Related
Hi all,
Device Update is an 'appstore' type application to automatically download and install from a list of selected applications.
Improvements so far over v1 include:
* Complete backend rewrite.
* Developer level access to update applications.
* Complete application rating system.
* Compressed software catalog means the application loads 450% faster!
* Compressed CAB files mean less time waiting and less data transfer to pay for.
* Integrated application information
* More error trapping than ever before
* Complete integrated web site for ease of use and for developers
* Live updates of download stats on the web site.
* Application reviews on the web site.
* Auto-install applications after hard reset or new ROM install (Requires Premium Membership).
* Install applications to SD Card
* EVEN MORE!
Sign up for a User account
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/users
What is a Standard Account vs a Premium Account?
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/user-premium.pl
Read the list of commonly asked questions (The FAQ):
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/user-faq.pl
A list of supported devices can be found at:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/user-devices.pl
You can track statistics on the Device Update web site:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate
Are you a developer and want your applications listed? Check out:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/dev-account.pl
ROM Cooks, please read this before including DeviceUpdate in your ROM:
http://www.crc.id.au/deviceupdate/cook-howto.pl
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Downloads
Download v2.1.1.1
Changelogs:
Server Side Changes - 15-Jun-2009:
* Added index generation support for unknown devices.
* Added logic to generate indexes via screen resolution if no specific hardware ID is known.
* Fixed issues with device specific software (such as Hermes camera drivers) that caused them not to show in certain situations.
* Optimised SQL queries to lower load (even further) on server.
* Activated v3 of index generation software with the above changes.
v2.1.2.0 Beta released - 13-Jun-2009:
* Available to all Premium Account holders.
* Changed method to detect Hardware Device ID. Should now be a lot less variation with hardware codes.
* Added logic to fall back to screen resolution (and exclude some programs that may cause issues) as a key to select available software instead of giving a "Unsupported Device" error.
* Should have VERY few unsupported devices now.
Server Side Changes - 07-May-2009:
* Added support for HTC Touch Diamond 2.
* Added another hardware code to HTC Raphael.
Server Side Changes - 09-Apr-2009:
* Added beta support for HP iPAQ 200/210/211/212/214 devices. Please test if you have one of these devices.
Server Side Changes - 08-Apr-2009:
* Added support for HTC Trinity (TRIN100) devices. PM me if your Trinity shows "Unsupported Device".
v2.1.1.1 - 07-Apr-2009:
* Rewrote Auto-Install prompting to make integration into ROMs much better. Allows for establishing Wifi/ActiveSync connections for data transfer etc.
Server Side Changes - 13-Mar-2009:
* Added support for the HTC Magician (PM10A). PM me if your Magician shows "Unsupported Device".
Server Side Changes - 12-Mar-2009:
* Added User Interface for voting, autoinstall etc.
* Added Auto-Install logic.
* Added Premium Subscription option ($5AUD per month) for access to auto-install and future features.
v2.1.0.15 - 12-Mar-2009:
* Fixed bug causing Required Updates to not be Required.
* Added facility to auto-install applications after a hard reset or new ROM install.
* Added 'My Devices' option to register device with the new Users Interface web site under Menu -> My Devices
* Added functionality to check membership information from within DeviceUpdate under Menu -> My Devices
* Added option to force auto-install to run under Menu -> My Devices
* Added logic to identify devices even after a hard reset or new ROM install.
* Lots of code optimisation and rewrites.
Server Side Change - 18-Feb-2009:
* Added Sony XP1 aka HTC Kovsky (X1, X1a, X1c, X1i).
* Added another OEM Device ID for the HTC Diamond (HTC Touch Diamond P3490)
Server Side Change - 14-Feb-2009:
* Added more OEM Device IDs for device recognition for HTC Diamond, Raphael, and a number of other devices.
* Added support for HTC Artemis (ARTE10000, ARTE11000, ARTE20000)
* We now recognise over 41 different devices via hardware ID.
v2.0.8.1 - 13-Feb-2009:
* Added support for VGA devices.
Server Side Change - 13-Feb-2009:
* Added backwards compatibility for AppToDate from the main DeviceUpdate administration interface. Allows developers to upload their application and provide an external URL for keeping existing AppToDate users in sync with Device Update users.
* Added support for the following devices:
HTC Blue Angel (QVGA)
HTC Blackstone (WVGA)
HTC Raphael (VGA)
HTC Jade (VGA)
HTC Diamond (VGA)
O2 Atom (QVGA)
HTC Opal (QVGA)
XDA Zest (VGA)
HTC Elf (QVGA)
v2.0.8.0 - 11-Feb-2009:
* Added option to use Shell Installer (allows installing to SD card if cabs allow & workaround of WCELOAD errors)
* Added option to skip data transfer warning at beginning of app.
* Added logic to check if CAB Security policy is enabled, if so only use shell installer (WCELOAD will always fail if this is enabled)
Server Side Change - 10-Feb-2009:
* Added support for HTC Herald (HERA100)
* Added support for developer registration
Server Side Change - 09-Feb-2009:
* Added support for HTC Titan models (TITA100)
* Added support for HTC Polaris models (Polaris, HTC_P3650)
* Added support for HTC Vogue models (VOGU100)
v2.0.7.8 - 08-Feb-2009:
* Added support for Kaiser devices.
* Fixed client sizing issues for VGA devices
v2.0.6.4 - 07-Feb-2009:
* Initial public release of v2.
* Currently supports Hermes only devices.
Installing via SDAutorun
Copy the CAB file to \Storage Card\ on your device.
Add the following to \Storage Card\SDConfig.txt:
Code:
CAB: \Storage Card\DeviceUpdate-v2.1.x.x.cab
If you don't already have a file \Storage Card\SDConfig.txt, create it and use the following:
Code:
LOCK:Enabled
CAB: \Storage Card\DeviceUpdate_v2.1.0.15.cab
LOCK:Disabled
RST: Reset
This will allow you to automatically upgrade to whatever version of DeviceUpdate is the latest and auto-install your applications
Milestones reached
07-May-2009 - Over 375,000 applications served to over 170,000 people!
23-Apr-2009 - Over 320,000 applications served!
