Just got myself a TG01 Upgrading from my old SPV M700 I have installed Co Pilot on my new phone bot it cant find the GPS Signal on it
Google Maps works spot on
Any Idea what port it uses?
Its not COM 9 As i would expect it to be?
Thanks
Beau
Hi, i have almost the same problem i install difretn program on my TG01 i i have problem because hi cannot found a gps why
go here http://www.modaco.com/content/toshiba-tg01-tg01-modaco-com/290500/tom-tom-on-tg01/
it's been dealt with few times
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
For most of these programs, if there is an option for what driver/source, choose intermediate driver, other than that, it should work without gps gate
for those that use igo8 as navigation software, to be recognized the gps receiver, just add the following lines in sys.txt:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
shortjock said:
I'm using gps gate for memory maps on my tg01, works a treat.
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i found that gpsgate works like a charm as well
sadly its not freeware but you can try it out, it has a trial version
I am using NDrive .. and loving it ... so much nicer than the TomTom and Garmin.
GPSGate does work but there is another issue with the GPS on this device where it will lose the signal after a period of time and then sit there and reconnect. It does still work but intermittently disconnects and then reconnects. Apparently the same thing happens when using Garmin which actually doesnt need GPSGate, so nothing to do with the application but more to do with the hardware.
Be nice if this gets fixed when the next update comes out.
Won't hold my breath though.
I agree with you @zomig
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
RageCore said:
haven't you read sticky psots?
its all been said before..-.-
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OK then ...
Where precisely on xda-developers has the issue of the TG01 intermittently losing its GPS connection been discussed?
It is not GPSGATE causing this problem. I believe the problem lies in loosing reception for a second. Without a valid phone signal, the GPS fails to work.
Everytime I lost GPS, I also lost phone reception....
Basically what I think happens is this, somewhere in the software, if the phone signal is lost, the A-GPS is lost, the proper GPS chipset is shutdown too, which throws the GPS program.
Then the phone signal comes back, A-GPS gets a fix and boots the proper GPS up.
My idea is to disable the A-GPS as its useless anyway and get it working on a traditional way. GPS chipset only.
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
ady_uaic said:
i don't use A-GPS and I still have this problem.
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A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
No sound on Toshiba TG01 for IGO App,
I got the GPS to work with the Virt serial but I cannot get the sound to work at all. Has anyone got the voices to work?
BiG K said:
A-GPS comes on automatically alongside with the proper GPS. You cannot specify it.
I have noticed that I loose signal when the GPS is running otherwise it's fine
I hope Toshiba fix this soon, it does get annoying!!
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Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
Pere said:
Dear friend, that's odd, GPS and phone are separated because if you switch off the phone (Fly mode) , GPS still works perfectly...
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Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
BiG K said:
Not on the TG01, which is the problem, when the phone is in flight mode (or no sim card) the GPS fails to work! Which makes me question if A-GPS which works through the cellular network has something to do with all the problems......
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My GPS works perfectly without SIM card..
hello! I am new to this internal GPS thing (I used external bluetooth gps on a qtek 9000 up till now) I tried to find answers on google about how I can connect my igo8 to the internal gps and I cannot find any useful one. could you please help me with detailed instructions?
thank you!
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
Have you tried with google maps. For some reason i can get GPS signal in my house with google, but not with live. Also, under the GPS hardware, does yours say none, and baud 9600 or 4800?
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Never mind, I got it working, live just connected in my house. I have baud set to 4800, don't think it really matters. (anyone know what baud is anyway, and what the best settings are?). I wish there was a way to do this without live though.
baud is just another word for bits per second, its the connection speed of the hardware, since its internal it probably wouldnt make much of a differnce
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
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I have everything working but tom tom 6. It says no GPS device what gives? Do you have to have Live search running in the background for tom tom to work. I close Live Search after aquiring five satellites then launch tom tom 6 and all I get is no GPS device. hehe I know this is a beta and not a release rom. I have no Idea how people can aquire a satellite in their home. Shesh I have a huge solarium and still have to go outside.
what do u mean you get five satellites? Also to answer your question, what i do is after getting the GPS fixture in Live Search, I just click start and go to Tom Tom, without doing anything to live search. It seems to close automatically when I open Tom Tom.
