Help running out of space - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My HD2 started warning me that I was running out of space today !
When I looked at the Settings\Space display it showed
Device
Total Storage of 179.86MB
Used Storage 178.90MB!!!!!!
Free Storage 0.96MB!!!!!!
1st Question - I thought this device had 512 ROM and 448 RAM?? Wheres the 179.86 figure in this??
I think I have moved quite a few of the standard items to my memory card and I have almost all programs installed on my memory card and ensure all my outlook emails sync to the memory card
I have cleared a few more things down but I still only have 29.52MB left.
The breakdown of storage space on the device is below.
457MB Windows (425MB in the root of Windows) (7MB in Messaging)
33MB Application Data (31MB in \HTC of which 27MB is in \HTC Album\Cache)
24MB Program Files
What is Windows\messaging. I purged all of my SMS messages and cleared the deleted items folder but this did not affect this directory
Can I safely move the Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache directory? What is this anyway?
What do you folks have in terms of space and what can I do?
Many Thanks

I would suggest you to use the advanced search button in the upper right corner, because there are many threads regarding this problem, and probably nobody will write all that again.
Cheers!

alecs said:
My HD2 started warning me that I was running out of space today !
When I looked at the Settings\Space display it showed
Device
Total Storage of 179.86MB
Used Storage 178.90MB!!!!!!
Free Storage 0.96MB!!!!!!
1st Question - I thought this device had 512 ROM and 448 RAM?? Wheres the 179.86 figure in this??
I think I have moved quite a few of the standard items to my memory card and I have almost all programs installed on my memory card and ensure all my outlook emails sync to the memory card
I have cleared a few more things down but I still only have 29.52MB left.
The breakdown of storage space on the device is below.
457MB Windows (425MB in the root of Windows) (7MB in Messaging)
33MB Application Data (31MB in \HTC of which 27MB is in \HTC Album\Cache)
24MB Program Files
What is Windows\messaging. I purged all of my SMS messages and cleared the deleted items folder but this did not affect this directory
Can I safely move the Application Data\HTC\HTC Album\Cache directory? What is this anyway?
What do you folks have in terms of space and what can I do?
Many Thanks
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Try deleting all your files tepmorary files within IE

also check and empty windows/opera9/profile/download
and
application data/volatile

