Does anybody have any experience with under clocking the beefy Galaxy S II, mainly to preserve battery life? How big of a difference is there when under clocking, and, is it really worth it?
I had used 7 hours of standby and 1 hour of display. The brightness was about 50%, with the CPU at a 200/500mhz. I had a little over 75% of battery life at this time. There was absolutely no lag as far as I could tell - just a .5 second delay sometimes. The internet worked fine - and even Modern Combat 2 HD ran silky smooth.
Thanks for the help. Any suggestions, comments, and tips are welcome. I'm really just new to Android and are loving it - so much freedom!
Colton127 said:
Does anybody have any experience with under clocking the beefy Galaxy S II, mainly to preserve battery life? How big of a difference is there when under clocking, and, is it really worth it?
I had used 7 hours of standby and 1 hour of display. The brightness was about 50%, with the CPU at a 200/500mhz. I had a little over 75% of battery life at this time. There was absolutely no lag as far as I could tell - just a .5 second delay sometimes. The internet worked fine - and even Modern Combat 2 HD ran silky smooth.
Thanks for the help. Any suggestions, comments, and tips are welcome. I'm really just new to Android and are loving it - so much freedom!
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WHen I first had my GS2, the first thing I was concerned about was battery life. I did try underclocking but i couldn't stand the lag between screen transitions that it gave me.
For me the best solution for battery was to update to a KI3 based ROM, which gave me the best battery life I've had. But that's just me, if you are able to stand the side effects of underclocking, it will surely boost your batery life.
Update to KI3 or KI8
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Update rom, and change kernel. KI3 cf root gives good battery life. Among with others based on older sources such as ninpo, SpeedMod, or new. Siyah kernel.
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Under volting is more complicated than it sounds, there is a good explanation somewhere in this forum I would post the link but I can't find it. In my experience a good combination of rom, kernel and modem is the easiest way to get decent battery life.
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Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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Hey guys,
Since so much information is thrown around every day about battery life and dual core smartphones, I have a simple question that needs answering (probably a simple answer but I want actual clarification). Will dual core smartphone users see improved battery life performance in ICS? I thought this would be implemented in GB, but I still notice my battery tends to drain at a quick pace on medium use (I don't get the idle drain others do).
Thanks for the responses!
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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I don't see what a new version of OS would have to do with battery life.
What depends on the OS, is downclocking the CPU and GPU depending on hardware lock, and this is done already in Gingerbread.
At the moment you can get additional battery life using freezing bloat, using custom kernel with battery saving profiles and disabling data when you aren't using it.
I am having great battery life on my Atrix (2 days of solid use).
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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What do you mean by SOLID use? How long was your screen on? Are you on 4g? What apps do you run.. two days of minimal use I am assuming...
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Nope, not minimal use.
Wifi on most of the time. Screen on for 4 hours. Music player on for 5 hours. Occasional GPS usage.
Which one tends to be better? Usually for HTC phones I find the aosp roms to trump the sense roms, but on my old Samsung Vibrant the aosp roms ALL had horrendous battery life!
Please lemme know your personal findings!
Thanks
BTW All posts will be thanked
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I tried kj3 and cm7 #116 with siyah kernel on both and battery was the identical, cm7 felt smoother though. But some guys are able to squeeze 2 days of battery use while i can only do 1 day, so it also depends what apps you have running and how much you use the phone.
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I tried kj3 and cm7 #116 with siyah kernel on both and battery was the identical, cm7 felt smoother though. But some guys are able to squeeze 2 days of battery use while i can only do 1 day, so it also depends what apps you have running and how much you use the phone.
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The same battery life? Interesting. In that case I'll probably choose Samsung roms for all the extra features and codec compatibilities.
Please! More opinions and thoughts!
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Yup identical, i remember seeing people posting these great 2day battery life shots and they were all on samsung roms so i decided to give it a try. After i loaded the samsung rom and all of my apps/widgets from my cm7 rom the battery life was identical at the end of the day. I do miss that codec compatibility but mx video player takes care of that with ease.
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Yup identical, i remember seeing people posting these great 2day battery life shots and they were all on samsung roms so i decided to give it a try. After i loaded the samsung rom and all of my apps/widgets from my cm7 rom the battery life was identical at the end of the day. I do miss that codec compatibility but mx video player takes care of that with ease.
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Thanks man! All other opinions are appreciated too!
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As long as my display has consumed 70-75% at the end of my day (when my battery went from 100% to 20%) I don't bother looking at ways to eliminate the "drain" that some users have. Most, if not all, of the drain is installed on the outside of the screen.
Sure, when I put it in airplane modus inside a vault it lasts more than 5 days. Yay I must be a super tweaker.
i get about 17 hours with about 5.30 hours of display on samsung based ROM but then again it all depends on what you use your cell for
Thanks for all the input keep em coming!
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Any screen on times for aosp? Thx!
Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
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Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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kimitza said:
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
Hi there
i have my galaxy for a few wekks now and i find battery on CM9 RC2 pretty bad (underclocked and undervolted)
which rom is recommended for good battery life (and works with siyah kernel)
GPS/WIFI/MOBILE DATA/CAMERA must be working !!
thanks for your suggestions
I was using xwlpo stock, only rooted. Undervolted -25 and set cpu to 800 mhz. The governor was ondemand. The formula of amazing battery life. Now i use jelly bean which wastes battery.
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No two people will ever have the exact same setup, and even if they miraculously did, the likelihood of their two phones coming out of the factory exactly the same is infinitesimal.
