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NOT FOR ATOM EXEC NOR HP6800 SERIES.
First of all this ROM is basically an extension over JIGGS AKU 0.7A ROM ..
Thanks to Jiggs (Thanks Mate!), abusalza for his kitchen and all the other community members
This new ROM is much faster than the old one thanks to some more tweaks and newer versions..
The Rom is 6MB PAGEPOOL.... and includes the following.. :-
1. HTC DIALER
2. Total Commander
4. HTC communication manager
5. HTC Action Screen
6. Network wizard
7. WM5torage 1.78
8. HTC keypad , HTC Keyboard(with T9 Input )
9. HTC CUBE , works AGAIN this time FASTER , MORE RESPONSIVE and as before the Installation is SEMI-AUTOMATIC..(Senses left-right movement ,Very similar to the real HTC TOUCH) Thanks to Kona_Mtbkr
11.HTC Audio Manager and the Plugin..
12.FINGER SCROLL CONTACTS , comes pre configured with default softkey etc..(icontacts )
13.Many other Misc. add-ons also included
14.X-Button
15.HTC calculator
16.HTC Windows Media Player SKIN
Removed
1.Photo Editor
The free RAM is about - 20 -22 MB(with cube ,and HTC HOME running)
Free Storage :- 35 Mb.
Known Bugs:-
1.Extended ROM does not get unlocked(looking for a solution)
2.A2DP problems
3.Disabling Or Enabling Home Plugins Requires Soft Boot now..
RAPIDSHARE
4SHARED
INSTALLATION
1. Put device to bootloader mode: (CAMERA+RESET)
2. Connect device to PC under Windows XP using USB cable
3. Run the executable DSUU.EXE
4. Follow on-screen procedure
After installation is complete , on the first boot you will be asked to install programs , please dont skip any one of them as this may result in malfunction .. , and also install 1 ,2 ,3 ,4 ,5 ,6 ,7 .cab files on your phone memory when prompted ..
IMPORTANT NOTE- 2.CAB ASKS FOR REBOOT WHEN INSTALLED PRESS CANCEL(right soft key) AFTER YOU INSTALL IT AS OTHER APPLICATIONS HAVE TO BE INSTALLED TOO..(sry forgot to edit..)
PLEASE DONT SKIP ANY INSTALLATION..
After all the programs are installed and you have rebooted once ..
Go to Programs MENU and open SIM MANAGER ,copy all your contacts to phone memory .
NOW REBOOT AGAIN..
You might notice bit slowness during first few startup but dont worry ...it will only be for a few seconds after which everything works smoothly..
After this you are all set to go , the left softkey opens up Action Manager which gives you quick access to new messages etc.. , the right key opens up the new contacts application .
A DOWN TO UP MOVEMENT ON THE SCREEN WOULD RESULT IN OPENING OF THE CUBE.
WHEN THE CUBE IS OPENED YOU CAN CLOSE IT BY SNIPPING YOUR FINGER UP TO DOWN.
FURTHER NOTES :-
1. I have also included Flash Video Bundle in an seperate folder when you UNRAR the rom ... you can install it along with TCPMP player(also included.) to view sites like Youtube etc..
2. In the Previous ROM Slide to Unlock was included by default ,this time i have included it as an optional .cab setup so incase you are interested you can simply install it , Note - You don't need to change the skin as thats all preconfigured in a custom CAB
So i am now uploading and the link will be up soon also , will be posting some screenshots..
Special Note:
This is NOT an OFFICIAL ROM. You can not expect support from O2 by bringing in your device with this ROM. Neither should you contact them for support on this ROM. By downloading and upgrading your device with this ROM, you agree to the considerable risk of bricking your device; and that I can not be held liable for damage brought about by the usage of this ROM.
Side Note: This will not SIM unlock or change your mobile serial no. (IMEI) in any way. You can flash back to original ROM anytime! Do not attempt to flash this on ATOM EXEC! If you get COUNTRY ID ERROR, you did not follow steps above. Do NOT restore from spb / sprite full backup, this will overwrite system files and make your device unstable; worse, unusable.
NEVER ATTEMPT TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE USING SD CARD FLASHING!!!
