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GOT 720p clearing up the hack a bit and will release it most probably tomorrow
sorry for the confusin
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RP7LCIU4
here is the image
now thats the kinda stuff im talking about !
lets get some effort on this, gonna start digging thru the source now..
it would be awesome if we can get this working !!!!!!!!!!!
Everytime there is a new post, I check this thread, sadly its just motivational comments. If this happens though, we will have one more thing that makes the Nexus and even better phone.
Btw guys, the sensor is definitely capable of it. Like mentioned by the OP, it's just the encoding that is holding this up.
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Btw guys, the sensor is definitely capable of it. Like mentioned by the OP, it's just the encoding that is holding this up.
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What is the problem with the encoding to start with? I would much prefer to use the h264 codec to record video to start with, why does using it crash the camera app?
I think it would be better if we could get a constant bit rate for the video recorder instead, just like on the Milestone/Droid, rather than the frame skipping in indoor light conditions.
I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
But this is a good initiative anyway..
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I think it would be better if we could get a constant bit rate for the video recorder instead, just like on the Milestone/Droid, rather than the frame skipping in indoor light conditions.
I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
But this is a good initiative anyway..
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Thats exactly what I'm looking for in terms of fps. Made a thread requesting someone add the ability to records at constant 30fps and from my testing the framerate only drops when recording indoors or in low light conditions. The indoor lighting slows everything down but out side it records perfectly and smooth. If we can get that fixed by an android pro that would be great.
As for 720p I still think thats a hardware limitation somewhere in the lense or motherboard. If it was hardware possible, how come google didnt include that from the start?
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I also hope one day we can get a better audio format rather than 8kHz AMR in our video recordings :-(
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Just want to second this. The audio quality is pathetic and makes it useless for recording voice. It is one thing I miss from the iPhone. I'd assume that changing the audio codec and bitrate wouldn't be too hard for a good dev (which I certainly am not).
Records VERY well in ideal outside conditions, shot this the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPh9NQAiBPA
Haven't tried low light, but that is using MoDaCo A21 Desire ROM.
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Records VERY well in ideal outside conditions, shot this the other day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPh9NQAiBPA
Haven't tried low light, but that is using MoDaCo A21 Desire ROM.
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Yes I know it works well in outdoor lighting - the point was that it skips frames indoors.
From my experience of playing DSLR
the skipping in dim environment is probably because of insufficient CPU performance. When the light is dim, slower shutter speed and higher iso is required to obtain proper exposure, thus increase the noise. More cpu resource is needed to perform noise reduction. Then if the cpu is not strong enough, it skipps
If you take photos you know when you use high ISO and noise reduction at the same time, speed and the maximum frames of continuous shooting is usually affected.
So from my view, if we cannot improve the algorithm of encoder to achieve higher efficiency(which I think is quite difficult), then force disabling the noise reduction might be a way to solve this, although the video will be noisy...
just guessing...
along with this i was also working on 30fps and 44khz sound. the max fps i could get indoor was 26, couldnt test outdoor. i am testin the sound now. Hey and 30fps is a go but 44khz sound causes fc, will check the logs. Uploading a 26.176fps video recorded on my N1. IT STILL skips some frames but the limit is lifted from 24fps stock android
Great ...
I will try it out
BUT
Your screen shot says 720 x 480 ??
That is not 720p ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
The 720 refers to the height, not the lines
What you have is what is commonly referred to as DVD resolution (although really only for NTSC, as PAL is higher).
Incidentally ...
The Desire camera on the Nexus One can record at 800x480, but the I think it does it at 15 FPS and crap audio. 720x480 at 25-30 FPS with half decent audio would be very cool
Yes currently only 720x480. First trying to get decent video at this resolution. Then will move to increasing resolutions.
wow
480p to 720 p is a big jump
it's 2.67X data to process...
Nexus has the capability to do that, try recording a video on ur phone and see how fast it processes a 480p video. IDC if it takes a bit more time to process and if it can decode it it should be able to encode it. 528mhz magic 32a can record 640x480 so it should be possible for nexus with a far far better processor to atleast to 720p
anybody have the exact specifications of the nexus one processor, info about GPU and stuff, the problem on 720p is the excess load on processor which makes it hang and reboot
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anybody have the exact specifications of the nexus one processor, info about GPU and stuff, the problem on 720p is the excess load on processor which makes it hang and reboot
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This is what i could find in terms of info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576627
http://www.edn.com/info/CA6631784.html?industryid=48661
Not sure if it helps.
I also get the FCs with H264 but not with H263.
I would really love being able to do some slow-mo videos with my SGS2, any way to do so?
The camera simply isn't built for that kind of use. You could do it, if there were software, but the framerate would be atrocious.
