I have several Nandroid backups on my Eris, Is there a way to view what each one contains as far as Rom version? I would like to delete the ones I no longer use. Is it possible to delete certain backups?
paulj6567 said:
I have several Nandroid backups on my Eris, Is there a way to view what each one contains as far as Rom version? I would like to delete the ones I no longer use. Is it possible to delete certain backups?
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There are ways to view the contents of the .img files contained in a Nandroid BU, but if you are running a Win machine it may be more work than it is worth.
If you connect your phone to your PC you can move the 'unwanted' Nandroids from your sdcard to your PC thus freeing the space on the card. The file dates of the Nandroids should help you sort out which you want. Hope this is helpful
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paulj6567 said:
I have several Nandroid backups on my Eris, Is there a way to view what each one contains as far as Rom version? I would like to delete the ones I no longer use. Is it possible to delete certain backups?
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Rename them immediately after creation if you want to remember what they are. Use a file manager on the immediately successive boot of the regular OS. Leave the date & timestamp intact and insert the name and version of the ROM using only letters, digits, underscores and dashes.
The default naming scheme of the backup folders are BDS-YYYYMMDD-HHMM. For example, you might rename BDS-20100827-1912 to be BDS-KaosFroyo_V29-20100827-1912. That way you can easily identify what a specific backup is without much trouble, and also tell which is most recent if you have multiple backups of a single rom.
If you have forgotten what they are the easiest way to figure out what they are is to restore them to the phone.
And, yes of course, it is possible to delete individual backup folders using a file manager.
Thank You very much.
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
emigre said:
Hi everyone,
I'm pretty confused of the difference between a nandroid backup and Titanium backup.
My understanding is:
nandroid = kind of a restore point for the phone with all system, apps and user data.
Titanium backup = same thing, but with options to choose what to back up.
So why do you need 2 of the same thing if they both perform exactly the same thing? Eventually, we'll probably be using the backup to restore those datas in case we want to flash new ROMs.
Am I missing something here?
Thank you for the info!
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You don't need two of the same thing. I haven't used titanium but nandroid is a, if you will, what-you-see-is-what-you-get backup....what I mean by this is it will back up your phone in the exact state it is...you can't choose to exclude this or that, etc. I prefer mybackup pro because the one time I used titanium I couldn't figure out what to do cuz the GUI was so scrub. That's just me tho.
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I think the main difference is that nandroid will restore everything back the way it was through recovery. With Titanium Backup, you can backup your apps+data and restore them if you flash a new ROM. So like if you upgrade to the latest version of CM6 or Liberated, you can carry your apps over. If you restore the nandroid, it will restore the old ROM too.
Thanks for the response guys.
@blindfusion: I think you just pointed out the main difference there. I didn't think of it that way, the old ROM would also be flashed!
@zervic: Now I think I'll need to get my hands on a backup app. Will check out backup Pro!
Thanks again!
under nandroid/advanced restore, there's an option to restore data. not sure how it differs from titanium. i think titanium let's you pick the apps to back up. nandroid just backs up everything.
So does nandroid also give us the option to restore data (ie. Saved apps, datas, etc) under advanced without flashing the old ROM back in?
For example if i were to flash a newer ROM (FR007 for instance), then i'd be able to have access and restore ALL the backed up data in nandroid? And have a newer version of the OS?
Am i missing something here? I guess i just want to keep my aria light and avoid installing apps i absoloutely do not need. To keep it zippy and maintain precious internal memory.
Thanks again everyone!
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that's how i've restored apps/data after updating rom.
Thanks for the confirmation Darren!
Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
No titanium backs up app and their data only.nandroid is a full system image.
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androidlover123 said:
Just to confirm that means that if I use titanium backup, it can backup the exact same things as Nandroid backup but you can use it for your new ROM?
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Always make both before flashing a new ROM. If everything goes according to plan, run Titanium to restore all your apps into the new ROM. If something goes wrong, you can use Nandroid to restore your phone to pre-flash state.
Also, you should copy the Nandroid file to your computer. If your phone is ever lost or stolen and you get a new one, you can restore it to your old phone's image.
NANDroid backup is a complete image of your phone: the OS, apps, data, everything. So if you screw up your phone, like making it unbootable, or accidentally wiping it clean, you can restore the image and everything will be back to the way it was when you did the backup.
Titanium Backup is an app in your OS that backs up other apps, their data, and some system data / user settings. It's usually used, for example, for restoring apps and their data after a clean install, where you've wiped everything clean.
The two options are fundamentally different, but do have some overlap.
I've never got nandroid backup to work for me personally. Always comes up, "backup not found".
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glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
silentsigma said:
glad i read this thread. it clear up a lot of questions i have.
the only other question i want to ask is what is difference between ClockWorkMod and Nandroid backup?
I heard CWM is an Nandroid backup so does this mean Nandroid backup is a general term for system back up ? or is it an actual program?
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You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
thanks. that answer all of my backup questions.
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Theonew said:
You heard wrong about ClockworkMod. ClockworkMod is a recovery. Nandroid backup is not an actual program, but a backup of your entire system which can be done through ClockworkMod (it's an option).
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Sorry still unclear for me, so if i have CWM i will go to recovery and there i can performe the backup right?
that copies the nandroid to my Sd card? and that image is flasheable image? is that correct? sorry if any of those is a stupid question :S
Edit: Nevermind, i found a guide here that is good for newbies like me, but thanks anyway
Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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Sorry for necro'ing this thread, but at least it's better than making a new one!
From what I've read in this thread, I understand a bit better about the difference.