07-Apr-2009 - Over 250,000 applications served!
22-Mar-2009 - Over 180,000 applications served to over 68,000 people!
13-Mar-2009 - Served over 50,000 users worldwide.
02-Mar-2009 - Over 100,000 applications served to over 33,000 people!
28-Feb-2009 - Over 90,000 applications served.
24-Feb-2009 - Over 70,000 applications served.
23-Feb-2009 - Served over 20,000 users worldwide.
18-Feb-2009 - Over 40,000 applications served.
18-Feb-2009 - Served over 12,000 users worldwide.
16-Feb-2009 - Over 30,000 applications served.
14-Feb-2009 - Reached 100 applications in the DeviceUpdate database.
14-Feb-2009 - Served over 5,000 users worldwide.
14-Feb-2009 - Over 20,000 applications served.
13-Feb-2009 - Over 1,000 unique downloads of the DeviceUpdate application from this thread.
13-Feb-2009 - Served over 3,000 users worldwide.
12-Feb-2009 - Over 15,000 applications served.
10-Feb-2009 - Over 10,000 applications served to users of v2.x of Device Update.
07-Feb-2009 - Device Update v2 released to the public.
The reference for downloading does not work.
Rimmy66 said:
The reference for downloading does not work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whoops. I forgot to sync the mirrors after adding the download.
It should be good now...
CRC I am running a Titan with WM6.5 and yesterday I used your program with no problems, today it loaded a new version and said "unsupported device". Any way to get back to old version?
Thanks
Jim Murray said:
CRC I am running a Titan with WM6.5 and yesterday I used your program with no problems, today it loaded a new version and said "unsupported device". Any way to get back to old version?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi mate,
Part of what the last upgrade was is to get things ready for full multi-device support. Sadly, part of that is to disable devices that are not proven to be 100% compatible.
I'm slowly going through and adding extra devices such as the Titan, Opel etc... At the moment, I just ask you to be patient until I can complete this task.
The current supported devices include Hermes & Kaiser with more coming soon.
Looks great. Will give it a try and feedback!
great tool. It should ask where to install, disk or device. Other than that issue it is great.
Very Usefull utility. Thanks.
in my opinion this app name 'CRC AppStore'
This is great !!
thanks!
i'm waiting for i780 support
device update is looking good on my hermes but I lost support for the titan :-(.... any chance of adding titan back to supported devices...
list of stuff that doesn't work with titan
button 5 fix
camera support
comm vibe
flashlight
htc connection wizard
htc Home - works but setup for keyboard on hermes so the screen is upside down when you open the keyboard.
In reply to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3291339&postcount=88
Just one minor issue, only one occurence, not reproducible: Somehow the connection to your server must have gotten interrupted when I selected to download and install a program. The error was not caught by your program, but instead after about 60 seconds freeze, the .Net Framework (I assume?) threw an unknown error("no error messages installed...").
Is it just one program that does it, or a few different ones?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess it is not related to just one program. It happend, after chosing Shap's Advanced Config.
My bug report just related to the fact, that the error was not brought up by the program itself. Turning Wifi off and on made everything work again and the app installed on second try.
(My Hermes does not stay reliably connected to the internet, this is not an "Device Update" issue. WiFi stys connected, but DNS or TCP packets will get lost. This instability of internet connectivity has lead to the error reported)
skippyd said:
device update is looking good on my hermes but I lost support for the titan :-(.... any chance of adding titan back to supported devices...
list of stuff that doesn't work with titan
button 5 fix
camera support
comm vibe
flashlight
htc connection wizard
htc Home - works but setup for keyboard on hermes so the screen is upside down when you open the keyboard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Titan support wasn't intentional before - now it will be It also means that when CABs are submitted, the developers can choose which devices to install on. This gives us the ability to have QVGA, VGA and other resolution apps - as well as app specific stuff.
While the narrowed device support seems like a step backwards at the moment, it is actually a huge step forwards - as the only actions now required is backend support for these devices.
And, seeing as you provided a lot of into that I needed, I'll add Titan support in the next hour or so.
Edit: Oh, and are there any other OEM codes for the Titan than TITA100?
Edit 2: And any reason why htc connection wizard doesn't work on the titans?
I've added support for Titans & Polaris devices today.
If people with these devices could test it out and post any applications that don't work on your device, I'll go through and update things.
thought of combining forces with gecko?
or maybe jak portal?
I am pretty sure there are even one or two more of these types of apps that have popped up recently, but can't remember the app or dev names just now.
If ALL of you guys could really combine forces I'm sure we would have an absolutely AMAZING app manager application!
...Looking good...
jim256 said:
thought of combining forces with gecko?
or maybe jak portal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes and no. Device Update came along quite some time ago, but was only developed on the Hermes... v1 of Device Update came out around 5 months ago from memory - maybe longer.
While the apps above sound ok, I have serious concerns about the technical side of how they run things - which is why for the moment I have just improved Device Update. At the moment, the current v2 infrastructure serves up around 400 cabs per hour. Since the v2 release on the 7th of this month, I've already served up nearly 6,500 cabs! This load seems to be unsustainable with some other project similar to Device Update.
I am pretty sure there are even one or two more of these types of apps that have popped up recently, but can't remember the app or dev names just now.
If ALL of you guys could really combine forces I'm sure we would have an absolutely AMAZING app manager application!
...Looking good...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah - there's been a few and I got more and more frustrated at some of the major shortcomings in the newer projects - hence why I sad down for about a month and re-wrote Device Update into what it is now. The good part is that it's a VERY stable and VERY scalable infrastructure now and will work with all Windows Mobile devices once I get around to working out compatibility issues with applications.
This will take a little while as I take the safer approach as to make sure an application won't kill a device. After this is done, I can look at the options for a better UI.
This being said, when re-writing Device Update, I went through over 30 different designs for the UI, and I couldn't find a way to present all the information required in a good way. After the backend settles down, I'll focus a bit more on making things user friendly.
CRCinAU said:
Yes and no. Device Update came along quite some time ago, but was only developed on the Hermes... v1 of Device Update came out around 5 months ago from memory - maybe longer.
