[DEV] Near on getting android to our beloved atom - iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom ROM Development

I have made a set of files from the android roms floating on net with haret, according to the log below haret seems to pass control to linux android kernel and thats when it crashes, haret encounters no errors so it would be grateful if some one can help me out here with a uart port.
Log:

Cool, GO,GO,Go!

ok, ive got haret working perfectly with other 3rd party mobile linux kernels.
i got the the android source for 2.6.31 and 1.6 rc4 on linux and am off to writing drivers in my free time using haret, linux and ofcourse o2 Atom xD
will post beta builds for testing...

Oh yeah, then we'll just have to buy another atom to play around with android X-D ...no need for expensive devices

Like this...
I just wanna help you, but i didn't know anythings...
Good luck
regards.

Rick_1995 said:
ok, ive got haret working perfectly with other 3rd party mobile linux kernels.
i got the the android source for 2.6.31 and 1.6 rc4 on linux and am off to writing drivers in my free time using haret, linux and ofcourse o2 Atom xD
will post beta builds for testing...
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Any news?

well we do have a news but it aint good,
Drivers and other various mLinux were working on my Atom but
since Android 1.5 cupcake, 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 froyo all require ARMv7 Processors where as Atom is built upon the Intel PXA architecture with ARMv4 instructions.
Hence THERE WILL BE NO ANDROID ON ATOM EVER. however you can always create a ARMv7 emulator but then who wants to waste nearly 2 years writing code all time while wasting their financial resources writing an emulator which will run so slow on atom that its beyond use...
I could do that xP but my Atom's USB port broke last week, I have contacted expansys in vain.
will probably shift to Desire or Leo by next month..

Rick_1995 said:
well we do have a news but it aint good,
Drivers and other various mLinux were working on my Atom but
since Android 1.5 cupcake, 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 froyo all require ARMv7 Processors where as Atom is built upon the Intel PXA architecture with ARMv4 instructions.
Hence THERE WILL BE NO ANDROID ON ATOM EVER. however you can always create a ARMv7 emulator but then who wants to waste nearly 2 years writing code all time while wasting their financial resources writing an emulator which will run so slow on atom that its beyond use...
I could do that xP but my Atom's USB port broke last week, I have contacted expansys in vain.
will probably shift to Desire or Leo by next month..
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I gotta throw out a correction here, the PXA architecture is ARMv5te, and all of the andoid versions boot on the Universal that has the same processor link

well mate, after writing teh drivers, my O2 was still stuck at the same place,
not to mention O2 atom incorporates Intel PXA 27x while Universal carries the 272 version.
However small the difference be, it could be the key.
and its just not the CPU and its Instructions that matter, im working without the Atom datasheet which is like completing a maze while you are blind..
The git repositeries refuse to build under ARMv4, however i will try ARMv5, but since my atom is broken, ill need some1 who can dare to brick their own atom xP kidding, so ill just post all the drivers and the git repository for Cupcake since that is the version even Universal works on.. Cheers to O2.

News on it?...

I hope to see some updates on this revolutionary item.

great news!!! will check this session closely!!!! thanks

Any update?

Rick_1995 said:
well we do have a news but it aint good,
Drivers and other various mLinux were working on my Atom but
since Android 1.5 cupcake, 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 froyo all require ARMv7 Processors where as Atom is built upon the Intel PXA architecture with ARMv4 instructions.
Hence THERE WILL BE NO ANDROID ON ATOM EVER. however you can always create a ARMv7 emulator but then who wants to waste nearly 2 years writing code all time while wasting their financial resources writing an emulator which will run so slow on atom that its beyond use...
I could do that xP but my Atom's USB port broke last week, I have contacted expansys in vain.
will probably shift to Desire or Leo by next month..
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bad news ....

smartseck said:
bad news ....
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who says the bad news...??
You go here to find out http://sites.google.com/site/siteofhx/Home/android/android-running-on-asus-p535
Good Luck

