I have no limits on my SMS messages (cause I'm a packrat), yet every time I open the messaging application it asks me if I'd like to set limits on conversations. I select "no limits" every time, but it still pops up every time.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere, so am I the only one?
Are you using the default messaging app? It sounds like caused by a 3rd party app setting or some kind of data restriction that you've put on it.
And you do have unlimited text right? Check your t-mo myaccount app to see if you've put the alert on.
I tried to ask the same thing. Nothing yet.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774573
This is only an issue for extreme SMS packrats....
In the message app settings you can disable the auto deletion of messages that run past the set cap (defaults are 200 for sms, 20 for mms). So, disable deletion and increase the cap.
The SMS setting apparently has a hard cap at 5000. If that isn't enough ...well.....although that not being enough would normally entice me to make semi sarcastic remarks about hobbies, spare time, and the relative power of ones sphincter muscles, there are at least apps that can backup your sms threads for you.
SMSBackup for instance will let you backup SMS threads to your gmail acct. Since you can always access your gmail acct from your phone, this should be as good as packratting every friggin text directly on your phone. If you need to remind someone of what they said to you 7996 messages ago, sheerly for the "told you so factor" this can work. A bit creepy, but this can work!
And this is but one of many apps to back up SMS....
Consider the hard limit a feature, and backup your SMS to get them off your phone. That's my two cents...
Thank you. That's a great approach to this problem. It solves it for me.
I have a black list of contacts. I want block incoming and outgoing sms for this contacts. How block incoming sms I know, but how about outgoing sms?
Please, help me with this task.
Thanks a lot!
I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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missparker76 said:
I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
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It's not so easy
I want to block some contacts, so that my children never have written to them
I can think of 2 options quickly:
1. Don't let the kids use the phone
2. Buy them their own phone
I suppose an application could be created to do what you want. Or maybe something like adding a password to certain entires in you Contacts.
I'm actually finishing-up an app that functions as a SMS spam blocker; maybe my next app will be adding a password function to Contacts.
Just checked android default sms app and sms content provider source code, it looks like it's not possible to intercept and cancel outgoing message. It's a pity that we're not able to add this functionality to our future parental control app.
I'm not overly impressed with whomever coded the SMS and Contacts databases and have given considerable thought to writing my own. I found this out when writing my SpamText blocker which I kind of put on the back-burner due to fear of deleting ALL text messages from someone's phone. That whole "thread_id" is scary, at least to me.
I like the "conversations" feature of SMS, but it really should be broken-down by day or make any text in the conversation deleteable. I might get 10 texts from one person in a day, but just might want to save 4 of them because they have some valuable information.
Then there is a security issue with coding this type of application; Android gives the developer a lot of rope regarding messaging.
If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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I think the use case is just to allow children to sms and call to fixed numbers only.
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or make any text in the conversation deleteable.
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You can't delete individual texts? What?
Nope, at least on my Droid X default SMS client. All distinct phone numbers and SMS messages are grouped together in a "conversation" no matter if that person texts 10 times in one day or 100 times over 6 months.
I know you can set a message limit, but I'm not sure what it does if you set it to 5 and get the 6th message from the same #; maybe someone else knows...
I have been searching for blocking outgoing test messages also but for a different reason.
I live near the border and allthough my phone is set to only my home network every now and than it switches to roaming and pretty often I send text messages by accident while roaming. Sometimes it switches networks while I am typing the message or it looses connection and I am at the mercy of which network it will connect and send the text message.
So an app that would block outgoing text messages while roaming (or maybe even only sending on home network) would come in very handy.
Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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You should read my post! Obviously I need all my contacts to call/text whenever I am not roaming!
I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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As far as I know there is no way of intercepting outgoing messages. very strange that we can do almost anything on a smartphone but have very limited control over basic operations like sending text message options.
Same goes for LED notification, should be standard on all phones. (2 of my biggest annoyances espcially as it concerns very basic phone operations)
Android system does not provide a way to block outgoing SMS.
The similar question was discussed on Android Developers hung out on
26-Apr-2012, and Android Developers stated clearly that it is not
possible.
One suggestion was to put the phone into Airplane mode at the time of
sent SMS intent, but again its unlikely to put the phone into
airplane mode pro-grammatically.
The similar issue has been already discussed on android-platform Group
as well.
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want to block foreign sms's
I also have the above problem of my wife sending texts to foreign countries and getting charged. Usually she sends via fishtext which is affordable but every now and then if she is in a hurry or forgets to use the fishtext widget she sends via normal sms mode which costs a ton.
I cant believe there is no simple app to stop the user sending sms's.
Everyone has a 'cute' solution (like delete the contacts lol!) but they don't realise the difficulty of trying to manage another persons phone but one that you still have to pay the bills for e.g. kids or spouse.
Surely there must be an app out there that does this although I can currently find it!!!
Anyone??
There some app in android send sms without permission
It is always not easy when children are involved in any process They are so quick that sometimes it is difficult to notice that they have taken your phone and started pressing buttons. When you realize it, it is already late and the messages have been sent.