While the apps above sound ok, I have serious concerns about the technical side of how they run things - which is why for the moment I have just improved Device Update. At the moment, the current v2 infrastructure serves up around 400 cabs per hour. Since the v2 release on the 7th of this month, I've already served up nearly 6,500 cabs! This load seems to be unsustainable with some other project similar to Device Update.
Yeah - there's been a few and I got more and more frustrated at some of the major shortcomings in the newer projects - hence why I sad down for about a month and re-wrote Device Update into what it is now. The good part is that it's a VERY stable and VERY scalable infrastructure now and will work with all Windows Mobile devices once I get around to working out compatibility issues with applications.
This will take a little while as I take the safer approach as to make sure an application won't kill a device. After this is done, I can look at the options for a better UI.
This being said, when re-writing Device Update, I went through over 30 different designs for the UI, and I couldn't find a way to present all the information required in a good way. After the backend settles down, I'll focus a bit more on making things user friendly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, thanks for the response.
Very understandable, I figured something like that may be the issue.
I will be sure to give yours a try!
Thanks,
Jim.
Very cool.
Ah damn doesn't work for the Fuze.
hi all,
====================================================================================
a new version is now available for android - go to google play
====================================================================================
after a long time where i had so many tips and software solutions from this community it is about time a put something back to it.
i have been looking for an application to allow me record a voice memo and send it to myself as a reminder with a voice clip attached.
found a commercial program that did not do it as i wanted so had decided to do it myself.
MemoMe is a light application that enables you to record your memo when you just got an idea or remembered something you do not want to forget, like when you drive or just do your shopping... it goes to your mail or your secretary mail etc. easy to use and configure. it supports all WM devices and all screens.
MemoMe uses any one of your existing email account so no data is passed on and your personal info is untouched, this is mainly for security reasons so no
one can use your smtp info or expose your user is & password.
as said it is offered as a freeware to all as a tribute to this wonderful comunity.
as per donations etc - is you feel like donating, please think of someone who really needs it like poor children etc or donate to charity.
a nice thank you is much more than i need.
http://download.arkom.co.il/freeware/MemoMe_Freeware.CAB
have fun...
OK, the first official release is now available for download.
change log from the pre - release:
- UI was completely changed.
- many internal engine changes
- sound effects were added
- the send engine was totaly changed and due to security reasons there is no direct SMTP support at all. the only mechanism supported is sending the Memo using the internal outlook engine. any existing account can be used and the configurator shows all available options. in the older version there was a need to provide your SMTP server, username and password - not very good for security...
this way no sensitive data is stored to be a potential risk.
if i will find a way to use a public service or any other option were no info will be stored i will consider.
setup & update procedure:
just download one of the setup packages either EXE or CAB and install it
if you have installed any older version i recommend you uninstall it and delete the folder to make sure nothing is left behind
run the config utility and just follow the few selections and save.
very easy to use and nothing to write a manual for
now you can use the MemoMe app and enjoy !
for any questions or requests or ... just let me know
may you all have a great weekend
=============== 16/09/2009 ================ Version update ==========================
there is an update available for download at the same links above
ChangeLog:
- AutoPilot: it is now possible to set the app to load in auto pilot mode where it does not show all 4 buttons etc. the app loads directly in recording mode where there is one big stop recording button on screen. tapping the stop recording button will automatically send the memo and exit.
naturaly the standard mode is also available - look at the configurator screen...
- SoundCompress: there is an option to dramatically compress the memo file sise (for internet air time saving) a typical 300 KB file will be ~20KB (!!), of course voice quality will be a slightly lower... but realy not too much
- Splash screen time is neerly nothing now on the AutoPilot mode...
- Configurator is automatically loaded if first run or no INI. no need to exit and run configurator...
- internal engine modifications...
- no change in pricing model - this is still the same - free
in spite of huge interest from mobile operators to use it as an embedded application to increase data the application will stay freeware.
will be glad to have your comments (and wish lists)
===================================== 19/12/2009 ================================
a new version is now available for download - 1.5.0
- a major UI change was done and major internal engine
- the audio quality is well kept but can now bw compressed
- you can now select a differentrecording time by just entering your rec time value in seconds
- any device - any OS version - any screen resolution
this is the last and final freeware version as the application will now go to its commercial phase with many more features.
for most of us this basic version is exactly what we need...
=======================Version update to 1.5.1 =============== January 20 2010 ======================
a new version is available from the link above
- time recording bug - fixed
- compression bug fixed
- added indicators for compression mode and time recording / time left
====================== version update to 1.6.0 ================== Jan 23 2010 =======================
new version, answering to most requests
change log:
1. audio engine completly renewed - now normal audio will go as WAV and compressed as OGG
2. in AutoPilot you can pause and resume as much as you like. don't forget to set the option in config...
3. the app can now hide for faster reload - set in config...
4. you can set the subject - allow in config...
5. minor internal fixes
note: if you use soundFX you will get a beep in audio file every time you pause so you can know where you paused
if it is not wanted stop soundfx in config
enjoy...
enjoy !
Help me with Setup
Hi, I am having problems sending to my mailbox I am not sure of the smtp address, could you help with the setup if its not too much trouble, I am using windows live mail........................Thanks for the neat apps
currently the application supports 2 options of sending your Memo:
1 - using your SMTP information where you will have to enter your SMTP server, User & Password and to mark the Authentication if your server requires (most do).