Here's an app for playing back videos in slow motion...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.krovex.slowerVideo&feature=search_result
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The camera simply isn't built for that kind of use. You could do it, if there were software, but the framerate would be atrocious.
Here's an app for playing back videos in slow motion...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.krovex.slowerVideo&feature=search_result
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Probably the best and only solution. The camera was only built for up to 30fps I believe. If you know how slow motion cameras work (very high frame rate), you should see how this is a problem .
I'm bringing this thread back to life to save cluttering the board up with yet another similar one. I've been looking for an app to do the same thing and have, like other searching, not found anything to suit.
The reason I'm still chasing it down is that I had the Samsung Jet before my SGSII and even given it's age and utter lack of power compared it had the feature to be able to record video at high speed so that when played back it would be very good quality slow motion (25% speed if my memory recalls correctly).
Now, if that phone could do it so long ago with little native power and a poor camera then surely the SGSII could do something like that at the very least, even if the max video size had to be dropped to 640x480 or similar to keep the framerate more locked in?
Want that too!
Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
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Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
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I'm searching for this since a year from now, I think the problem remains in the drivers and not in android SO, there is one or two android phones that support is, but I dont know how exactly, if I dont misstake samsung galaxy note 2 and one motorola has slowmotion, I belive that they build a driver to use de camera as fast as possible, on other devices I think that is not possible unless some can build such driver, and that probably will need to do in some native assembler code of each device cpu and irqs, unless the company release that driver
the functions of android to get frames from camera are very limited to useless stuff and pre-set formats and fps
I dont know whats about with android 3.1+ or 4, maybe thats SO has this functionality natively
get fast fps from a ccd camera is not a MP issue nor too much CPU requeriments nor related to amount of RAM
with a windows mobile 6.1 device such samsung omnia i900, that has a 625mhz CPU and a 5MP camera you can record 120fps in 320x240, the camera of this phone has ISO 800 (it doesn't mean 800fps, but means that it can get a very tiny little power signal from sensor in a very short amount of time) but android cameras discard this features and incorporates functions very limited and related to normal users
8axter said:
Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
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I don't think you understand the concept of cameras well. The hardware determines whether it is 30 or 60fps and not the software.
For slow motion, the highest a consumer (or affordable) camera does is 1080p at 60fps.
There are cameras like phantom hd that do well over 1k fps but they cost 100k
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I don't think you understand the concept of cameras well. The hardware determines whether it is 30 or 60fps and not the software.
For slow motion, the highest a consumer (or affordable) camera does is 1080p at 60fps.
There are cameras like phantom hd that do well over 1k fps but they cost 100k
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Not completely accurate.
For a consumer camera, the highest framerate at 1080p might be 60fps like you say, but some low cost consumer sensors can do high fps at lower rez. My $100 Canon Elph 100HS from 2011 will do 640x480 at 120fps or (I think) 320x240 at 240fps. I've used the 480p120 option and it came out very nice for sports use, especially for reviewing batting swings with players. The sensor tech for fairly high frame rate at decent (480p) rez is not limited to >$1000 cameras, leading me to believe it's probably more software related. I don't know enough about the sensor in the GSII though.
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Apparently the Galaxy S II uses one of two identically spec'd (according to Anandtech) sensors from either Samsung or Sony. The Sony IMX105 specs are here. According to that page the sensor should be capable of 120fps at 1/8 sub sampling. I am not entirely sure what they mean by 1/8 sub sampling, but I would assume that it means using 1/8 of the effective pixel count or about 1M pixels. If all that is true, then the hardware should be capable of 640x480 at 120fps. Some assumptions there, though.
Can someone explain why the camera of xperia mini pro s17i is so crappy? Grainy? blurry? (can go like this all day).
seriously, is there a way to overclock the cpu to get a better camera result? or maybe even full hd videos?
tnx.
Its about the quality of the sensor, (ability to capture light) no way to increase quality by overclocking.
Same goes to video recording, restricted by the sensor.
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I'm sure there's a way that you can edit the sensor. Someone just needs to figure out what the app that's controlling the camera is and see if there's anything in there that can be changed. Tbh I thought the camera on the Mini pro was quite good considering its a small phone.
LOL overclocking the cpu will not make the camera any better
You can't get better resolution of your camera, but you can playback 1080p files
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I don't know why people complain about the camera on the Mini Pro. Sure, it may be grainy and blurry on low light conditions, but even digital cameras have problems with low light.