I am currently using, jiggs rom 0.7a. and i'd like to give a try on yours but where can i get that mate? Cpacubo...
Rapidshare mirror is up now..mate..
Please READ THE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY
MMS problem solved?
Does this ROM solve the MMS problem on the previous version?
In the previous version of this ROM, I am having problems receiving MMS even after I do Auto COnfiguration and a Soft-Reset. I did not have this problem when I was on JIGG's AKU070.
I can't really say...but i think it should..man coz nothing at all related to MMS has been touched from the AKU.7A ..so i guess it will..
Sorry i can not check as i dont hv MMS activated..
hi too all
Great work
Hope in this one UNknown contact problam has been sort out.
good rom.
but i have a few questions.
1. is it compatible with atom life?
2. after updating to this rom. can i still use the wisbar to make my phone look like an iphone?
3. does this rom include touchflo already?
4. if i am on the "iphone" theme of wisbar, can i still use touchflo?
thanks!
@t3dong
1.NO
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.-Dont Know-
Thanks , this one works very well..
Ok, thanks a alot. I've downloaded it and will soon reflash my atom with this one... Can't wait to see the cube on mine..
Remember to read instructions carefully, sorry for repeating again but this is very important..
...IMPORTANT NOTE- 2.CAB ASKS FOR REBOOT WHEN INSTALLED PRESS CANCEL(right soft key) AFTER YOU INSTALL IT AS OTHER APPLICATIONS HAVE TO BE INSTALLED TOO..
Thaks 4 quick replay mate. I will follow your instructions...
wow awesome! what a good-looking rom. i love it very much. You've done a great job mate... keep up the good work. so far there's no problem with this rom. the cube turn nicely to the left and right. the other htc application are good as well. Oh ya, one thing, after i install Audio Booster, the skin of audio manager return to blue not black anymore but it's functioning well. Once again thank you for giving a new look and life to black atom!
can't seem to make the cube work...also the icontacts show nothing...am I missing something?
Yes , you are ..did you care to read the instructions..........please read them
Icontacts works after you have copied all contacts to phone memory..
As for the cube i would suggest you to read the instructions carefully , install all application..in phone memory..
No need to reflash just to a HARD-BOOT(Power +RESET) and follow instructions..
Hope it works this time
Yeah I read them very much..before running the ROM anyway, I did try to do Hard Reset to redo the installation of the cab files but it always hangs up after the 4.cab installation...I'm doing a reflash of the ROM from bootloader to try..
Thanks responding..will let you know
I reflashed...I don't get it...I get the Quick Launch Soft Key on the left but as per instruction it supposed to be the Action Manager
And did u swipe your finger DOWN TO UP on the screen to activate the cube mate??
udayrulz said:
And did u swipe your finger DOWN TO UP on the screen to activate the cube mate??
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cool!
now u become rom creater. hehe. power!!! must pass down ur skill to me.
udayrulz said:
And did u swipe your finger DOWN TO UP on the screen to activate the cube mate??
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yup..a few times..also I noticed it hangs so much..it only responds to up and down movements..not the left and to the right...
anybody know which 6.5 Rom can show chinese中文 in touch flo?because some chinese word in touch flo and phone skin can not show it
p.s my english is not very well..
Hello, Chankafai, 你好
This reply maybe too late and probably you have already figured out how to do this.
For anybody else having problems on showing Chinese character in m2d or elsewhere on a wwe ROM, herecs howto:1
First you need to install a Chinese font file to show Chinese characters. For example: sunglobe.ttf, copy it to Windows folder.
Second, install Chinese wince.nls, soft reset and change the regional settings in start >> settings >> system to let the system to set Chinese as default code, show correct time, date, and currency format etc.
Third, need to manually adjust registry subkey .\HKLM\software\Microsoft\fontlink\systemlink\, make sure all strings read as: \Windows\sunglobe.ttf, UniSun. and then soft reset, and your are done.
Font, wincenls.cab and other instructions can be found here: http://sakajati.com
Hi,
Do you have a good chinese/japanese IME to recommend for WM?
Many IMEs have problem on newer WM build.