2 - using your AS pocket outlook. if your device is configured to sync your email using pocket outlook (means your outlook can send / receive email) and the default account name is ActiveSync, that option will send the meno using this account. so when you next manually Send/Recv or it performs an automatic Send/Recv according the time intervals you specified.
the nextversion will ofer a different mechanism - either you use your outlook and by this BTW you dont even have to know or provide your SMTP info or the application will directly send using a special set SMTP account I will provide it internally.
i hope by this weekend i will have sometime so i will update the application, in the download server there is a "fresh" version - with fresh user interface that is the final UI from now i will update the functionality only -
- it will allow taking a photo, add a memo to it and send
- it will allow sending to third party as well
and the "wish list" is getting longer and longer as other guys are also sending feedbacks with ideas...
one thing will remain - as much it will be further developped i will keep it free, that's my obligation to this great community that provided me with so many free applications so far
Thanks for the information I will wait for you updated version, btw great work and thanks
you can now go back to the first post - i've updated the post (and app)
Thanks for the update..I didn't notice any changes in the UI, I got the same UI as the previous ver... there were some changes in the configuration.. didn't see any option to take a photo either maybe I downloaded the wrong file?????
oh, i see.
you probably downloaded the temporary version.
the previous version had a simple blue backgroung and the white one with rounded buttons was just added, but that is not your problem
the version available now is the latest one (last night) and is final (before the next one )
as i said the next version will have the camera option and more, it was important to get to a final look and functionality before going to futuristic features.
trus me that the next version will not take years ( it is under design right now but i have my real day job to attend first, this is only a hobby)
keep on and buzz me if you need anything
Thanks a lot, this ver works for me just finishing testing
good, i'm happy.
enjoy it and please send feedbacks on your experience
comeback to see if there is a newer version
send your friends too...
BTW - what device you use ?
very impressed....
tested ..MemoMe ..on my blackstone with standard rom ,working very ..very smooth for me ..!
for me, it is very handy, for reasons, you also set out and more ( if you just want to be a bit lazy, in typing short email ,this is it ! )
thank you
thanks Willcor, really pleased to hear that.
it did not come out of being lazy it came out of a real need - say you are driving or just walking, you just remembered something or were told something you do not want to forget... i operate it over a voice command so when i drive i just call the app by its name - record and send...
next will come as said a photo attachment so you will be able to take a pic add comment and send.
next will come third party reciever...
and i hope to add a voice recognition to so you can dictate...
have fun
ZeevG said:
good, i'm happy.
enjoy it and please send feedbacks on your experience
comeback to see if there is a newer version
send your friends too...
BTW - what device you use ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am using a Blackstone
Mr.Naresh
Dear ZeevG,
NoteMe Working nice.
One query , if i record the note and exit without sending, will the note save anywere or it deleted automaticly ? and if not deleted can i listen and send it in next time login.
Please reply.
Regds
Naresh ( India )
ZeevG said:
hi all,
after a long time where i had so many tips and software solutions from this community it is about time a put something back to it.
i have been looking for an application to allow me record a voice memo and send it to myself as a reminder with a voice clip attached.
found a commercial program that did not do it as i wanted so had decided to do it myself.
MemoMe is a light application that enables you to record your memo when you just got an idea or remembered something you do not want to forget, like when you drive or just do your shopping... it goes to your mail or your secretary mail etc. easy to use and configure. it supports all WM devices and all screens.
you can use your SMTP direct sens or use your mobile outlook to send it for you (mainly for security reasons nor to expose smtp user and password if you are concerned). as said it is offered as a freeware to all as a tribute to this wonderful comunity.
as per donations etc - is you feel like donating, please think of someone who really needs it like poor children etc or donate to charity.
a nice thank you is much more than i need.
there is a CAB download link and EXE link for those who prefare.
http://cc4biz.com/Downloads/MemoMe_Setup.exe
http://cc4biz.com/Downloads/MemoMe.CAB
have fun...
OK, the first official release is now available for download.
change log from the pre - release:
- UI was completely changed.
- many internal engine changes
- sound effects were added
- the send engine was totaly changed and due to security reasons there is no direct SMTP support at all. the only mechanism supported is sending the Memo using the internal outlook engine. any existing account can be used and the configurator shows all available options. in the older version there was a need to provide your SMTP server, username and password - not very good for security...
this way no sensitive data is stored to be a potential risk.
if i will find a way to use a public service or any other option were no info will be stored i will consider.
setup & update procedure:
just download one of the setup packages either EXE or CAB and install it
if you have installed any older version i recommend you uninstall it and delete the folder to make sure nothing is left behind
run the config utility and just follow the few selections and save.
very easy to use and nothing to write a manual for
now you can use the MemoMe app and enjoy !
for any questions or requests or ... just let me know
may you all have a great weekend
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
of course - if you record and not send or the sending failed the memo is still stored in memory - usually the file is in the program folder so easy to find.
next time you run the app you can listen to the record and send
if you try to record when there is an unsent memo you will get a worning and then can choose to overwrite or go back...
Using it on my touch diamond2, it works like a charm, thanks!
just two simple questions:
1) does it sync with outlook?
2) can the voice memos be attached as tasks?
thanks a lot for your fine work!
two simple answers:
1) if you meant pocket outlook - the answer is yes - it uses outlook to post your email to yourself. if you meant pc outlook - no need to as your pocket outlook should sync to your desktop. MemoMe then sync to pocket
2)no. the voice memo goes as an attached file via email to your inbox, that's what it says in first place.
Nice software.
But
When Sound Effects are off it still plays some sound when it starts, buttons pressed etc.
If you wait until max recording time in pilot mode it hangs. It draws blue line till screen end. You press hand button. Button become a clock. It again draws blue line till screen and hangs.
oops, i will check it out ASAP
anyways there's a new version in the oven just about to be ready
thanks any how for your comment
That is great - I'll wait for new version
Could you implement pause button? So one could start recording, press pause and then continue recording to the same file?
WMDreamRemote (WMDR) - with streaming
UPDATE (22/04/2012): No more deadlines. The reason is that I am busy with other projects. I might implement other features in future. You can download from my web-site, http://www.tillekesoft.com. There you can find as usual two versions. One version is for devices using 320x240 but it should work fine also with devices having a resolution of 640x480. For all other resolutions, please use the other one. For existing users, you just need to replace the old executable with the new one.
06/10/2010 - I have attached a "step-by-step"-guide for setting up WMDR - in particular what regards streaming (it is in English but you can use Google Translation-tools to translate it to another language). Hopefully, this will make it easier for new users to get WMDR working.
IMPORTANT (22/06/2010) - I just tested the new version of VLC no. 1.1.0 and it seems like WMDR is not compatibile with the latest version of VLC. So if you want to use WMDR, please ensure to use VLC 1.0.5 or earlier until I have resolved this issue.
