This section of rooting 2.1 on the this forum:
IV. Flashing a custom ROM - Rooted 2.1 v0.8T2...
what does this actually do and change on the phone (followed the other 3 sections?
If i don't install this: Rooted 2.1 v0.8T2.zip - what effects does it have on the phone and if don't do i still have root access? (could case a problem if i get the OTA update before doing this)
If i do flash this ROM can I go back the original ROM??
and does it change the GUI (HTC SenseUI) i have currently have and effect the way the apps work?
I ask because i have read about some issue with exchange calendar syncing with 2.1 stock devices. My understanding is HTC SenseUI also changes the way Androids native Mail.app, Contacts.app, and Calendar.app function.
Currently the exchange calendar works after doing the first part, however, i rather not install a custom ROM w/o fulling understanding what it is i am changing. My calendar is the main reason I have this phone.
I know not all of these maybe answer but any help would be appreciated. If you need me clarify I can.
Thanks.
gsnowiii said:
This section of rooting 2.1 on the this forum:
IV. Flashing a custom ROM - Rooted 2.1 v0.8T2...
what does this actually do and change on the phone (followed the other 3 sections?
If i don't install this: Rooted 2.1 v0.8T2.zip - what effects does it have on the phone and if don't do i still have root access? (could case a problem if i get the OTA update before doing this)
If i do flash this ROM can I go back the original ROM??
and does it change the GUI (HTC SenseUI) i have currently have and effect the way the apps work?
I ask because i have read about some issue with exchange calendar syncing with 2.1 stock devices. My understanding is HTC SenseUI also changes the way Androids native Mail.app, Contacts.app, and Calendar.app function.
Currently the exchange calendar works after doing the first part, however, i rather not install a custom ROM w/o fulling understanding what it is i am changing. My calendar is the main reason I have this phone.
I know not all of these maybe answer but any help would be appreciated. If you need me clarify I can.
Thanks.
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if you are looking for stock SENSE ui ...ivans 0.8t2 is basically that, stock HTC sense with root built in, very stable and very stock, this is why everyone suggests using that rom when you first root ...... then you can tinker and try others out if you like ....
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Ok guys
i have a hero and i absolutely love it, but after following HTC on twitter eagerly awaiting news on the official 2.1 rom i am now considering installing one of the custom roms i have seen here
Like i say im a newb to all this, i have been reading on this forum for some time but this is one of my first posts. Basically i want to know how i go about installing a custom rom
My handset is a Tmobile G2 touch from the UK
do i need to root? what is the best way/easiest way? can this be reversed to use an official rom in the future?
and which rom is universally known as the best most stable, and again how do i go about installing this, and again is it reversible
and lastly what are the risks?
alot of questions, but i will appreciate any help anyone has to offer
many thanks in advamce
ascottuk said:
Basically i want to know how i go about installing a custom rom
My handset is a Tmobile G2 touch from the UK
do i need to root? what is the best way/easiest way? can this be reversed to use an official rom in the future?
and which rom is universally known as the best most stable, and again how do i go about installing this, and again is it reversible
and lastly what are the risks?
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This should probably have been in the Q&A section...
1. Read my newbie guide on installing a custom rom (covers pretty much everything and if it doesn't ask and i'll add it in)
2. Root is a part of most custom ROM's, you can enable root without putting a custom rom on but it isn't usually worth it
3. Again my guide, or various others are available on the forums
4. Yes it can be reversed, just run an official rru exe from HTC and you'll go back to the way things are
5. This is more down to personal preference.
For Sense you have:
VillainROM (probably most used)
SenseHero
NeoROM
HeroDroid
Legendroid
Raidroid
For Vanilla you have:
aHero
Androbin
VanillaEclair
Vanillain 2.0 (not recommended)
and many others - again check the forums / wiki for details
6. Hehe what risks...
Seriously though:
You can brick your phone (very unlikely), if you're an idiot... (read everything until you understand it and think about what your doing before you click the button)
You can get stuck in boot loops, which are usually recoverable if you just wipe & flash again
You lose your data (sms etc) if it isn't backed up (i'm still working on a complete backup guide)
You might end up with a really pretty Hero v2.1 which is about as slow as 1.5 but you feel better about it cause it looks nice...
Hope this helps
i'd recommend flashing the mr bang 1.5 first before any 2.1s; see exactly how well your hero can perform. the danger is that (like me) that none of the 2.1s really come close, so you're measuring up the 2.1 benefits against performance, and the 2.1 benefits are pretty much limited to:
- icons in the settings menu (nice)
- 3d gallery (nice but can be sluggish)
- live wallpapers (nice for 5 minutes then :yawn
- you have to really EARN that gps lock.
flashing is fun though. get 'sms backup & restore' and pay for titanium backup & make sure you use nandroid backup. you can try a rom & have it running in 20 mins, give it 30 mins to impress you or nandroid restore back & your phone is how it was before an hour has passed.
