I have unlocked the phone using the multicolor bootloder.
installed a vz rom, the esn has been repaired to a current vz phone, the meid has been wiped to all 0's, the spc code is 000000 like needed.
also set epst settings like found on a post on ppcgeeks
public dmu key?
the .prl is now 51099 - *228 .... option 2...... "Im sorry but we are unable to program your phone at this time"
HELP!
edit: currently bettin its because im lacking a data plan.
ok i have to first state the this is illegal which is stupid but if you were to get it to work you would have to clone the imei from a currently working verizon phone to your sprint touch pro... you'd then have to call customer service from the verizonized touch pro and tell them that you need a new a-key... once the phone is verizonized don't ever use any of the *228 options... pm me if you have any questions
HeadKase said:
ok i have to first state the this is illegal which is stupid but if you were to get it to work you would have to clone the imei from a currently working verizon phone to your sprint touch pro... you'd then have to call customer service from the verizonized touch pro and tell them that you need a new a-key... once the phone is verizonized don't ever use any of the *228 options... pm me if you have any questions
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uhmmm... imei only applies to GSM phones. CDMA phones have either ESN or MEID (pESN). As far as the legality of the issue, it is done this way to prevent fraud.
You are correct about the A-Key though. However, if the OP is going to go through the hassle of calling VZW, he might as well just ask for the NAM parameters directly (MIN, MSID, and HomeSID)
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I was a cell tech 10 years ago but now I am lost. I want to switch providers but keep my phone. Company techs say no way, have to buy new phone. That HTC 6800 and xv6800 look similar but have different guts and one will not emulate the other. Can I flash the mogul to work with verizon? If so, A few keywords for searching this site, to get up to speed would be greatley appreciated. Thanks for your help.
The phones are essentially identical if you put cosmetic differences aside. The real difference is that Sprint have that one's ESN number in their database for the phone, and Verizon have no knowledge of that phone in their database. So, if you call VZW they will say, "hmmm... nope, we can't help you." But, if you illegally change that one's ESN to the ESN of a valid Verizon phone, you can register that phone to their network. But, there is a little difference about ESN, MSL, MSID, etc. between VZW and Sprint... so if you decide to break the law well, make sure to research your topic thoroughly. It is possible though.
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The phones are essentially identical if you put cosmetic differences aside. The real difference is that Sprint have that one's ESN number in their database for the phone, and Verizon have no knowledge of that phone in their database. So, if you call VZW they will say, "hmmm... nope, we can't help you." But, if you illegally change that one's ESN to the ESN of a valid Verizon phone, you can register that phone to their network. But, there is a little difference about ESN, MSL, MSID, etc. between VZW and Sprint... so if you decide to break the law well, make sure to research your topic thoroughly. It is possible though.
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verizon now (or will soon) lets you use any phone on their network (provided its CDMA of course) so having them activate a sprint mogul shoudlnt be an issue
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verizon now (or will soon) lets you use any phone on their network (provided its CDMA of course) so having them activate a sprint mogul shoudlnt be an issue
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My Verizon rep said next year... and in Verizon time that means don't hold your breath.
i had heard some areas had started immediately following the announcement last november
So I did the unlock and put the new sprint rom on it. I then loaded the prl, changed the msl to all 0's. I called verizon to change it from my juke. They told me the esn is not in there database, she had to submit a form to try to get it changed, it will be some days if they do it at all. Is there anything I can do to get this to work on Verizon without them trying to add the esn and it possibly getting denied. I would like to get it up and running today. Does anybody have a way to fix this, that is in noob terms. Thank you in advance!
Yes, you can supercid it and then clone your existing esn onto it.
http://www.ringerpost.com/forums/rpost.pl?b-rt/m-1207420735/
ok I attempted to clone it to my existing juke phone that I have active on verizon. When i change the esn I get no signal. Even when prl is loaded. When I change the esn back to the stock esn, I get a signal, but verizon won't activate that esn, they called me back and said its a sprint esn and they couldn't activate it. Man I am pulling my hair out trying to figure this out. Can anybody offer some help, or post the steps they used to get this working?
any help would be great
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any help would be great
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vzw hasnt fully made their system open yet. they wont accept an esn that they didnt sell. so no sprint esn will be activated. the only thing you can do is change the esn, but since that makes you not able to get a signal, seems like you might not be doing that right...
i don't understand what im doing wrong
You're not doing anything wrong. Verizon WILL not activate any phone on their network that doesn't have a Verizon ESN. The mogul will run perfectly fine on the network, but because it has a Sprint ESN, they will not activate it. Now...if you're trying to clone the ESN of an existing Verizon phone, that's a whole different story and is quite illegal.