If you use both Chinese and Japanese, maybe CE-Star is the best choice. It is not finger friendly, but it has a good word recognizing IME. CE-Star is not freeware, but after expired the trial period all other IME still works except the word recognizer. The official version can not work with newer OS builds. But somebody dismantled it into parts, and then allways work. My Kaiser phone comes with the original licensed one, but I have to use the dimantled one after I started to use custom ROMs.
Another good word recognizing IME is called HawonPen (汉王笔马兰花), it also works with WM65 or WM651, it is set as default IME after install.
Also there is a good fiinger friendly IME called touchpal, but its English version is not freeware.
Abovementioned are all for Non-Chinese ROMs. If you are using a Chinese ROM, then you have plenty of choices, and all of them are freeware, works better than the HTC EZinput. In my personal opinion, I prefer the A4&Hawon combination comes with my China Unicom stock ROM.
You can also take a look at this link: http://www.studiokuma.com/wm/?section=support Best thing about this: the instruction is in Chinese so you should do fine.
I haven't tried it on WM6.5 but seems to work for most WM6.1 ROM or before.
Good luck!
READ THIS FIRST
Finally Working Bluetooth problem
For ATOM/ATOM PURE ONLY
Download link moved to post #2
Step by step upgrading
NOTE: These steps only apply if you have an ATOM/ATOM Pure.
Basically, there are three steps to flash a custom ROM to your ATOM.
1. Choose and download your choice of custom ROMs
2. Flash the custom ROM to your Atom using the Device Software Update Utility (DSSU)
3. Flash the custom ROM using MiniSD
Preparation
Backup your personal information using a program such as PIM Backup (freeware). Also make sure your phone has at least a 50% charge. You need M$ ActiveSync 4.5 for XP or Windows Mobile Device Center for VISTA and 7 to upgrade your device through PC.
Please read through this guide and download the all the necessary files beforehand. That way, you know exactly what you're getting into.
Choose and download your custom ROM
There are many, many custom ROMs out there for the Atom.
Look through the threads and find a ROM that you like. Custom ROMs differ in their preinstalled software, system settings, performance tweaks, and more.
ROMs usually come compressed in a .zip file. Extract the downloaded ROM file to somewhere on your hard drive temporarily in preparation for the next step.
Flash Custom ROM Using DSSU
Copy the custom ROM file (usually came with 6 files) to C:\WINDOWS\Temp folder you just extracted.
Once you've got everything hooked up correctly, run the Device Software Update Utility (DSSU).exe program inside of the C:\WINDOWS\Temp folder you just copied. Follow the onscreen instructions to flash the custom ROM to your phone. Reboot your phone at the end and you're finished. Enjoy the new custom ROM!
In case you can't update the ATOM in active mode, you may need to update by entering bootloader mode. Hold the down power and camera button and use your stylus to press reset button at the same time until you see monochrome bootloader screen. Then connect your phone via USB cable to your computer.
Follow the onscreen instructions to flash the custom ROM to your phone. Reboot your phone at the end and you're finished. Enjoy the new custom ROM!
Flash Custom ROM Using MiniSD
*Not recommended
Here's the step how to flash your Atom using MiniSD.
1. Extract downloaded custom ROM to somewhere on your harddrive.
2. Cut first 12byte header of diskimage_Ver.nb0 using hex editor.
3. Rename diskimage_Ver.nb0 to diskimg.nb0
4. Rename ExtendedROM.img to extended.img
4. Copy both files diskimg.nb0 and extended.img to your miniSD
Now, hold the down power and camera button and use your stylus to press reset button at the same time until you see monochrome bootloader screen. The Atom will flash the new ROM automaically. Once it done, setup the device and enjoy the new custom ROM.
Big thanks to HelloWorld, [email protected], Tj's and all atom tester...
WM6.5
Build 28205
Mediafire Clean-New UI 04/23/2010
Build 21895
Mediafire Clean 04/15/2010
Mediafire Neo Shadow 04/15/2010
Build 23016
Mediafire Clean 02/15/2010
Mediafire Neo Shadow (Bluetooth not Working) 02/12/2010
WM6.1 latest WM6.1 Core OS
Build 21056
Mediafire Clean 03/08/2010
4Shared Mirror, thanks to Vincentshjuan
Build 21054
Mediafire Clean 02/19/2010
Upgrade instruction:
Download and execute downloaded file, if something goes wrong, extract it and copy all files to C:\Windows\temp.
