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I don't use the G-tablet as much as I expected, so I'm considering putting it up for sale.
My question is, do you guys think it would be more desirable to a buyer if I left the custom rom (calkulin + clemsys froyo), or should I return it to stock first?
In the past, I've noticed cell phones for sale went for more when they were unmodified versus ones that advertised "rooted + Cyanogenmod!", etc. I guess because some buyers don't like thinking that the previous owner was mucking about in ways that could have bricked it or voided the warranty or something. But with the G-tablet, the stock rom was so limiting I think people might prefer something that gives access to the market and a decent launcher.
I dunno- advice, suggestions?
Most threads I've seen describe the current ROM but also offer to wipe and return to stock before shipping. It depends on the buyer. But I don't think it will affect the value one way or the other.
Just my opinion but you really should flash back to stock. That way you can rest assured any personal information is removed. The new user can do with it whatever they wish.
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Just my opinion but you really should flash back to stock. That way you can rest assured any personal information is removed. The new user can do with it whatever they wish.
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You can format it as well and load a custom ROM.
Stickies clearly state not to post Q&A in General:
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Stickies clearly state not to post Q&A in General:
NOT A Q&A FORUM - Please post in the correct location!]
Moving this thread to the correct location
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Thanks.
In the future, this could be avoided if you guys had a better definition of what Q&A was versus what General is supposed to be for.
If it was a question like, "How do I root my device", that's clearly Q&A. From the name of it, I picture Q&A being more FAQ type discussions. Its a question with only a minor variance in possible answers, with a clear right vs wrong.
If the thread were something like "Does anyone miss the camera on HoneyComb builds?", its more of a discussion- encouraging a conversation on the matter with no clear answer of right or wrong. Wouldn't that be more appropriate under general?
I suppose what I was asking here is more like advice, which I think would more easily fit under "general" than Q&A.
But it begs the question- if the purpose of this moderation is help organize information and make it easier for others to find in the future, is this helping? I wouldn't check the Q&A section for information like this first, because I don't think the average user would assume it would be found there. I would check general.
Just saying- I've moderated forums before, so just trying to be helpful.
Well let's look at it this way.... Is this a Question about the gTablet? It goes in gTablet Q&A. Is this general discussion about the gTablet? It goes in General.
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Well let's look at it this way.... Is this a Question about the gTablet? It goes in gTablet Q&A. Is this general discussion about the gTablet? It goes in General.
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Well, lets look at it this way- the content does not necessarily have to be in the form of a question.
It very well could have been:
"The merits of selling a stock G-tablet versus one with a custom rom" and then shared my thoughts, while encouraging others to discuss. I phrased it in the form of a question because I find that people are more interested in joining a discussion if it isn't just some dude's angry rant.
That being the case, I would like to argue that this belongs in General. And that the definitions need to be a lot less vague to avoid this in the future. I see that you have that sticky post saying you had to move over 200 threads.
Did you wonder perhaps if there was a greater reason so many are "misplaced" to your definition?
Not trying to make a scene or anything, but I think there is room for improvement here.
EDIT: A quick follow up. More than half of the threads in "general" appear to be questions, and not discussion starters like mine, but REAL questions, like help fixing something or how to do something specific. Those, I would say, belong in a section like Q&A. Although I would still argue that the definitions need to be less vague here if you want your job to get any easier anytime soon.
First off you are speaking about something from over 8 months ago. Secondly, you feel so strongly about it being in General? Then edit your post accordingly and it'll be moved.
As a moderator we do this out of our love for XDA and for no monetary gain. We do not, nor can we, read each and every post in each and every thread. Most of the time we action things when they are reported.
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First off you are speaking about something from over 8 months ago. Secondly, you feel so strongly about it being in General? Then edit your post accordingly and it'll be moved.
As a moderator we do this out of our love for XDA and for no monetary gain. We do not, nor can we, read each and every post in each and every thread. Most of the time we action things when they are reported.
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this is one of the reasons why people left xda to rootzwiki... mods need to chill the hell out.
I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
What question do you have. Also if you read, the development forum is only for development, not asking questions.
You have no idea how many new members go in and ask questions that have been asked millions of times before or in the sticky that has BIG BOLD LETTERS ON THE TOP SAYING READ ME. And also 90% sure this thread will be locked anyways since it has nothing to do with the phones.
Oh to answer your question.
Since its an App, you're not going to find help on the black text because thats just the way the app is coded. Go complain to the developer of the app and not the ROM.
And by recovery console do you mean cwm? If so, have fun.
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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Sorry, that's a rough intro. I hope you won't be turned off by XDA as a whole. I try to keep things positive and look forward to seeing you around these boards.