Does anyone know if the GPS signal comes via the Sprint towers or is my phone communicating directly with the satellites in the sky? I ask because getting a signal inside my house seems unreal.
GPS signals come from satellites which is why the signal degrades when you move inside, eventually becoming nonexistent or unreal.
When someone says they are getting five satellites it means that is how many signals their device is receiving and using to triangulate its position. It requires at least four satellite signals to triangulate a current position and the more signals it can pick up on the more accurate the triangulation.
Ks.
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
For some reason I always have to setup the GPS device in TomTom. It works but as soon as I close TomTom it looses the GPS settings. Then I have to run through the setup again...
Anyone else having the same issue?
My GPS wasn't working at all until I turned on GPS location under the phone menu. Location Settings under services.
Once I turned that on my GPS started picking up satellites with in 5 seconds sitting in my house.
Does Anybody know how to get the GPS to work with iGo 2006? I am having no luck at all getting iGo to recognize the GPS device.
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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Thanks for the update. =)
Cheers!
Livesearch.
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
fusQer said:
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
pflatlyne said:
I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I think what they do is place devices selectively in those locations that send out false GPS signals to confuse the NAV devices. (probably from ground based stations or on moving convoys that are trying to NOT be detected)
mshnayde said:
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
the automatic download from live.com hasn't worked for me for a while either. it gets to around 15% and stalls...
Has anyone gotten Garmin Mobile XT to work with the internal GPS?
I am going to hold off on Flashing and give DCD some time to mature the release since I already have a G10 bluetooth reciever and have no issues but it would be nice to be able to leave that in my car and use internal when I'm not in my own car.
As far as i know...these are govt sats that are "open to the publuc." In a state of emergency or other situation, they can be blocked or certain areas can be blocked so only, say, certain govts/military could use them. This was the only way the us govt was willing and able to let the gen pop use the sats.
Hi
Seem to be havin a great deal of problems getting the GPS to start in programs, like TOMTOM and google maps. I have installed and tried gpsplex and gps gate. and have had some connection success then nothing.
What are the best settings to have the com port on or none or gpd etc.
When updating gps position it will do sometimes then it says failed to save then it does sometimes.
Getting tired of this phone and weakening for the nexus one or back to apple.
search the forum you will find it.
Advice
doliver55 said:
Hi
Seem to be havin a great deal of problems getting the GPS to start in programs, like TOMTOM and google maps. I have installed and tried gpsplex and gps gate. and have had some connection success then nothing.
What are the best settings to have the com port on or none or gpd etc.
When updating gps position it will do sometimes then it says failed to save then it does sometimes.
Getting tired of this phone and weakening for the nexus one or back to apple.
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Set com port 4 in External gps,then set gpsgate. Enter Intenal gps and download(check your internet connection if on , if not, try once again,if still no positive result , soft-reset,try again.) After getting gps-data, power on gpsgate, check for incoming data(OK),power on tomtom, get in open air until you got a gps-fix(depending on certain factors it can take a while 2-3 minutes), everything should be fine.
Let me know your progress(or not).
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Thanks for the reply, ended up doing a fresh install of everything and after boot gps worked first time with google maps with gps on default setting of GPD9 in external gps setting, did the internal gps update over wireless lan as it seemed to work better than cell connection.
Installed GPSMod driver and bingo tomtom found it and everything ok.
But later after a few active sync sessions i went outside and again nothing off both google and tomtom, no sats found. Did a power down and again everything seemed to work, strange !!!. So that where im at, a not to reliable gps connection.
Dave
I was really frustrated with gps disconnections at first, was the only thing that bothered me in this phone, other than that i loved it. The problem is clearly a matter of rom's radio. When i had a rom with radio version 5005.1600.05 i had disconnection in GSM phone mode but steady signal and no disconnections in HSDPA mode. Problem fixed in 3G/HSDPA mode. Since i flased a rom with radio version 5005.1700.05 i had never gps disconnection problems in both GSM/3G mode. Problem gone!
If you have the stock rom installed, try turning the phone to 3G/HSDPA mode if it's in GSM and check again. But i advise you to install a rom with 5005.1600.05 radio version, great call sound quality and great satelite connection. I personaly found this rom Revamped Release 5 Loaded Radio 5005.1700.05 05/21/2010 best for me and will stick with it for a while.