If you already running wm61 or wm65 go for OS+ExtendedROM, for wm5 user go for ALL option.
Not expected for DONATION, but always appreciated it.
Thanks Glossy.....wow first one in line..........
Downloading now and will flash it later.....will update you from the try outs.
Good work though!
I'm wondering and really hope if this is very CLEAN, FAST & STABLE WM6.5 ROM in LOW BATTERY CONSUMPTIONS for O2 XDA Atom. Thanks before GlossyX1, you're the Atom ROM masterpiece too!
Wow! Great!
Thank you for this new build. Will try soon...
Have a try and gimme some report...
Gloss,
Tried for half a day now, this is what I have :
- overall, this built is much better than the previous, in terms of memory and battery
- overall functions and programs ran smoothly and no problems
- calls and receiving calls all good
- I can't seem to set the ringer mode to ring and vibrate but the phone by default now will ring and vibrate even if not set for vibrate, so no complains there
- persian blue works nicely to compensate for WM6.5 not able to locate any bluetooth device to beam
- Tested and still unable to sync/add more than 2 bluetooth devices, but at least I managed to get activesync working and also my handsfree, that's all I want anyway.
- taps and display are all fast, no issues there.
- booting from hard and soft reset are coming up nicely now
- one advice for user of this ROM is don't try to unlock the Extended ROM and use, the Extended ROM not very stable and when it crash, you will have problem reseting and booting your device, takes a long time and a few soft resets
But overall for me, this is a good, clean and stable ROM(forgetting about the bluetooth issue). Thanks to Glossyx1 and Helloworld1.............
Let's hope someone comes up with a permanent fix for the bluetooth issue, then this will be the defacto WM6.5 for Atom's!
vincentshjuan said:
Gloss,
Tried for half a day now, this is what I have :
- overall, this built is much better than the previous, in terms of memory and battery
- overall functions and programs ran smoothly and no problems
- calls and receiving calls all good
- I can't seem to set the ringer mode to ring and vibrate but the phone by default now will ring and vibrate even if not set for vibrate, so no complains there
- persian blue works nicely to compensate for WM6.5 not able to locate any bluetooth device to beam
- Tested and still unable to sync/add more than 2 bluetooth devices, but at least I managed to get activesync working and also my handsfree, that's all I want anyway.
- taps and display are all fast, no issues there.
- booting from hard and soft reset are coming up nicely now
- one advice for user of this ROM is don't try to unlock the Extended ROM and use, the Extended ROM not very stable and when it crash, you will have problem reseting and booting your device, takes a long time and a few soft resets
But overall for me, this is a good, clean and stable ROM(forgetting about the bluetooth issue). Thanks to Glossyx1 and Helloworld1.............
Let's hope someone comes up with a permanent fix for the bluetooth issue, then this will be the defacto WM6.5 for Atom's!
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What do you mean by unlock the EXTENDEDRom? I use this ROM for several days and found no problem on my device. Now I uninstalled PersianBluetooth to save more memory.
Did you found another issue? Has anyone else try this ROM?
I am in the road right now and im gonna try it tonight when i got home. one thing i would like to know if it is possible to install Spb Mobile Shell (current version is 3.5) and install MSkip ProPlus Elegance skin since I like this skin so much? if it is possible, what is the xda atom resolution based on the list QVGA, WQVGA, VGA, WVGA? sorry not familiar with and this is a bit off topic but I am consider sticking on this rom until such time that there is a solution for the bluetooth issue.
cwiggler said:
I am in the road right now and im gonna try it tonight when i got home. one thing i would like to know if it is possible to install Spb Mobile Shell (current version is 3.5) and install MSkip ProPlus Elegance skin since I like this skin so much? if it is possible, what is the xda atom resolution based on the list QVGA, WQVGA, VGA, WVGA? sorry not familiar with and this is a bit off topic but I am consider sticking on this rom until such time that there is a solution for the bluetooth issue.