I don't believe that cloning the esn from a juke will work -- because VZW knows the phone type by the esn. It seems that you would need to use an esn from a junk mogul
give it a try?
the phne should at least get a signal from that esn though. It gets nothing! Its like I'm in a no coverage zone
i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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^^^ Thats cuz they know the power of DCD
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i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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is it possible to use verizon phone for sprint? Then use your rom?
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is it possible to use verizon phone for sprint? Then use your rom?
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I would love to know this. It would cut my bill by about 75%.
Asking the experts...
I have been reading and following the titan for some time and are ready to purchase. Looking at Verizon vs. Sprint for new device, Verizon is way more expensive. Looking at eBay there are many for Sprint and next to zero for Verizon.
I would like to bid on a "clean ESN" phone for Sprint, then activate on Verizon. Possibly even activate on Sprint for some time then switch. (I have under 2 months left on my contract).
I have found a few that are NIB for a seller and asked for the ESN. He states he gives them only to the winner. I say red flag, but does he have a security issue (I could clone it??)?
And from above, could I do the double activate or if Verizon says it is clean only do it there?
Thanks.
I am also trying to do this. I have the cracking 6800 package, followed the instructions and was able to get the cid to all o's, although i am stuck in CDMA workshop and cant change the ESN because i am not sure what port to connect on( i have tried all them no luck) Anyone with any ideas would help me out alot. Also if the phone is currently unlocked with 2.4 loader but has the sprint 3.35 radio is it safe to flash to a stock verizon rom? Do i need to even do this? I have flashed with a custom rom then selected verizon as my carrier but in EPST config it still shows SPCS.
dcd1182 said:
i just activated my sprint motoQ on verizon. they did not question the sprint ESN at all.
flashed a vz image and vz prl, and all is good.
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SHOW OFF.......lol
were not worthy!.....were not worthy!
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I bought the htc touch pro sprint version off a good deal. I used the elite team unlocker and I tossed the vzw leaked rom on the touch pro. Installation of the leaked rom went fairly well, and I thought I was ready to get this device connected via vzw network. I called vzw 3 times, went to 3 different stores, all have the same answer.
They cannot add the esn to their database. So my question is - what's the workaround regarding that policy? Do I have a very expensive alarm on my hands or is there something that can be done?
btw I haven't unlocked the msl code and I put the sprint rom (stock rom) back on the device to start fresh. Bear in mind I tried Getspc and I found that didn't work too well. I also tried QPST on vista and windows xp and the same popup on both machines came up (installing new drivers, please select driver location) to try and change the msl.
Any other thoughts or a good direction of where to go? I tried going to mobile files and I got an okay understanding of it, but an issue is well...I'm not sure of what to do.
I know there was a thread in the diamond forum to change the esn and I think that would be a good idea, what are your thoughts on it? Is it a good idea? Did I just open up pandora's box?
Try this
Go to forum.ppcgeeks.com
I believe I read something similar to this on that site. Don't know about the solution, but they are more advanced in dealing with the CDMA Pro, as they appear to have had it longer.
Sorry I couldnt help more. So Much for the Open Network Verizon promised.
Carriers sometimes are just a BIG Joke.
yeah I was reading two topics started by one guy...seems he went through the same drama that i went through
so I'm thinking from the discussion the only way would be to send the phone to verizon and I don't want to do that honestly
Dont
Don't Do it, and Verizon would rather you bu their own touch Pro when it gets released
Unless you can edit/spoof a Verizon ESN I don't think it's possible currently. If you do manage to find a way to do that, you need to be careful as it's probably illegal (as the ESN could belong to someone else -- and I'm sure there's laws in place to "protect you") -- Guessing at least, IANAL
Yes, technically it is illegal to change the ESN of a phone, however, I know that there was a way to change it (at least for the Mogul).
its been done
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=44663
trying it now and so far my results are exactly as advertised huzzah!
So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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So what's the verdict? Success or Fail?
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its my understanding that at this time vzn has suspended adding ESN's to there DMD. check the PPCgeeks post above your post and check to make sure though.