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Linux and Android on Raphael

Since I run Linux systems at home I'm really interested in running it on my phones too. I kinda ordered my new phone since my TYTN is falling apart (does not synch thru USB anymore) so I can wait till late november for HTC to release their phone on Android.
So, do you think HTC will make an Android ROM for the Raphael? (or is there a big probability someone will cook it from another ROM)
I don't think they will do such a Android-ROM for Touch Pro as they will try to sell their new Android-Device. But since the Touch Pro has this Qualcomm-CPU, I hope Android will run on it - Again, made by some community-member, not HTC.
would somebody like to try booting linux on the raphael? I wonder if things will behave in the same way as on the diamond ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002 )
in that thread, marbalon posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=104265&d=1218018832 a package with latest haret and a build for the halibut machine from the google git.
also you can replace the zImage in the diamond.zip with the zImage builds for vogue from dzo: for example http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/zImage
or try the kaiser kernel http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/zImage.bin
and report what happens. does haret get further than go go go? Which machine does it detect?
thanks
can a moderator move this to raphael rom development please?
I tried the bootkit for Diamond, the latest builds for the kaiser from igorris and also the latest build for vogue - but all hang up.
i will investigate a bit....
do they hang at 100% / Go Go Go? Do you see console output?
dcordes said:
do they hang at 100% / Go Go Go? Do you see console output?
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Yep at 100%, Go Go Go i can´t see.
Please take a look in this topic..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002&page=17
Its about running Android on the Diamond..
And they didnt got it working...
And the Pro got the same proccesor/chipset ast the Diamond..
we created a research page with links to the kernel relevant wiki pages:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelResearch
dcordes said:
can a moderator move this to raphael rom development please?
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Done... and good luck!
As i wrote last time, i didn´t get running the kernel for Kaiser (Latest Build) and Vogue (Latest Build).
Now it seems that the problem is or at least could be related to the storage card. It´s a common problem that sdhc-cards over 4gb won´t work as a android drive. so maybe anyone can try it with a card that fit the needs - i have only a 8gb model?
Good Luck and post every result!
I have tried vogue version on my raphael but it hangs on booting linux... 100% and i it hangs every time.
files are on phone not on sd card.
/Andre'
apokryphus said:
As i wrote last time, i didn´t get running the kernel for Kaiser (Latest Build) and Vogue (Latest Build).
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It is not a big surprise, because Raphael has a different CPU.
Now it seems that the problem is or at least could be related to the storage card.
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The SD controller on MSM7200 CPU is located in a different memory area
compared to the MSM7200A CPU.
Edited, I thought you meant a different processor than the G1.
Kinda stupid why people funny toil to try execute a linux on a wm6 device?decide whitch one uu want then buy... 4 my is awful idea have linux on my diamond pro no thx...
seeing forward to try android for this phone.
waiting...
/andre'
norrback said:
seeing forward to try android for this phone.
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We need the G1 kernel source, and modules (if there would be some closed-source drivers). I have documented many (most?) MSM gpios,
the DRAM config is known too. I'm researching the Hitachi LCD setup
because G1 has a different panel, so it will be necessary to modify
the init/suspend routines.
donottouch said:
awful idea have linux on my diamond pro no thx...
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Well, we don't post here that virtually everything from micro$oft sux, don't we ?
I'm not a big google fan, but fighting the monoculture is always a good thing.
cr2 said:
Well, we don't post here that virtually everything from micro$oft sux, don't we ?
I'm not a big google fan, but fighting the monoculture is always a good thing.
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Totally agree.
wm is the best mobile os at the moment unfortunately (if android is not counted), nokia's symbian just plainly.. eh, stinks. and so on.
Android would be really nice, waiting for it to raphael, even as a flashable rom! That would be so awesome! (we dont need WM to flash, it works straight from the bootloader, so why not!)
Rottis said:
Totally agree.
wm is the best mobile os at the moment unfortunately (if android is not counted), nokia's symbian just plainly.. eh, stinks. and so on.
Android would be really nice, waiting for it to raphael, even as a flashable rom! That would be so awesome! (we dont need WM to flash, it works straight from the bootloader, so why not!)
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You hit my point of view!