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Waiting for your feed. I'm not tested yed to install SPB mobile, but there's no issue when I install another cab application. You have to try it by your self and give us a report. ATOM is QVGA device. thanks
Gloss,
What I mean by unlocking the Ext ROM is that I installed the unlock extended cab file so that the Ext ROM will be visible via file explorer or Resco explorer. Unless the cab I am using is not working properly for WM6.5(it's meant for WM6) but after I unlock it and became visible, I installed a few application on the Ext ROM to try, it was working fine until I need to soft reset the device(as some application do), then the Ext ROM is no longer visible and takes a long time to reboot(think OS can't get at the Ext ROM). Well, other issues is as my previous post, the ring mode can't set to ring and vibrate but it vibrates anyway. Then the same problem with bluetooth not able to add more than 2 devices still there. Otherwise I would say all is prefect.
As for SPB Mobile Shell, I tried installing it before under Helloworld's ROM(21869) before but does not work. The application installed okay but just could not get it to run, do not know why? Maybe some software conflict?
Add application
Hi Gloss,
Where or how can I add applications(.exe) manually in WM6 to the program or Today menu section? Is there a way? I am trying to add some other application like Torch Light, Chess games etc.
So far so good your ROM........(up till now)....
Vince
I mean WM6.5(this ROM)....
vincentshjuan said:
Gloss,
What I mean by unlocking the Ext ROM is that I installed the unlock extended cab file so that the Ext ROM will be visible via file explorer or Resco explorer. Unless the cab I am using is not working properly for WM6.5(it's meant for WM6) but after I unlock it and became visible, I installed a few application on the Ext ROM to try, it was working fine until I need to soft reset the device(as some application do), then the Ext ROM is no longer visible and takes a long time to reboot(think OS can't get at the Ext ROM). Well, other issues is as my previous post, the ring mode can't set to ring and vibrate but it vibrates anyway. Then the same problem with bluetooth not able to add more than 2 devices still there. Otherwise I would say all is prefect.
As for SPB Mobile Shell, I tried installing it before under Helloworld's ROM(21869) before but does not work. The application installed okay but just could not get it to run, do not know why? Maybe some software conflict?
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I see, you can't unlock the EXTRom as it is configured automatically in a file named config.txt. So, every chef has configured it depend on what it is configured in config.txt to EXTRom. Another thing, don't ever use other EXTrom but what is it included on ROM package, it wont work.
For the Ring mode, I can set it as usual in ring mode. Just go to setting->sound and notification->incoming call. Not working??? Try this, set to ring and vibrate, restart and set to ring.
Bluetooth??? Need some magic
I just tried to install SPB 3.5 and it works as well
vincentshjuan said:
Hi Gloss,
Where or how can I add applications(.exe) manually in WM6 to the program or Today menu section? Is there a way? I am trying to add some other application like Torch Light, Chess games etc.
So far so good your ROM........(up till now)....
Vince
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No you cant, while run standalone application (.exe) you wont see any shorcut because it not registered to registry and doesn't have any shortcut (lnk). You can try to build CAB file and set all shortcut in (initflash.txt) for eq to put TorchLight.exe then write it down Directory("\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\"):-File("Torch.lnk","\Windows\TorchLight.lnk"), it will show Torch on Start Menu->Programs
Try this to make a CAB file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400221
Yeap, learned that after unlocking it today....had to reflash again and the 2nd time I did not unlock it, all fine after that. I was hoping to use some of the available memory on Ext ROM, so no choice then.
Thanks for the link for making cab, will go thru the thread and learn some cab making...
Cheers and keep at it......good ROM there.....clean and stable! The way it should be!
So bluetooth handfree is not working again
vincentshjuan said:
Yeap, learned that after unlocking it today....had to reflash again and the 2nd time I did not unlock it, all fine after that. I was hoping to use some of the available memory on Ext ROM, so no choice then.
Thanks for the link for making cab, will go thru the thread and learn some cab making...
Cheers and keep at it......good ROM there.....clean and stable! The way it should be!
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Thanks, glad to hear you'd loved the ROM.
