Hi all,
I have an HTC Magic, and I happen to like using the old (3.22) radio. Amon_RA's Donut port is my standard choice of Android, and I don't like having to **** about with fastboot and recovery mode just to try out new ROMs.
My question is this: Is there an easy way to port from new radio to old and/or vice-versa? I'm toying with my own port of a ROM (using the basic kitchen), but I think the only way I can get it to work is by flashing the new radio.
Thanks in advance,
unfunk
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Hello everyone,
most recently I have updated my Hero to the new ROM supplied by the fellows at HTC (the 2.73... I think). Then I remembered that on my HTC S710 I used to have a rom that came from here. So, I took a look. I have a couple of questions. Oh, let me also tell you that I have rooted my phone (I think, with Instant Root).
So these are my questions:
What do you think is the best rom available?
And why? What are its advantages to a 'normal' HTC Rom?
As a beginner, I can look over this forum for hours (I did!) but still miss out on this answer!
there is no answer to this question, that's why.
It's like asking which is better, up or down?
Everyone will prefer a different ROM for different reasons. get your device flashed to the new recovery image and then you can try all the ROMS and decide for yourself what the 'best' one is.
Personally i stick with the generic ROMs and haven't used the modaco custom ROMs yet as i am happy with the way the device works and not in need of all the hacks that other people want as i rarely use them.
you may be different.
try them all and decide for yourself.
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
There aren't many customised ROMs for the Hero yet, partly because the source code isn't available yet from HTC, so the ones that do exist are based on versions of the HTC ROMs.
Use Flashrec and install the awesome modified cyanogen recovery image, then you can flash one of the ROMs. I chose the stock UK ROM pre-rooted, from MoDaCo's site (not the MoDaCo customised ROM though).
It's convenient because it is pretty much the stock experience, except it's pre-rooted which makes some other things possible.
dekraan said:
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
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Hey, I upgraded from a S710 to a Hero as well. I'm very happy with having done that as the Hero is such a better phone!
Anyway. Flashing a new recovery image is one one of these 'tinkering' things you/we have to get used to when playing with ROMs. Essentially the recovery image is a very basic control on the phone that you can reboot into, from where you can update the ROM or do total system backups. You can read about how to do this in MoDaCo's custom ROM thread in the android development section. Flashing a new recovery image and new ROM isn't too hard really; took me at most a couple of hours.
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
Da9L said:
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
Branwen said:
Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Okay I have searched, looked at videos, commented some topics but still I have not found my answer.
If I was to download this Android Build: (Ex. [BUILD]15.09.10|mdeejay Froyo Sense v. 2.1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
or
[BUILD] [18.08.2010] [darkstone HD2Froyo V2.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735532
Do I need to download anything else other than what's already included in the Android Build? I keep hearing about this radio rom, Cooked rom, etc.
Do I need that stuff?
Thank you very much.
They are READY-TO-USE BUILD....
I am no expert but this is my understanding, most importantly Android causes problems somehow with the stock ROM on you HD2 so you will want to put a custom WinMo ROM onto the phone before you try using Android. In order for you to flash to a different WinMo rom you will need to follow the va0rious steps there too, there are a lot of great guides on the forums but during that process you make your phone able to take major changes (like ROM and Radios).
All the guides include steps on how to change your Radio as well as the ROM, I know there is at least one stickied in the ROM discussion forum (not Android ROM). The builder of the Android you choose will invariably offer suggestions as to what ROM they use for WinMo and what Radio they have had the best results with. That is what I think you are talking about as far as Radio in relation to Android. Like WinMo different Radios are more or less effective, and even more so than WinMo they can cause major havoc if you disregard the instructions about what Radio you should use (I know of some that will apparently brick the phone)
I am sure someone that knows more than me will answer sooner or later but hope that helps
1. Install HSPL if you are still on Stock ROM
2. Install Android Compatible WM ROM from this forum (ChuckyDroid,OzDroid,VBNROM)
3. Install Radio >= 2.08.50.xx (Dont install .51 Radio)
4. Install Android build of your choice as instructions in respective threads
For all the above, search using keywords HSPL, etc and you will reach gold.
PS : I am not responsible for you bricking the device. If you are hesitant, dont do it !
Hello!
Today, I've tried cooking a ROM with the Android kitchen (link 1). I'm pretty new to anything that includes more than flashing a ROM or poking around in the /system/ directory. I am, however, a bit experienced with Linux.
So, today I was bored and tried to deodex and then port a Legend 2.2 stock ROM (link 2) to Hero using the kitchen built-in feature. For the source of Hero files I've used CM 6.1 final image. That went OK so I made a zip file. So my question is, can flashing that brick my phone beyond repairing it myself? I'm guessing no because that Legend ROM, as I've figured, doesn't have a radio.
And please, don't rip my throat out because it probably won't work and because I'm a newbie... I know that, but as I said, I'm bored.
And is there a failsafe of bricking that I can make?
Hi,
Sorry if this sounds like an idiotic question but anyway, here it goes:
I am considering flashing a custom ROM but I see in that post that it says it requires to have a slightly different version of android and/or radio than the one I currently have (ie i have 4.0.1 and the ROM "suggests" to have 4.0.2). Does this mean that I should flash a stock ROM with the necessary "requirements" first before flashing the custom ROM that I am interested in?
Thanks.
No, if you flash a stock Rom and then a costume Rom, the costume will take over the stock. Just flash the one you want but make sure you do a back up first just in case, don't ever worry as long as you back up, you'll be okay
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just flash it
Thanks for the info. This is exactly why i feel a bit confused. My understanding was that the ROM would already have the new version of Android or radio wrapped into the ROM itself.
then what is the reasoning behind the "requirement for a ROM"?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
thanks.
just FYI to all, i took the dive and flash my first custom ROM successfully. thanks for the advise.
ROM and Radio are two different things, with two different flashing processes. When you flash a custom ROM, you change the entire Android operating system, but it doesn't change your radio. If you have to flash a radio, there are quite a few methods you can find if you search. Usually if you have good battery life and signal strength, then you don't need to flash a new radio. Otherwise, you may try flashing the latest radio available for your phone.