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Memory management

Currently i have 35Mb of space in use.
26Megs is for a game & the other 9Mb i'm presumming is windows etc. however there is an optional file for said game that is 84Mb and i don't have the storage.
i was wondering if it is possible to load all the windows data into the 14Mb of free storage/rom leaving just the game in main memory. then there will be space for the additional file:
game 26Mb + additional file 84Mb = 110Mb (14Mb free)
This is not a permanant solution, obviously an mmc card is a better option but i don't have the cash at the moment, so i want a quick fix for playing the game. also i wouldn't mind having that extra 10 megs. lol
many thanks, sorry if this has been brought up, i did a search but there was too many results to sift thru.
Yes its possible to do it without an SD card...
Go to START -> SETTINGS
then choose the second tab (SYSTEM)
then click on MEMORY
now you can give more space to STORAGE area & reduce it for the PROGRAMS (which is the memory windows uses to run programs)
But be aware that windows will control this memory ratio automatically every few menutes... :wink:
i think i must have misphrased the question.
I already know how to adjust the memory settings, and i will get round to that to give more memory to storage, but first i need that 14Mb of memory that the windows and programfiles folders have already taken up. I want to be able to store that in the free backup ROM space, hence leaving all 128Mb of RAM free, which i can then divide into 110Mb storage and 14Mb program ram.
Ahh well, thats impossible!!!
Windows needs to be installed on the RAM, you can't change that ever!
I suggest you to buy an MMC card, its cheaper than SD cards..
Sorry if I didn't help!
no thanks thats exactly what i needed to know
looks like a wad of cash will need to be parted from my person soon lol
thanks again.
You welcome Ace.. I did nothing
If you are willing to buy MMC, consider this 2GB MMC with read speed about 150X (22.5MB/s) and write speed greater than 120X (18MB/s)! Its WOoOoOoOooOoOoOoOoW 8)
http://www.pdagold.com/articles/detail.asp?a=159
Memory & MMC Cards
Reading this post has made me wonder exactly what I've got on my XDA2. Windows is only 9MB? I don't seem to have as much space left on mine as it seems I should
I have:-
27MB in MyDocuments
28 MB in Programs (Calculated by adding up the program sizes listed in ActiveSync).
I don't have any Mutilmedia Messages on there, and i empty the Internet Explorer temporay files regularly, however, my xda2 still only reports that I have 40MB free. 126 - ( 27+28 ) - 9 (windows) = 62, not 40.
Is there any PC app that can link to the xda2 and find out exactly how big each folder is, or where all the space is going to?
Also, with the MMC card you posted, is there any particular ROM version needed for larger MMC Cards? I was wondering if there is any limitations on the size of card the xda2 can handle.
Come on guys!
Windows is not 9MB nor 14MB !!!!!!!
If the ROM image size is 32MB, so windows size would be something around that (~30 or 31 MB)!
My windows folder size (on my XDA I device) now is 69MB!
Try to navigate to Windows directory using Total Commander & then select all files inside it & choose Properties. It will give you the total size of the files.
The installation programs copy their system & common files to Windows folder everytime you install a program. Also the Database files are there inside, growing & growing. So this folder gets bigger & bigger over time...!
I guess that huge MMC doesn't need any special software to operate it. They've said that it works for all handheld & wireless devices..
Anyone knows from where to buy this mammoth MMC card?
Wait a min.... how come my windows folder size is 69MB and all what I have on my device is 64MB RAM ?????? :?
Seems Total Commander is faulty!!!! :roll:
what is being displayed as the size of the windows dir is BOTH
ram and rom
2Gb mmc is just insane. 1Gb ones retail for around £400 so i'd hate to think what you'd fork out for double that.
Yeah I guess so, but XDA supports 2GB memory cards, since I saw a program in handango.com which supports formating them :wink:
But sometimes you need huge space! my 256 MMC card is almost full, I need larger space :lol:
also it gets wiped every 1 or 2 weeks
damn Windows!!!!!
what do yo u mean by wiped? something causes it to lose all its data? or are you doing it purposely?
Yes the card got wiped by itself without any external interfer!!!!
Its a bug in Windows Mobile 2003!!!!!
the reason i asked is cus something like that just happened to me!!!
My card had all my data on it, then for no reason file explorer nor activesync would not let me view anything. Memory management showed data on card but i could not access it! Even storagetools had problems with the card. i had to hard reset my machine for it to work!
Are they planning to fix this?
No there's no need to hard reset your device!
Just format the SD card & it will work again!
I guess this bug will be fixed in Windows Mobile 2003 SE (well, i hope so :roll: )
XDA2 memory
Hi Guys!
I have changed my XDA2 memory to give more to program memory since I have a MMC card. I dun seemed to see Windows switching back to the original ratio.
Also need your comments on some files like the MSGQueue_SMS which is eating into data storage. What are those files? Can they be in MMC card?
MSGQueue_SMS is an essential process for the SMS reception, and also cannot reside on storage card since it runs at startup!
I have the same problem regarding memory management! I just HARD RESET my device, and I gain back the free memory again :?