Here's a sample in a day light, I think it's amazing quality for a phone at this price.
the video camera is blurry, compared to samsung focus hd videos
Yeah I'm curious about the potential of the still camera for 1080p also, I have not read anywhere that the display can show 1080p...but surely if the video camera can take up to 720p...the display should be able to show that? Is our phone screen then 720p? Wherevere I read the specs of the phone I cannot find that info. Is it tied to resolution? We've got MDPI ... but so does the X8 and that is not 720p.
you cant record 1080p by overclocking because phone hardware must be capable to do full HD encoding, adreno205 GPU along with 1Ghz single core scorpion CPU cant encode Full HD video so unfortunately, Its impossible to record Full HD video on our devices.
People should stop posting questions without using google first.
Some display 101: the 720p,1080p,1080i are display resolutions of a said device. The number is the amount of vertical pixels and the letter is either progressive scan, or interlaced. So, our devices have 480x320 pixels. The "best" resolution is a 360p. I put " " because in the end its all about how the media file is compressed. From my experience anything over 480p is an overkill... You wont see a difference between 480p, 720p, 1080p. Just a waste of space. If you want better results with a video file download Mx video player. It allows hardware encoding.
About the camera. No you cannot change the way it works. Unless ofcourse you are able to engineer a CMOS sensor in your garage that is. So you can stick with what you get. If you arw find of night photos where it gets grainy, get a camera, rather rely on a camera phone to do your business....
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Hey guys, i take my phone on trips to take snapshots and videos are 2 of the list of reasons, the quality is pretty great when taking videos too but what bugs me is the 30fps limit, it doesnt semm to be 30 at all, its more like 24 or less because everytime i change the angle even slowly the image gets all shaky and blurry (nothing to do with the autofocus) that makes me think its something to do with the low fps limit but in case im not anyone knows how to avoid it?
Also when im taking lower resolution videos like 720p the fps is still 30, is there no way to change it to 60fps at lower resolution?
Thanks in advance!
At the moment its not possible to increase the framerate over 30fps.
I have a Samsung Wave capable of record at [email protected],I miss this capability in the Samsung Galaxy S2, I think it could do it at higher resolution.
If you cant record in stable 30fps in the Galaxy S2 look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443658
simon_sdr said:
At the moment its not possible to increase the framerate over 30fps.
I have a Samsung Wave capable of record at [email protected],I miss this capability in the Samsung Galaxy S2, I think it could do it at higher resolution.
If you cant record in stable 30fps in the Galaxy S2 look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443658
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Meh, many problems with this phone regarding camera, its such a shame it has so much freaking potential... and yet they decided to let it rot with its issues.
I guess ive learned my lesson with samsung, probably will go for Sony next time but i hate the fact that i wont get OLED screen.
Thank you for your reply and for showing me that thread
Have you Tried lg camera app? It has the option to record with more fps @ lower resolution. You can give it a try
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I have tried lgcamera and it doesnt work.
SloPro, a recent app for iphone4 can do [email protected]
Does anybody know where I could download high quality 2560x1600 native videos? I really want to see the Nexus 10's screen in full glory! I've searched on Google but couldn't find anything.
Thanks
On a side note: Am I the only slightly bothered by how 1080p videos look on the nexus 10? I completely understand why they look the way they do and in all fairness they still look really good but no where near as crisp on a native 1080p display. I guess the screen resolution is ahead of its time since no there is no video content available for consumer purchase above 1080p (at least from what ive seen). But I still LOVE the screen! :good:
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On a side note: Am I the only slightly bothered by how 1080p videos look on the nexus 10? I completely understand why they look the way they do and in all fairness they still look really good but no where near as crisp on a native 1080p display. I guess the screen resolution is ahead of its time since no there is no video content available for consumer purchase above 1080p (at least from what ive seen). But I still LOVE the screen! :good:
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1080p seems immaculate to me, not sure what tablet you're comparing too, but a high quality blu-ray rip isn't that distinguishable from 1600/1440p stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995176 has a 1400p video sample
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1080p seems immaculate to me, not sure what tablet you're comparing too, but a high quality blu-ray rip isn't that distinguishable from 1600/1440p stuff.
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Agreed, I ripped my Sky fall bluray copy to MP4 @ 2.5gb and it looks amazing
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youtube has 1080p video samples. youtube also 1440 stuff.
they both look amazing...
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Does anybody know where I could download high quality 2560x1600 native videos? I really want to see the Nexus 10's screen in full glory! I've searched on Google but couldn't find anything.
Thanks
On a side note: Am I the only slightly bothered by how 1080p videos look on the nexus 10? I completely understand why they look the way they do and in all fairness they still look really good but no where near as crisp on a native 1080p display. I guess the screen resolution is ahead of its time since no there is no video content available for consumer purchase above 1080p (at least from what ive seen). But I still LOVE the screen! :good:
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Timescapes.org. you can purchase it in the 1440p version... It looks AMAZING on the N10... There is a full 4k version but it is higher red than n10 lol