EDIT, as to your questions, briefly in case this thread gets closed:
1) No easy way to change font/color behavior in a single app. As a workaround, you can hold finger over a list entry/item and read the text sometimes while it is highlighted. Some apps have theme settings for dark/light themes for exactly this situation.
2) I know modifying recovery is possible (Siyah kernel for instance) but have never seen one with larger fonts. At any rate, it's not a setting that can be changed on the fly.
I think they mean for questions like "how do i flash a rom" , "how do i return to stock" , general non rom specific questions. Any specific rom questions need to go in that dev's thread. As far as needing ten posts, find some threads that interest you in the general or q & a and comment on them.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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+ 1 its not hard at all to get 10 posts. Just look for a thread where you can comment.
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I'm pretty sure none of us are... But this is the rule for XDA that was set forth... 10 post is not a lot, especially comparing to some of the other sites that I seen out there. As of now you have 7 posts. Only 3 more posts and you should be good to go.
Keep it in mind the moderators/administrators here work hard to keep this forums nice and clean. So, new users can find things easier.
As some of the earlier posts and responses, they should already tell you what you can and cannot do.
As penguinlogik said, I would stay away from CWM. Or you will definately have a field day with it, that is from my experience.
Wait was that in the Q&A section that it was asked?
Anyways to answer your question;
The app was made for an unthemed version of the rom. When we theme stuff in the framework often times it directly effects some apps. Apps that are using framework colors anyways.
The only way to fix the app is to mod the app yourself or use a unthemed rom.
Theming is a tough job as it cant usually be done without effecting something else (app) unfortunately.
Hope that helps...
Thank you shoman, that was the first useful reply to my original question.
Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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Well said.
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axis01 said:
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question or ignore it. Especially when its in the q&a.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question....
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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But all this *****ing is just as useless.
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That dude was not nice... I had the same problem when started into xda, search results had no answer for my specific dilemma, and I had to make 10 posts before being able to get a real answer for my initial question. But it helped me out, cause now I use search all the time when I got questions and haven't had anyone scold me over my posts, but all that aside this is a very useful forum. Enjoy XDA!
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
Then I suggest you read the sticky thread and look at the FAQ and look in the Iscrewed thread for your answers. Just because you cant post to ask your probably already answered question, dosent mean you get to start a new thread about it.
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I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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Why do people keep posting questions in the general thread?
The same reason they post in development.
They didn't watch the noob video before signing up for an account
Maybe xda should have shark week like something awful does?
They smell like pepper and wear bells around their necks
(Don't ask me for help as I couldn't care if your phone explodes, eh!
I like roasts. Like the one they did on Charlie Sheen. Classic.
They just ban people left and right for any little thing for a week straight. After that week though they are allowed to pay and come back. There are even little notes on their comments saying "this person got put on probation for this comment" and "this person got banned for that". I lay low for that week.
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Why do people keep posting questions in the general thread?
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I've noticed that when you create a new thread there's a check box asking if it's a question, and if you check that when creating a thread in the development forum it immediately tells you that it's not a Q&A forum and you are breaking the rules. I don't see why that check couldn't be added to the General Forum as well, but it does depend on users noticing that and actually checking the box.
Forums on other websites do a search for similar threads based on the title of the new post. If XDA would implement that, the results could also give some very brief guidelines on where to post a new thread, and I think that would help.
ramjet73
It should be on the general thread. The accessories and themes & apps threads also for that matter. If they just posted where they want and got flamed it would Anarchy rawr ANARCHY!
I think most are junior members. We have to nurture the noobs, love on them, and show them the ways of the force.
Now, members and senior members deserve the smackdown.
Maybe ramjet can post a link to this thread every time he sees someone post a question in the general section. I would help, but I don't know how to post links from the app and I don't know how to work a computer either. Only the phone.:thumbdown:
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I think most are junior members. We have to nurture the noobs, love on them, and show them the ways of the force.
Now, members and senior members deserve the smackdown.
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Lmao Coal you must be missing a pet or something What about the junior members that have signed up like a year ago and still have like 4 posts? How do we know they don't lurk in the forums?
I think some users dont understand basic written english cause its not their native language. I mean c'mon! one of the first thing i read on xda was "DONT POST IN WRONG SECTION". how hard is that to understand
It's starting again. I feel the fear coming on.
