When running GPS apps the phone is fine (eg Google maps, Tomtom) but once Igo has been used all other apps fail to find the GPS untill a restart (as though it locks down the GPS to itself), this is with official and custom roms, also the likes of GPS gate. The same install of GMaps and Igo however work fine on my womans HD2 :/ anyone else witnessed this or have a cure for it?
Same problem here!
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
Pere said:
After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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I paid for my smartphone, I paid for iGO8 and now I shall pay for this?
Better a few soft resets per day than pay!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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Thanks for the replies, but with both,
[gps]
source="virtserial"
and GPS gate I still have other GPS software fail to find the GPS device after using Igo (though mine doesn't crash out on multiple runs) Tomtom, Gmaps etc all live happily next to each other, though GPS Gate is needed for Tomtom, and as said the same software taken straight from my phone and placed on the partners HD2 doesn't suffer the same problem. I also am running atm FFBoys custom rom and that allows me to change the default port the GPS device is found on so no more com9 issues are suffered either, and the rteset is a pain especially infront of dodgy iPhone users
Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff. Never liked that proggie anyway. Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
Jonous said:
Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff.
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Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception!
Besides, there is already a version 3.10 around. Checkout at handheld (dot) softpedia (dot) com.
Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
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No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception! Regards!
No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
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Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all? This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded. Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data. I had problems of gps disconnections with stock rom and also with radio 5005.1600 and i had to reset my phone to get signal again. Realy annoying and led me to assume that i had a defective phone. That was not the case. First of all that problem appeared while in gsm mode but when i turned to 3g signal was steady and never lost it. Now after having tried several different radios i have found one that suits me with great call sound quality, another problem with the stock rom, and also gps signal wthout disconnections in both gsm and 3g mode.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests? I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems. Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens. I also have the program in an original sd card but i cannot be limited to the small capacity of the 2gb card and unfortunately i cannot copy the original card to a bigger capacity card either because it's protected. So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
Hi!
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Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all?
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As I said: if I install GPSModDriver instead of using the [gps]-command in the SYS.TXT I can set the COM-port and iGO8 will detect a GPS-receiver there. But that's all. It will blink green and pick up no satellites. And trust me, I waited 30 minutes just to make sure! Once I switched back and put [gps] back into SYS.TXT it worked at once!
This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded.
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I haven't done too much testing yet, since I'm still using my old navigation system. But over the weekend I will try and see if the current configuration works properly over a longer period of time.
Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data.
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If I restart iGO8 without a soft reset in between it will always crash back to the today screen after loading to the cockpit screen. Worse, if I try that several times it may enter a "death cycle" where iGO8 restarts over and over again until I press and hold the on/off-button for the TG01 to shut down.
Interestingly in the short time span where iGO8 is completely loaded you CAN see the yellow spots on the GPS-detection (cockpit screen) which means that it picks up satellites! But the next second it will freeze, crash and then overwrite the graphics onscreen with the today screen. An error log would maybe help here.
and led me to assume that i had a defective phone.
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My TG01 is a used one but from a reliable trader. So, I don't think that it is the smartphone itself but a problem involving either the software or the driver/driver support.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests?
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Not yet! I switched back to an official ROM released by Toshiba after I concluded that maybe there was a problem, but the errors/solutions remain exactly the same.
Since I'm not the biggest fan of their pre-installed software package, I switched back again to "pure" WM 6.5 provided by Nokser.
I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems.
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I'm using: Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens.
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Since I own two legally purchased licenses of iGO8 (1x PDA, 1x PNA) I'm always doing a bit of "beta testing".
Same results! The 8.32.x version I tried actually behaved even worse than the 8.34.x version I've been using for some time now!
So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
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To the heroic "pirate hunters" out there we're already "pirates" because we talk on this forum and dare to do stuff with (and to) our hardware (and software) that we're not allowed AND supposed to.
Hell, even attempting to flash another ROM onto this device will cancel any warranty!
Regards!
Testing complete!
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra ProEdition WM ® CE OS 5.2 23569 - Build 23569[20/06/2010][GERMAN] (by Nokser)
- Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
- iGO8 8.3.4.142975 (May 11 2010)
- no gpsmodriver or other similar software/driver installed
- SYS.TXT with [gps]-command added
And here are the results:
- Within city limits the GPS-reception worked perfectly! Fast, strong and responsive. I tested it for about 30-45 minutes. No glitches, no hang-ups. TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.
- Once entering the motorway and speeding up the GPS-signal was lost within 20 minutes - at a speed of about 120-150 km/h. It did not re-establish and after awhile iGO8 even lost the GPS-receiver itself - red light blinking! When I restarted iGO8 (without a soft reset) it would find the GPS-receiver and satellites again for about 20-30 seconds, than crash back to the today screen.
- After a soft reset and at high speed (150km/h) on the motorway iGO8 would find the satellites again than lose them after about 30-60 seconds. Same behaviour as above.
- Returning within the city limits and after a soft reset, everything worked just fine again until the very end of the trip (another 30 minutes).
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Additional testing during the trip:
I also have an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) which I connected it to the TG01, removed the [gps]-command from SYS.TXT and started iGO8. No problems here!
Same during any part of the trip - perfect GPS-reception, no glitches or hang-ups.
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Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
While all help is appreciated, the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS! A soft reset cures that, but still it seems to be Igo holding onto the port some how and denying everything else access to it, be it Tomtom, Google maps, GPSGate etc on official and cooked roms.
ZedEx48K said:
the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS!
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We have a common goal! If someone finds out what's causing iGO8's behaviour there may be a fix around that helps both of us.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra......TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.......
Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
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I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
Thank you!
Pere said:
I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
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I'm already wondering what kind of driver GPSGate provides in this case that makes running GPS-dependent software so obviously less problematic than the standard WM-setup!
