Any opinions? I'm on KaosFroyo right now and it is amazing but what do you guys think?
Clearly this is all opinion:
CM6. Fastest I've used (noticeably when I play games) and it's really not missing any features... I think facebook sync is working now, gps, everything really except for the camera.
It's weird I think all the camera apps don't work in Froyo. What about the overclock? All the 2.2 roms are at 710 by default right? Even if you dont have setcpu installed?
At the moment they seem to all use a kernel with 710mhz default. The camera is related to the kernel and once the froyo kernel is out we'll have camera.
Try celebfroyo 1.4
My personnel experience has been, KaosFroyo was awesome, but I had some MINOR issues such as launcher pros 3d app drawer lagging real bad, and game performance being somewhat awful. Am now on Cyanogen6 test build. 0 issues. Other than stock camera. Camera magic fixed that for me.
Whitepaint, I had the same issues with games... Zenonia was literally impossible to play lol maybe 10 FPS tops, with CM6 I'm seeing serious improvements.
thanks guys ill go try Cm6
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Try celebfroyo 1.4
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i have tried that Rom and i didnt like it. it was way too slow and laggy for me
CelebFroyo 1.4 i have it over clocked to 806mhz and stable. Linpack 5.5 and quadrent 420. Been really stable aswell. NIKOLAI2.1 Froyo's kernal is 710mhz and yes you can use SetCPU. Mines only stable up to 806
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All of them are excellent works of art ;-)
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CelebFroyo 1.4 i have it over clocked to 806mhz and stable. Linpack 5.5 and quadrent 420. Been really stable aswell. NIKOLAI2.1 Froyo's kernal is 710mhz and yes you can use SetCPU. Mines only stable up to 806
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Haha yeah but my phone will freeze after 768
But hey I'm using CM6 and it's amazing!
itarille said:
All of them are excellent works of art ;-)
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And yes they are!
Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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Just curing do you use surface dithering and/or JIT? CM6 had Jit disabled my default for some reason.
Nikolai2.1 said:
Just curing do you use surface dithering and/or JIT? CM6 had Jit disabled my default for some reason.
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cyangen mod settings under performance ,, just incase u didnt know u can enable it
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cyangen mod settings under performance ,, just incase u didnt know u can enable it
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Yeah I enabled it, I was just curious if I should have since I've seen that JIT is a little unstable.
I have surface dithering on and JIT on with 24m cache.
edit: And JIT is unstable only with certain apps and with Froyo roms it works a million times better. JIT was made for froyo and not 2.1.
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Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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I may not have understood what you were saying, but are you saying you have your setcpu to scale for performance all the time? If so that's probably why your battery life is suffering as performance forces the CPU to stay clocked at your highest speed. Yours being 806 awake and 480 asleep. Setting it to On demand will allow the CPU to clock down when its not in use.
Yes, performance means 100% of the time it is clocked as high as possible, put it on demand. Our kernels don't support anything else like "conservative."
Are the Froyo MODs using Sense? I really don't like the idea of giving it up. Everything is too boring without it (just my opinion, don't kill me for it!).
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I just put tazz 14 on and set my Max at 768... is that too much... I have read so much on what clock speeds to set but I still don't know what's best.. also... what is Eris stock clocks?
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I just put tazz 14 on and set my Max at 768... is that too much... I have read so much on what clock speeds to set but I still don't know what's best.. also... what is Eris stock clocks?
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If your phone is running ok and getting too hot then 768 should be fine, many of us run 806 without a problem. I think stock CPU is set at 528 (maybe lower, I don't remember)
BTW this should probably be in Q&A board
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I run 768 with no problems.
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If your phone is running ok and getting too hot then 768 should be fine, many of us run 806 without a problem. I think stock CPU is set at 528 (maybe lower, I don't remember)
BTW this should probably be in Q&A board
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806 are you ****ting me?... is it set to performance?
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806 are you ****ting me?... is it set to performance?
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Hmmm. I'm trying 806 now.
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806 in interactive rebooted for me.. I might have to reflash a ROM now LOL... lucky I wish I could run 806 efficiently
You should never try clock speeds without disabling "Start on boot" or you can really screw yourself over....
Anyway, 768 is a very common speed for people to be able to hit. I personally become unstable at 806 (especially with JIT on) and I stick to 787.