Yeah, I see they have some Sprint Touch Pro's on e-bay and I was thinking about getting one for my verizon account because they are cheaper and also I heard they have more processor memory or something. So does that no longer work, or can someone point me to a thread on this?
if you go to PPC geeks you can fint the post in the TP section.
I have a sprint touch pro on vzw network working perfectly using the above method a wile back, however 2 days ago i lost internet, and decided to activate an old phone and reactivate the touch pro to reset the internet settings on verizons network, when reactivating the sprint touch pro i was told the esn was invalad du to the fact that it was not 911 compadable,.. wich we allknow it is, but i believe verizon has just set their network to generate that error when a sprint esn is trying to be added, as of right now there is a truble ticken in with verizons it department but, im not very hopefull, i think my next step would be to clone an esn of a verizon phone i am not using, can anyone help me with that?
if it was anything close to what I had to do to get it on alltel, if you can get them to add the esn you may have to manually program it then add a prl then try *228 it....you do best to call vzw CS and tell them its theirs if they ask...
Hello I bought nice phone from ebay and I went to activate it and everything went fine, but when I do a *228 it updates the prl to 30044. After reset the phone does not work at all, the only way I can get it to work is if I use PRL 30036.
I have an alltel Phone and touch pro can anyone help? I have spent the last two days on tech support with Alltel and they dont know what to do, they told me the hardware is broken but how can that be if the prhone works with older PRL??
I just dont get it.
are u upgrading the roaming towers when doing *228 or doing the activate ur phone option ?
i am doing the option 1.
option one is to activate your phone option 2 updates the PRL - so chances are there something wrong with the activation process. so try option 2 instead of option 1 ... i do beleive 30036 is when alltel used 3rd party towers still and 30039 is when they started to cut out other carrier towers and switch over to pure alltel and verizon towers. but i dont know i havent tried editing the PRL files and compairing them.
is your phone a Alltel one or is it sprint or verizon or some unknown carrier created version?
Ok heres what I figured out, its not actually the prl updating that is disabling the phone, but the activation.. when I dial *228 and do option 2, it will update my prl.. and everything will work fine, but if I do an option 1 it will update the prl and disable the phone... Something else is happening when I do *228 with option one...
Alltel is clueless. The "engineer" that is handling my trouble ticket left me a voicemail today asking why i dont just keep the 30036 prl, well obviously since its outdated lol and I am roaming where ever I go.
Its an alltel phone with stock alltel Rom. The ebay listing said it works on verizon network. I spoke with a verizon rep and he said thats impossible. Again i know he is full of it because I have been reading the forums.
chances are the previous owner did some edits using QPST and possibly caused it to do some funky things... i dont see why the activation of the phone would cause it to disable but the verizon agent is half right(he is probably a CSR dealing in customer service not a TSR who deal with technical issues. he doesnt know jack about the technical aspects of the phone as much as he would like to think he does. but if its unlocked and flashed to a verizon rom it would work. possibly)
im thinking there is something that the phone is not interpriting correctly when it takes the activation update and confusing the living hell outta it ... what rom and radio is the phone running?
I have reverted back to the stock rom from alltel, which I read somewhere contains the newest radio. not sure where to look for the specific radio version.
I believe your right about the other guy using qpst to change some settings. It seems to hard to believe that it could be a hardware issue. i guess now I just need to know what settings he changed and get them back. Ive got QPST now and I have my phone connected to it, but I don't know what information to change so im kind of just waiting for instructions lol. I found a couple thread oon how to convert alltel phones to Verizon, but none that are going to alltel so I don't know where to get all the proper settings.
Ok so I read somewhere that part of the process of converting over to the other network is deleting the ha and aaa shared secret keys, then resetting the device, i did this, because I thought maybe he put in verizon in in these boxes, but it did not help, and now the two entried do not even show up in epst.