And the migraines too. Hangover ugh...
hello guys im over new here
i knew that this forum has many gr8 roms for SGSIII i9300 therefore i joined the forum
but i have a small question
i went to dev section and found a rom and tried to post a reply it asked me to post the reply after 10 minimum posts, idk where to post them so i refered to this section for help, then i found another post saying why is that 10 minimum posts rule is there and the replies were due to noops who ask irrevelant questions and so on, but in my case i have been in many forums before and no such rules is found in them, so my question is why this rule is there where i have nothing to say in Q&A section, am i forced to post in this section or what exactly to be able to post in other section like dev section and thanks a lot in advance and thanks for creating such a gr8 forum
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hello guys im over new here
i knew that this forum has many gr8 roms for SGSIII i9300 therefore i joined the forum
but i have a small question
i went to dev section and found a rom and tried to post a reply it asked me to post the reply after 10 minimum posts, idk where to post them so i refered to this section for help, then i found another post saying why is that 10 minimum posts rule is there and the replies were due to noops who ask irrevelant questions and so on, but in my case i have been in many forums before and no such rules is found in them, so my question is why this rule is there where i have nothing to say in Q&A section, am i forced to post in this section or what exactly to be able to post in other section like dev section and thanks a lot in advance and thanks for creating such a gr8 forum
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if I understand well, the dev forum is for development (dev ), at least that was the initial idea, hence asking questions in ROM threads is sometimes not seen productive (therefore the Q&A section) by the dev as he losses the overview and might miss dev related posts. hence the limit .
chrismast said:
if I understand well, the dev forum is for development (dev ), at least that was the initial idea, hence asking questions in ROM threads is sometimes not seen productive (therefore the Q&A section) by the dev as he losses the overview and might miss dev related posts. hence the limit .
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so u mean that it is obligatory to post at-least 10 post in Q&A section for posting in other section ???
All answers can be found by coming in through the front door, reading the rules and taking time to familiarize yourself with the forum. It is a huge forum with several million users and the rules exist in order to keep things orderly.
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All answers can be found by coming in through the front door, reading the rules and taking time to familiarize yourself with the forum. It is a huge forum with several million users and the rules exist in order to keep things orderly.
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ok thanks, nd i'll
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I would like to direct this to the Moderators or any other higher ups that need to get involved.
This Q&A Bot thing is rediculous.
It is posting in seemingly every device for every rom. Stating to direct all questions in regard to a rom in Q&A sections in order to keep development from getting clogged up.
All its doing is clogging up Q&A.
I thought the concept was, if it is a question within regards to a specific rom, that's what the thread is for?
If it is a device specific question, then it goes to Q&A?
When you click to view Q&A Bot profile, it comes up invalid. Is this a new system generated thing to organize the threads better?
Not working. To me it is just as bad as having an ad pop up.
Honestly, I find myself wanting to come on here less. I come here in attempt to help others if I can. An attempt to return favors that others have done for me. What is the point of Q&A Bot to create a thread it cannot support or will not respond to?
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The Q&A bot only comes into action when a new user tries posting in the development section. As you know, new users can't post in development threads. So the Q&A bot makes a new thread in the Q&A section so the new users post can be read.
I can see where xda thinks this is a way of getting newbies heard and keeping development threads clean. But when you boil it all down it actually creates clutter and disarray. Because after all isn't XDA a development site? Therefore all threads here are considered development threads in my opinion.
In my opinion only recognized developers should be able to post in development threads. All development posts should have links to respective Q&A threads. Leaving development threads clean of everything but the dev's posts. This way the dev can post tweaks, bugs and tips that are easily found without going thru 100's of posts to find solutions. The dev can monitor the Q&A thread and answer questions there. When a valid question arises the dev can answer it in the Q&A thread. Then make an update post in the development thread.
What do you think?
If only people with "RD" status can post in the dev section this device and a lot more others would be pretty boring to own. I agree with @captemo those threads are cluttering the place up and are a bit annoying, plus I thought there was a 10 post count rule that prevented new users to post in the dev section? is that rule no longer in place or something or is it being circumvented in some way? I get the point of those threads in order to help out new users get the advice they seek and all but honestly its seems like a lot of users now a days don't bother to read a few pages of a thread let alone use the search function , and want to be spoon fed. Not trying to be a d-bag or any thing like that but it gets a bit out of hand at times seeing the answer they seek is just usually a few pages back from the last one. OK my ranting is over lol....
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i agree with some of what all you have said...but with that said.
our Q&A section is already a mess. The only one ive ever seen that wasnt is in the epic 4g touch forum, and thats because they had a member create a noob friendly support thread for all questions and roms. And the members,myself included, made sure questions were posted there and not just making a new thread for questions that have been asked and answered. It also allowed the more experienced members to have a place to help that was easy to find and point noobs in the right direction.
if you guys are interested in starting and supporting such a thread. i would look at the e4gt thread for ideas how to set it up...or u can look at the one i made and support in the galaxy tab 10.1 forum. Here is the Link to mine, as i cant seem to get a mod over there to sticky it.
These threads should give you all a nice idea about how a similar thread here would help, if used and a mod stickies it so it is always seen by new members.
as im soon departing this forum for a new device..i will not start such a thread. But will always stop in to help support it.
Have a great day,
Gil81 ( John )