Hello glossyx1, i successfully flash my atom and i loved it. one thing that i encountered is that my screen goes to color white. so i need to soft reset but after a few minutes it goes to white screen again. any solution? tnx
cwiggler said:
Hello glossyx1, i successfully flash my atom and i loved it. one thing that i encountered is that my screen goes to color white. so i need to soft reset but after a few minutes it goes to white screen again. any solution? tnx
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It usual happen while atom run out of memory. My ROM preinstalled with PersianBluetooth, when you try to install custom home screen eq SPB then your screen goes white. Here is a tip for you: Try to remove PersianBlue and see what happen. I'm not recommended to use any custom Home Today screen because WM6.5 use more resource than you can expected.
dragon man said:
So bluetooth handfree is not working again
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I don't have any bluetooth device, test it by your self and give me feedback.
Cheers...
Dragon,
Bluetooth handsfree is fine, working. Only issue is choose your bluetooth devie wisely as you can only add 2 bluetooth device only at the moment. So for me, luckily 2 is just enough, one for activesync and one for handfree(bluetooth). The reason is after you added the 2nd bluetooth device, you can't see add new device tap anymore.
Good luck....
Hello everybody...
This Message I left on an other thread for someone who asked for experience in using this app on a wm 6+ system:
"Just tested pocket Radiologist v2 on a stock 6.5 system of the htc HD2 and ready to revive this thread by now!
1. ADOCE had to be installed - otherwise the executable of the the app ****s up the executing.
2. installation of adoce is a bit tricky ... switch the OS-language (wm5 or 6 or 6.5) to englisch (british) if you use a foreign system. finally restart & install ADOCE. no matter if you switch back to your native language after installation.
3. start pocket radiologist - works but...
4. on the thc hd2 the font/character size is wrong. the toolbar/list which should be docked on the bottom of the screen floats about the half of it. trying to switch the screen to landscape with bsb tools doesnt work. I'm very sorry for this now!
5. Tried WVGA Fix 4 already - the characters' still far too big..."
Anyone's got an idea how to fix this character a/o resolution-problem?
Hope someone can help in the end.
I'm using the palm version on the palm emulator, works ok. the images are not great
this is interesting as i was just trying to install an older version (for wm5) but was having no luck. states it installs, but cannot find any evidence on the phone that it is there. did you a) install ADOCE and b) then transfer the pocketradiologist .exe and run it from the phone?
jsmccabe78 said:
this is interesting as i was just trying to install an older version (for wm5) but was having no luck. states it installs, but cannot find any evidence on the phone that it is there. did you a) install ADOCE and b) then transfer the pocketradiologist .exe and run it from the phone?
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I did only the install procedure as described. first adoce, second the needed module. i installed it on main memory. execution after installation in that order made me no pain. i didn't transfer anything at all.
hope someone can solve the problem with this software...
Install completed succesfully, but I have the same problem as ppcppcppc (TS), so I hope someone can give input about a possible solution??
when i try to install cab from file explorer in htc hd2 it gives the message
"this program is from an unknown publisher.You should intall only if you trust its publisher.Do you want to continue?
when i press "yes" it gives me message that "installation of cab was unsuccessful"
i have enough space on my phone and memory card.
i have tried to download cab a no. of tomes
also this is happening with all cabs eg:fpsce,YAHOOMAIL
PLEASE HELP
I have the same problem! Need assistance!
Guys try installing this .cab to device. Then you should be able to install apps again
Nop, this cab also canot be installed.
Can't install or unninstall anymore..
I have the same problem!
Can't install or unninstall anymore..
Can you install from known publishers or is the probelm with only unkwon publishers?
* THIS * might help
it happens with all CAB's and the problem is not only with install, I also can't unninstall. Omarket, WM Market and XDA Market can't also unninstall..
It's a common application lock problem.
The solution that I always use is quite simple.
1. If you have Regedit installed and working use that one. If not download Mobile Registry Editor. Unpack the files, connect your phone through Activesync and open Mobile Registry Editor, you now should be in the registry of your phone.
2. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies
3. Change the value of 0000101a from 0 to 1
4. soft reboot
Works for me every time.
didn't worked
I had the same problem, tried everything but issue resolved after hard reset.
Cant install any cab
Im among many that seem to be unable to install any cab after flashing CleanEx ROM 6.5.x (sorry , I cant post there!) but no fix appears to be evident.
Has anyone resolved this?
click on a cab and nothing happens (Im well experienced at flashing, installation etc on an HTC Vogue NFSFAN ROM) but this on HTC [email protected] has me beat!