I have no limits on my SMS messages (cause I'm a packrat), yet every time I open the messaging application it asks me if I'd like to set limits on conversations. I select "no limits" every time, but it still pops up every time.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere, so am I the only one?
Are you using the default messaging app? It sounds like caused by a 3rd party app setting or some kind of data restriction that you've put on it.
And you do have unlimited text right? Check your t-mo myaccount app to see if you've put the alert on.
I tried to ask the same thing. Nothing yet.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774573
This is only an issue for extreme SMS packrats....
In the message app settings you can disable the auto deletion of messages that run past the set cap (defaults are 200 for sms, 20 for mms). So, disable deletion and increase the cap.
The SMS setting apparently has a hard cap at 5000. If that isn't enough ...well.....although that not being enough would normally entice me to make semi sarcastic remarks about hobbies, spare time, and the relative power of ones sphincter muscles, there are at least apps that can backup your sms threads for you.
SMSBackup for instance will let you backup SMS threads to your gmail acct. Since you can always access your gmail acct from your phone, this should be as good as packratting every friggin text directly on your phone. If you need to remind someone of what they said to you 7996 messages ago, sheerly for the "told you so factor" this can work. A bit creepy, but this can work!
And this is but one of many apps to back up SMS....
Consider the hard limit a feature, and backup your SMS to get them off your phone. That's my two cents...
Thank you. That's a great approach to this problem. It solves it for me.
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I keep getting this when I go to messaging. Is there any way to stop it? I don't want to limit my messages.
in the messaging settings there's an option to 'delete old messages ' where you can also limit how many you save on the phone... just turn it off or increase it... its on by default...
Delete old messages is unchecked in Messaging options. Since it's unchecked and I have a lot of messages, the "Limit messages" pops up every time I open messaging even though I click "No Limits" every time. The max limit is 5000 (if I want to set a limit) which is too low for my liking. It is as though Samsung really wants people to limit their messages. I think they should add a remember-my-choice check box for this pop-up.
5000 is too low?
um......nevermind
I am not the only one with this problem.
thegreatcity said:
I have no limits on my SMS messages (cause I'm a packrat), yet every time I open the messaging application it asks me if I'd like to set limits on conversations. I select "no limits" every time, but it still pops up every time.
Haven't seen this posted anywhere, so am I the only one?
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I, like thegreatcity, am a packrat, so I have no limits on my SMS. I try to get around the pop-up by setting a high limit so that I can never get close to it, but 5000 is the max I can set it to. So the plan to get around the pop-up did not work.
Lol, yeah i hate that. also i think when the reserves are met all messages are purged. i lost all my texts and there's no way to recover it.
Yea i want to keep the msg at the beginning..but that pop-up is so annoying and i finally give up...u win Samsung vibrant
I have a black list of contacts. I want block incoming and outgoing sms for this contacts. How block incoming sms I know, but how about outgoing sms?
Please, help me with this task.
Thanks a lot!
I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
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It's not so easy
I want to block some contacts, so that my children never have written to them
I can think of 2 options quickly:
1. Don't let the kids use the phone
2. Buy them their own phone
I suppose an application could be created to do what you want. Or maybe something like adding a password to certain entires in you Contacts.
I'm actually finishing-up an app that functions as a SMS spam blocker; maybe my next app will be adding a password function to Contacts.
Just checked android default sms app and sms content provider source code, it looks like it's not possible to intercept and cancel outgoing message. It's a pity that we're not able to add this functionality to our future parental control app.
I'm not overly impressed with whomever coded the SMS and Contacts databases and have given considerable thought to writing my own. I found this out when writing my SpamText blocker which I kind of put on the back-burner due to fear of deleting ALL text messages from someone's phone. That whole "thread_id" is scary, at least to me.
I like the "conversations" feature of SMS, but it really should be broken-down by day or make any text in the conversation deleteable. I might get 10 texts from one person in a day, but just might want to save 4 of them because they have some valuable information.