I've also read that it's important to save nandroid back up on PC in case you lose your phone.
Therein lies my next 2 questions.
1. If I want to use a nandroid backup on the replacement, it should be exactly the same phone, otherwise there might be a problem with the compatibility of the ROM stored in the nandroid and the phone. Right?
2. If I want to use a titanium backup on the replacement, I can use it on any phone, except I should not restore the SYSTEM apps. Right?
If (2) is correct, then we should also keep a titanium backup on the PC?
Part of my reason is also, I plan to switch from Desire HD to SGS3 and I hope to keep both pretty similar with slightly different interface. I plan to root my SGS3 and use titanium to restore some things from my DHD to SGS3. Using a nandroid on the new SGS3 will be a FATAL mistake right?
I know this is not a DHD forum, but the technicalities are the same, so I hope it's no offense asking these questions here!
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Oops forgot to add!
I'm using 4ext instead of CWM. In a brief reading, I've found that 4ext has it's own backup which is not nandroid. But backing up from 4ext is the same as doing a nandroid backup? In which case, every "nandroid" in the earlier post can just be replaced with "4ext backup" accordingly.
If this is a stupid question, just scold me, I'm still learning and asking as I'm reading. Just trying not to create new threads.
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1. Correct. Its highly likely that there will be issues (device won't boot) on almost every occasion.
2. Yes. You may also want to exclude "app data," since it may cause a bootloop or system instability (on some occasions). You could keep a Tb backup if you wish.
It won't be a fatal mistake, but the device will just not boot up (soft-brick). You would have to boot into recovery mode a restore/flash a rom made for the device.
Yes, that's correct.
any one know how i can make a backup nandroid, i wann try to make a custom lockscreen but i dont wanna get screwed if it does not work. then i will be stuck with no lock screen and i will have to install shooter again
If you're rooted and flashed a recovery, boot into recovery and do a nandroid.
Tell me what recovery you're using and I can give you a step by step (well for TWRP I can now...for CWM is have to ref my wifes EVO). Look for my post about TWRP nandroid backups in this forum for more info. Shoot for getting system, data, boot, and Wimax. Id also recommend a separate backup of just Wimax.
The steps (from memory for TWRP) are
Boot to recovery
Nandroid menu
Backup
Select the items mentioned above (I think its defaults plus Wimax)
Then backup nooaawz at the top.
Hope this helps
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boris2k8 said:
any one know how i can make a backup nandroid, i wann try to make a custom lockscreen but i dont wanna get screwed if it does not work. then i will be stuck with no lock screen and i will have to install shooter again
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nandroid backups are very large for this device. nandroid backups are great to create a full system backup. you can also create individual nandroid backups per partition on twrp. creating a nandroid of the system partition should be a fairly good size.
in regards to theming and file editing, if you're looking at only making a custom lockscreen, it will save you time, effort and disk space to duplicate the files you'll be editing. i.e. if you are only going to edit a few files (as would be needed for the lockscreen), when you first adb pull those files, save a duplicate copy as the original somewhere safe. then if your edits break the file, reboot into recovery and adb push your original files back into place and you'll be set to go.
Can I restore a Nandroid from another rezound and It would flash my phone identically to there's. I just want to try my friends rom and I love how he has it set up and I thought it would be pretty easy to just flash/restore his nand
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Does any one know this answer?
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yes
Yes, you can. But it must be contained in a subfolder of nandroid, named HTXXXXXXXX
which is exclusive to your particular phone.
You can discover the name of that subfolder by doing a fake nandroid backup
of the phone you wish to restore to.
Then visualize the sdcard in windows explorer with phone "on" and remove the fake nandroid
backup you just made, replacing it with the preferred backup. Or do this connected to sdcard in recovery.
Either way, the good restore file must be on sdcard in nandroid/HTxxxxxx of new phone.
Then do a 'restore' in recovery and the old operating system is now on a second phone.
Go to Play Store and get updates and you're good to go.
and then, and then
Since it's your friend's setup, you'll need to get into Google Play Store
with your own account, and change other things to your name as well.
It will know all about your VZN account when you put in the sim.
It would be much simpler to flash the Rom and set it up yourself. The nandroid contains all the personnel info he has used on his phone before the nandroid. He (your friend) could fresh install the Rom then before setting anything up he doesn't want you to know do a nandroid.
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What's the best way to backup your apps and rom as well as how the homescreen is set up. Usually I would just titanium backup my apps and make a nandroid.
You answered you own question, using TB
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haha thank you, I thought I might have done that. So, I assume you need the Pro version to do some sort of system image?
TI doesnt back up system images, it does backup of .apk's and sometimes their external data stored in /android and /data. I dont even remember what all the pro version lets you do, but i do know it lets you do batch restore jobs and thats a huge timesaver. you can back up your homescreen set up by finding the [DESKTOP] system app and backing it up, then restoring SYSTEM DATA ONLY. otherwise you might screw up your rom. the app is colored green
The problem I find with titanium backup is that there should be a flashable zip for it for new roms that don't gave it or a file managaer to install the apk.
Then when you flash a rom it says something about the phones old ID. At this point, do you always revert the ID back so that the apps are able to be restored. ? Or not ?
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typhoonikan said:
The problem I find with titanium backup is that there should be a flashable zip for it for new roms that don't gave it or a file managaer to install the apk.
Then when you flash a rom it says something about the phones old ID. At this point, do you always revert the ID back so that the apps are able to be restored. ? Or not ?
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You can create a flashable zip within the app itself. Hit the menu button at the top, then create zip, and change the name of the output zip to "titaniumbackup-xxx" and profit