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
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I actually have two options for TMC-support! First of all an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) that comes with a TMC-receiver integrated. It's the Royaltek RTG-2000. I got it new for 25 Euros quid from eBay. Reception is very good (in both cases)! There are only two disadvantages: 1. It uses a plugin antenna (wire aerial) for TMC-reception you have to setup every time you use it first. 2. The proprietary (and rather hard to change) accu it comes with is only 650mA which means it doesn't last very long without recharging!
The other is option is also bluetooth-based and directly connected to my car radio. It's called Navilock TMC Y-Adapter. This one's a bit more elegant, since it's directly wired to the car radio's antenna and power supply and thus disappears completely and doesn't need any extra setup. It's also much more expensive at 55-65 Euros. But the TMC-reception is excellent and it works like a charm. Well, ok, iGO8 3.2x versions will not be able to detect it, and I have to use version 3.4x instead!
Regards!
Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
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Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
ZedEx48K said:
Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
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Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Let me get this straight: Only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work. But if I start and use iGO8 first the other two won't?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
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Yes! GPS programs work happily all day long one after another (the ones I use anyway), once Igo8 has been used nothing else will work again till a reset (though Igo8 will continue to work).
2 things of note, I am currently running IGO8 Ver 8.3.2.124260 (Dec 16 2009), does anyone know where to get the latest *cough* version for testing reasons?
Secondly no matter what port I set IGO to (1 to 9) IGO finds the GPS on everyone of them!.....??
So is it the phone or the IGO version at fault?
zar1967 said:
Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
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GPSGate allows to use two or three (even more depending the memory usage) GPS dependent software AT THE SAME TIME. For instance you can use Igo and grab your itinerary on COMPE GPS simultaneously!!
(Remark: I'm not a GPS Gate employee )
Best Regards
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Hey all,
I have my athena for a couple of days now but I still can't get the GPS to position. As it is a T-mobile Ameo I used Oprio's Unlocker first. Everything went fine and now I can use it with every SIM. Then I upgraded with the WM6 Dopod U1000 and so far so good. The only thing that worries me is that I can't get the GPS to work. I tried both OziExplorer and Googlemaps, also BeelineGPS and GPSTuner. None of these programs can find a satellite and obtain a position. Am I missing some settings or maybe there are no satelites over my area?
OPp and something else that bothers me. Is the Status Display just not working under WM6 or it's only by me so?
I have the x7500/Advantage and GPS works after updating to WM6. I haven't yet unlocked my phone because i'm waiting for the cooked ROM's to be released before I go through this.
Have you installed maybe some other software that uses GPS and see what happens or are you trying it with just one program?
have you changed the gps settings in start-settings-system-external gps?
I use software-none hardware-5 baud-9600 tick-manage auto.
run quickgps first before you try any of your programmes,and let it update, this will give your progs satellites to look for and speed things up a bit, it does take some time to get a fix.
you haven't tried selecting it as a sirf-star have you? that will stop it working and need the battery leaving out for a while..
fards said:
have you changed the gps settings in start-settings-system-external gps?
I use software-none hardware-5 baud-9600 tick-manage auto.
run quickgps first before you try any of your programmes,and let it update, this will give your progs satellites to look for and speed things up a bit, it does take some time to get a fix.
you haven't tried selecting it as a sirf-star have you? that will stop it working and need the battery leaving out for a while..
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yep I tried both COM5 and COM4 with 4800/9600, also ran the QuickGPS.
What do you mean by selecting it as a sirf-star?
some software (for example memory map navigator) gives you the option to select different types of gps receiver protocols, there are a few. garmin, navman, magelan, sirf, nmea,
nmea is what the 7500 uses, but if you select sirf-star then it appears the gps shuts down, and the best way of restoring it at present is to either take the battery out or if you're lucky just hard reset it.
I did this
No, I haven't selected sirf. Is there some simple GPS software just to try whether the integrated GPS is working? Could it be just that there are no satellites over my area?
Come on guys, tell me how you get your GPS to work. Should I go back to WM5 or maybe change the Radio ROM? All the programs I tried still can't find any satellites? Any suggestions for other settings?
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No, I haven't selected sirf. Is there some simple GPS software just to try whether the integrated GPS is working? Could it be just that there are no satellites over my area?
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I don't have an answer for you, but I can tell you that the GPS satellite system covers the whole planet, so there are some over your area. Sounds like it could be a hardware problem.
Hmm I know but althoufh I am in the city centre it shout find at least 1-2 satellites. Maybe I should go somewhere out of the city and try there. I still doubt that there's something wrong with the settings or the software.
i had the same problem, using AMEO, unlocked using olipro unlocker.. GPS never worked afterwords .. the SIRFbootloader section in the ROM isn't updatable getting a communication error and that is it. I've to return it to T-mobile.. don't know how to remove the Olipro bootloader and how i can get back the original T-mobile rom!
Hope your problem is fixable .. as mine isn't
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i had the same problem, using AMEO, unlocked using olipro unlocker.. GPS never worked afterwords .. the SIRFbootloader section in the ROM isn't updatable getting a communication error and that is it. I've to return it to T-mobile.. don't know how to remove the Olipro bootloader and how i can get back the original T-mobile rom!
Hope your problem is fixable .. as mine isn't
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I did upgrade to Olipro, but I have bever seen any communcation errors. As far as I can tell, every upgrade went fine. My GPS works in 2% of the cases, it takes forever to get a fix, and after even the slightest displacement or move, the fix is gone again.
I am not getting any communications errors. I did all all the settungs as shown on this site http://www.x7501.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1184315093/0
and f.e on Google maps it just shows "Seeking GOS satellites (0)"
On the BeelineGPS I get "Fix not available" and a red circle blinks.
