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I don't know how to go about this, but since seth isnt goin to be making anymore roms the the Neon, I was wondering if someone could starting towards his direction. I would be the first to do this, but i haven't a clue where start. Sorry if this sounds dumb.
well first big thanx for you on taking on this task and its great appreciated im sure by the NEON community.im sure u already asked seth on how to start cooking and search this forum for some other NEON developers.ill help as much as i can.thanx
-wayne
Im learning to cook foor the Neon aswell Seth has given me soem tips and the kitchen he uses, although i don't know how we can better Seths current Rom its great
Could you show me the foundation of it? build on up?
Neon and Niki are very simulare ... i doesnt understand, why nobody try to found out, the different settings off both device, to create a OEM Pack?
An OEM pack would be great
I'm in the same boat myself. I've been reading the forums here for a while now and have a ****load of tools, but I don't know if I have the right tools to cook a ROM for the neon200.
I'm using Seth's Diamond v4 and it works very well, but I would like to cook a ROM that is stripped to the bone and build it back up over time.
If you have any hints or tips on how to cook for the neon please post them, and I'll try to post anything useful (or unsuccessful, until I brick my phone, lol)
Cheers.
starting from scratch?
I believe we should start by changing toms rom and black mary rom to be configured for the neon. it would be great to be able to have everyone benefit from they're work.
Excuse me...could you please direct me to the kitchen?
If someone has a kitchen, I'll start cooking today. I've cooked afew of my own roms, for private use, on my Kaiser. I've had my NEON 300 for about a month, and love it. If Seth has a kitchen do we know which? If someone's already obtained it from him, can you post it? I'll work on an OEM pack...this isn't really all that different from most of them floating around, it's not like most of the HTC apps haven't already been pooped out in oem fashion, ready to cook. This is how communities grow, with people willing to learn for the support and benefit of everyone.
I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
I took a vendor image and added some packages cooked it and flashed it and my phone still worked after it, lol. Not all the apps I added worked, but the process did.
I'm going to play with it some more until I get it right (my GFs new favorite saying is, "Are you playing with that f**king phone again!!!). I'd like to build an ultralite ROM with decent drivers that can be built on.
Netrunner posted in this thread that creating an OEM pack for the Neon shouldn't be too hard, but it seems that there aren't alot of knowledgeable people out there with Neons. The differences might be small but to a n00b (like me, lol) they're pretty major. I've read about as much as I can, (I saved my weekend FF session and it has 259 tabs - and on a side note it peaked @ 1,002,384K and while I know that IE would have drowned in it's own blood, 4MB per tab still seems excessive ...) Any Neon specific help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Next I'm gonna try and take a stock WM6 ROM and port it to 6.1, we'll see what happens from there ...
Hey hey, well done. sounds good my girlfriend says the same thing haha
solution for that problem
I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
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I often hear it from my girl too... what I have done is bought her a htc dual now she's into xda too... a question though how can I know if I have a neon or a htc touch dual? from the back of the phone I have HTC dual but when I search into net NEON looks like a htc dual touch... a bit confused here
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where are you from? If your in the US, most cases you have a neon. If it doesnt have it listed (on back of device), you probably have a niki. Check settings>device information>identity
mjthrupp said:
I just cooked my first Neon200 ROM on the weekend using the Kaiser Kitchen with htcrt settings that NetrunnerAT posted:
[Neon]
Experimental=1
ModelId=NEON****
SignMaxChunkSize=64
RomSections=4, "0x200,SPL,262144,TRUE", "0x600,Splash,262144,FALSE", "0x301,Radio,17563648,TRUE", "0x400,OS,0,FALSE"
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I've got the Niki Kitchen, where do I change the settings so I can make the rom for a Neon200 instead of for the Niki?
I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
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I have no real idea about this stuff yet, but would like to learn and be involved...
Why is it that you can't take an existing Niki ROM and simply change a couple of settings and cook an Neon ROM?
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Im with you, would love to learn But, i think you need an OEM pack, change the radio...from what i know. I'm sure there is a lot more. NetrunnerAT knows how. Not giving up names lol
Manilla Rom
If any one has the kitchen, and is willing to throw out a few pointers, I would be more than happy to get started on a Manilla ROM. Does anyone have any idea where to get one? I PM'd Seth, but have not gotten a reply yet. Any ideas?
Sorry, I repeat myself because I see a Sticky post saying "NO GPS - anntena missing". I've also read a few contradicting posts so I want to make clear:
HTC Touch Dual (nike) HAS gps receiver.
It is enabled on my “Bell” ROM (Canada).