Hi, I've done tons of Windows mobile upgrades in the past but despite reading through the posts on here, I'm still stuck.
1) I have a HTC Hero (UK Vodafone with the original rom) and want to upgrade to 2.1 in the quickest / smoothest way
2) I'm not bothered about keeping anything at all on the phone
3) Can I use one of official HTC 2.1 roms? If so, will that be easier? i.e. will I need 'rooted' ROMS etc?
Many thanks
vicious6969 said:
Hi, I've done tons of Windows mobile upgrades in the past but despite reading through the posts on here, I'm still stuck.
1) I have a HTC Hero (UK Vodafone with the original rom) and want to upgrade to 2.1 in the quickest / smoothest way
2) I'm not bothered about keeping anything at all on the phone
3) Can I use one of official HTC 2.1 roms? If so, will that be easier? i.e. will I need 'rooted' ROMS etc?
Many thanks
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If you are remotely interested in rooting or using custom software, then DON'T TOUCH OFFICIAL UPDATES. If you install an official HTC update, you won't be able to root again.
TBH, you are better installing a rooted custom ROM. If you choose to go down this route, you have come to the right place.
In terms of ROMs which are very close to the official HTC update (ie. have HTC Sense), take a look at (in no particular order, all are pretty similar)
VillainROM 10.2
Cronos 1.x (can't remember what is latest version)
42Turkey's ROM
Modaco Custom ROM 4.0
etc.
or just browse round the site till something takes your fancy.
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and use BTDAG's guide linked in my signature for step by step instructions on how to do it.
Many thanks for all your help.
I followed it to the letter (using gold card method)
and it worked a treat.
Used Villain Rom in the end.
I've flashed loads of windows mobiles and iphones before but never an android device. This was my boss's phone so was a bit nervous.
It's certainly more complicated than flashing windows or iphones but just as satisfying!
Cheers
Now you'v done the hard leg work it'l be much easier for your boss from now on.
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
Hello all. I'm about to bombard you with a few noob questions that I'm really hoping someone could help me out with.
I'm currently using a Galaxy S2, but after reading a bit about custom ROMs and the ability to possibly increase battery life among other features, I have decided to delve a bit deeper. I do have a few questions though.
- What is the difference between rooting and using a custom ROM?
- Do I need a specific Kernel version or build number in order to use a custom ROM on my Galaxy s2 or does none of that matter when installing a new ROM?
- It is to my understanding that custom ROMs cannot use Kies. So, in the event that Android 4.0 comes out, will I have any problems being able to get it onto my phone with a custom ROM? Will it cause any interferences between the ROM and the new operating system?
I'm very interested in trying this out, however with the firmware I am currently running, there is no replacement to be found. In the event that I want to revert back to factory, it probably will not be possible to find this specific firmware that I am using (already searched).
Thanks a ton in advance for the help
Rooting gives you access to aspects and features on the phone that you otherwise couldn't get to. Installing a custom ROM wipes out the software on your phone and replaces it with software someone other than the OEMs developed.
You need to unlock your bootloader in order to install a custom ROM, and the process for this differs from phone to phone. Other than the different steps, it doesn't really matter what your phone has to start out with.
I don't know anything about Kies.
Honestly, I would highly recommend rooting your phone... just make sure you maek a backup as soon as you get root access (but before you install a custom ROM) and you're good to go!
roboedar said:
Hello all. I'm about to bombard you with a few noob questions that I'm really hoping someone could help me out with.
I'm currently using a Galaxy S2, but after reading a bit about custom ROMs and the ability to possibly increase battery life among other features, I have decided to delve a bit deeper. I do have a few questions though.
- What is the difference between rooting and using a custom ROM?
- Do I need a specific Kernel version or build number in order to use a custom ROM on my Galaxy s2 or does none of that matter when installing a new ROM?
- It is to my understanding that custom ROMs cannot use Kies. So, in the event that Android 4.0 comes out, will I have any problems being able to get it onto my phone with a custom ROM? Will it cause any interferences between the ROM and the new operating system?
I'm very interested in trying this out, however with the firmware I am currently running, there is no replacement to be found. In the event that I want to revert back to factory, it probably will not be possible to find this specific firmware that I am using (already searched).
Thanks a ton in advance for the help
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There's probably a for for the GS2, where you can find details for your phone. Some methods of rooting on some devices do require a specific version of firmware. Give or take carrier issues I heard the GS2's were getting ICS in an update...