I really don't know what to try more. Maybe should I flash another Radio ROM or get back to WM 5.0? Any other suggestions?
mine too after upgrading to WM6, my quickGPS is not able to download the satellite data via Activesync. i used to be able to do so on WM5... whats wrong?
try this!!
Unplug battery then plug it again, this will help your mobile like factory reset !
lucky
mobiles said:
Come on guys, tell me how you get your GPS to work. Should I go back to WM5 or maybe change the Radio ROM? All the programs I tried still can't find any satellites? Any suggestions for other settings?
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For tests I am using old small app which was fro PPC2003. It works fine with my Advantage X7500 on Com4 and 4800 baud rate in WM6. It usualy starts showing satelites after 1 minute or so.
I have attached it here.
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I never tried to use quickGPS via ActiveSync. I use vsta. However it works fine and downloads GPS inf via WLAN/GPRS/UMTS or what is actualy available.
Did you do step 2 and three of Olipro Unlock
Step 2 Sends A Radio Rom to Unlock and step 3 a Rom tha make your GPS work again
It says so in the Olipro Unlock Documentation
I've read just about every GPS related post on this board, and I haven't found a solution.
I've got a Verizon XV6800 with DCD 3.2.3 (also tried 3.2.2) Radio version 3.42.30 (also tried 3.39.10 and 3.42.02) with Bootloader 2.47 (also tried 2.40). I've done the titan GPS fix. I have never gotten a GPS lock on even one satellite! I've tried this in the middle of a parking lot on a clear day while standing outside my car for 30 minutes.
I'm looking at GPSViewer (holux) and it sometimes shows satellites (not locked; in red) but after about a minute that disappears and I get nothing. The Satellite's always show over the N on the "GPS Status" page. GoogleMaps never shows a satellite only "Searching for Satellites (0)..."
Now I've just noticed that I'm indoors (in the middle of a building) and GPSViewer still occasionally shows a satellite (in red) and then it disappears.
I've tried the *228,2 and the *22899, I've flashed the radio rom with bootloader 2.40 and 2.47.
Can anyone think of anything else to try? Is it just me?
Thanks in advance.
121mhz said:
I've read just about every GPS related post on this board, and I haven't found a solution.
I've got a Verizon XV6800 with DCD 3.2.3 (also tried 3.2.2) Radio version 3.42.30 (also tried 3.39.10 and 3.42.02) with Bootloader 2.47 (also tried 2.40). I've done the titan GPS fix. I have never gotten a GPS lock on even one satellite! I've tried this in the middle of a parking lot on a clear day while standing outside my car for 30 minutes.
I'm looking at GPSViewer (holux) and it sometimes shows satellites (not locked; in red) but after about a minute that disappears and I get nothing. The Satellite's always show over the N on the "GPS Status" page. GoogleMaps never shows a satellite only "Searching for Satellites (0)..."
Now I've just noticed that I'm indoors (in the middle of a building) and GPSViewer still occasionally shows a satellite (in red) and then it disappears.
I've tried the *228,2 and the *22899, I've flashed the radio rom with bootloader 2.40 and 2.47.
Can anyone think of anything else to try? Is it just me?
Thanks in advance.
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is Location set to 'On'?
External GPS Settings to COM 4 and Baud 4800?
GPS Settings correct in Google Maps?
Sorry, my mistake for not mentioning that.
Yes, Location is on. And Com4, 4800.
Googlemaps is setup to use the Windows GPS (Start->programs->External GPS)
are you positive you did the GPS fix correctly? if you open that port in QPST again and read from phone, are call the gpsOne settings as they were when you applied the fix?
Yep, all nine boxes are checked and when I closed the QPST and opened again, did the re-read and sure enough all 9 boxes are still checked.
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Yep, all nine boxes are checked and when I closed the QPST and opened again, did the re-read and sure enough all 9 boxes are still checked.
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i would try a reflash.
reflash dcd 2.3.3.
install carrier cab
reflash radio
check all settings
*228 2
*22899
theres no reason why that shouldnt work for you. if it doesnt, then there is a hardware issue.
something else you may wanna try is using COM 5 instead of 4. its a long shot, but on my first 6800 the GPS was on COM 5 for some reason.
First, did you follow this link here to the letter?
If so, did you try using HTC GPS tool like GC states here?
Com4/baud rate 4800/Clear Memory
Click Open, then click Nav. Init.
Then you need to wait for three or more red bars, then open the GPS program of your choice.
121, I attached the tool for you as well.
I did not try the HTC GPS tool, but the link you gave me goes to like 261 posts. I've read through most of them before, and followed #1 (I didn't download the third tool, the launcher, because I'm trying to use Google Maps, not TomTom).
Just tried the GPS tool and it doesn't seem to do much better. I see satellites for a little while but they don't lock.
I did not try the HTC GPS tool, but the link you gave me goes to like 261 posts. I've read through most of them before, and followed #1 (I didn't download the third tool, the launcher, because I'm trying to use Google Maps, not TomTom).
Just tried the GPS tool and it doesn't seem to do much better. I see satellites for a little while but they don't lock.
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Did you follow my instructions on how to lock with QuickGPS and GPS Tool?
My phone's acting very similar the sat's will be red and it'll take up to 30 mins to get a lock. The htc gps tool made it a lock a couple minutes faster but live search would take forever to start with gps tool running. taking 20 mins to lock makes it almost worthless. You should reflash and leave it running in your car or something for a hour and maybe you'll get a lock.
Hmm maybe I should make a youtube video of exactly what I do...because I'm noticing no issues.
I did try your instructions. Got two half full red bars, then they disappeared, never to return. The Information screen never populated with GPS location info and stayed in Mode 2, No position information for the whole time.
I will try shield's recommendation.
where are you located?