Change-log: nothing so I am leaving old change-log here below:
This version is more like a Service-Release fixing some bugs and introducing few new features:
-fixed issue when using WMDR with Enigma2 outside your LocalLAN where WMDR passed on a DynDNS-address to the Dreambox instead of LocalIP-address which is the correct way. Thanks to mkbm for finding this bug.
-fixed streaming-issue in Enigma2 when changing between channels located on different transpoders would cause problems. Thanks to mkbm for explaining this.
-improved error-handling (clearer messages). Still to be improved further.
-possibility to kill stream when exiting WMDR
-other minor bug-fixes
-some optimization
-added a program-icon (it's very basic - if you can come up with a better-looking icon, please do so and post it here in the thread)
-fixed issue with DM8000
To see WMDR in action (using a pre-release of Beta 0.7), watch this video posted by XDA-user ajocius on YouTube:
Background: After on-going discussions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616353 regarding an application to control remotely the Dreambox, I decided to write an application to accomplish this request.
In above thread, a very simple and crude beta-application was posted. Now, the application has evolved further and therefore I reckoned it was more appropriate to open a new thread in this area which is meant for Window Mobile applications.
Extra Information: The Dreambox is a series of Linux-powered DVB satellite, terrestrial and cable digital television receivers (set-top box), produced by German multimedia vendor Dream Multimedia. It's "kind of" of open-source which has led many "teams" to develop so called "images" for this receiver as an alternative to the original one furnished by Dream Multimedia. In addition, many other hardware manufactures have produced their own receivers (some of them are actually clones while others are not) using the same concept of the Dreambox i.e. Linux-powered. The Dreambox has evolved during the years and many models are present on the market. The first ones are/were using a firmware called "Enigma" but, more or less, with the introduction of High Definition TV, a new firmware was released, namely "Enigma2". One of the "revolutionary" features of the Dreambox was that you can connect it to your local network and this opened up a whole new word compared to ordinary satellite-receivers. To get further information, just google for Dreambox or look it up at Wikipedia.
Background for the application: You can read the original thread mentioned above to get an idea why people wanted an application like the one I am releasing. In a few words: since you can access the Dreambox (or any other satellite-receiver based on Enigma or Enigma2) through your local network or through Internet, there are many things you can do remotely (at work for instance) such as handling timer-events, read EPG etc. The ideal way of doing it, especially if you don't have access to a PC, is to use a handheld device. It was brought to our attention, that there are plenty of applications to do what mentioned above already available for download on the Appstore for iPhone.
for instance:
http://appspace.com/apps/view/38502/idreamremote/
http://appspace.com/apps/view/40338/dreamon/
So, it was suggested to write a similar application for Windows Mobile. And here it is, still in beta although with quite a lot of features implemented, even Streaming-support.
Current Features:
-Streaming
-Remote Control
-Bouquets-/Channels-lists from where you can:
1) change channel
2) view EPG
3) set timers
-Controlling the receiver (Shutdown, Reboot etc)
-Supports set-up of multiple profiles (e.g. At work, home, bedroom)
-Supports set-up of multiple streaming-profiles (Local LAN, WLAN, mobile)
Known issues:
-is not compatible yet with old WebIf (1st generation) of Enigma2
-there might be some problems with certain characters not appearing correctly (please report if you have this problem)
-in 320x240 version when setting up Enigma-profiles, you might need to click twice in the various textboxes.
Features to implement in upcoming versions (not necessarily in this order):
- SMS (Send shortmessages to the TV-Screen)
- improve error handling further
- other ideas/stuff
- user-suggestions (your feedback for improvements)
- re-design the remote-control using png-images instead of jpg which should make the application a bit smaller (and require less memory)
- resolving above mentioned issues
- other bug-fixes
- support for other receivers - requests I have received are for D-box2 and IPBox HD (non Enigma)
- cosmetic issues
- Https (SSL) support. (tested and working but needs a specific hotfix-version of CF.NET (published by Microsoft) due to a bug in CF.NET)
Requirements:
-Compact Net Framework (2.0 should be sufficient)
-an Enigma-based receiver such as the Dreambox, IPBox etc..
-for streaming, please see second post below
Installation:
Note: I have not made any CAB-file.
Note2: If you want to keep your old settings and streaming-profiles, you may do so. Just replace the old WMDreamRemote.exe with the new one.
1) download the zip-file attached to this post and extract the files on your computer.
2) Copy the files into a directory of your choice on your device (internal or
storage). The files must be in the same directory.
3) Run WMDreamRemote.exe. The first time, you will get a message
saying "No connection....".
4) Choose Preferences/Profiles from the main-screen and ADD a new
profile inserting your data. Put the flag on default for the profile you use the most.
5) Then click Save Profile.
6) Go ahead if you wish to add other profiles.
7) You may delete my dummy-profile "home" (only after having added your own though) using
the Del-button. NOTE: It's important that there is always one profile present (with Default selected)
otherwise there might be unexpected errors
8) On the main-screen, you can now use the remote-control by selecting its button
9) You may also see a bouquet/channel list by clicking on its button. However, the first time the list will be empty. Therefore,
10). Go back to Preferences/Profiles and select the profile you want to use. Now select the
button named "Create Bouquets for this profile". This will take a minute or two. It will download
your bouquets and channels from your Dreambox. Do the same for each Profile you create.
11) Now you can scroll your bouquets ad channels.
12) Set up streaming-profiles (3 dummy profiles are provided for Local-LAN, WLAN and mobile) - see second post for more information
There might be some unhandled error-messages occasionally. They are mostly due to connection-problems. Just click on continue and retry unless you have indeed a permanent error with your connection.
Please test it and let me have your error-reports, feedback and suggestions for improvements. Please also indicate which device, Dreambox (or similar receiver) you are using and which image.
I must also express my sincerest thanks to XDA-user ajocius for:
-giving me access to Enigma2,
-his superb beta-testing,
-sharing his knowledge about streaming
-and of course for the great video he posted on YouTube (see above).
I have also attached some screenshots.
PS: ANDROID - Just a note to tell you that I posted here on XDA an Android-application for watching your Dreambox in streaming (LocalLAN and 3G). I called the application AndroidDreamer and you can find the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861145
If you want to test and discuss AndroidDreamer, head over to the thread. Please keep this thread for WMDR.