The phone is ok, this is not a hardware issue it's clearly a matter of radio driver. Don't quit on this phone yet, it's a great device if you can cope with charging every day . But this is the case more or less with big screen-1ghz-small capacity battery phones, except if they have led screen
When running GPS apps the phone is fine (eg Google maps, Tomtom) but once Igo has been used all other apps fail to find the GPS untill a restart (as though it locks down the GPS to itself), this is with official and custom roms, also the likes of GPS gate. The same install of GMaps and Igo however work fine on my womans HD2 :/ anyone else witnessed this or have a cure for it?
Same problem here!
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
Pere said:
After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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I paid for my smartphone, I paid for iGO8 and now I shall pay for this?
Better a few soft resets per day than pay!
zar1967 said:
It took me half a day to get to the bottom of this. I installed iGO8 on my recently purchased TG01 and it would not find the GPS.
Obviously, lots of people are having the very same problem.
Solutions include using GPSGate, gpsplex or GPSModDriver. Those all seem to work with some people - or not.
I finally managed to get a GPS-signal WITHOUT any of these solutions!
By simply adding this to the SYS.TXT:
[gps]
source="virtserial"
When I tried it at first, iGO8 would crash back to the today screen! OK, second try, same result. AFTER I did a soft reset (for a different reason) and restarted iGO8 it suddenly worked (for the first time)! Hmm.
Once I started iGO8 a second time it would crash again. IF I deleted the [gps]-command it would start properly again - without any GPS-reception of course. Exiting, than putting the lines back in would also crash iGO8!
BUT if if unhooked the GPS-reception in the iGO8-settings, exited iGO8, inserted the [gps]-command in SYS.TXT and then started iGO8, it would work again!
After a while I figured out that a simple soft reset is also sufficient. Still a hassle, but not the end of the world.
Let's see if someone finds a more elegant solution!
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Pere said:
After a year using GPSgate without problems. A hundred times better than soft reset!
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Thanks for the replies, but with both,
[gps]
source="virtserial"
and GPS gate I still have other GPS software fail to find the GPS device after using Igo (though mine doesn't crash out on multiple runs) Tomtom, Gmaps etc all live happily next to each other, though GPS Gate is needed for Tomtom, and as said the same software taken straight from my phone and placed on the partners HD2 doesn't suffer the same problem. I also am running atm FFBoys custom rom and that allows me to change the default port the GPS device is found on so no more com9 issues are suffered either, and the rteset is a pain especially infront of dodgy iPhone users
Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff. Never liked that proggie anyway. Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
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Try this and most if not all gps soft should work without gates and stuff.
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Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception!
Besides, there is already a version 3.10 around. Checkout at handheld (dot) softpedia (dot) com.
Neither did i like the idea of secondary prog running behind. Phone does not need any help, it can manage on its own
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No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Thanks for the effort, but GpsModDriver does not work for me! Although it will allow iGO8 to detect a GPS-receiver at the proper port, there is no reception! Regards!
No one really knows why iGO8 and some others have these problems! Is it WM, the device or the software?
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Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all? This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded. Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data. I had problems of gps disconnections with stock rom and also with radio 5005.1600 and i had to reset my phone to get signal again. Realy annoying and led me to assume that i had a defective phone. That was not the case. First of all that problem appeared while in gsm mode but when i turned to 3g signal was steady and never lost it. Now after having tried several different radios i have found one that suits me with great call sound quality, another problem with the stock rom, and also gps signal wthout disconnections in both gsm and 3g mode.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests? I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems. Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens. I also have the program in an original sd card but i cannot be limited to the small capacity of the 2gb card and unfortunately i cannot copy the original card to a bigger capacity card either because it's protected. So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
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Hmm this shouldn't be. No reception at all?
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As I said: if I install GPSModDriver instead of using the [gps]-command in the SYS.TXT I can set the COM-port and iGO8 will detect a GPS-receiver there. But that's all. It will blink green and pick up no satellites. And trust me, I waited 30 minutes just to make sure! Once I switched back and put [gps] back into SYS.TXT it worked at once!
This sounds like the disconnection problems i used to have, eg finding satellites and receiving data and after a minute or so suddenly red icon and no data downloaded.
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I haven't done too much testing yet, since I'm still using my old navigation system. But over the weekend I will try and see if the current configuration works properly over a longer period of time.