I'm still getting used to using mine but I'm wondering if the differences users see are the individual phones or the locations they are using them in. I bought a VX6800 a few weeks back and discovered these forums about a week later. I flashed my phone this past weekend (Olipro 2.40, Radio 3.42.30, and DCD 3.2.3). I then installed HTC GPS tool and Tom Tom 7 to start my experimenting.
My first test was HTC GPS tool in my back yard. It started picking up satellites after about a minute..then did red bars...then green bars..maybe two minutes total. I closed the tool and launched Tom Tom and it had satellites and was ready to go in about a minute.
Yesterday I launched Tom Tom in my driveway (front of the house ) before I left for work and it had a lock in the time it took me to enter in a POI for the train station. It guided me to the station and displayed accurate location and vehicle speed the whole way there.
When I got back to the station after work I launched Tom Tom to test it again on the way home. I waited a minute and it didn't lock so I started driving. I got halfway home with no lock so I closed Tom Tom and launched HTC GPS tool. It locked after a while and I launched Tom Tom which was then ready to go for the last leg of the trip.
This morning when I got in the car I launched Tom Tom directly again and it had a lock before I put in my POI, just like yesterday. I'm going to try again when I get back to the train station tonight.
I haven't reset or turned off my phone since I finished all of the flashing and installing this weekend. I'm curious if the GPS remembers the last satellites it saw or if I just have easy locking in front of my house and crappy signal down at the train station. As I get more into this I'll look into QuickGPS. I've also seen at least two threads mentioning reflashing the radio after flashing the ROM and setting up the carrier...I'm wondering if this helps as well and may give it a shot next weekend as I continue tinkering.
HayireII said:
I'm still getting used to using mine but I'm wondering if the differences users see are the individual phones or the locations they are using them in. I bought a VX6800 a few weeks back and discovered these forums about a week later. I flashed my phone this past weekend (Olipro 2.40, Radio 3.42.30, and DCD 3.2.3). I then installed HTC GPS tool and Tom Tom 7 to start my experimenting.
My first test was HTC GPS tool in my back yard. It started picking up satellites after about a minute..then did red bars...then green bars..maybe two minutes total. I closed the tool and launched Tom Tom and it had satellites and was ready to go in about a minute.
Yesterday I launched Tom Tom in my driveway (front of the house ) before I left for work and it had a lock in the time it took me to enter in a POI for the train station. It guided me to the station and displayed accurate location and vehicle speed the whole way there.
When I got back to the station after work I launched Tom Tom to test it again on the way home. I waited a minute and it didn't lock so I started driving. I got halfway home with no lock so I closed Tom Tom and launched HTC GPS tool. It locked after a while and I launched Tom Tom which was then ready to go for the last leg of the trip.
This morning when I got in the car I launched Tom Tom directly again and it had a lock before I put in my POI, just like yesterday. I'm going to try again when I get back to the train station tonight.
I haven't reset or turned off my phone since I finished all of the flashing and installing this weekend. I'm curious if the GPS remembers the last satellites it saw or if I just have easy locking in front of my house and crappy signal down at the train station. As I get more into this I'll look into QuickGPS. I've also seen at least two threads mentioning reflashing the radio after flashing the ROM and setting up the carrier...I'm wondering if this helps as well and may give it a shot next weekend as I continue tinkering.
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you should just soft reset your phone. more than likely the COM port is just locked up and needs to be released before it will work again. you should prime TT7 with GPS Tool or Google Maps to save yourself time. don't worry about any reflashing yet it sounds like you have everything already running correctly. just soft reset and try to lock with GPS Tool or another primer. when you close out any GPS apps, make sure you turn off the gps in the application then close it properly to help keep the COM port open. if you put your phone in standby while a GPS app is running or close the app with GPS still running, it could lock it up which needs a soft reset.
I use GC process and found it works for me. But as a Sys Tech Engineer I have found identical equipment does not all behave the same...
I do the GPS Tool, wait for 3-bars, Goolge maps, etc...and I get a lock. HOWEVER, I do a bit more. Seeing that this is Windows crappy OS I start with a full power down & up each day. Then I do the quick GPS to get updated GPS info (make sure you have a data connection going...ie open Explorer first then close it). Then I follow GC step exactly in another post as I stated above...connect. Sometimes it is about a minute or less but no more than 3-4.
Now I am very confident this works as GC tells us with the newest rom & radio. I am on rom 3.22 radio 3.42.30... I found for ME...I said ME and my area radio 3.39 (I downgraded to this one recently) gave me better results although his newer radio IS MUCH better than 3.39...as I stated before all devices look identical but they do not all behave the same..
The very last time I used it (this morning) I had almost instant lock with no primining; just launching Tom Tom. I'm not trying to troubleshoot anything at this point just experimenting and comparing experiences. If I don't get a quick lock when I get back to the train station tonight I will probably set it up to follow gc14's method tomorrow night and compare the results.
I don't know if I'll wind up adding anything valuable to this thread or not but when I'm looking to do this stuff for the first time I like to read as many details about other people's experiences as I can. I have a feeling in the long run I'll wind up using gc14's method as long as I get the same results.
Brooklyn, NY (NYC)
This is what I do to get a lock:
* Soft reset
* Connect to Internet
* Update QuickGPS
* Run HTC GPS Tool (Open port)
I do that or I never get a lock.
I have an XV6800, DCD 3.2.3, radio 3.42.30, and no priming software. I use google maps alone and get a lock usually within a minute.
I helped set up a friends XV6800 the same way, using the identical files (ROM, Radio, carrier cab, etc...) and he has the worst lock times. He can go days without ever succeeding in locking sattelites using google maps.
I would be willing to bet the devices are from different production runs and have one atom off in the chipset somewhere and that is the difference.