PS2: WINDOWS - I have published a Windows-version (WinDreamRemote or simply WinDR). You can find it on my web-site: http://www.tillekesoft.com
For discussions regarding WinDR, please use the thread mentioned on my web-site. This thread here at XDA is for WMDR - mobile version. Please respect this.
This is it for the time being.
STREAMING
Streaming works great for me, especially at home (in my Local LAN) but also at work (using WIFI) and even at the supermarket using a mobile-connection (3G) although the quality degrades.
For you, I don't know - Streaming may work, may work so and so or may not work at all.
It depends on a lot of factors:
-For Local-LAN: your WIFI set-up at home (11g, 54g etc)
-For WLAN or mobile: upload/download speed of your Broadband (normally upload-speeds are slower than download-speeds (ADSL)
-Your device
-Your computer acting as VLC-server
-not finding the right configuration in stream-profiles settings
-etc
What you need:
1) VLC (Videolan). Just Google for it and install it on your computer which will act as the VLC-server. I have only tested streaming using VLC running on Windows but it should work on VLC-servers using Linux and MAC as well. If it doesn't, please let me know. I have only tested version 1.0.5 of VLC so I am unable to say if previous versions will work.
UPDATE (22/06/2010) - I just tested the new version of VLC no. 1.1.0 and it seems like WinDR is not compatibile with the latest version of VLC. So if you want to use WinDR, please ensure to use VLC 1.0.5 or earlier until I have resolved this issue.
2) TCPMP (free and which you can find here on XDA) or Coreplayer (not free). Make sure that ASX-files are opened by the program you installed (look in the programs' settings for file-association). Some say that TCPMP is faster to load the stream (5-6 seconds in my Local-LAN) than Coreplayer. On the other hand, some say that Coreplayer is more fluid. The choice is yours.
3) A rather modern and fast device. It might work with slower devices as well but you may have to play a lot with your VLC-configuration (bitrate etc) before you get it to work
4) and of course WMDR
How to set up everything:
1) install VLC on your computer which will act as the VLC (streaming) -server. Then under the menu, select "View" in the English version (not sure since I have it in Italian) and then select "Add Interface" and finally you select "Add Telnet-interface". If you haven't changed anything, the default password for Telnet is admin and the port in use is 4212. That's it. VLC must be running to get streaming working. There are options to install VLC as a Windows Service or you can create a bat-file to be executed upon launch of your VLC-server. I guess similar options are availabe on Linux and MAC as well.
2) if you are going to use streaming outside your Local-LAN, you must ensure that you have set up port-forwarding correctly in your router. You must ensure that the WebIf can be accessed. You must ensure also that port 4212 (for Telnet) is opened and forwarded to the VLC-server. The same goes also for the streaming-port on the VLC-server which TCPMP/Coreplayer needs to access to receive the stream. So, basically you need to set up port-forwarding for one port for accessing the WebIf of your Dreambox and two ports for accessing your VLC-server.
3) A typical VLC-command to get streaming going is as follows:
Code:
vlc.exe" -vvv [url]http://192.168.1.130:31339/0,0025,0384,0385,0295[/url] --sout #transcode{vcodec=MP4V,vb=384,scale=0,5,acodec=mp3,ab=64,channels=1,deinterlace}:Duplicate{dst=std{access=HTTP,mux=ASF,dst=192.168.1.12:8085}}
Here are some explanations:
- the part "vlc.exe" is handled by WMDR using Telnet. You don't need to anything except for filling in information regarding the IP-address of your VLC-server, its password and which port to use.
- the part
Code:
"http://192.168.1.130:31339/0,0025,0384,0385,0295"
is your dreambox-ip, the port used for streaming and some channel-parameters. These parameters are handled automatically by WMDR and do not require your attention
- the part
Code:
"#transcode{vcodec=MP4V,vb=384,scale=0,5,acodec=mp3,ab=64,channels=1,deinterlace}:Duplicate{dst=std{access=HTTP,mux=ASF,dst="
is the one you have to insert in WMDR and which you need to experiment with to get the best picture/quality/fluidity according to your connection-speed. WMDR is pre-installed with 3 examples which are working on my HD2, my WIFI (using 54g) and my ADSL with an upload speed of 512kb. You can use those as an example and then modify them according to your needs.
- the part "192.168.1.12:8085" is the IP of your VLC-server and the port which TCPMP/Coreplayer should connect to in order to get the stream. You fill in this information in the stream-profiles.
With this information, you can set up your streaming-profiles in WMDR. In the streaming-profiles, you will find an additional setting called "VLC Sleep Delay". You can leave it at 200ms as its default-value. This parameter is used by WMDR when "talking to" VLC via Telnet. If the connection is very slow, you can increase this value but normally, even on Mobile-connections, the value of 200ms is OK.
Above information should get you going.
If you have problems with streaming, look at the points mentioned above since it is unlikely due to WMDR itself and that I can do anything to resolve your problems.
Good luck!
TIPS AND TRICKS:
-To make TCPMP open up automatically in full screen mode, you can do the following registry-edit:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\TCPMP\PLAY
DWORD 123
Change value from 0 to 1
-For associating the file-extension ASX with TCPMP, do as follows: In TCPMP it is under:
Options -> Settings (you need to scroll down to see that option) - > Click button "Select Page" - > File Associacions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
-As far as I have understood, TCPMP has been discontinued but there are some people updating it from time to time. If you have problems viewing the stream, it may (perhaps) be because you are using an old version of TCPMP. Here are two links to TCPMP which I have found working on my HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5657963&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5685536&postcount=1
TROUBLESHOOTING
- If you get errors in TCPMP (unknown file format, crashes) or if you don't see anything at all, you can try the following to trace where the error originates:
Select Stream in WMDR and if you get an error message from TCPMP, just disregard the error and put your device on the table or wherever. Don't click on anything. Don't kill the stream. Now, in the folder of WMDR on the device, you should find a file called WMDR.asx. Copy this file to your desktop (on a PC). Go to your PC and right-click on WMDR.asx and choose "open with" and select VLC (it will open another session of VLC). If you now can see the stream from your Dreambox on your computer-screen, then it means that WMDR comunicates correctly with VLC and most likely there is a problem with TCPMP/Coreplayer or because the file is too large/complex to be seen on the device. If you don't see anything, then probably there is a communication-problem between WMDR and VLC. Check IP-address, Port and Password of VLC.