Then there is a security issue with coding this type of application; Android gives the developer a lot of rope regarding messaging.
If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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If your children are the one whos playing with your phone, why don't you use one of those pw locking apps? You can choose to lock whichever app you want with it.
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I think the use case is just to allow children to sms and call to fixed numbers only.
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or make any text in the conversation deleteable.
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You can't delete individual texts? What?
Nope, at least on my Droid X default SMS client. All distinct phone numbers and SMS messages are grouped together in a "conversation" no matter if that person texts 10 times in one day or 100 times over 6 months.
I know you can set a message limit, but I'm not sure what it does if you set it to 5 and get the 6th message from the same #; maybe someone else knows...
I have been searching for blocking outgoing test messages also but for a different reason.
I live near the border and allthough my phone is set to only my home network every now and than it switches to roaming and pretty often I send text messages by accident while roaming. Sometimes it switches networks while I am typing the message or it looses connection and I am at the mercy of which network it will connect and send the text message.
So an app that would block outgoing text messages while roaming (or maybe even only sending on home network) would come in very handy.
Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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Why don't you just delete the contacts? Easiest solution
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You should read my post! Obviously I need all my contacts to call/text whenever I am not roaming!
I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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I m also interested in blocking outgoing msg to specific number, my wife is Canada so she send me msgs from her canadian phone no. and I reply to serbian one, which is free - included in my monthly fee, but every now and than i reply to her canadian which costs me, and it wouldnt be big of a deal, but my courier dont have contract with hers so they charge for the sms, which she doesnt receive, so was trying to find a way to block outgoing msg to her canadian no. but need to be able to receive from it
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As far as I know there is no way of intercepting outgoing messages. very strange that we can do almost anything on a smartphone but have very limited control over basic operations like sending text message options.
Same goes for LED notification, should be standard on all phones. (2 of my biggest annoyances espcially as it concerns very basic phone operations)
Android system does not provide a way to block outgoing SMS.
The similar question was discussed on Android Developers hung out on
26-Apr-2012, and Android Developers stated clearly that it is not
possible.
One suggestion was to put the phone into Airplane mode at the time of
sent SMS intent, but again its unlikely to put the phone into
airplane mode pro-grammatically.
The similar issue has been already discussed on android-platform Group
as well.
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want to block foreign sms's
I also have the above problem of my wife sending texts to foreign countries and getting charged. Usually she sends via fishtext which is affordable but every now and then if she is in a hurry or forgets to use the fishtext widget she sends via normal sms mode which costs a ton.
I cant believe there is no simple app to stop the user sending sms's.
Everyone has a 'cute' solution (like delete the contacts lol!) but they don't realise the difficulty of trying to manage another persons phone but one that you still have to pay the bills for e.g. kids or spouse.
Surely there must be an app out there that does this although I can currently find it!!!
Anyone??
There some app in android send sms without permission
It is always not easy when children are involved in any process They are so quick that sometimes it is difficult to notice that they have taken your phone and started pressing buttons. When you realize it, it is already late and the messages have been sent.
Why not get an app locker and lock the messaging app.
On a per contact basis, many apps have block features built in but not to block sms completely.
missparker76 said:
I don't see the problem with outgoing sms ??? Just don't text these people.
As for incoming sms have you tried applications like Call & SMS Filter or Call Blocker X?
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Some apps send messages without your consent.
And even some ROMs.
For example son phones (Xiaomi) with MIUI try to send an SMS to China to activate your SIM but they don't do it well, it doesn't work you spend money every time you reboot your phone.
Yesterday, for the first time, I realized that my X10 has a SMS limit. I could not send or receive any SMS until I purged out a few messages by deleting several conversations. I saw somewhere on this forum an app/tool that provided for SMS/MMS settings that would automatically purge messages when the limit is reached. For the life of me, I cannot find that thread. I have no idea why Sony Ericsson didn't provide more messaging options like my wife's HTC Inspire. I have no reason to save old message, but I want to receive them without limitations.