[Q] [10.1v]Memory full notification - Applications 7.52 GB

Hi,
Got a notification that I only got 8.5 Mb left on my memory!!
That seemed a bit weird to me cause I hadn't many movies on my tab.
And I have only added a few apps.
I checked out Storage under Settings.
Media 5.32 GB (I deleted a movie)
Applications 7.52 GB
That can't be right!!
When I click Applications and select All a list appears with the Applications.
Now way that all adds up to 7.52 GB!
I checked the browser cache but that was not the cause.
Any ideas what's causing this and how can I get rid off this crazy number.
It can't be right.
TIA
*****
10.1v still on 3.0.1
since the application limits in size has been altered it is possible that your tab has that ammount of applications.
A good example would ben asphalt 6 or something, they most of the time require alternate downloads that can add up to 600 mb per application.
Could you post a list with your current installed applications?
It lists from top the bottom decreasing sizes.
At the top I have Google Earth 104 Mb
Maps 103 Mb
Aldiko Reader 17.13 Mb
Adobe Flash Player 10.3 11.96 Mb
MoboPlayer 8.77 Mb
Music 7.45 Mb
Gallery 7.20 Mb
Find Differences (Game) 6.88 Mb
MoboPlayer Codec 6.78 Mb
QuickOffice 6.30 Mb
After that only apps with sizes under 5 Mb (About 60 of them from 5 MB to 0 MB)
No way that adds up to 7.65 GB
Memory = RAM
Storage = Flash
Looks like you ran out of RAM, not storage.
try clearing cache of high resource seeking apps like google earth,market, google maps, browser etc. Try applications>all>and check the cache size for each (hectic but worth a try)
I recreated the notification by adding a couple of movies to my tab.
It said "Low on Space"
Text by clicking said "Tablet Storage Space is getting low"
Settings/Storage
Internal Storage
Total 14.12 GB
Media 6.58 GB
Applications 7.52 GB !!!!!!!!
Available 22.27 MB
Applications Top 5
Maps 108 MB
Earth 104 MB
Aldiko Reader 17.13 MB
Adobe Flashplayer 10.3 11.96 MB
Gallery 10.77 MB
After that the size goes rapidly from under 10 MB to under 1 MB.
I checked cache of all applications listed but found nothing disturbing, rather small sizes actually.
Browser cache was 25 MB for instance.
So I really don't know where that 7.52Gb is coming from.
I had only 22.27 MB left and tried to copy another movie to see if it would overrule "the limit" but it didn't, it said I couldn't add more because of the low space.
So this is really a problem if applications take up more than half of the flashmemory.
The only thing I can probably do is to restore the tab to factory settings.
I'll be waiting until the 3.1 update arrives, if it arrives.
Suggestions are welcome though.
TIA
try backing-up from rom manager, and format the internal memory!there seems to be a bad file cluster in there!
really. I've had exactly the same problem with you! I tried restarting the device, and it recovers around 400mb instantly! lol
Oooooooooh,
By restarting you mean to turn it off and on again.
Mine doesn't do that, it remains at 7.52GB
*****
By rom manager you mean the clockworkmod from the market.
I have checked out the free version but I understand your tab has to be rooted.
Mine isn't.
It also said when Samsung you have to download something from xda-forum!
I like to know more about it, I am really not up to date in that field.
Copy the folders on sd card you reckon important as backup on your pc or any container manually, format the sdcard.
OR
The rooting process involves saving the ***.zip file(with the root tools) into sd card, booting into recovery, applying update.zip from sd card and reboot thus you are good to go. For the zip file and details
http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/?p=2054
INSTRUCTIONS
Go into command window> typing cmd in START>RUN
Direct to the drive and address containing the adb.exe file, eg
C:\Program Files\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\
adb push su_busybox_misc-sam_tab_10.1-061611.zip /sdcard/ (you can manually push the zip file into root of sdcard from windows XP etc hence this command not required)
adb reboot recovery ( this perhaps works on 3.0 versions but not 3.1)
volume down to apply update from /sdcard
select .zip
hit power to select
scroll down to apply, and apply.
after flash, reboot
I think I found a way to help you.
Go to settings -> storage -> click at Applications
See all the items in there, and see which one has the biggest memory of all.
There aren't any with huge filesizes, see post 3 and 6.
@mughalgxt
Thanks for sharing but that sounds very complicated for a newbie like me .
I'll think I will wait for a while until I try this.
I have contacted Samsung support, let's see what they can tell me.
Well, I suggested you to ,make a folder in your pc drive, copy files from tab' sd card which seem important, mainly those of your movies,music,pics and installed applications than format the sdcard mounted on pc! There seem to be some bad file clusters on the sd card.

[Q] Inbuilt Memory shortage

Hi
Sorry not a high tech question but would appreciate some help
Re. my viewpad 7
Seems to be constantly short of inbuilt memory.
(should be 512mb)
was down to zero today though have not addded anything for a while.
Clearing cache and history via browser took it back up to 8 mb but already with an hours use down to 6mb again.
Have moved everything that Apps manager allows over to the (16GB) SD card, which still has lots of space.
Neither of the "File Explorer" or "Settings/SD card and phone storage" routes let me actually see what's in phone memory.
Pad is "as bought" re rom's etc
Would appreciate any help.
thx
Russ
It's got 512mb total, which is split over different partitions.
You are running out of space on the /data partition, try uninstalling some apps, or use an app like apps2sd to move some to your sd card.
Thanks for quick response but have tried deleting a few apps and have already moved everything that can be moved onto sd card
have downloaded a couple of versions of app2sd apps 2sd etc but they do not offer any more suggestions on apps that can be moved as I say I have aready moved all that seem moveable
It does seem that it's some sort of data thats the problem but I can't see into the inbuilt memory to see what data it is or from what app
rgds
russ
It is stupid Android. When you move apps to SD, than still some (usualy bigger) parts is still in internal memory. When you move apps to SD, than info about occupied space is valid only for occupied space on SD by the apps. If you want to know how big is the application than you have to move back to internal memory, than info is correct.
Also some updating of system apss can consume very big space of internal memory. For example Aldiko can occupy 6MB !!!!
The problem is, when you install a new app either from Android Market, Amazon App Store or anywhere else, the system retains the .apk install file somewhere in memory. I'm yet to find where those files are stored.
You can use a file manager like Astro File manager to see all the files on your viewpad 7's internal memory however, manipulating those files is a bit trickier. I thought I found them in a \sys\data directory or something like that but the system refuses to let me delete them.
Does anyone know for certain where these .apk files are stored. I've deleted/moved everything I can and am down to the apps that I need on the unit. If I have to delete more, then there is no sense having a small form-factor tablet. The space that is being used is far above the applications that I have installed so there has to be garbage files somewhere that need cleaned up.