- Make sure that streaming actually works between your Dreambox and VLC (without using WMDR) and that you can watch the streams on your computer. You can test this by using the web-interface of your Dreambox or you can search internet for instructions. If you have problems (can't see anything at all, bad quality, buffering-problems etc), then the problem itself lies with the source and there is no way streaming will work in a satisfying way. For instance, it has been reported that cheap (clones of) DM500 might have problems with streaming.
is this like a remote control app for any settop boxes and tv's that uses ir port or is it limited to the Dreambox?
Sorry - it's not using an ir port.
The application controls the receiver through the receiver's web-interface or through telnet.
However, the application could probably be used with (and modified to support) other types of receivers as long as there is a way to communicate with the receiver via local network, wifi, data-connections or Internet. If anyone is interested, please let me know.
trickbiker121 said:
is this like a remote control app for any setop boxes and tv's that uses ir port or is it limited to the Dreambox?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tilleke said:
Sorry - it's not using an ir port.
The application controls the receiver through the receiver's web-interface or through telnet.
However, the application could probably be used with (and modified to support) other types of receivers as long as there is a way to communicate with the receiver via local network, wifi, data-connections or Internet. If anyone is interested, please let me know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry this isnt the app that i thought it was sorry to bother you
Hi Tilleke
Very nice looking release. I'm really happy with it!
i have tested it and here are my results:
Main screen > remote controle > page 2 > the numbers are not working here.
Main screen > preferences > Create bouguets > This option crashed my dreambox with a blue screen like windows always do...
Remember this is NOT a comment, this is only to help you with this great app!
Great Job, keep going... and i will be waiting till next release.
Thanks for testing and posting your results.
Can you please let me know which receiver you have and which image you are running. And on which device did you test it?
Will check this better.
citychannel said:
Main screen > remote controle > page 2 > the numbers are not working here..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When creating the bouquets, did you follow the procedure written in the first post? I am saying this since that part is not fool-proof yet. Did you reach the point when a message appears indicating "Update ready" or did it crash before. BTW: I have never seen a crashed dreambox with a blue screen I'd love to able to reproduce that error
citychannel said:
Main screen > preferences > Create bouguets > This option crashed my dreambox with a blue screen like windows always do.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks!!
citychannel said:
Remember this is NOT a comment, this is only to help you with this great app!
Great Job, keep going... and i will be waiting till next release.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi there
1) I have a dreambox 7025 with enigma on it
2) i didn't saw ' update ready' the DM crashed 4 seonds after i pressed the 'Create Bouquets for this profile'
A new 'bug' i found is the time out bug. This error appears randomly after zapping between channels or using the volume buttons.
Good luck and thanks!
thanks for your report.
1) OK, you've got DM7025 and running Enigma(1). Are you using the original image or have you flashed another image such as Gemini, Nabilo...If yes, which one?
2) Can you access the WebIf of the DM7025 using your local network and using a normal web-browser? In your browser, you should use:
Code:
http://ip-address of DM7025:port
it should then ask you for a user-name and password, normally root and dreambox.
example:
Code:
http://192.168.0.83:8888
If you are using the standard port (80), it could also be:
Code:
http://192.168.0.83
When you are connected to the WebIf and clicking on ZAP, can you see your bouquets and channels?
3) The time-out bug: What message do you get. Can you please transcribe it? Does this happen when you are connected using WIFI or when you are connected using the data-connection of your phone-provider?
4) what device are you using?
Sorry, but I need above information otherwise I really don't see how to track down the errors you mentioned since I can't reproduce them on my system/device.
PS: I confirm that the numbers on the 2nd screen don't work. I forgot to enable a few lines in my code. Will be corrected in next version. Thanks for finding out.
citychannel said:
Hi there
1) I have a dreambox 7025 with enigma on it
2) i didn't saw ' update ready' the DM crashed 4 seonds after i pressed the 'Create Bouquets for this profile'
A new 'bug' i found is the time out bug. This error appears randomly after zapping between channels or using the volume buttons.
Good luck and thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, working on my hd2 with dreambox 7000 S (gemini 4.6).
But one issue: The programm can´t display the german letters ä, ö and ü (in programm-list and bouquets)
Glad it works.
Thanks for reporting the problem with the German letters. This probably means it would be a problem with other characters as well. I will check this issue and see if I can correct it in next release.
Bib_x said:
Hi, working on my hd2 with dreambox 7000 S (gemini 4.6).
But one issue: The programm can´t display the german letters ä, ö and ü (in programm-list and bouquets)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you add support for modacos´s apptodate?
http://www.modaco.com/category/332/apptodate/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327990
Hi Tilleke,
1) Im running Enigma with Gemini on it
2) Yes i’m using Webif and i can zap normally without lag or error (192.168.1.12), so port 80
3) I am using a WIFI connection and after 2 or 3 times pressing downwards in bouquets it comes with this error:
An error occurred on sub_modcommon_executeurl
Response code -1
Timeout
Continue?
4) i am using a HTC TD2 with WM6,1 pro
Thanks in advance
The num pad on second screen isn´t working. Only the buttons on bottom (tv, radio, text, help) are working.
Thx for the suggestion. I'll see what can I do.
Bib_x said:
Can you add support for modacos´s apptodate?
http://www.modaco.com/category/332/apptodate/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327990
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. Already reported by citychannel. See first post under known issues.
Bib_x said:
The num pad on second screen isn´t working. Only the buttons on bottom (tv, radio, text, help) are working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thx for the information. This will facilitate tracking down the error and how to resolve it.
citychannel said:
Hi Tilleke,
1) Im running Enigma with Gemini on it
2) Yes i’m using Webif and i can zap normally without lag or error (192.168.1.12), so port 80
3) I am using a WIFI connection and after 2 or 3 times pressing downwards in bouquets it comes with this error:
An error occurred on sub_modcommon_executeurl
Response code -1
Timeout
Continue?