Why not get an app locker and lock the messaging app.
On a per contact basis, many apps have block features built in but not to block sms completely.
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I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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Some apps send messages without your consent.
And even some ROMs.
For example son phones (Xiaomi) with MIUI try to send an SMS to China to activate your SIM but they don't do it well, it doesn't work you spend money every time you reboot your phone.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Here is my pseudo-complicated situation: I have a gate sensor at the front of my property that communicates wirelessly to my automation system. The system can then notify me via text or email anytime my gate sensor is tripped. I would like for my phone to simply act as a doorbell by just making a sound anytime someone drives through my gate. So far I have accomplished this but unfortunately for my organized & partially OCD brain, my phone's notification bar is overloaded with messages that I have to clear several times per day. Basically, I would like for it to make a sound but not to show any icon or notification in the pull-down notifications menu.
I have tried several SMS apps (Handcent, GO SMS Pro, Chomp, Textra and stock) and have been unable to find a way to accomplish this. The closest thing I've found is to use the "privacy inbox" on several of these apps that allows me to place any messages from the automation system into a different inbox. I'm able to give it a different sound, different icon and different (or no) LED blink color. Unfortunately, this still leaves my notifications pull-down menu riddled with alerts from my gate sensor.
I don't know if there is an Android-based work-around or if anyone can recommend a decent SMS app that would give me this option. I have tried the same thing with email but not only do I run into the same problem, but the delay in the syncing of the email defeats the purpose because the person will usually already be at my door before I hear the tone. Because of this, I would like to stick with the SMS method.
There may also be another option that is outside the box that I have yet to consider.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Ryan
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With the advent of desktop messaging, I'd like to use Android Messages as my default SMS app. One main feature still missing from Android messages is the ability to auto delete messages once a thread hits a certain number of messages. I find that my sms database gets too huge and can slow things down. Are there any apps that will cleanup sms messages like that? I assume it couldn't be done automatically since I'd have to make it my default sms handler to work, but running something like that occasionally would be fine. Cleanup by date older than x isn't great since there are some old threads I want to keep, I'd rather do something like a max of 250 messages per thread.
I guess based on the lack of any replies that there is no app that can do this. Seems like a good opportunity for someone.
Hello,
I use/rely on Send SMS actions in multiple macros, throughout the macro stages to give me real time updates of what's happening in the Macros. It works fine for most parts.
The problem with some mobile carriers, specifically the one I use: Mint mobile (which is a MVNO on the T-Mobile network) that after sending many text messages, they might block you from sending new messages or put an invisible bottle neck so some text messages might arrive with a big delay or won't arrive at all. This makes it very unreliable and tricky as some "notification received" based triggers that you know that were supposed to trigger but didn't, so it's not entirely clear if it's because some legit issue with the notification not being received or identified by Macrodroid (yes, I know you can look at the macro logs) or just because your mobile carrier prevented you from receiving new text messages for a short duration.
All of this, is leading me to look for Send SMS alternatives (don't think Send Email is a good enough alternative as I want to receive notifications in my phone - And emails could suffer from the issues described above too) that don't require UI Interaction, and let me explain why: These are the main cons/issues with sending messages that require UI Interaction (for example Send WhatsApp message action that's being offered inside Macrodroid):
a.) If you have any macro that uses UI Interaction, and you want to send a message throughout the macro, because sending a message requires UI Interaction, this could break the existing flow of the macro as you need to be able to return to the same screen and state that you had before you had to send a message through UI Interaction.
b.) If you have multiple macros being triggered at the same time, and they all need to send messages, this will create a race condition - So what do you do? I don't think Macrodroid has a semaphore mechanism to prevent such case? As you basically need to make any existing macro to go to sleep, wait until the current macro that's using ui interaction to send a message finishes, before the ones that wait can continue in the same order they requested to send the message.
With that being said, are there any alternative ways (without rooting the phone) to send messages through 3rd party apps, without using UI Interaction?
Some methods to consider:
1.) Can you use the "send intent" action to tell an app to send a message to a certain user/phone without actually using UI Interaction? I know this could pose a security risk and it's unlikely to exist in any major big 3rd party messaging apps, but maybe smaller ones or ones that were created exactly for this purpose (such as MDHelper is using an older SDK to support certain actions that Macrodroid can't do)?
2.) Could you use some sort of APIs of certain big messaging apps, such as WhatsApp, Skype, Viber, Telegram, etc to send a message to a certain user/phone just by issuing some API call? Is there any support like that in Macrodroid to login to these services and then send messages (This is more Postman program level I suppose so might be a little out of scope)?
3.) Perhaps a more practical approach to avoid issues a & b, is simply not to use UI Interaction but simply send a message with the details (using send email or something like that - which again, as stated above, might not be 100% reliable) to another machine/phone that handles sending the messages, which is creating another point of failure, and could add some overhead/delay, so might not be the most ideal solution either.
Any other methods or alternatives that you know or could recommend?
Thank you.