Or another scenario finding satellites normally during the first run and after exiting igo and then loading it again it wouldn't receive data.
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If I restart iGO8 without a soft reset in between it will always crash back to the today screen after loading to the cockpit screen. Worse, if I try that several times it may enter a "death cycle" where iGO8 restarts over and over again until I press and hold the on/off-button for the TG01 to shut down.
Interestingly in the short time span where iGO8 is completely loaded you CAN see the yellow spots on the GPS-detection (cockpit screen) which means that it picks up satellites! But the next second it will freeze, crash and then overwrite the graphics onscreen with the today screen. An error log would maybe help here.
and led me to assume that i had a defective phone.
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My TG01 is a used one but from a reliable trader. So, I don't think that it is the smartphone itself but a problem involving either the software or the driver/driver support.
Have you tried switching to another radio and do your tests?
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Not yet! I switched back to an official ROM released by Toshiba after I concluded that maybe there was a problem, but the errors/solutions remain exactly the same.
Since I'm not the biggest fan of their pre-installed software package, I switched back again to "pure" WM 6.5 provided by Nokser.
I don't know the radio your current rom uses but if it's the 1600 it has gps disconnection problems.
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I'm using: Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
Also try a cr***ed version of igo to see if this happens.
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Since I own two legally purchased licenses of iGO8 (1x PDA, 1x PNA) I'm always doing a bit of "beta testing".
Same results! The 8.32.x version I tried actually behaved even worse than the 8.34.x version I've been using for some time now!
So i chose to use a *** version, though i don't consider myself a pirate
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To the heroic "pirate hunters" out there we're already "pirates" because we talk on this forum and dare to do stuff with (and to) our hardware (and software) that we're not allowed AND supposed to.
Hell, even attempting to flash another ROM onto this device will cancel any warranty!
Regards!
Testing complete!
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra ProEdition WM ® CE OS 5.2 23569 - Build 23569[20/06/2010][GERMAN] (by Nokser)
- Radio Version: v.5005.1700.05
- iGO8 8.3.4.142975 (May 11 2010)
- no gpsmodriver or other similar software/driver installed
- SYS.TXT with [gps]-command added
And here are the results:
- Within city limits the GPS-reception worked perfectly! Fast, strong and responsive. I tested it for about 30-45 minutes. No glitches, no hang-ups. TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.
- Once entering the motorway and speeding up the GPS-signal was lost within 20 minutes - at a speed of about 120-150 km/h. It did not re-establish and after awhile iGO8 even lost the GPS-receiver itself - red light blinking! When I restarted iGO8 (without a soft reset) it would find the GPS-receiver and satellites again for about 20-30 seconds, than crash back to the today screen.
- After a soft reset and at high speed (150km/h) on the motorway iGO8 would find the satellites again than lose them after about 30-60 seconds. Same behaviour as above.
- Returning within the city limits and after a soft reset, everything worked just fine again until the very end of the trip (another 30 minutes).
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Additional testing during the trip:
I also have an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) which I connected it to the TG01, removed the [gps]-command from SYS.TXT and started iGO8. No problems here!
Same during any part of the trip - perfect GPS-reception, no glitches or hang-ups.
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Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
While all help is appreciated, the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS! A soft reset cures that, but still it seems to be Igo holding onto the port some how and denying everything else access to it, be it Tomtom, Google maps, GPSGate etc on official and cooked roms.
ZedEx48K said:
the main issue that I have is not the running of Igo, it is after using and exiting it that no other program can use the GPS!
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We have a common goal! If someone finds out what's causing iGO8's behaviour there may be a fix around that helps both of us.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Today, I took the TG01 with iGO8 out for some testing!
Setup:
- Ultra......TMC-support was provided by an external bluetooth device.......
Conclusion:
Either the device itself has a problem with continuous GPS-reception (e.g. the radio and/or its driver) - which should be tested with other softwares to provide some more conclusive data. Or iGO8 and the support for TG01's GPS-receiver is the culprit to blame!
Regards!
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I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
Thank you!
Pere said:
I've been 11 months using IGO +GPSGate without no hangs at all.
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I'm already wondering what kind of driver GPSGate provides in this case that makes running GPS-dependent software so obviously less problematic than the standard WM-setup!
By the way (perhaps out threat but interest me) could you explain how do you provide TMC-suport?