4) i am using a HTC TD2 with WM6,1 pro
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your work
im a db fanatic and currently working on e2 image let me know if you need any help.
One small request:
Would be possible in future release to add a DyNdnS address facility ?
It already works...
I have a profile called "away" which I use to set timer-events when I am not at home. Set up a new profile and in the IP-address-field, just write your DynDNS-address and in the Port-field the port you are using.
You might, of course, need to enable portforwarding in your router-settings.
Hope this helps.
^^MeX^^ said:
Thanks for your work
im a db fanatic and currently working on e2 image let me know if you need any help.
One small request:
Would be possible in future release to add a DyNdnS address facility ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A little bit offtopic:
Do you know which ports i have to forward in my router if i want to stream my dreambox-tv-program over internet with vlc?
Streaming in LAN works well, but i want to watch TV outside my home, too.
Hello XDA-Developers!
I had an idea this morning.
Current Transfer Tech:
Bluetooth - Requires the user of both devices to enable their bluetooth devices, then they have to go about pairing the devices to allow file tansfer (this is not always the case though). then the, shall we call him "sender" has to select a file and attempt to bluetooth the file to the, shall we say "reciever", who in turn has to accept the data and then the transfer starts.
Wifi - not used very often but files can be transferred through an app or through an ftp server etc from one device to another. this however requires a little, if not more, skill to complete and can be fustrating looking for ip addresses etc.
NFC - this is an emerging technology that is being implemented in more and more devices such as the Galaxy Nexus. This is a very efficient and fast way to transfer data from one NFC enabled device to another NFC enabled device, however like most of the android community, my phone does not have this capability.
My Idea:
This is just an idea and you may say what you like about it but i thought i would write it down here, the first place that came into my mind where i thought that someone could take this idea further.
Now my friend uses a blackberry, and i know that that word is almost taboo on this forum but hear me out. He uses his blackberry for a service called BBM (Blackberry Messenger), i am sure you are all familiar, and to add a friend of his so that he can contact them using the service, he simply uses his blackberrys camera to scan a 2D Barcode on his friends device and all his BBM Pin and other data is transfered through the phones camera so that they can communicate on the service.
I though that this could be used more on android devices. This could be used to transfer small files from one device to another such as contact information, websites (already a reality), even larger files such as word documents and other reletavely small documents. Now i know that these files cannot be displayed on a single 2D barcode but maybe they can be send using not one barode but a series, the barcodes could be in an animation on the device screen, showing one barcode after another all and the "reciever" could simply hold his device's camera over the animation and it could read the series of barcodes and then compile all of the data to create a single document.
Now i realise that this could be a silly idea as the ammount of data that can be transferred through a 2D barcode is not huge, al lot of barcodes would be needed to transfer a larger file than someones contact details.
Let me know what you think, and you are free to do what you want with my idea, i wont hold it against you
hazzahex
Hello
I know it's a little late (only 3 years lol), but I just wanted you to know that I've implemented a system similar to the one you describe
It was my college's final project
hazzahex said:
Hello XDA-Developers!
I had an idea this morning.
Current Transfer Tech:
Bluetooth - Requires the user of both devices to enable their bluetooth devices, then they have to go about pairing the devices to allow file tansfer (this is not always the case though). then the, shall we call him "sender" has to select a file and attempt to bluetooth the file to the, shall we say "reciever", who in turn has to accept the data and then the transfer starts.
Wifi - not used very often but files can be transferred through an app or through an ftp server etc from one device to another. this however requires a little, if not more, skill to complete and can be fustrating looking for ip addresses etc.
NFC - this is an emerging technology that is being implemented in more and more devices such as the Galaxy Nexus. This is a very efficient and fast way to transfer data from one NFC enabled device to another NFC enabled device, however like most of the android community, my phone does not have this capability.
My Idea:
This is just an idea and you may say what you like about it but i thought i would write it down here, the first place that came into my mind where i thought that someone could take this idea further.
Now my friend uses a blackberry, and i know that that word is almost taboo on this forum but hear me out. He uses his blackberry for a service called BBM (Blackberry Messenger), i am sure you are all familiar, and to add a friend of his so that he can contact them using the service, he simply uses his blackberrys camera to scan a 2D Barcode on his friends device and all his BBM Pin and other data is transfered through the phones camera so that they can communicate on the service.
I though that this could be used more on android devices. This could be used to transfer small files from one device to another such as contact information, websites (already a reality), even larger files such as word documents and other reletavely small documents. Now i know that these files cannot be displayed on a single 2D barcode but maybe they can be send using not one barode but a series, the barcodes could be in an animation on the device screen, showing one barcode after another all and the "reciever" could simply hold his device's camera over the animation and it could read the series of barcodes and then compile all of the data to create a single document.
Now i realise that this could be a silly idea as the ammount of data that can be transferred through a 2D barcode is not huge, al lot of barcodes would be needed to transfer a larger file than someones contact details.
Let me know what you think, and you are free to do what you want with my idea, i wont hold it against you
hazzahex
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a generic tablet which has Android 4.0.3 stock-installed. I can use the 3G feature without a problem; but when it comes to make voice calls; here's what happens:
1- eXdialer: When the calling button is pressed, nothing happens but the screen refreshes only.
2- DialOne: Prints out the warning on the thread subject: "Telephony feature is unavailable on this device"
The producer company claims that Xphone dialer works on this device; but it looks like some hardware-lock or similar?
Since the mentioned software is not free, I could not test if it works.
Hint: The devices are imported to our country as "it has no telephony feature" on the formal papers, just because of the higher taxes on telephony enabled devices. Previous products of the same company were similarly software-locked and they soon released a new rom that enabled the telephony feature. Now there is no any modified rom for this device.
Any ideas are welcome.
Waiting for somebody to say "xda-dev forum is not a right place for you, ugly duckling"; after all.
To put it in another way, Samsung Galaxy Camera also don't have the Telephony feature even if it does have 3G. So its pretty much they've removed the standard dialer app and the resources/lib associated with it. But by installing the missing things, it could be do-able though, I guess.
That is what I also think; but the damn thing I don't know is: HOW?