I used the Diamond test software and I can see about 10 satellites. (Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab)
I have also installed Google maps and Garmin Mobile XT and both work like a charm.
I don't think there is a register/settings you can change to enable it on your phone. I think you need a new ROM.
On the WIFI side, I strongly believe it has WIFI but we may need a new ROM to enable it.
Dump your rom and share!!!!
Do you have an 528 MHz CPU? If yes, you have a Neon400 that comes with built-in GPS! And that's why you can't give us Niki-Users a GPS-enabled ROM!
More [email protected]
The canada Released Neon400 has GPS thats been confirmed alot already confirm you have the Neon400 and theres nothing special here
htc are sure churning out lots of different versions of the nike/neon
This sounds realy good!
Need a Dump from SPL and OS. After that, i make NV-Item and RAM Dump. Then i can Compare and found this settings.
Please talk with me tomorow via ICQ or MSN!
Hi, I have no longer followed this thread as I found out I have a Neon and not a Nike.
I'll dump the Rom, SPL, OS and anythink that can be dumped if you tell me how.
The Neon400 isn't the same like Neon100/200/300 because the Neon400 based on another Chipset! This chipset is the Qualcomm MSM7201A (like the Diamond) instead of the Qualcomm MSM7200 and this chipsets doens't have a built-in GPS antenna so dumping your ROM isn't really helpfull for other HTC Neon users!
Sad but true, even for us Niki users!
Anime ... CPU doesnt interessting me ... i need a Full Ram Dump, then i can enable it. I think, GSM is present in Niki and Neon to. Possible Antenna isnt present. I need some NV-Items etc ... i will talk with Thread Starter NOW to found a solution!!!!
Aaahh, I didn't know it! I need to learn a lot more about HTC devices!
It seems HTC is always good for an surprise
Hope Netrunner will find the needed Files. With GPS the Niki is a dream for me
Thread Starter doesnt answer hehehe
Not much to answer. I don't know how to dump the ROM and I've asked before. If you can teach me I'll post the file. Mabe somone can enable the Wifi for Neon, at least.
Yes i will teach you all we need BUT please talk with me over ICQ, MSN, MAIL, Skype ... what ever!
We need a lot steps and its to complex to post only via this Thread!!!!
Some steps doesnt brick your phone, but it doesnt start the OS, after reset. Some steps need a lot of time. Full Ram Dump ~ 2 hours!
I just ordered HTC Touch Dual from bell canada
set to arrive in mail in few days, does this mean im getting the Neon400? want to be 100% sure.
and if so, should i be looking at roms made for the HTC Diamond instead of nike roms?
I got a gift from a friend and it was a HTC Touch Dual ( Neon 300 ) it's pretty cool I looked around and can't seem to find any rom's except for 1 rom......also I saw something about using nike , niki , stuff.....can someone point me out some stuff I can do with this device.
Peace
Mike
Good luck my friend. I also have the Neon300. As of right now, most of the roms you'll find are for the Niki. A couple are for neon (ie Seths Diamond v2). But look in the Development and Hacking forums for customizing. Several different themes you can add like 3 different diamond themes lol, 3 or 4 iphone themes. The Neon rom development should be picking up soon i hope. Its still a new version
LOL you waited so long you retired you new NEON300.
I too am the proud owner of a NEON300 and have searched for days without much luck. The biggest hassle is since most Touch Duals are NIKI's most info is on them & it is very difficult to figure out which stuff applies & which doesn't. (Please don't flame me for not reading the FAQ or searching.. As I said I have spent days searching both in google & the XDA search and it is very time consuming wading through 100's of pages of stuff that doesn't apply in hopes of finding what you are looking for or even a nugget of useful info that actually applies..) Why isn't there a NEON300 or at leasy NEON section like there is for NIKI? Or a sub-section under NIKI like the "Raphael CDMA" section? I understand they are both "Touch Dual" but in reality they are VERY different beasts. Heck check out a NIKI100 & a NEON300 side by side & see. I recently got a Fuze & so far I've had MUCH better luck finding stuff for it than my NEON300! And by the looks of it I too might be retiring my new NEON & sticking with the Fuze if I can't find a solution to my annoying bluetooth issues with my ATT EP-5632 cordless phone system.
PLEASE STICKY THIS!
The purpose of this thread is to consolidate all software, roms, and information on the HTC Touch Dual Neon400.
The Neon400 was released as the CDMA version of the Touch Dual in Canada to Bell and Telus exclusively thus far. At this point in time this exact model is ONLY available in canada to Telus Mobility and Bell Mobility clients.