LINUX on gene

hi ,
is there any one here whoz intrested in installing linux on gene or anyone who can guide me on how to do that
thx
Linux on Gene
Hey I am interested in installing Linux on gene.
count me also
actually we can do it
did u have any link or page so we can get started ??
ankit360 said:
count me also
actually we can do it
did u have any link or page so we can get started ??
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Hi ankit,
i am not a geek when it comes to creating roms or porting linux on gene but i am intrested in doing that...i was searching the internet and i found this page..Hope this helps you to give some idea about it...
http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary
am interested too
Hey Man I am really a linux Lover, Take me into consideration...
I am really looking for installing linux on my gene.....
Can you tell which flavor u r taking for it.......
bhushangahire said:
Hey Man I am really a linux Lover, Take me into consideration...I am really looking for installing linux on my gene.....Can you tell which flavor u r taking for it.......
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hey dude i am a novice when it comes to Linux..what do you mean by what flavor of Linux???
lets start from android
ankit360 said:
lets start from android
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hi Ankit...
check this link..its from kaiser rom development...thought it might help us...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470649
This Kaiser port don't work on Gene. They have a different hardware.
The first thing needed to run Android is a kernel that support our hardware.
A good place to start is here. They have a kernel (linwizard) that may boot on our device.
oh....very nice thought..U all r doing great job....
carry on...
@ ramersonw
is it like emulation or it will boot directly ???
r u interested in it so we can make it possible
It's a kind of emulation. The kernel will run on wimo using Haret. The linwizard project has a version of Haret that works in the Gene processor(TI OMAP850). It's like a vmware prog.
To run linux on our device we have to:
1st. we have to make the Haret work with the processor of the gene (stable)
2nd. make the Linux kernel works with the hardware of the gene (write drivers for touch screen, cellular radio , bluetooth radio, etc)
If we have it, we can run Android, Opie, GPE any flavor of linux for mobile.
I'm very interested in port linux (Android) to gene, but is not an easy task and will also consume very much time.
ramersonw said:
It's a kind of emulation. The kernel will run on wimo using Haret. The linwizard project has a version of Haret that works in the Gene processor(TI OMAP850). It's like a vmware prog.
To run linux on our device we have to:
1st. we have to make the Haret work with the processor of the gene (stable)
2nd. make the Linux kernel works with the hardware of the gene (write drivers for touch screen, cellular radio , bluetooth radio, etc)
If we have it, we can run Android, Opie, GPE any flavor of linux for mobile.
I'm very interested in port linux (Android) to gene, but is not an easy task and will also consume very much time.
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but i think if we use emulsion I think we cannot use or get full power of linux or android
but let's start with emulation then we think about boot diretly
so lets start with android I will start this project this week and post update
we can make it possible
anybody interested ¿???????
ankit360 said:
but i think if we use emulsion I think we cannot use or get full power of linux or android
but let's start with emulation then we think about boot diretly
so lets start with android I will start this project this week and post update
we can make it possible
anybody interested ¿???????
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count me in...i am ready
hi ankit
when you say `count me in' what implications does it have...hehehe just in case...
im also VERY interested in a faster stabler gene...and i feel linux is the way to go...BUT ive recetly used windows 7 on a dual boot with my vista system and i tell you it is FAST...in fact not only faster than vista but even XP on a 512 mb ram system!!!
...also i must admit it is MUCH slicker and faster than the LinuxMint 6.0 based on ubuntu 8.10 which i had running on my system!
...what im trying to say here is that if MSoft does to WM& what they have done to Vista in Windows 7, i think we r better off using WM7 than linux...for all practical purposes!
Regards
hotdoc0
hotdoc0 said:
hi ankit
when you say `count me in' what implications does it have...hehehe just in .....practical purposes!
Regards
hotdoc0
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Not necessarily. Linux is probably the most stable OS after SCO, if I am not wrong. And it is also the most light weight OS as well. I guess you can run Linux on a P II 450 MHz system with all the goodies with fair speed . So imagine what it can do to your Gene .
don't start linux vs windows war here
ankit360 said:
don't start linux vs windows war here
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Ya, Uske liye thindigit forum hi kafi hai, kyun ankit?
Linux vs Windows
Ofcourse, I don't have any intention, otherwise why would own to WM Devices ?
One of them would have been Moto Ming . What I was saying is since a few you guys (the real developers) are thinking about porting Linux to Gene, there is no point arguing about sticking to WM for the heck of it, come on you people are developers, and once you get your hands on source code, may be you will make it even better than WM! Hope you are getting my point (I am not a developer though).