Thats totally a rant on my part, I doubt that is the actual case, but I notice occaisionally activesync pops up and stops my GPS from working. As soon as I close active sync and go to google maps and uncheck "use gps" and check it again it starts working again. I am probably crazy but so far that seems to be the only thing stopping my device from locking gps when active.
I am not very smart, but if the same files do not work on the same type, brand, etc.. phone then i would have to say that it must be some kind of small hardware issue.
Just got myself a TG01 Upgrading from my old SPV M700 I have installed Co Pilot on my new phone bot it cant find the GPS Signal on it
Google Maps works spot on
Any Idea what port it uses?
Its not COM 9 As i would expect it to be?
Thanks
Beau
Hi, i have almost the same problem i install difretn program on my TG01 i i have problem because hi cannot found a gps why
go here http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290500/tom-tom-on-tg01/
it's been dealt with few times
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
For most of these programs, if there is an option for what driver/source, choose intermediate driver, other than that, it should work without gps gate
for those that use igo8 as navigation software, to be recognized the gps receiver, just add the following lines in sys.txt:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
shortjock said:
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
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i found that gpsgate works like a charm as well
sadly its not freeware but you can try it out, it has a trial version
I am using NDrive .. and loving it ... so much nicer than the TomTom and Garmin.
GPSGate does work but there is another issue with the GPS on this device where it will lose the signal after a period of time and then sit there and reconnect. It does still work but intermittently disconnects and then reconnects. Apparently the same thing happens when using Garmin which actually doesnt need GPSGate, so nothing to do with the application but more to do with the hardware.
Be nice if this gets fixed when the next update comes out.
Won't hold my breath though.
I agree with you @zomig
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
RageCore said:
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
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OK then ...
Where precisely on xda-developers has the issue of the TG01 intermittently losing its GPS connection been discussed?
It is not GPSGATE causing this problem. I believe the problem lies in loosing reception for a second. Without a valid phone signal, the GPS fails to work.
Everytime I lost GPS, I also lost phone reception....
Basically what I think happens is this, somewhere in the software, if the phone signal is lost, the A-GPS is lost, the proper GPS chipset is shutdown too, which throws the GPS program.
Then the phone signal comes back, A-GPS gets a fix and boots the proper GPS up.
My idea is to disable the A-GPS as its useless anyway and get it working on a traditional way. GPS chipset only.
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
ady_uaic said:
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
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A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
No sound on Toshiba TG01 for IGO App,
I got the GPS to work with the Virt serial but I cannot get the sound to work at all. Has anyone got the voices to work?
BiG K said:
A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
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Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
Pere said:
Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
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Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
BiG K said:
Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
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My GPS works perfectly without SIM card..
hello! I am new to this internal GPS thing (I used external bluetooth gps on a qtek 9000 up till now) I tried to find answers on google about how I can connect my igo8 to the internal gps and I cannot find any useful one. could you please help me with detailed instructions?
thank you!
Hi. I have GPS problems with my TP. Rom I use is
Energy Rom Genesis (20th September)
Radio: 1.14.25.05
and of course with WM 6.5 build 23016 v 5.2.23016
All apps like GPS test, ChartCross GPS test etc. are still i trouble connecting to satelites. There are that columns, which may be up or down, depends on signal (i suggest) but i have nothing there.. numbers are changing, but no signal, nothing. I tried to install iGo and TomTom and Garmin etc, they found GPS in phone, set it, but then half an hour waiting and nothing happened. It seems to me that there are smoe problems with maybe WM 6,5? Since I have WM 6,5 installed I meet this problems. there were no problems such this before.
I had gps problems with eliterc4(winmo 6.1) with the same radio version as yours. after I changed to energy rom build 21864 (winmo 6.5) I get a gps lock in about 12 seconds..
so it`s not winmo 6.5 fault. try to update your radio to 1.14.25.35
Same here,
The troubles I had with GPS fix were not related to the ROM version. I had the same trouble with several 6.1 and 6.5 ROM's
After switching to radio 1.14.25.35 I have a fix within one minute.
Of course, don't forget to use quick GPS to locate the birds to get a quicker fix.
have you tried the official gps fix available on htc site ? That fix solved all my gps problems
When you invoke GPS Test, what do you see. Are there any bars ? If yes then how many and what's the reading of those bars.
If you do not have any bars, click menu->GPS setting. Make sure it is Com-4 and 4800 baud.
Try GPS test outside (open air) and see if you get any bars. If you do then see if they improve by time. Usually first lock take 2-3 minutes, sometime more.
Do report here, and I should be able to help you.
tahdor said:
When you invoke GPS Test, what do you see. Are there any bars ? If yes then how many and what's the reading of those bars.
If you do not have any bars, click menu->GPS setting. Make sure it is Com-4 and 4800 baud.
Try GPS test outside (open air) and see if you get any bars. If you do then see if they improve by time. Usually first lock take 2-3 minutes, sometime more.
Do report here, and I should be able to help you.
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i use port 38400 and fix is near instant from a cold reboot. with the .25.35 radio of course.
i use standart 4800 baud rate with com4, and before i start any gps navigation software i try to update quick gps, then run GPS tool to find fix and then TomTom or any other software
tahdor said:
When you invoke GPS Test, what do you see. Are there any bars ? If yes then how many and what's the reading of those bars.
If you do not have any bars, click menu->GPS setting. Make sure it is Com-4 and 4800 baud.
Try GPS test outside (open air) and see if you get any bars. If you do then see if they improve by time. Usually first lock take 2-3 minutes, sometime more.
Do report here, and I should be able to help you.
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I have installed recomended radio, and drove by car like 30 minutes around trying to get signal from iGO, but nothing. GPS test freezes on "GPS Starting up" GPS port is on 4 and Baud rate on 4800(It is responding, so not ordinary freeze, but I mean that its just doing nothing).
