i have Herm200 IPL 1.04 and Herm200 SPL 2.10 OliPro. My question is: it is not possible to go back to wm5 with the installer RUU Hermes 1.18....-Qtek_Ger_Ship. Because in this installer is a Radio Rom. When i will use it, i lost my Radio and i have No GSM. The only way to go back is with MrVanx Hermes downgrade guide. Is this correctness ??
( This is what i think after using the help-function and the wiki )
When this is right, so Please Please, can a specialist please build a litte .exe-File so that i can make a downgrade to my mw5? Sorry, i am not idle, i am not able to to this. And please excuse my english. I will say say thank you very very much for your helping. With the best regards from Berlin say Christian

Downgrade my OS

Hi!
I have a question. I tried many OS for my PocketPC out, but now, I wanted to recover a normal Update and the Update aborts with the sentence, that the installation is not for this PPC.
THe NBF File is too old. What can I do? Would someone like to help me?
That would be genius. Thanks. I have the PPC version of O2 XDA Neo
Read the WIKI!
Maybe you have to unlock the CID

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