I tried re-adding them via QPST as text values, I write to phone, but the information does not take. I have the HA and aaa shared secret keys written down.
i think once u flash to stock rom that should change it for you when u do the activation so now that ur on stock try the *228 option 1 and see if it kills the phone features.
the radio you can find in device information should tell u the radio the prl and the meid and mdn.... what u wana make sure is that the mdn does not change when doing a *228 option 1 ... if that clears that would mean ur phone doesnt know it has a phone # :\
as for the QPST stuff i dont have it installed right now so i dont know the settings... the alltel stock rom shouldnt have an aaa key i beleive dew to the phone does not have auth for the internet like verizon. dont know about the HA though ... i think that comes from *228 option 1
what you can try is dial ##778# or ##778 and press send and it should pull it up the HA shared secret is something strange by the activation the AAA shared secret should be alltel you should be able to edit them in there itws under M.ip default profile
ok i see them now, I had NSFANS rom installed a few hours ago ann I was able to do ##3282# (doesnt work with altell rom) and I could actually restore the EPST settings there, after it reset everything was blank, I had to flash the stock alltel rom again to get all the alltel settings in there and I had to add my SID MSID and NAI, after that.
Something is still wrong though, Im not sure what my ha or aaa shared keys are even doing, or if i should change them. Im really lost at this point.
And Data hasnt been working since day 1 not sure if thats relevant.
data i think is what uses the keys ... also is the data connection set to use the #777 to dial out with no user name or password ... does the *228 option 1 work when on the alltel stock rom also?
Ok the user name and password were blank, I seem to remember on my titan the settings were [email protected] and password blank., the *228 option 1 messes the phone up then i have to install a older prl, everything works except i get a romaing triangle and no evdo, just 1x.
I just spoke with an alltel rep again to pick his brain for a minute and he said why am i doing option 1 that could mess my phone up, and really i have no idea why i am trying to do it. i just want my evdo to work and to get a good signal and Data to work properly.
Ok so noy my data works.. lol
Only real problem I have is no ev and the roaming triangle.
the roaming thing is usually comes from a flash of a differnet carriers stock rom and it ran the customizations ... that could also be the cause of the option 1 f-ing everything up but you said u flashed to the stock alltell one off the htc site so it should wipe out those settings... im waiting right now for the replacement phone to come in the mail once it gets here ill copy down all the settings from stock and post em but iv been waiting about a week and a half for it to arrive so im not holding my breath. (the last one they sent took a month and it was active on some one elses account and it was listed as stolen... how nice of them)
I cant find where the mdn information is listed.
I found the HA and AAA shared secret keys, but I dont know if I should delete them or just leave them be..
Ok I got my new phone today, a brand new one. And they were having the same exact problem activating it as they were with this phone. Im gonna have to chalk this one up as an error on alltels network. One thing I think it may have been is that I had my number changed recently so my number and my MSID are not the same my MSID is my old phone number.
They started to tell me that the new phone i bought was broken again and I said the chances of that were astronomical. I told them to go in the back and get me one of their touch pros, activate it and then try telling me the same thing. He came back out with a blackberry, activated it then smirked as he was able to activate it. I said that's not a touch pro though, go in the back and get a touch pro and try to activate that. as I was saying that he reactivating my new touch pro, and then he was like "oh its working now" lol so for now its working.
Now that I have both touch pros, the only difference i can find in the EPST settings are the SID/NID numbers, on the new one the settings are 1/244, on the old one the settings are 244/63535. don't quote me on the 63535, it was similar to that but i have already packaged the phone for shipment and i don't feel like getting it back out.
First of all you guys rock! This forum is the best. Now to the point. I have a Touch pro from Alltel. I flush it to Metro but never call metro to activate. I installed the Mighty Rom and when I call Verizon (which bought Alltel) and activated the phone. Everything worked good but the texting. I called verizon and they did whatever but nothing. Master reset and nothing. I tried to flush back the factory rom, but showed error. Any Ideas?...
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First of all you guys rock! This forum is the best. Now to the point. I have a Touch pro from Alltel. I flush it to Metro but never call metro to activate. I installed the Mighty Rom and when I call Verizon (which bought Alltel) and activated the phone. Everything worked good but the texting. I called verizon and they did whatever but nothing. Master reset and nothing. I tried to flush back the factory rom, but showed error. Any Ideas?...
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It may be rom specific for instance on NFSF's 1.04 6.5 rom i have the same issue, but because your moving from one carrier to another defanitly check your nam settings and carrier specfic settings. ##778 or using qpst/cdma workshop. Thats my suggestion. By calling providers and "activating" the phone all there doing is locking in your MEID and ESN to have service routed to that specific phone. So if your calling and such is working it may not be related to the carrier, unless your txt's are being delayed due to there network which is highly unprobable.
Thanks for the answer, I checked but I don't know what should go in the nam for Alltel. Can anyone give the info to do it. Thank you.