The Neon400 sports some MAJOR changes to previous Neons and the Niki. Inside it actually has more in common with the HTC Touch Diamond than a traditional Touch Dual (Nike). The specs are as follows:
Qualcomm MSM7501A 528mhz Processor (Same as Diamond)
ROM-capacity: 256 MiB (Same as traditional Nikes)
RAM-capacity: 160 MiB (Higher than Nike, Lower than Diamond)
Full GPS Capability
Same GPU / Graphics capability as Diamond (Altho no 3d interface software provided)
Rumored to have Wifi (neither provider has the drivers/wifi enabled if that is the case).
Both Telus and Bell ship the phone with WM 6.1 Pro as an OS.
Because of the limited availablity of the Neon400, and the vastly different specs, and the fact that it has only been available since Sept. 2008. There is next to none (I have yet to find any) software or rom flashes/upgrades available.
This thread serves as a place for the few of us who have Neon400's to test out new ideas, share modding experiences, give, and receive advice.
Few of my questions right off the top:
Will the previously established methods for unlocking Nike's work for this model? (anyone yet tested?)
Are there any TESTED and COMPATIBLE Roms that work on the Neon400 thus far?
Is anyone currently working on the above projects?
Thank you and Welcome Neon400 users! Lets take advantage of the extra horse power in our HTC Nike's and get things rolling!
instead of neon400, how about all neons? i have the neon300, all pretty much the same (of what you can install on it)
I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
BeatleMatt said:
I just got my Neon400 a couple weeks back.
Hopefully we can get some ROM's going for this....the battery life is killin' me!
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They already have roms for the Neon
I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
i two just bought a Telus Neon400 and i found that yes it is vary buggy like when i finish a call it like freezes for a bit then its fine
it lags alot eats up mad batterie life i just want to be able to unlock it and install anew rom something that has far less bugs in it ,we need more sopport
88fingerslukee said:
I'm trying to post more in these forums to show support for this phone. The other Neon ROMs may work for this phone, but nobody knows because we can't unlock the damn thing.
Is there any info on how to develop HardSPLs for phones?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377260
Always use the top search option to find answers : ) Very easy. This is for the Neon
Unfortunately this method doesn't work for the Neon 400. I should know, I tried. The screen turns black and you need the reset the phone.
So,no, the top search option doesn't work here.
yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
hammer22 said:
yep i bid we should set upsomething like payment for someone who makes a hacked spl for this phone im willing to pay im sick of the bugs i really liked the touch so much sopport but for this one nothing there has to be someone out there that casn do this
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You would think it would have to be somebody who has access to the phone. Since nobody else but Canadians can use it, I don't think there's much hope that any of the regular SPL writers would be able to do it.
I hope I'm wrong though. I've tried to PM Olipro asking for help, but to no avail.
We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
I was able to extract the .raw files from my Telus "Neon", using the Kaiser tutorials, if this helps? I didn't know what to do beyond that...
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We're seeking into this issue. If anyone got an original (shipped) rom for neon400, let me know.
Cya,
Viper BJK
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I'm unsure if one exists. At least, I can't find one on any of the sites (bell.ca, telus.com, pdcphones.com, htc.come etc). I also heard from the Telus salesman that the phone is being discontinued. That's bad for updates. I don't know about Bell.
need HARDspl
if there is one its for the jap version of the neon400 dont know what good that would do
and as for updates htc site would have them if telus would not right it only makes sence
is there a way to extract the rom off my phone ?
neon 400's are also available in Gsm quad band not just cdma.
I am new to the touch dual(Neon 400), I previously had a Touch(Vogue) with NFSFANs rom, until a few days ago when it died on me.
I have done a lot of research on the web and it seems like there is no way to unlock to Neon 400, not that I can find.
I am wondering if there is anyway that any of the cooks would consider taking a bit of time and try to get these phones unlocked, so all the people with the Neon 400 can take advantage of cooked roms, the standard rom is slow, and not even compareable to a cooked rom.
I have always donated to the cooks of the roms I have used before and would definently donate to anyone that can get this phone unlocked. And for all the posts I have read I think a lot of other Neon 400 users would certaintly donate as well.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Cobra
You have to follow THIS thread
OK, Thanks!
No HTC Touch Dual Neon400 Hard-SPL Or Cooked Rom
Atm there are no SPL's for the neon400 the CDMA version has not been broken yet. I have a thread started as posted above thanks to salvy.c.83 for pointing him in the right direction I hope to help all Canadians as well being Canadian and owning a neon400 I share the sadness hope all will be done soon!