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I actually have two options for TMC-support! First of all an external GPS-mouse (bluetooth) that comes with a TMC-receiver integrated. It's the Royaltek RTG-2000. I got it new for 25 Euros quid from eBay. Reception is very good (in both cases)! There are only two disadvantages: 1. It uses a plugin antenna (wire aerial) for TMC-reception you have to setup every time you use it first. 2. The proprietary (and rather hard to change) accu it comes with is only 650mA which means it doesn't last very long without recharging!
The other is option is also bluetooth-based and directly connected to my car radio. It's called Navilock TMC Y-Adapter. This one's a bit more elegant, since it's directly wired to the car radio's antenna and power supply and thus disappears completely and doesn't need any extra setup. It's also much more expensive at 55-65 Euros. But the TMC-reception is excellent and it works like a charm. Well, ok, iGO8 3.2x versions will not be able to detect it, and I have to use version 3.4x instead!
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Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Did some testing with GPSGate today as more and more people recommend it to me.
When I installed it last time the GPS-receiver picked up no satellites at all - even after a wait of up to 30 minutes and under open sky!
This time there were no problems at all. Maybe this has something to do with Nokser's WM-build or the radio version. No idea yet.
Step by step:
- installed GPSGate with GPS-receiver pointed to COM 2
- removed [gps]-command from SYS.TXT
- started iGO8 and pointed GPS-receiver to COM 2
- GPS-receiver was detected, satellites were found
- restarted iGO8 to see if hangups/crashed would occur, but no problems there
Every time I restart it will work properly.
The only thing I have to test yet is how it behaves over a longer period, outside the city and at higher speeds!
Conclusion:
Looks like iGO8 is responsible for the troubles and this should be pointed out to Nav'N'Go ASAP so that they can do something about it!
In the meantime, using GPSGate seems to be an ok-solution and it's really not too expensive if other problems with GPS-detection/reception are also fixed by it.
Regards!
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Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
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Yes, but try using Google maps or Tomtom after Igo.
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Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
zar1967 said:
Let me get this straight: Only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work. But if I start and use iGO8 first the other two won't?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
Regards!
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Yes! GPS programs work happily all day long one after another (the ones I use anyway), once Igo8 has been used nothing else will work again till a reset (though Igo8 will continue to work).
2 things of note, I am currently running IGO8 Ver 8.3.2.124260 (Dec 16 2009), does anyone know where to get the latest *cough* version for testing reasons?
Secondly no matter what port I set IGO to (1 to 9) IGO finds the GPS on everyone of them!.....??
So is it the phone or the IGO version at fault?
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Let me get this straight: Even with GPSGate installed and running, only iGO8 will "lock" the GPS-serial once you used it? If you use e.g. the combination of TomTom, Google Maps and iGO8 - in that order- it will work? But if you start and use iGO8 first, the other two won't without restarting the phone?
Hm. Interesting. But also pointing again towards iGO8 as the culprit for the problem!
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GPSGate allows to use two or three (even more depending the memory usage) GPS dependent software AT THE SAME TIME. For instance you can use Igo and grab your itinerary on COMPE GPS simultaneously!!
(Remark: I'm not a GPS Gate employee )
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guys, i can't let the gps using satellite in my optimus one to work...
always says "Waiting for location" .... like using the carhome or the navigation bundled applications pre-installed...
any fix please?
You have to wait for a lock. That's normal.
Also, Try waiting for a lock outdoors. GPS signals aren't as strong as the ones used in SMS and stuff.
@ kp
ive tried waiting for quite a long time but nothing happened...tried also outdoor but the same...
ive tried using GPS Test application to located GPS Satellites, and indeed it can locate some with low to average signals...but when i am going to use the pre-installed applications for tracking my location, it still can't.
ive searched the net and someone also is having the same problem using LG Optimus One as well.... >.<
Depending on your firmware this might be a bug. There were GPS problemes reported with certain firmwares. But you have to be patient too, because sometimes it takes a while until 2 or more satellites are found and locked.
You can try using free app like "Ulysse Gizmos" on monitoring gps, especially on lockon status.
& also try this tips to access the internal gps test menu @ link: goo.gl/ZFs6D
Our LG Optimus One P500 code is 3845#*500#
Do let us know how it goes.
Good luck!