[INFO] UBUNTU for any arm based devise..

ubuntu can be designed from the scratch for any arm based device .
this is just a humble request to senior devs to check it out and try to port it on our wave.
even if modem would not work for arm ubuntu it would be useful in other aspects like usb hosting, full pc based firefox experience,full doc editing,and something new that our wave would have.
htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootStock/RunNative
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch
even android porting is on half stage. I think dev's are gonna handle the android thing. Maybe they will after android but Android has priority
furkey said:
even android porting is on half stage. I think dev's are gonna handle the android thing. Maybe they will after android but Android has priority
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Well, a working Ubuntu port can be easier than the Android, as one don't have to pay attention to the modem (however determining the battery level still would be a problem...). But I run some rounds with the current kernel to make console available and all my atepts failed, I was not able to get it work... What would you do without console?
anghelyi said:
Well, a working Ubuntu port can be easier than the Android, as one don't have to pay attention to the modem (however determining the battery level still would be a problem...). But I run some rounds with the current kernel to make console available and all my atepts failed, I was not able to get it work... What would you do without console?
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may be this may help you
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900
Hmmm i think all guys are busy in porting android and making voluntas browser etc also they have their own life so let them work on other things first.
Also did u tried ubuntu through badadroid ?? Did it worked.??

[Q] Any scope of development on Windows?