There are several columns with numbers under them (or bars I sugest this is what you think) Numbers are following: 32, 24, 29, 02, 22 ,18, 04, 11 and they change (but after few minutes they are in this order, and then again some other variations) I think, that one of variations is starting with 30 and the other with number 17 HDOP is still 0,00 and FIX is 1D.
Or what should I try ? I have been using iGO GPS when I was on WM 6,5 I think already, It was PROven Rom, but I dont remember which version, so i cannot try to flash it and test it.
One more thing- GPS test has been running as I was preparing for a drive (maybe 5 minutes) on a parapet of an opened window, But it didnt catch a signal.
I have found GPS fix on HTC page, I will post some new experiences tomorow, please If you have any idea, tell me.
Getting a fix whilst moving is normally a lot harder than if you are static.
The Raphael GPS is not the best and can be quite laggy.
Ensure that AGPS is disabled as this is not supported by most cell networks at present. Update the quick GPS software.
Find an area with a clear view of the sky and you should get a fix within seconds.
AGPS is noramlly the cause of the GPS not getting a fix at all.
AGPS settings can be found in Setting\System.
Cheers,
Beasty
GPS
Hello everybody.
I just adquired Raphael from ebay and was having the same problem.
Or i did, all solutions provided are correct but for this particular problem they are not.
In short, was its the problem ?
Well, both HTC screwed up the Raphael perhaps in the rush of lauching it to the market, to achieve sales. Both WM 6.1 and 6.5 will sufer from this so there isn't a safe ROM or Radio.
The procedure to solve this is this webpage:
http://eduardoarruda.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/htc-touch-pro/
Ain't advertising nothing and don't know if i can share this page like this, but i have done the procedure in my HTC Touch Pro, and it has worked, Tom Tom 7 is now working.
Try it yourself (only if your GPS stopped working).
Pro: Works pretty well, gps takes a little bit to fix on satellites ~3 sec.
Against: Hard reset only when needed, when truly needed. Or do everything again.
Basically:
1 - Update ROM to most recent and the best for you.
2 - Disable HDSPA, it seems that it causes problems in connecting to 3G network
3 - Yes, you can update QuickGPS and follow the rest of the procedure which shows the shorcuts to edit the registry and images to ilustrate that.
If its necessary i can translate it, but dunno whose credits its belong.
beast0898 said:
Getting a fix whilst moving is normally a lot harder than if you are static.
The Raphael GPS is not the best and can be quite laggy.
Ensure that AGPS is disabled as this is not supported by most cell networks at present. Update the quick GPS software.
Find an area with a clear view of the sky and you should get a fix within seconds.
AGPS is noramlly the cause of the GPS not getting a fix at all.
AGPS settings can be found in Setting\System.
Cheers,
Beasty
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if you're on AT&T, then use APGS
Also. if you go into GPS settings, make sure you have "auto" as port number.
NKTA said:
Hello everybody.
I just adquired Raphael from ebay and was having the same problem.
Or i did, all solutions provided are correct but for this particular problem they are not.
In short, was its the problem ?
Well, both HTC screwed up the Raphael perhaps in the rush of lauching it to the market, to achieve sales. Both WM 6.1 and 6.5 will sufer from this so there isn't a safe ROM or Radio.
The procedure to solve this is this webpage:
http://eduardoarruda.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/htc-touch-pro/
Ain't advertising nothing and don't know if i can share this page like this, but i have done the procedure in my HTC Touch Pro, and it has worked, Tom Tom 7 is now working.
Try it yourself (only if your GPS stopped working).
Pro: Works pretty well, gps takes a little bit to fix on satellites ~3 sec.
Against: Hard reset only when needed, when truly needed. Or do everything again.
Basically:
1 - Update ROM to most recent and the best for you.
2 - Disable HDSPA, it seems that it causes problems in connecting to 3G network
3 - Yes, you can update QuickGPS and follow the rest of the procedure which shows the shorcuts to edit the registry and images to ilustrate that.
If its necessary i can translate it, but dunno whose credits its belong.
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Just wanna say, that those editing of the registry are working for both WM6.1 and WM6.5.
Its essential that you update the QuickGPS, since without it, it wont work.
By the way, it took 12 seconds to lock on satellites. Its not the best, but its better than nothing.
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123talis said:
I have installed recomended radio, and drove by car like 30 minutes around trying to get signal from iGO, but nothing. GPS test freezes on "GPS Starting up" GPS port is on 4 and Baud rate on 4800(It is responding, so not ordinary freeze, but I mean that its just doing nothing).
There are several columns with numbers under them (or bars I sugest this is what you think) Numbers are following: 32, 24, 29, 02, 22 ,18, 04, 11 and they change (but after few minutes they are in this order, and then again some other variations) I think, that one of variations is starting with 30 and the other with number 17 HDOP is still 0,00 and FIX is 1D.
Or what should I try ? I have been using iGO GPS when I was on WM 6,5 I think already, It was PROven Rom, but I dont remember which version, so i cannot try to flash it and test it.
One more thing- GPS test has been running as I was preparing for a drive (maybe 5 minutes) on a parapet of an opened window, But it didnt catch a signal.
I have found GPS fix on HTC page, I will post some new experiences tomorow, please If you have any idea, tell me.
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Copy CleanGPSData.exe to phone (attached here) and run it once. Soft reset your phone. Try QuickGPS once again. CleanGPSData will reset your GPS.
Hello my friends. I just want to say THANK YOU. I would like to ensure you, that you are not wasting your time, though i am not responding frequently. I am just away, and can not access forum daily. I am trying to solve my problem using all of your advices, but I am still facing it... Now I am trying that .exe file, you attached, and tommorow i am gonna test it, so wish me luck. Thank you once more, I appreciate it.
