My ATT Note is not as smooth as my ATT S2. Got a bit lagging. I would like to overclock it. The concern i have is only battery life (it's already not that great).
Can someone put down some thoughts pros and cons with overclocking? Do you see the Note run smoother and battery life is the same?
Thanks guys
What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
shansmi said:
What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Exactly right. I use setcpu to underclock to 700mhz when I'm on a call, and when the screen is off. I regularly have 30-40% battery left after 18hrs of use....
I downloaded ADW ICS theme and my home screen, print app drawer is silky smooth. Way better than the stock GB.
But I assume you mean overall performance.
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ADW is my personal favorite. Everything runs great on it with no stutters. Someone also stated that GO launcher is really smooth and fluid with the new update put out.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Yes but a different version.
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Any opinions? I'm on KaosFroyo right now and it is amazing but what do you guys think?
Clearly this is all opinion:
CM6. Fastest I've used (noticeably when I play games) and it's really not missing any features... I think facebook sync is working now, gps, everything really except for the camera.
It's weird I think all the camera apps don't work in Froyo. What about the overclock? All the 2.2 roms are at 710 by default right? Even if you dont have setcpu installed?
At the moment they seem to all use a kernel with 710mhz default. The camera is related to the kernel and once the froyo kernel is out we'll have camera.
Try celebfroyo 1.4
My personnel experience has been, KaosFroyo was awesome, but I had some MINOR issues such as launcher pros 3d app drawer lagging real bad, and game performance being somewhat awful. Am now on Cyanogen6 test build. 0 issues. Other than stock camera. Camera magic fixed that for me.
Whitepaint, I had the same issues with games... Zenonia was literally impossible to play lol maybe 10 FPS tops, with CM6 I'm seeing serious improvements.
thanks guys ill go try Cm6
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Try celebfroyo 1.4
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i have tried that Rom and i didnt like it. it was way too slow and laggy for me
CelebFroyo 1.4 i have it over clocked to 806mhz and stable. Linpack 5.5 and quadrent 420. Been really stable aswell. NIKOLAI2.1 Froyo's kernal is 710mhz and yes you can use SetCPU. Mines only stable up to 806
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All of them are excellent works of art ;-)
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CelebFroyo 1.4 i have it over clocked to 806mhz and stable. Linpack 5.5 and quadrent 420. Been really stable aswell. NIKOLAI2.1 Froyo's kernal is 710mhz and yes you can use SetCPU. Mines only stable up to 806
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Haha yeah but my phone will freeze after 768
But hey I'm using CM6 and it's amazing!
itarille said:
All of them are excellent works of art ;-)
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And yes they are!
Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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Just curing do you use surface dithering and/or JIT? CM6 had Jit disabled my default for some reason.
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Just curing do you use surface dithering and/or JIT? CM6 had Jit disabled my default for some reason.
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cyangen mod settings under performance ,, just incase u didnt know u can enable it
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cyangen mod settings under performance ,, just incase u didnt know u can enable it
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Yeah I enabled it, I was just curious if I should have since I've seen that JIT is a little unstable.
I have surface dithering on and JIT on with 24m cache.
edit: And JIT is unstable only with certain apps and with Froyo roms it works a million times better. JIT was made for froyo and not 2.1.
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Tried them all so far, like them all, but definitely have had the most luck with CELB 1.4. Was rocking Kaos for a bit and was pretty quick, but noticed it was slowing down a bit. Battery life was pretty good. Once I got CELB going though, I was just amazed at how quick everything is. Apps open well, smooth scrolling, and most surprising to me is that there is almost no lag when waking the phone while the profile is set 480/245 and when screen is awake it's 806/480 - both performance. Loving it so far, even though battery life doesn't seem quite as good. Small price to pay for the speed though in my opinion.
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I may not have understood what you were saying, but are you saying you have your setcpu to scale for performance all the time? If so that's probably why your battery life is suffering as performance forces the CPU to stay clocked at your highest speed. Yours being 806 awake and 480 asleep. Setting it to On demand will allow the CPU to clock down when its not in use.
Yes, performance means 100% of the time it is clocked as high as possible, put it on demand. Our kernels don't support anything else like "conservative."
Are the Froyo MODs using Sense? I really don't like the idea of giving it up. Everything is too boring without it (just my opinion, don't kill me for it!).
Does anybody have any experience with under clocking the beefy Galaxy S II, mainly to preserve battery life? How big of a difference is there when under clocking, and, is it really worth it?
I had used 7 hours of standby and 1 hour of display. The brightness was about 50%, with the CPU at a 200/500mhz. I had a little over 75% of battery life at this time. There was absolutely no lag as far as I could tell - just a .5 second delay sometimes. The internet worked fine - and even Modern Combat 2 HD ran silky smooth.
Thanks for the help. Any suggestions, comments, and tips are welcome. I'm really just new to Android and are loving it - so much freedom!