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You should never try clock speeds without disabling "Start on boot" or you can really screw yourself over....
Anyway, 768 is a very common speed for people to be able to hit. I personally become unstable at 806 (especially with JIT on) and I stick to 787.
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Your 486 Makes me Envious.. Would you mind PMing m your set-up ( ROM Set CPU info and current task killer? )
My 486 was a while ago and doesn't really reflect the overall performance of my phone; as in my phone is currently faster but I get lower quadrant scores (440-450)
I was on Tazz V6 I believe, clocked to 768mhz performance, with BFS V2 or V3. After rebooting and flashing the kernel I was getting high 470's and mid 480's so I took a picture with my girlfriend's Incredible.
JIT was at 16m and I'd just switched from 24 to 16 and wiped dalvik. This is significant because anytime you switch your dalvik heapsize and reboot your quadrant scores will be at their highest, not sure why, probably has to do with RAM allocation.
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My 486 was a while ago and doesn't really reflect the overall performance of my phone; as in my phone is currently faster but I get lower quadrant scores (440-450)
I was on Tazz V6 I believe, clocked to 768mhz performance, with BFS V2 or V3. After rebooting and flashing the kernel I was getting high 470's and mid 480's so I took a picture with my girlfriend's Incredible.
JIT was at 16m and I'd just switched from 24 to 16 and wiped dalvik. This is significant because anytime you switch your dalvik heapsize and reboot your quadrant scores will be at their highest, not sure why, probably has to do with RAM allocation.
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I don't get above a 415-420 really.. any suggestions or help?
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806 in interactive rebooted for me.. I might have to reflash a ROM now LOL... lucky I wish I could run 806 efficiently
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806 seems to be running a fraction faster but to me it is hardly noticeable coming from 768.
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I don't get above a 415-420 really.. any suggestions or help?
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Don't read too much in the benchmarks . I usually run happily around 430.
I use SetCPU (interactive 768 / 245)
I don't run any task killers, in my experience they are more trouble than they are worth.
The other thing IMHO if you don't use an app, get rid of it.
Task killers are in fact more trouble than they're worth, especially automatic ones. I use advanced task killer and I only ever kill tasks right after my phone has started up/ when my phone is plugged in. Task killers hurt battery life and performance.
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Task killers are in fact more trouble than they're worth, especially automatic ones. I use advanced task killer and I only ever kill tasks right after my phone has started up/ when my phone is plugged in. Task killers hurt battery life and performance.
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Thanks Guys... Ill keep that in mind.. I was using auto memory killer
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I just put tazz 14 on and set my Max at 768... is that too much... I have read so much on what clock speeds to set but I still don't know what's best.. also... what is Eris stock clocks?
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In my personal experience, I would disable set on boot in SetCPU and start gradually bumping the speed up. Usually at 787 my phone runs best (fastest and most stable). Then, I'd go back and bump it to 806. It WOULD run but after about 5 minutes of playing with my phone it typically causes it to lock. 825 Causes an immediate lock. So I typically leave it at 787 and all Froyo roms seem to run fine at that for me. I don't even test anymore...just restore SetCPU app and data with Titanium on initial boot of a new rom. So far, no problems.
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What's the best setting? Ondemand? Interactive? Prefermance..etc
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806 no problem using the Collins script.
Anything higher than 710 on my phone locks it up.
Which Rom for atrix gives more performance boost? (ive been lookingin aria, alien or CM) can suggest one of yours too. Im looking it for games..
Just from my own readings I believe that the CM7 pre-beta guys have gotten the highest quadrant scores. there is the slight thing with the camera though. I use alien myself and haven't had any problems but i'm mostly doing gensoid gaming. I haven't tried aura yet but it does look good. not sure if this helps you
Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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using CM7, the stock camera doesn't work too well, but you can get around that by using a few third party apps from the market.
the fingerprint sensor doesn't work (which really sucks, because that was a major selling point of the phone for me) but i'm just dealing with that.
i've been averaging between 3700-4000 quadrant scores, and pretty much loving everything about CM7. i wasn't too big of a fan of all that motoblur stuff, so it's pretty awesome to get rid of it all.
it's definitely ready for a daily driver, for me at least, as long as you're willing to sacrifice the fingerprint scanner, and use crappy workarounds for the camera.