123talis said:
Hello my friends. I just want to say THANK YOU. I would like to ensure you, that you are not wasting your time, though i am not responding frequently. I am just away, and can not access forum daily. I am trying to solve my problem using all of your advices, but I am still facing it... Now I am trying that .exe file, you attached, and tommorow i am gonna test it, so wish me luck. Thank you once more, I appreciate it.
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Have you tried the fix provided by HTC itself ?
When I first got my Touch Pro I was very disappointed with the gps support (well I was disappointed with almost everything). After numerous tests I have a combination that proves to be almost perfect.
1. I run the latest Shep rom (but I guess the GPS functionality is not closely connected with the rom)
2. I have radio 1.14.25.35 installed
3. I have the rilphone.dll from radio version 1.12.25.19
4. I have applied the GPS fix from the official HTC site
After these 4 moves I get a gps fix from cold boot in less than 30 seconds and sometimes it is even less than that.
The only small problem I still have is that if I am doing more than a 100 km/h on a high way I get a 2-300 meter lag. This lag stays almost the same up to 160-180 km/h. In lower speeds I do not face this problem. This lag I have figured also has to do with the port speed settings and I need to do some more testing with Destinator and iGO to determine the optimum setting. Most of the times I use the gps is for navigating down town where the speeds are low and so the problem isn't visible.
Since I am mentioning radios and rilphones I have to say that this combination also gives me the best signal reception and the battery usage is also low.
GPS lag
_crAss_ said:
When I first got my Touch Pro I was very disappointed with the gps support (well I was disappointed with almost everything). After numerous tests I have a combination that proves to be almost perfect.
1. I run the latest Shep rom (but I guess the GPS functionality is not closely connected with the rom)
2. I have radio 1.14.25.35 installed
3. I have the rilphone.dll from radio version 1.12.25.19
4. I have applied the GPS fix from the official HTC site
After these 4 moves I get a gps fix from cold boot in less than 30 seconds and sometimes it is even less than that.
The only small problem I still have is that if I am doing more than a 100 km/h on a high way I get a 2-300 meter lag. This lag stays almost the same up to 160-180 km/h. In lower speeds I do not face this problem. This lag I have figured also has to do with the port speed settings and I need to do some more testing with Destinator and iGO to determine the optimum setting. Most of the times I use the gps is for navigating down town where the speeds are low and so the problem isn't visible.
Since I am mentioning radios and rilphones I have to say that this combination also gives me the best signal reception and the battery usage is also low.
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Sorry for the time passed.
But after some reading and some tests, here it goes.
_Crass_ just go to your registry and change the value of PollInterval.
Its value can be 100 or 500, tested with 500 and it takes some to update its position, but the satellite fix is fast.
The value with 100 it does the job, updates the position a little bit faster but the battery goes also a little faster, which i would say its pretty normal, since the use of GPS always require battery comsuption above normal.
The HTC fix speeds up fix (at least for me a noticed it), and unlike said in other topics, it ain't the same as GPSCleanData, since when it coldstarts it still has some data of satellites (its location are still present into the the gps program and its uploaded by the program almost instant), so it aint clean. Regarding the same program, tested it, and its slows down or even makes it impossible the fix of satellites.
Regarding to this, i had everything done without the fix, and watched the signal form satellites and then after some seconds it fixs. But then i had to hard reset, and took the chance to try new ways to speed it up. Besides all changes made, htc fix applied, as soon at it gets signal it fixes. A way lot better than before.
Regarding the procedure heres a link to that same topic in xda-developers.
U cant skip any step, or it wont fix any satellite. only "play" with the PollInterval. Change registry, SR, apply HTC GPS fix and then update QuickGPS. SR.
Tests were done with:
-> T*mT*m v7.915.9196
--> Iberia Map 835
-> G*rmin XT Mobile 5.0.0.20w
--> Portugal&Sapin 2010.20
By the way tried TT, and then shutdown (the program only), tried G*rmin. Started normal and takes the same time both. No complication encountered by changing gps program or no need for restart/SR. If u encountered a problem where by changing gps program u cant put the 2nd to work, i recommend to update your program to the latest buil. Its working fine.
Regarding times, i had a fix of 18 to 20 seconds (why so much time ?), here's why:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Well, i only had time to play wih it today, so i did tested, regarding in clean weather, i'm expecting 8~12 sec.
Another important, the PollInterval was tested by changing each value and go from one point to another and see if the GPS program manages to update position.
It was tested with both values, and each time i changed i did a SR.
Any more tries, i sugest that u show your test conditions so "we" can compare results. I also think that HTC Pro suffers form different problems regarding to its use, so therefore it may not work to someone in specific.
My Radio: 1.14.25.35
ROM: WM6.5 PTG
BR
NKTA
The GPS Mod Driver can fix lag and more..
Mandragore said:
The GPS Mod Driver can fix lag and more..
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I tried, and it seems not having any much difference. I use TomTom with the GPSModDriver and Garmin with the original COM Port 4, i mean, one uses that driver and the other the original.
No difference registered, but if anyone that can at this moment hard-reset its device and test Mandragore solution, he/she would be welcome.
I have been reading the the posts and noticed a lot of simularities between the registry edit:
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Thanks for the report Mandragore, and for your support
Here is some information on the GPSID values (as I understand it, corrections welcome).
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver]
"IsEnabled"=dword:1 ; Set from External Gps\Access, Manage GPS Automatically, Must be 1 for GPS to work at all.
"MaxLogFileSize"=dword:0
"CurrentLogFile"=""
"OldLogFile"="" ; All three of these would just waste time and memory creating log files of all gps data
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers]
"InputBufferSize"=dword:0200 ; M$ allocates this to read the HTC driver
"OutputBufferSize"=dword:0200 ; Suggested size for the applications buffer size, ModDriver does not use this, but your application (mapping) may.