can some1 just tell me if developpment has any scope using windows os
can i build cm form source without linux or ubuntu
I have not started on tutorials since most of them advice to use linux or ubuntu
so if there is a way to development on windows can u all tell me, how it is possible
or a tutorial ?
Just so u know my computer has 2gb ram and intel hd graphics
so i cant run emulators
Thnx in advance
 @Hnk1 help
T3snake said:
can some1 just tell me if developpment has any scope using windows os
can i build cm form source without linux or ubuntu
I have not started on tutorials since most of them advice to use linux or ubuntu
so if there is a way to development on windows can u all tell me, how it is possible
or a tutorial ?
Just so u know my computer has 2gb ram and intel hd graphics
so i cant run emulators
Thnx in advance
@Hnk1 help
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As a beginner, I would suggest you start with windows/Linux mint. Linux/Ubuntu are for more advanced users and thus provide less friendly interface. There might be a dispute which OS is best. For Android, I would suggest LINUX.
Development requires large amount of disk space (up to 200-500gb); very fast PC (8 or more recommended) high end PC (icore 5 but icore7 recommended)
You might be able to start on windows for small projects with your PC but algorithms would take 6-12 hours rather than half an hour on a high end PC. I know many developers using minimal PC to work so it means more time for processes to finish.
For example
UBUNTU might be better because android is developed under linux with java base. So using Windows might need some adjustments while development. Also, Eclipse is preferred for all development for Android.(programme name)
As android is based on linux, using same base/framework is a key advantage. Ubuntu/Linux is that's why preferred so no more adjustments are made and thus its quicker to develop on Linux. This is because of same internal architecture used by Linux/ubuntu and Android.All Android applications use Linux as its base and java libraries for programming. Java and Linux both being open source can easily be synchronized. The simulation on Linux platform is also fast as compared to windows. You can even download some system files patches for Linux if there is any compatibility problem but it is not possible for windows.
Android/Java/Linux are all open sourced(libraries n API)and easier to debug.
Linux mint is more friendly than Ubuntu in comparision in my opinion.
Another advantage of Linux/ubuntu is booting time/quick interface as windows easily gets laggy after some time.
In the end it comes to user preference.It takes a variety of tools to make software, including drawing tools, so the OS is not that important but helpful to have both Linux and Win. You will need code editors and drawing tools.
Hnk1 said:
As a beginner, I would suggest you start with windows/Linux mint. Linux/Ubuntu are for more advanced users and thus provide less friendly interface. There might be a dispute which OS is best. For Android, I would suggest LINUX.
Development requires large amount of disk space (up to 200-500gb); very fast PC (8 or more recommended) high end PC (icore 5 but icore7 recommended)
You might be able to start on windows for small projects with your PC but algorithms would take 6-12 hours rather than half an hour on a high end PC. I know many developers using minimal PC to work so it means more time for processes to finish.
For example
UBUNTU might be better because android is developed under linux with java base. So using Windows might need some adjustments while development. Also, Eclipse is preferred for all development for Android.(programme name)
As android is based on linux, using same base/framework is a key advantage. Ubuntu/Linux is that's why preferred so no more adjustments are made and thus its quicker to develop on Linux. This is because of same internal architecture used by Linux/ubuntu and Android.All Android applications use Linux as its base and java libraries for programming. Java and Linux both being open source can easily be synchronized. The simulation on Linux platform is also fast as compared to windows. You can even download some system files patches for Linux if there is any compatibility problem but it is not possible for windows.
Android/Java/Linux are all open sourced(libraries n API)and easier to debug.
Linux mint is more friendly than Ubuntu in comparision in my opinion.
Another advantage of Linux/ubuntu is booting time/quick interface as windows easily gets laggy after some time.
In the end it comes to user preference.It takes a variety of tools to make software, including drawing tools, so the OS is not that important but helpful to have both Linux and Win. You will need code editors and drawing tools.
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Yea the emulator for testing didnt even bootup till now
ill just have to postpone advanced development until i get a newer pc
My last Question....
does android kitchen support this device?
or partially supported? or anything close?
T3snake said:
Yea the emulator for testing didnt even bootup till now
ill just have to postpone advanced development until i get a newer pc
My last Question....
does android kitchen support this device?
or partially supported? or anything close?
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I don't think android kitchen is supported
T3snake said:
can some1 just tell me if developpment has any scope using windows os
can i build cm form source without linux or ubuntu
I have not started on tutorials since most of them advice to use linux or ubuntu
so if there is a way to development on windows can u all tell me, how it is possible
or a tutorial ?