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Does anybody have any experience with under clocking the beefy Galaxy S II, mainly to preserve battery life? How big of a difference is there when under clocking, and, is it really worth it?
I had used 7 hours of standby and 1 hour of display. The brightness was about 50%, with the CPU at a 200/500mhz. I had a little over 75% of battery life at this time. There was absolutely no lag as far as I could tell - just a .5 second delay sometimes. The internet worked fine - and even Modern Combat 2 HD ran silky smooth.
Thanks for the help. Any suggestions, comments, and tips are welcome. I'm really just new to Android and are loving it - so much freedom!
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WHen I first had my GS2, the first thing I was concerned about was battery life. I did try underclocking but i couldn't stand the lag between screen transitions that it gave me.
For me the best solution for battery was to update to a KI3 based ROM, which gave me the best battery life I've had. But that's just me, if you are able to stand the side effects of underclocking, it will surely boost your batery life.
Update to KI3 or KI8
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Update rom, and change kernel. KI3 cf root gives good battery life. Among with others based on older sources such as ninpo, SpeedMod, or new. Siyah kernel.
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Under volting is more complicated than it sounds, there is a good explanation somewhere in this forum I would post the link but I can't find it. In my experience a good combination of rom, kernel and modem is the easiest way to get decent battery life.
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Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
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Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
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hey people and good day!
im new to s3 just bought it today and im still having the galaxy note in my hand
but itv very big for me
and i feel the changing with smoothness the s3 is incredible smooth
so my question is,should i root it and put custom rom?
because in my notre i change almost every 3 days the rom because the note little bit lag
but here with s3 its looks goddes with everything
so should i do it it will be better with the custom roms or it will make it more lag then the stock??????
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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It really depends on the rom and kernel you are using. At the moment I am on Omega 4.2 (going to update to 5.0 now) and SiyahKernel 1.0 over clocked at 1.6GHz. I find the S3 very smooth, more compared to stock. The stock rom is pretty smooth but if you feel that there is a lag you could always install a custom rom and kernel. With the SiyahKernel you can overclock upto 1.8GHz.
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What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
Stock is smooth as poop, ask yourself if you're happy with smoothness and speed.. Why risk to get weird bugs like camera fc all of the sudden etc?
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Agree you need to read what the custom rom is offering in real terms not hype and decide . bear in mind that every custom rom built claims to be faster smoother saves your battery and will fly you to your destination in first class .Few say hey this rom is slower than stock as i have messed with stuff and cut and pasted a few themes .
jje
PS saying that i am in the process of flashing a stock rom purely to test out my recovery procedures for getting back to a clean stock rom .
I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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I have a question about installing a custom ROM, will it wipe your device after installing the custrom ROM? (I want to install the latest firmware AF2) TIA
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Nope.
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What is even the point of overclocking this phone with the software available now? There is really no need. I've actually used SetCPU to downclock my CPU when battery gets below 40% to save battery, and even more at 20%.. and it still runs fine.You're just wasting battery and shortening the life of your phone.
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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By doing underclock is battery save notic able? Will it harm cpu as it always underclock and then again back to normal?
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Nope, underclocking won't harm it, having a massive overclock for most of the phone's life will probably shorten it's lifespan though.
Anyone know if ROM Toolbox Pro will work for underclocking the Z3v? Also what settings would one recommend that would help increase battery life, decrease heat, without compromising performance too much? Thanks in advance.
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Anyone know if ROM Toolbox Pro will work for underclocking the Z3v? Also what settings would one recommend that would help increase battery life, decrease heat, without compromising performance too much? Thanks in advance.
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I posted the exact same thing on my thread about battery saving tips with root. I use Trickster ROM though.
Use to use SetCPU and had good luck with it don't know if it is still maintained, of course used it to overclock not underclock but it can do that too.
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Use to use SetCPU and had good luck with it don't know if it is still maintained, of course used it to overclock not underclock but it can do that too.
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Oh the days of overclocking! Processors are fast enough these days. No sense heating up the phone, killing the battery, & no need for the extra speed like in the days of the OG Droid. No need to slow it down though either, but I guess it would be nice to have extra battery life & a colder phone.
Haven't used SetCPU in a long time. I know it didn't work with my Droid2 & I had to switch to a different app. Always wanted to play with the one in ROM Toolbox guess it is time to start. Hell I paid for the app let's do it right?
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Oh the days of overclocking! Processors are fast enough these days. No sense heating up the phone, killing the battery, & no need for the extra speed like in the days of the OG Droid. No need to slow it down though either, but I guess it would be nice to have extra battery life & a colder phone.
Haven't used SetCPU in a long time. I know it didn't work with my Droid2 & I had to switch to a different app. Always wanted to play with the one in ROM Toolbox guess it is time to start. Hell I paid for the app let's do it right?
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want a colder phone? throw the sony into an ice bucket since its waterproof lol