; A full string of gps data is 460 to 490 bytes long while fixed, CE likes things on page boundaries thus 512 bytes are optimum. Too high values just waste ram usage. As a side note, the M$ buffers allocated are probably done through a call to malloc, and malloc has a header and footer added to each call, so 512 might just waste a bit of ram, 498 might be a bit better).
"RetryWaitOnError"=dword:3 ; not sure if this ever happens
"SleepOnNoData"=dword:01f4 ; GpsModDriver reads this and uses it for napping between reads, data comes from gps at exactly 1 second, half a second allows for slight misses of the data. If we set this to 1000, it would be great, but a millisecond late, would cause an extra second delay. One could set it to a smaller value divisable into 1000 (1,10,50,100,200...), and thus reduce the delay when a string is missed, but then the overall proformance of the phone would go down.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Drivers\GPSOneDevice]
"PollInterval"=dword:01f4 ; M$ GPSID driver uses this to poll the HTC driver, same explanation as above.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer]
"DriverInterface"="COM4:" ; Set from ExternalGpsPrograms, GpsMod opens this port for reading data, m$ writes to this port
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\Multiplexer\ActiveDevice]
"Index"=dword:00000004 ; Your phone uses this to install the M$ driver port, set from ExternalGps/Programs at same time as DriverInterface
"Prefix"="COM" ; Required for serial port access to GPS data.
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I prefer edit each one by myself, avoids installing bugging or unstable software by third parties. Besides the fact its working ... pretty good for a very unperfect device.
GPS pretty fastttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Ok, first sorry for the new post. Its a question of startover.
Manage to try GPSModDriver,and here comes the twists.
Tried and there wasn't too much difference regarding the changes in registry that we have seen in this topic. So i decided to uninstall it (vcersion 1.32) to try the newst release, 1.36. Unforntunately, that driver its a pain in regarding unnistaling, this should the first issue to solve in further builds.
So i had to uninstall it manually, i erased the Mach2003 (on My device) threw File Explorer, and then GPSModSetup on /Windows, to it would it be possible to install newest build.
Its a long story yeah ?
Ok, its almost over. I tried to install version 1.36 and it wouldn't because older version still present. I dropped the idea of trying new version and went test my gps programs to see if they still worked.
Now here comes the twists.
Regarding my TT, went back to port 4 and everything is worked as before.
That's ok, 15~18 seconds ain't bad.
Now, Garmin turn. Garmin itself doesn't allow to change port that easily, and thank you for it. Tested with port 4 and the same thing, same time, whatever .... But, this was one of those days, when i feel like truly to screw something up, and whent change the port again and try something different.
Hell yeah, why not ?
So i change to GPS intermediate Driver. Not usual, actually all instructions says to change from this driver.
So the results: I have a fix on satllite with a HTC Touch Pro in ~ 2/3 seconds.
I used shake and save to take this pictures (images on this link):
Here i have GPS Garmin GPS settings working with Port 4:
Now here is the GPS intermediate Driver:
The signal strenght on start menu from Garmin:
Now there are certain things, that should be better be told.
In first, don't now why, but Mach2003 folder with two logs files are still present and being created.
Second, this was done with cloudy weather again.
Third, the signal is a little bit unstable changing a little bit, but i'm guessing is due receiving different satellite signals.
Here comes the ****** part, it requires more time and a lot of testing. Trying the registry tweaks and see if it changes the Intermediate responses. And trying the GPSModDriver and do several tests with one and/or another together or apart and see which one its the best, for GPS fixing.
For now, i'm quite happy with Garmin. TT its loosing since i cant pick that specific driver port.
Oh i almost forgot to mention, the TT is working with integrated device well, fixing satellites and everything. But is a little slower to receive the signal and fixing than port 4. I'm keeping TT on port 4 and garmin on Intermediate driver, and still working as a charm. Lol 1~2 seconds is too fasttttttttt.
So that bit** ain't dead yet !!! If we can see why and built a cab package inserting the wright tweaks on registry, it could put Touch Pro back on the spot light.
I don't know why, but i got feeling, that if thats truly done, HTC will launch a new HotFix doing the same thing. But its just a feeling ...
Just remembered, will try use CleanGPSdata to see if my Po is stll QickGPS dependent* ...
*Hello, my name is HTC Touch Pro, and i am ashamed to say,... , i'm QuickGPS dependent. I'm trying this therapy group so i can give up this insane habit ... its killing me ...
Have no time now, but tomorrow maybe may post back something.
Didn't stop raining in portugal, floodings and etc ...
Later i will post back something.
Cheers.
Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
(InsertNameHere) said:
Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Seconded Even after spending some time looking at the AGPS dimension, I've not been completely convinced that there wasn't something else happening - if it can be better controlled by a service management applet, that would be a very useful advance. Would also much appreciate if can be made available (or appropriate advice on config).
Best regards,
Kevin
(InsertNameHere) said:
Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Yes, I can share it with all users but it will be difficult to prove it really works ( You have only my word ) unless someone has found a way to "force" GPS service to stop working good. Usage is very simple. After You start it You get message "GPS service restared".
That is all.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
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Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Igo varients normally lose signal or find sats, then lose signal, radio 0321 improves things a lot for me, but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
(InsertNameHere) said:
but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
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Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
(InsertNameHere) said:
Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
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Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
I know it doesn't fix the problem but with GpsMod I can start IGo, exit then open Google maps (which is also set to COM2) then exit, then open something like PUTTY and use COM2 then exit and go back to IGo all without having to soft reset and every application working.
It would be great if we could get the gps to work as good an htc gps but for those having problems with the gps then GpsMod is the answer.
(InsertNameHere) said:
You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
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I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, i will test for you, no problem, and thanks, great work, run out of thanks right now. I am going to reflash to a different rom and try this out.