But fixes are on the way right? to get around those issues? i just want to have a smooth browser scrolling =( hope CM gives that.
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Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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I like it a lot more than stock. It's fully deodexed so all of the themes that people put together can be flashed over that rom. I'm a huge fan of CM7 on my nook color but I am waiting patiently for the camera and fingerprint scanner to be fixed when they can get to it. I have a company policy for exchange mail that requires a password and it's way easier to swipe and be in than to enter a password everytime.
yeah, but im seeying all this on the perfomance side cyanogen looks awesome so ill keep the stock then jump to cyanogen when its fully compatible, and then the ultimate android Ice cream sandwich come, hopefully with hardware acceleration then it will crush all iphones Muhahaha
I'm using Aura 1.1.3 Debloat #7 and it seems to be very fast. I use SetCPU and have it underclock the processor to 216 MHz when the screen is off. On the other roms, the phone would hiccup for a while before coming to full speed when I turned the screen on. On this Aura rom, I can barely notice a slowdown in the first half second and it goes straight to full power then. I believe it's because this rom is only 150 MB, as opposed to others like CherryBlur, which is 560 MB.
Every ROM has it's points.... I look at the list of whats included: My biggest thing is tethering but I was able to do it on every ROM so it really depends on what you're going to add to it. If you have a ton of apps, something that is debloated/deblurred is probably best but not important. Quadrant scores don't seem like they are entirely trustworthy enough to make one a winner over the other. CM7 isn't gingerbread so I wouldn't include that one right now in the mix. They all are stable though. I like Aura/Darkside and Alien. Ninja is still a favorite of mine as well. I don't use the camera much so D3 or stoc doesn't make a difference to me but you might have a preference. I'm not a Star Wars fan but I tride that one and it was smooth....I liked the Darth Vader breathing when the SD cards mounted LOL. I use ADW for a launcher beause it gives me the choice of several themes and 5 icons on the dock.
does underclocking make video run slower? i'm on the htc inspire with Absolution v3.7. i undervolted it aggressively to -75. i also underclocked it to 384. but i dont think underclocking is the cause since i had underclocked this phone with virtuous unity to 384 and videos played well. anyway, i noticed with netflix, video runs slow every 4 minutes then normal again. please let me know if undervolting makes phone/video run slower. thanks.
Undervolting can lower stability. If you end up with such performance issues, raise voltages. Ending up with a reboot will consume far more power than UVing will save anyway.
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Undervolting can lower stability. If you end up with such performance issues, raise voltages. Ending up with a reboot will consume far more power than UVing will save anyway.
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hey harbb.. i went ahead and removed the undervolting and i also overclocked to close to 500.. videos come out a bit smoother but theyre not smooth and theres still some jerkiness.. im uninstalling this Absolution rom.. it sucks. im gonna try miui or go back to a sense rom. im very disappointed with Absolution.
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hey harbb.. i went ahead and removed the undervolting and i also overclocked to close to 500.. videos come out a bit smoother but theyre not smooth and theres still some jerkiness.. im uninstalling this Absolution rom.. it sucks. im gonna try miui or go back to a sense rom. im very disappointed with Absolution.
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What do you expect when you try to run a device at have the processing power. It is not a from issues. It is your settings. Yes under locking a from like that will make it do a lot of things slower.
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What do you expect when you try to run a device at have the processing power. It is not a from issues. It is your settings. Yes under locking a from like that will make it do a lot of things slower.
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you obviously havent read my thread in its entirety. i'll restate to you again that i underclocked a sense rom before. the video was smooth as silk. but on the absolution rom, i overclocked it above the underclocked speed on the sense rom and the video was HORRENDOUS. i couldnt see netflix without jerks.. same thing occured when playing video off the sd card. so, IT IS from issues of the rom, and NOT from my settings. and this proves it.
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you obviously havent read my thread in its entirety. i'll restate to you again that i underclocked a sense rom before. the video was smooth as silk. but on the absolution rom, i overclocked it above the underclocked speed on the sense rom and the video was HORRENDOUS. i couldnt see netflix without jerks.. same thing occured when playing video off the sd card. so, IT IS from issues of the rom, and NOT from my settings. and this proves it.
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Well then time to dig deeper and troubleshoot the issue. I know that VU has built in OC scripts. that run at boot. AOSP and Sense roms also use different drivers, this could be part of the issue.