The main reasons to root your phone are to do things you can't do without root. For example using a VNC server you typically requires root, but it allows connecting to your phone via VNC. Custom ROMs are usually rooted; installing a custom ROM doesn't always need root (e.g. nvflash) but it helps eventually.
No idea what Kies is and I'm to cold to Google it. If it's in the market, check it in a browser to see what versions they support.
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Hi All,
I am currently running Liberated Aria Froyo Series FR008 as described in the below thread by attn1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819715
Now, I want to upgrade it to CyanogenMod 7 as described in the below thread as it has v2.3 of Andriod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297547
I was reading the instruction mentioned in the below thread and asking to set S-OFF for hboot and advised to use revolutionary.io tool. but i have v0.57 of hboot where as revolutionary.io is talking about v1.02 hboot.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Aria:_Full_Update_Guide
I am seeing similar kind of threads but am confused and not sure if mine is the same problem as others. So, could you please guide me installing CM7 on my phone?
Installed version on my Phone
Andriod Version - 2.2
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.17-cyanogen-liberty
Thanks A Lot,
Harsha.
Hi All,
I have installed HTC ROM 2.2 which updated hboot to v1.02.
I've installed v7.1 package as described in the below link (now my phone is rebooting. Hoping everything goes correctly)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297547
Thanks,
Harsha
If you already have Clockworkmod installed via Unrevoked, then you do not need to update to HBOOT 1.02 or use Revolutionary to obtain S-OFF. There are additional benefits to having S-OFF, so you may want to do it anyway, but Cyanogenmod 7 will work just fine with S-ON and HBOOT 0.57. It's simply a matter of going into Clockworkmod, wiping everything from the device, and installing the Cyanogenmod ROM in its place.
I know it doesn't matter now that you've already done it, but I wanted to point this out in case anyone else with the same question sees this thread.
drumist said:
If you already have Clockworkmod installed via Unrevoked, then you do not need to update to HBOOT 1.02 or use Revolutionary to obtain S-OFF. There are additional benefits to having S-OFF, so you may want to do it anyway, but Cyanogenmod 7 will work just fine with S-ON and HBOOT 0.57. It's simply a matter of going into Clockworkmod, wiping everything from the device, and installing the Cyanogenmod ROM in its place.
I know it doesn't matter now that you've already done it, but I wanted to point this out in case anyone else with the same question sees this thread.
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Thanks drumist for clarifying things. Now, i'm definitely understanding things a little bit more
Here are my observation after 24 hours of usage on v2.3 andriod -
Pros:
1. Its definitely faster than my earlier ROM which is based on v2.2. Probably its because of absence of HTC Sense UI.
2. Enabling/Disabling Wifi is faster now.
3. Inbuilt FileManager. This is a must have feature. Glad its inbuilt now.
4. Videos play smoothly now (.avi). Don't if this is because of v2.3 ROM or is it because of new player (MX Video player) i've installed.
Kind of Cons: (These are not complaints. Just my observations which i feel to be missing in my new ROM)
1. In my Earlier ROM, when i start dialing the number, beneath it shows list of contacts starting with those corresponding names. (I am definitely missing this feature. I hope some one already has a solution to it.)
2. Missing HTC Sense Inbuilt widgets like SMS Viewer,Photo Album
3. Setting Alarms, especially scrolling hours/minutes thru finger swipe is missing.
And last but not least, thanks to CyanogenMod and all the other devlopers/testers who participated in developing this ROM and making it successful.
Thanks,
Harsha.
Sense and Cyanogenmod come with different dialer apps. I don't think it's possible to install the Sense dialer in Cyanogenmod (for the same reason you can't use Sense widgets, etc.). However, you can download different dialer apps from the Android Market and use them in place of the default one that came with Cyanogenmod. Search the Market for "dialer" and a few should show up. One of them might have the feature you want. (I've never used any of them though, so I don't know how good they are.)
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Sense and Cyanogenmod come with different dialer apps. I don't think it's possible to install the Sense dialer in Cyanogenmod (for the same reason you can't use Sense widgets, etc.). However, you can download different dialer apps from the Android Market and use them in place of the default one that came with Cyanogenmod. Search the Market for "dialer" and a few should show up. One of them might have the feature you want. (I've never used any of them though, so I don't know how good they are.)
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thanks for the suggestion drumist. I would definitely try it.
one more question pls-
Can we expect v2.3 with sense in the future?
Thanks,
Harsha.
harsha_mic said:
Can we expect v2.3 with sense in the future?
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It already exists here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260578
Some things don't work (read the first post) but it should be useable if you don't need any of those features.