I use the P500 whitout a data connection. So does have a sense set the gps in A-GPS or if i have the data not active i have to set it in a GPS Standalone?
restart phone and try again
are u using da stock rom?
@Hesediel
If you don't have data conection you cann't receive any maps, but it's no problem to use a-GPS. But without data you will simply have the geo-data, no maps. So that seems to make no sense.
Micky_G said:
@Hesediel
If you don't have data conection you cann't receive any maps, but it's no problem to use a-GPS. But without data you will simply have the geo-data, no maps. So that seems to make no sense.
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Yes but i would like to buy an offline navigator like sygic, copilot, ndrive, something like that not the google maps/navigatopr for now, so it's better i use gps as standalone or is the same setting it as a-gps ms based?
it's a known problem.
I've got a p500 without data connection (I'm using wi-fi only).
The first week after flashing my phone the gps works fine.
Then afer a week the gps fix begins to be sloooow.
After a month it is very slow.
So I have to do an hard reset to turn the gps works well again.
Any utility (like gps status) that try to reset the gsp... fail.
The only known solution... is a ... sadly... hard reset.
I hope the someone will be able to write an application to do the same thing like the gps hard reset.
Use fasterfix, you can find this in android market.just search for "fasterfix"
Requires root, busybox and data connection during the initial GPS lock time.
Your gps will get a fix within seconds.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA App
I have a problem with custom rom ( openoptimus) and gps.It takes to much time to lock to gps and sometimes i have to reset the phone in order to work...I have download the faster fix but it hasnet work
pudenee said:
it's a known problem.
I've got a p500 without data connection (I'm using wi-fi only).
The first week after flashing my phone the gps works fine.
Then afer a week the gps fix begins to be sloooow.
After a month it is very slow.
So I have to do an hard reset to turn the gps works well again.
Any utility (like gps status) that try to reset the gsp... fail.
The only known solution... is a ... sadly... hard reset.
I hope the someone will be able to write an application to do the same thing like the gps hard reset.
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Well, i have the same problem and used the same solution. But now I just wait. Sometimes I "cold start" gps with GPS Status or even the "hidden" gps test menu and after waiting a little or a lot (30s or 10min) I get GPS fix. Anyway, restarting the phone seems to work well too.
Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
I have got observations from differtent roms ( not anly my roms and with different radios - even last 321 ) that very rarely ( I noticed only once per one tested rom but my tests were too short ) something wrong happens with GPS service. None program gets any data from GPS port. Changing managed port in this case gives nothing. Programs simply do not get any NMEA data.
Maybe return of GPS service from sleep mode is not always correct ?
As I remember some people had similar problems and they had to restart WM.
I detected is is not necessary because it is enough to restart GPS service and all start to work perfect. That is why in my new rom updates ( not in UPDATE3 ) I will include small utility for GPS restart.
Have anybody similar observations ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Seconded Even after spending some time looking at the AGPS dimension, I've not been completely convinced that there wasn't something else happening - if it can be better controlled by a service management applet, that would be a very useful advance. Would also much appreciate if can be made available (or appropriate advice on config).
Best regards,
Kevin
(InsertNameHere) said:
Good idea, we have all noticed that a soft reset is necessary to get back gps functionality, so a utility that would do it for us would be great, its a bane of using the TG01, if possible could you make this utility available to all?
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Yes, I can share it with all users but it will be difficult to prove it really works ( You have only my word ) unless someone has found a way to "force" GPS service to stop working good. Usage is very simple. After You start it You get message "GPS service restared".
That is all.
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fxdjacentyfxd
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
dr_strangetrick said:
Hi everyone, I use the latest version of GPSMod on my TG01 and I have no GPS problems whatsoever.
I am currently using MiROM1_rel5 with 1800 radio and all is fine, even before using this rom (apart from when I tried radio 321) I have never had any issues with the GPS after I started using GPSMod.
I use IGO with my TG01 and you will probably know from other threads that this is probably the worst package to get working on the TG01 but I don’t have any GPS issues at all.
Use the latest version (3_4_2) and keep everything at the default settings and it configures COM2 as the 'new' GPS port and I use this in my SYS.TXT
[GPS]
port="2"
baud_rate="4800"
I have just come back from Italy and when I turned on my TG01 outside Nice airport and I got a lock in less than 2mins and using my TG01 in and around Italy no issues and when I returned back to good old UK it took a couple of mins to get the first fix but its been fine.