What does the log cat say when you compared them?
i assume log cat is a log of activity on the phone. but how can i access it?
My ATT Note is not as smooth as my ATT S2. Got a bit lagging. I would like to overclock it. The concern i have is only battery life (it's already not that great).
Can someone put down some thoughts pros and cons with overclocking? Do you see the Note run smoother and battery life is the same?
Thanks guys
What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
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What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Exactly right. I use setcpu to underclock to 700mhz when I'm on a call, and when the screen is off. I regularly have 30-40% battery left after 18hrs of use....
I downloaded ADW ICS theme and my home screen, print app drawer is silky smooth. Way better than the stock GB.
But I assume you mean overall performance.
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ADW is my personal favorite. Everything runs great on it with no stutters. Someone also stated that GO launcher is really smooth and fluid with the new update put out.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Yes but a different version.
Alright so: found the fastest sensless ROM was slimrom. With quadrant I scored about 4k on funky kernel. Mostly all sense based ROM scored around that that's with funky. Now that I installed rage ROM aosp I'm getting laggier performance in games and about a 2- 3k quadrant benchmark score. Same with antutu benchmark. Lower scores then on sense. This dosnt make sense. I thought aosp ROMs (cm9) were so pose to be godly and around faster then she sense based. But lower benchmark and lower fps and lag in games this sucks. Still running funky. I noticed that system tuner was acting up and making it do all weird things so I cleared data and uninstalled rebooted and still got same scores. Force GPU was checked in all ROMs and kernel versions. And all benchmarks were dine with ball the same CPU setting. Maybe an app is acting up and robing performance? I'm not get any abnormal heat or batter drain.
Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Did you check the built in cpu manager within the settings? If you have an app to govern it, they will battle over control causing lag.
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Yes and I only use the built in one to control. I was reading that this is a common problem with cm9 and going from android v 4.0.4 to 4.0.3 might fix it. As in different cm9 ROM.
Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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Told you this before and hate to sound like a broken record. Don't use System Tuner with my kernel, use Android Tuner or CPU Tweaker (these replaced System Tuner for a reason) on Sense roms.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
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NEVER NEVER NEVER turn force GPU rendering on (breaks MANY apps), thats the BIGGEST mistake MANY people do on these forums along with those so-called universal "build.prop" tweaks which do absolutely nothing. Try using the stock kernel first to see if its kernel related.
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I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
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I've tested both games mc3 and nova 3 and both run better with it enabled. I've also tried multiple versions of kernel. Found 1.4 gives good performance and battery I've read tho that it is is a cm9 problem and that its "known"??r idk how true that is tho. Its mainly just games that I'm lagging on.
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I do not have GPU rendering enabled, on stock kernel and my games run smooth.
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I don't touch any CPU settings with ST. None. Its pretty much installed for freezing apps task manager to see what's running and the widget. That's it. All CPU settings are dine through CM in the performance section.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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You should probably uninstall ST reboot and see if that fixes your issues.
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Tried. Nothing.
Any ;new when Neo is gonna push out his CM10 build? I think aims just wait for that see if that dolv s the problem if not them back to slimrom.
It won't be released until the CM10 devs give the go ahead. But I don't think you'll like it any more than what you've been running.
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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whens that gonna be?
cm10 is based off of JB though and from what i read, jb is crqzy smooth because vsync was disabled? idk but i read that its insanely smooth
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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Triple buffering. You're thinking about triple buffering. We'll only get all those benefits with a full implementation of Project Butter, which is not automatic with jellybean. Right now, what we have is very uneven. Some things are smooth, some things are choppier. Getting a full ION implementation should smooth things out, but it still won't be Project Butter.
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ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
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ohhh i see.... but like is that lag and fps drop just a problem with cm9, or is it just my phone?
what auntutu benchmark and quadrant scores do you get?
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8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
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8860 - Antutu
3030 - Quadrant
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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what was your fps on both tests?
my antutu score was 8094 cpu and everything set to max speed.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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Which part on each test? I'll have to do it again to check.. the test results don't tell me that info.
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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in the knights test it tells you on bottom.... in sense roms i got about 59 in cm9 i get about 45-50. in both tests. somehting has to be wrong your getting a score of 800 better then me and running close to the same kernel and rom ish....
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56.74 FPS