So a ROM that someone else experiences good battery life with, may be terrible for you or me.
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Hi there
i have my galaxy for a few wekks now and i find battery on CM9 RC2 pretty bad (underclocked and undervolted)
which rom is recommended for good battery life (and works with siyah kernel)
GPS/WIFI/MOBILE DATA/CAMERA must be working !!
thanks for your suggestions
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Try rootbox with dm kernel. It has pretty good battery, but like previously said every user is different and therefore will have different battery life. It would not surpise me if this gets closed very quickly.
I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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I ran his roms when I had my gs3. Tbey were the best. Fast and everything worked. I havent tried any roms fpr tgis one yet but when I do it will be his rom first.
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I love it as well. Best performance out of any ROM. But I also am in love with AOSP and 4.2 is amazing. So torn!!!
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I cant do the stock look, it doesnt agree with me!
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Man, ur playing with fire here. But I would have to agree, it is a pretty nice rom if you prefer the stock look.
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Yeah... I'm just letting people know tjere was a stock-ish rom with un believabke battery performance. I can't even remember where my extra battery is....I havent used it since I started using Clean.
Other roms are great...clean is...just amazing
I gotta give this a try
A couple of things...
Is everything working?
And of course the famous "is wifi tether working"?
And - how stock is stock? Do you get the horrible message in your pull down, "There are wifi networks available?", "Your wifi is off" blah blah blah. Man! That was irritating!
Thanks for any information.
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I disagree. I wasn't impressed with that ROM.
But its your opinion. Glad u like it.
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I just wanted to come over to the General forum and let you all know that Scotty's Clean 4.5 is probably the most amazing ROM I have ever seen on any device.
out of the box Antutu is 17500....I'm running 10.5 hours with 2 hrs screen time and I have 71% battery left.
seriously folks....it's all day zoom zoom and it looks and feels totally stock.
If you haven't tried it....for the love of Pete..."DO-IT MAUN!"
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Im at 1d, 10 hours and almost 1.5 hours screen time, I have 56% left....
Oh and stock.
Sorry but no zip rom dev will ever improve battery life without coding their own battery saving applications.
I am sure the rom is great, but don't credit battery life to it
Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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Short of going to AOSP, you cannot significantly change battery life on any ROM compared to what it is based off of. So, if you make a ROM based on Stock TouchWiz, it is going to get approximately the same usage as the Stock ROM. If you have doubts, go do a comparison test. Even undervolting isn't going to do anything significant for you with modern day processors.
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
adrynalyne said:
...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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It has always been my belief that you use roms for features, not performance or battery claims.
I use Jelly Beans ROM 8 and the performance and battery life is 100 times difference. The battery with heavy usage was at 56% from 7am until 5pm. My Galaxy Note 2's performance without overclocking has been extremely fast in comparison to stock, I can now watch videos with any browser without the hour glass circle hanging for an extended period of time.
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bond32 said:
I knew I wasn't crazy... I've tried all roms under the sun. To me I've not noticed any performance difference. Of course I'm sure I don't use my note 2 as much as most people...
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
Basically I am reiterating what adrynalyne and imnuts said here
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...and debloating doesn't save you battery life.
My phone is still unrooted and stocked from when I got it replaced last week.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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AOSP based ROM's can get you better performance and improve battery life (though I very rarely if have ever actually see the later).. At this time there are still issues with AOSP here and there.. most notably the gpu has either glitches or a memory leak (one or the other) and bluetooth is sketchy.
Zip ROM's or Stock ROMS will not change either performance or battery life by any real significance.
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Your Liberty rom on my old Droid X improved performance and battery life significantly, and my co-worker mentions often how her friends and family with better, newer phones are surprised that her phone runs better.
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I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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I don't notice as much now, but with older devices bloat had a huge impact on performance and battery life. On some of my phones blockbuster was one of the biggest battery hogs and I've never once opened that app. On my Droid X with 512mb ram it would start to lag at 90mb free, it was really bad once it got down to 70mb free, and would freeze at 50mb free. Before I first rooted I had to use a app killer before I used my phone so it wouldn't lag, and if I used it more than 20 minutes or so I had to run it again to stop the lag. Once I rooted I started using an app to set the memory to always keep 90 mb or more free and didn't have lag anymore, but the apps I was using would constantly redraw but bloat apps I never used would be eating up all my ram, I debloated it and have been fine ever since.
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1ManWolfePack said:
I disagree. Lol. I'm not a dev and don't know how to code (sure I'll get flamed) but here's how I see it:
"Debloating" does save my battery a bit. Some crap programs running in the background (at all times) that I never use, showing up in my battery stats and my running apps using xyz of my ram, apps that I *never* use (I mean NEVER opened) -- you don't think killing those (in effect - killing process) has any positive effect on ones battery life?
I think it does. I've tested it. One example: anything exchange related on this phone and the Note 2. Also: smart alarm clock. That damn widget never sleeps and I've never used it. My phone sleeps better without it and I do believe overall (with the other rogue apps I kill) my battery is better.
I'm ready to be proven wrong.
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Those *things* you never used are backgrounded and harmless, despite perceptions.
I have never seen a battery use screen shot chock full of apps never used draining the battery. ...
Except Maps. That one is annoying.
I am fully stock still and almost 2d usage with 34 percent left.
This is with Scott's clean Rom 1.0. Maybe stock gives you the same battery performance. But this Rom is as smooth as butter.
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