OK - Maybe there is someway to purge text messages automatically when the limit is reach; any suggestions?
stew32 said:
Yesterday, for the first time, I realized that my X10 has a SMS limit. I could not send or receive any SMS until I purged out a few messages by deleting several conversations. I saw somewhere on this forum an app/tool that provided for SMS/MMS settings that would automatically purge messages when the limit is reached. For the life of me, I cannot find that thread. I have no idea why Sony Ericsson didn't provide more messaging options like my wife's HTC Inspire. I have no reason to save old message, but I want to receive them without limitations.
OK - Maybe there is someway to purge text messages automatically when the limit is reach; any suggestions?
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Try using handcent messaging, way more options,much faster than stock message client and more customization options : D
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I only can say thanks....thanks a lot. Handcent looks amazing. I have a lot to learn, but it would be worth it!
Hey,
I'm having an issue and I'm not sure how to debug or where to seek for solution. Sender told me, that she sent me two messages, received reports, but I had received none. This is really hard to pick out, because if sender gots the report then he usually dont send the message again or tell me about it, unless it was an important message. I just installed Ghostly SMS app, but I'm not sure if it is the case, as my SGS should not be missing of ram, and I wasn't doing anything that would be using ram excessively (probably phone was just at the pocket at this time).
Any ideas how to find the source of such behaviour? My sim card is new, and I'm running omega v43.1 with stock kernel.
Thanks
Usually that is caused by your or the sender's network provider and not one of your device's.
I always notice it wheo sending from Germany to Luxembourg. I get SMS' like 8 hours later (if ever) but sender almost immediately gets the notification.
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Problem is that I'm not using a lot of sms so it is difficult to catch some regularities in such behaviour. But maybe there is something for which I could look in logcat?
If it's caused by your provider as I suspect then your device does not get the sms. Unless you have access to your provider's logs you can't read them.
I've had people call me on sim cards that were not in a device and have it ring through or Sms that were "received" by devices which were not powerd on for months. So yeah =)
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Ok, ghostly SMS just managed to restore 2 messages which didn't show in default messaging app. That makes me sure, that the phone actually receives these messages, so it's not the fault of the provider or sim card.
These 2 messages were received in a different time. After I noticed first one missing, I texted the sender to ask if she wrote me anything else, but she didn't and her answer was also received as a ghost sms. No huge resource consumming apps were running at this point - phone was on the desk with nothing running and screen turned off.
You could try a non-stock Sms app with a priority receiver, such as Go sms.
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Thanks, will give it a shot. But do you think that I should keep the default sms app? There's an option in go sms pro that it can handle messages if the stock app is uninstalled - I could do this using titanium backup or something and restore it in case of problems.
Ok, I did two things:
1. Tried installing Go sms pro along with stock message app - problem still occurs.
2. Tried uninstalling stock sms app and making go sms pro the only app which has to handle sms sending-receiving. But honestly I'm not sure about the results... First because ghostly sms is not working in such scenario, so I had no feedback from this app. Second is that nobody told me that I missed some messages and didn't answer.
So I'm stuck again and have no idea what to do. It happens on different network trans-receivers (I mean its not location dependent), also it is not sender-dependend (I miss even spam messages) and it's not sim-related because I had my sim changed. I believe that there must be something with the stock sms app, otherwise there wouldn't be apps like ghostly sms.
I have had similar issues chronically. Likewise found ghostly sms has received some that stock didn't receive.
In past I have found Go did no better. However, I have not rooted and did not remove stock app.
Among "power but non-root users", I don't think of myself as having lots of apps, but compared to more "normal" users, it is a lot. So I suspect that like me, you may encounter more memory issues than you are aware. I regularly run: facebook, fb messenger, accuweather, hacker keyboard, nitro touchdown, stock email (couple accounts), mypod, xabber, business calendar, stock browser.