Just so u know my computer has 2gb ram and intel hd graphics
so i cant run emulators
Thnx in advance
@Hnk1 help
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I hav ubuntu on my laptop... nd I really want cm on our device but my main problem is that my internet is really slow and cm11 source is around 10 gb which might take weeks on my pc...
T3snake said:
can some1 just tell me if developpment has any scope using windows os
can i build cm form source without linux or ubuntu
I have not started on tutorials since most of them advice to use linux or ubuntu
so if there is a way to development on windows can u all tell me, how it is possible
or a tutorial ?
Just so u know my computer has 2gb ram and intel hd graphics
so i cant run emulators
Thnx in advance
@Hnk1 help
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for developing android apps.. windows works.. and a fair computer will do... unless you plan to develop something huge...
AVD's have problem with low specs on windows.... try emulating with GenyMotion
and unless you have a gpu.. the graphics won't really matter much..
and as far as building android/cm goes.. you need linux or mac os..
you could build on virtual box.. if you had whopping 16 gb of ram..
maybe cygwin works.. but i don;t know...
and it isn't hard to install ubuntu alongside windows.. all you need is a usb drive and a x64 live cd from their website.. and some patience..
ubuntu is just feels out of place for first time windows user... if you used Mac Os.. it' s easy.. the dock and the universal title bar are not hard to get.. after some time you will be more comfortable with ubuntu than windows.. or that was the case for me..
you need processing power of cpu for building... sure you can build on a p4.. but time is a great factor here.. i7 can compile faster than i5.. and it goes like that..
by the way.. i know a guy who built cm on a 4gb ram and intel core duo... took around 7 hours he said..
psych.half said:
i know a guy who built cm on a 4gb ram and intel core duo... took around 7 hours he said..
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I hav 6gb ram and i7 processor but my internet download speed is jst 60 kbps...
Vortex99 said:
I hav 6gb ram and i7 processor but my internet download speed is jst 60 kbps...
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buddy you don't need to download the whole 12gb of source code..
if you only plan to build for a specific device... you don't need the all platform codes for arm/ mips/ x86 or prebuilt binaries for mac os and x86 and x64..
you can select only required prebuilts and projects for your current device and current os by creating an xml file with some modifications in
.repo/local_manifests directory.. then you can reduce size of the source code...
and at 60kbps.. let's average that to 55 kb/ps... it would take around... 53 hours
but you can do continue syncing where you left off... kinda like pause and resume... so maybe in a week you will have the source code..
and just make source you sync the frameworks_base at last.. that one repository alone is over 1 gb.. O_O
psych.half said:
buddy you don't need to download the whole 12gb of source code..
if you only plan to build for a specific device... you don't need the all platform codes for arm/ mips/ x86 or prebuilt binaries for mac os and x86 and x64..
you can select only required prebuilts and projects for your current device and current os by creating an xml file with some modifications in
.repo/local_manifests directory.. then you can reduce size of the source code...
and at 60kbps.. let's average that to 55 kb/ps... it would take around... 53 hours
but you can do continue syncing where you left off... kinda like pause and resume... so maybe in a week you will have the source code..
and just make source you sync the frameworks_base at last.. that one repository alone is over 1 gb.. O_O
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So ur sayin I can pause during the repo sync command... ??
How can I do that... ??
Now I am really getting interested... but I hav exams right now and my laptop hard disk has failed... btw can you give me detailed explanation about building cm from source or atleast post a link to guide. .. I hav seen many guides but all of them are confusing...
Vortex99 said:
So ur sayin I can pause during the repo sync command... ??
How can I do that... ??
Now I am really getting interested... but I hav exams right now and my laptop hard disk has failed... btw can you give me detailed explanation about building cm from source or atleast post a link to guide. .. I hav seen many guides but all of them are confusing...
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well.. it's not pause.. it's like.. let's say you have already downloaded 16%.. and you stopped it that.. and turn off your pc..
next time you open pc and run repo sync.. it will check if sources have changed.. if not it will continue to sync from there..
it's just matter of copy and pasting commands to set up sources....it is not that hard..
hmmm... how about i set up the build environment for you on your laptop via ssh .. when your laptop is fixed.. pm me for your thoughts on this..
psych.half said:
well.. it's not pause.. it's like.. let's say you have already downloaded 16%.. and you stopped it that.. and turn off your pc..
next time you open pc and run repo sync.. it will check if sources have changed.. if not it will continue to sync from there..
it's just matter of copy and pasting commands to set up sources....it is not that hard..
hmmm... how about i set up the build environment for you on your laptop via ssh .. when your laptop is fixed.. pm me for your thoughts on this..
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yea sure m gonna let you know about it...