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Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
We do not say about any regular GPS failure but about very rare cases.
Nobody knows when it happens so it can concerns Your solution too.
It would be desirable that users who met this problem, tell us what GPS drivers/software they used when it happened.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Igo varients normally lose signal or find sats, then lose signal, radio 0321 improves things a lot for me, but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
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but still... GPS signal lost is a common problem, and it never really recovers until a soft reset.
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Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Could You describe it more ?
Do You know whether and how to cause such "unrecoverable" situation so that to get 100% prove my "GPS restarter" really could help ?
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fxdjacentyfxd
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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I can probably prove this using GPSTest on my current radio, if not IGO will do it
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Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Ok. I will try to upload my utility maybe today evening or tomorrow.
Do what You can to "damage" GPS and apply restarter.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12492189&postcount=1
my utility.
Remember to stop all navigation software before execution of this utility.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
(InsertNameHere) said:
Its easy to damage GPS, start a gps app, then exit it, gps no longer works till you restart the device, thats how its always worked for me, anyway, after trying your app, still have the same problem. I am sure others can also test for you.
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Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hmm, I guess it must be other kind of problem. I have never had a situation when navigation software "kills" GPS ( Ozi Explorer and Garmin Mobile XT ). It was rather after return tg01 from sleep or something other.
1) Do You utilize "standard" GPS driver from any official ROM ?
2) Do You use managed port ( which ) or hardware port ?
3) It happens only with IGO software or any other You execute ?
I have created some simple "terminal" software for PNA devices so maybe we could do some kind of diagnostic.
P.S. As a matter of fact my utility restarts "managed port service" not real gps driver. I can see I have to modify my utility for You. I will restart both: GPS driver and gps service. Maybe it will help.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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Glad you figured out the problem, i wasn't suggesting that your utility definately didn't work, but i used some simple gps tests, IGO, wait for it to find some sats, then exit, after exit, no gps programs can work again till soft reset, same with the simple GPStest 1.04, i think if your utility restarts both, you will have a very robust little utility.
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You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
You can "kill" GPS too simply. Maybe problem is rom dependent or mentioned
applications bahaves in wrong way. Any other users of the same rom report this problem ?
Could You give me any link to download GPStest 1.04 and write some explanations how You used to utilize it ? Just simple steps to "kill" GPS.
It seems to be simple application so I can test what happens .
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
I know it doesn't fix the problem but with GpsMod I can start IGo, exit then open Google maps (which is also set to COM2) then exit, then open something like PUTTY and use COM2 then exit and go back to IGo all without having to soft reset and every application working.
It would be great if we could get the gps to work as good an htc gps but for those having problems with the gps then GpsMod is the answer.
(InsertNameHere) said:
You can download GPS Test here
Its very simple application, it scans com ports for gps, then just tests how many sats can be found, very very siimple, but very useful for testing whether you can get a lock or not.
So, run gps test, scan for ports, wait for a lock, then exit program, then restart, see if it works again, for me it would not, this may also be dependant on radio, i am currently using mirom8 with radio 0300
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I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
I think it is rom/gps driver dependent. I tested GPS via GpsTest. Works perfect.
To catch first 3d fix my tg01 needed a little time. It is obvious.
Then I exited and started GpsTest few times. Every time after start, it showed immediately 3d fix and at least 5-6 sattelites.
P.S. I always utilize COM4 managed port.
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fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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OK, it must be IGO, what would be useful then, is if the uitility had a mortscript or batch type ability, say you go to run a GPS utility or a GPS navigation application, your utility restarts gps driver and service, then runs program, then does a driver/service restart upon exit. I think its IGO that takes over the port, obviously other people may not have this problem, but i have noticed it on many roms.
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What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
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fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
What my utility potentially can do , You can do manualy so we will know whether it will help. So when You "kill" gps , do as follows:
1) Execute fdcTaskmanager.
2) Go to services
3) Stop gps service
4) Go to devices
5) Stop gps driver
6) Start gps driver
7) Go to services
8) Start gps service
9) Exit fdcTaskManager
If now IGO or other software will show satelites, modification of my utility have sense to fix Your problems.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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OK, i will test for you, no problem, and thanks, great work, run out of thanks right now. I am going to reflash to a different rom and try this out.