Low on OS space what can I delete?

I got a message saying I was getting low on space. I bought a program call SD Maid which tells me I've used 1.4 GB out of 1.97 GB. It has an option called "CORPSE FINDER" which comes up with some files like:
com.motorola.batterymonitor
com.motorola.blur.contacts.deferred
com.motorola.android.wmdrm.webpush
com.motorola.android.simmanager
com.mot.readout
com.motorola.dock.provider
these files are located in /data/data/
and /data/data/.com.mot.readout/lib
and /data/data/com.motorola.dock.DesktopDock/shared_prefs/com.motorola.dock
Is is OK to delete these files?
Are there other obvious files I can delete off the phone?
Another app called FREE SPACE tells me I have used 93% of system space or 298MB out of 319MB available. Is there a way to increase the available space?
Thanks for any suggestions
What? Move apps to internal memory if you need space.
How can you fill up 10GB?
Agreed, move apps to internal storage. And you can use DiskUsage to see exactly what is taking up how much space and delete it.
no effect
Moving apps to external SD or uninstalling apps has NO EFFECT on the SYSTEM space, according to FreeSpace (ROOT). After uninstalling apps the space used by the SYSTEM remains unchanged at 93%:
size: 319.5 MB
used: 298.5 MB
free: 20.9 MB
Uninstalling apps or widgets decreases the space used by DATA which currently is:
size: 2015.8 MB
used: 1371.8 MB
free: 643.9 MB
So the issue is how to decrease space used by the (android) SYSTEM.
thanks
nothing user created is being stored on the /system partition. that partition is only for the ROM itself, all your customizations go to /data partition (except if you modify your /system partition with root access and adb/terminal/root explorer) you shouldnt be bothered about the free space in the /system partition. the /system partition is supposed to stay as it is throughout your usage - except if you flash another rom or mod this one. thats it
free space
Thanks for your info. I am rooted, and installed root explorer, but thats it. I have recently gotten the laptop dock. The only reason this came up was because of a message about low space in my drop down menu. I have a lot of apps installed but have ample space in all partitions except the system partition. I didn't write the message down, but if it comes up again I will in order to get an idea of where its coming from.
WAIT. THAT's IT.....the laptop dock. That message must have come from using the dock !!
I will confirm next time it happens......
thanks guys.
The message is about the Ram consumption, which the webdock consumes rather fast with several programs open (firefox with many tabs, open office and so on)

Lost storage space

Hello everyone. I noticed something odd with my phone today as play store refused to install updates due to low storage space. Thats odd because i'm %100 sure that i'm not using all space. Now if i connect my phone to pc over usb, then select everything in my internal storage, total size shows 3.64 GB. And using Zen File Manager it shows that used internal storage is 3.82 GB. Thats close enough. But same zen file manager (as well as total commander) shows me i have only 690 MB free left out of 11.79 GB total storage and there is 8.67 GB of "other" files apart from images apps videos etc. My question is how can i find what could be this 8.67 GB of "other" files and how could i access them as i can't find them on pc or on file managers?
Using: Xperia Z1 C6903 on 14.6.A.1.236 (Android 5.1.1) rooted with locked BL.
Seems like file managers can't keep track of app sizes correctly. Also had more than 3 GB in "cached data" in settings -> storage. Deleting cached data freed up space to a point that it makes sense. I'm writing because it may help someone with similar problem.
Konur said:
Hello everyone. I noticed something odd with my phone today as play store refused to install updates due to low storage space. Thats odd because i'm %100 sure that i'm not using all space. Now if i connect my phone to pc over usb, then select everything in my internal storage, total size shows 3.64 GB. And using Zen File Manager it shows that used internal storage is 3.82 GB. Thats close enough. But same zen file manager (as well as total commander) shows me i have only 690 MB free left out of 11.79 GB total storage and there is 8.67 GB of "other" files apart from images apps videos etc. My question is how can i find what could be this 8.67 GB of "other" files and how could i access them as i can't find them on pc or on file managers?
Using: Xperia Z1 C6903 on 14.6.A.1.236 (Android 5.1.1) rooted with locked BL.
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Often apps makes backup of themselves in root folders which are not normally accessible, so when an app is deleted the data is left behind and occupies space. Similarly there would be many apps which you may have downloaded and then deleted thus occupying many memory space in your device.
Just a simple factory reset will solve the problem
Regards,
milkyway3

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