WinCe 6.0 Embedded MIPS apps

Hello everybody,
I have the new Clio 4 Medianav system, is based on WinCe 6.0 embedded, i found a lot of application for this windows system...but the majority parts is for ARM processor :crying:
Can you help find me MIPS application?
Offtopic:
I would like to try programming on wince but I have no idea how set visual studio 2008 for do it..
I usually program website, PLC and microprocessor PIC... I know what does it mean the "Programming" word :angel: )
Thank you!
forna91 said:
Hello everybody,
I have the new Clio 4 Medianav system, is based on WinCe 6.0 embedded, i found a lot of application for this windows system...but the majority parts is for ARM processor :crying:
Can you help find me MIPS application?
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Who should spend the time? DIY!
Just for info:
Windows CE isn't a desktop OS where peripherals use a common set of busses and addresses and a single OS build that knows how to integrate all of these. There isn't a "Windows CE Image" for just any given processor, the OS image must be built for your exact hardware. Memory maps, peripherals, drivers and a load of other things can change from board to board, even with the same processor.
These "differences" are encapsulated in what's known as a BSP or board support package. You generally must have that for your target hardware, then you can generate a new OS image containing the OS features you want for that hardware.
The short of this is, that no one can tell you whether there are applications out there that are compatible with the OS image used on your Medianav system.
Windows CE for devices with ARM CPU is standarized, because the underlaying hardware is mostly identical. So hundreds of applications for this OS image exist. And it's very easy to write your own.
jwoegerbauer said:
Who should spend the time? DIY!
The short of this is, that no one can tell you whether there are applications out there that are compatible with the OS image used on your Medianav system.
Windows CE for devices with ARM CPU is standarized, because the underlaying hardware is mostly identical. So hundreds of applications for this OS image exist. And it's very easy to write your own.
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I found the technical datasheet of motherboard with cpu processor type and all the hardware (cpu is a AU1320 all exe are programmed for an R4000 cpu) but the problem is one...I'am a noob on windows embedded..I would like to learn it bit I don't think to find too many people who wants teach me it :crying:
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I'am a noob on windows embedded..I would like to learn it
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Perhaps this Microsoft book
https://www.microsoft.com/learning/en-us/book.aspx?id=11064
takes you one step further.
This practical, authoritative, popular reference now in its fourth edition shows developers how to develop applications for the newest generation of mobile and embedded devices. Focusing on the core operating system of Windows Embedded CE 6.0, this guide covers memory management, files and file systems, registries, databases, notifications, communications, and more. It s based on the author s extensive experience training developers focused on embedded technologies how to use Windows CE to its fullest capabilities, and covers the latest features in Windows Embedded CE 6.0. The book includes a link to a companion Web site with extensive sample applications in Visual C++.
Thank you for this book...now I see if buy it
There are lots of older MIPS apps (CE 3 and older) that can work. A lot of info and many downloads can be found at hpcfactor.com. I have two MIPS devices using a similar processor (Au1250) and a slightly older OS (CE 5.0): the Viliv X5 and Cowon P5, about which I have posted threads in the Windows CE 5.0 section of hpcfactor.com. (I can't post the links because I'm still considered a newbie here, but just go to the forum list on hpcfactor.com and you'll see that section.)
Because a lot of apps in the Windows Mobile forums here at xda-developers.com were written for the .NET Compact Framework 2.0 and 3.5, installing MIPS versions of .NET CF 2.0 or 3.5 (if they are not already installed on your device) may allow many of those apps to work on your device as well. There's some discussion of this as well in the two threads I mentioned above. (Check which version of .NET CF is on it already first, though. If it has 2.0 already, after installing 3.5 make sure that both versions are activated in the registry under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/.NET Compact Framework.)
well thank you for that site!! I found now a regedit...tomorrow i try it because others don't works :crying: fortunatly there is a debug usb in the radio and with visual studio I think that we can read it :good:
Have you had any succes on doing so? I also have the MediaNav Evolution system (v9.1.4) and I have something in mind... But im totally lost!
P.S.: Would you mind sharing the technical datasheet of the motherboard and CPU?

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