Another observation though is the bloat that occurs in the messages database. I receive probably 20-50 messages each day that I can quickly delete (from automated monitor system). If I go to settings -> applications -> all, then I can see data and cache size for Messages is perhaps several MB. Clearing these, I then open Messages and it apparently rebuilds the database, as data size now quite reasonable. No messages lost. If I also reboot, it may send messages that it apparently thinks were not successful (sometimes it is correct, sometimes recipient reports it is a duplicate). However, after this, message delivery seems more reliable for a while.
Now, it doesn't take long for the unreliability to return, at least not 100%, so I will continue running ghostly. But with the occasional rebuild, I no longer have the situation where it seems I am losing most of my incoming, which I have seen.
So, it would seem that the messaging database can get corrupt or performance becomes so poor that it is effectively corrupt.
YMMV, obviously, but hopefully these observations help someone find the real problem. This is a very annoying and serious issue.
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Hey,
I've almost forgot about this thread. I managed to deal with the problem by removing V6 supercharger script from the Omega rom which I use and it seems that for a few weeks now I havent lost any message.
However in your case this must be something different. In information about messaging app I have that the app takes 4.17MB, Data takes 16kB and cache is 0B. Version of my messaging app is reported as 4.1.2.-I9300XXELLC
Garreth88 said:
Hey,
I've almost forgot about this thread. I managed to deal with the problem by removing V6 supercharger script from the Omega rom which I use and it seems that for a few weeks now I havent lost any message.
However in your case this must be something different. In information about messaging app I have that the app takes 4.17MB, Data takes 16kB and cache is 0B. Version of my messaging app is reported as 4.1.2.-I9300XXELLC
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I'm using Omega rom too and I have the same problem. I got all SMS with Ghostly SMS. I notice the problem appear after doing a Nandroid restore or Omega upgrade without full wipe. I will now remove supercharge to see what happen.
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cgaylord said:
I have had similar issues chronically. Likewise found ghostly sms has received some that stock didn't receive.
In past I have found Go did no better. However, I have not rooted and did not remove stock app.
Among "power but non-root users", I don't think of myself as having lots of apps, but compared to more "normal" users, it is a lot. So I suspect that like me, you may encounter more memory issues than you are aware. I regularly run: facebook, fb messenger, accuweather, hacker keyboard, nitro touchdown, stock email (couple accounts), mypod, xabber, business calendar, stock browser.
Another observation though is the bloat that occurs in the messages database. I receive probably 20-50 messages each day that I can quickly delete (from automated monitor system). If I go to settings -> applications -> all, then I can see data and cache size for Messages is perhaps several MB. Clearing these, I then open Messages and it apparently rebuilds the database, as data size now quite reasonable. No messages lost. If I also reboot, it may send messages that it apparently thinks were not successful (sometimes it is correct, sometimes recipient reports it is a duplicate). However, after this, message delivery seems more reliable for a while.
Now, it doesn't take long for the unreliability to return, at least not 100%, so I will continue running ghostly. But with the occasional rebuild, I no longer have the situation where it seems I am losing most of my incoming, which I have seen.
So, it would seem that the messaging database can get corrupt or performance becomes so poor that it is effectively corrupt.
YMMV, obviously, but hopefully these observations help someone find the real problem. This is a very annoying and serious issue.
Sent from my ADR6325 using xda app-developers app
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I tried the same thing (Clear data) for the SMS app didn't help.
Ghostly SMS work.
Like I just mention I will try to disable supercharge to see what happen.
With the advent of desktop messaging, I'd like to use Android Messages as my default SMS app. One main feature still missing from Android messages is the ability to auto delete messages once a thread hits a certain number of messages. I find that my sms database gets too huge and can slow things down. Are there any apps that will cleanup sms messages like that? I assume it couldn't be done automatically since I'd have to make it my default sms handler to work, but running something like that occasionally would be fine. Cleanup by date older than x isn't great since there are some old threads I want to keep, I'd rather do something like a max of 250 messages per thread.
I guess based on the lack of any replies that there is no app that can do this. Seems like a good opportunity for someone.