Anyone know if ROM Toolbox Pro will work for underclocking the Z3v? Also what settings would one recommend that would help increase battery life, decrease heat, without compromising performance too much? Thanks in advance.
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Anyone know if ROM Toolbox Pro will work for underclocking the Z3v? Also what settings would one recommend that would help increase battery life, decrease heat, without compromising performance too much? Thanks in advance.
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I posted the exact same thing on my thread about battery saving tips with root. I use Trickster ROM though.
Use to use SetCPU and had good luck with it don't know if it is still maintained, of course used it to overclock not underclock but it can do that too.
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Use to use SetCPU and had good luck with it don't know if it is still maintained, of course used it to overclock not underclock but it can do that too.
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Oh the days of overclocking! Processors are fast enough these days. No sense heating up the phone, killing the battery, & no need for the extra speed like in the days of the OG Droid. No need to slow it down though either, but I guess it would be nice to have extra battery life & a colder phone.
Haven't used SetCPU in a long time. I know it didn't work with my Droid2 & I had to switch to a different app. Always wanted to play with the one in ROM Toolbox guess it is time to start. Hell I paid for the app let's do it right?
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Oh the days of overclocking! Processors are fast enough these days. No sense heating up the phone, killing the battery, & no need for the extra speed like in the days of the OG Droid. No need to slow it down though either, but I guess it would be nice to have extra battery life & a colder phone.
Haven't used SetCPU in a long time. I know it didn't work with my Droid2 & I had to switch to a different app. Always wanted to play with the one in ROM Toolbox guess it is time to start. Hell I paid for the app let's do it right?
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want a colder phone? throw the sony into an ice bucket since its waterproof lol
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hey all.
im off to glasto soon and was gonna load up the hero with a nice long battery life rom - anyone know a good one?
also, is there somewhere with a general list of stuff to make it last longer - i guess a 1 press widget to stop all data would be ideal? anything else? an auto task killer maybe?
i will be able to charge it occasionally at a mates caravan but i'd like to do that as little as pos.
thanks for reading
I'm still using 42turkey's rooted repack of the Taiwan official GSM Hero 2.1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694786
Everything works on it, and since it has Sense UI, there is a widget for Mobile data on/off.
Battery life seems great on this rom as well.
The ONLY thing that does not work well is the handwriting input method, as it is Chinese (the rest of the phone can be set to 100% all english though).
Lucky bugger!!!...
If I was you i'd flash MCR3.2. The most stable 1.5 ROM. Then underclock the standby.
I've heard people recommend Juice Defender but haven't tried it myself.
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hey all.
im off to glasto soon and was gonna load up the hero with a nice long battery life rom - anyone know a good one?
also, is there somewhere with a general list of stuff to make it last longer - i guess a 1 press widget to stop all data would be ideal? anything else? an auto task killer maybe?
i will be able to charge it occasionally at a mates caravan but i'd like to do that as little as pos.
thanks for reading
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I would reccomend Cronos Droid 1.7.1 and then set the clock speed to standard 528Mhz (518Mhz) set the low freq at 246Mhz I think it is and the mess a little around in SetCPU like setting the sleep freq at max 480MHz and underclocking it when the battery runs low Last of all Cronos Droid is the best ROM performance wise, stable wise (if you can say that) and in my expiriences also battery wise and It's just the best if you aren't trying to find a ROM you can theme etc.
just buy those cheap portable batt chargers that use a single AA batt and u'll never run out of power as long as u can buy AA batts. It won't charge your phone very much but it will certainly keep the phone at a constant level.
awesome cheers all - im having a look at the ones detailed, will definatelylook into the overclocking thing.
and the aa battery thing....i think i've got one of them already for my mp3 player! never made the link that the phone could use it too. super!
cheers again, off to pack
There's a ninpo kernel on Villain10.3, which has some optional battery optimisations. I can't really gauge it against other ROMs as I haven't tested it like that, but adding autokiller and keeping the phone underclocked to the stock speed via SetCPU. I also run mine at 19MHz in sleep mode, but be aware not all heros are compatible with this, and yours might not wake up properly at 19MHz. Try it and see
So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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Don't bother using benchmarks to rate a phones performance that is a fatal error there. Benchmarks never effectively rate a phones performance. I just go by how smooth the phone runs and it does it run everything I throw at it. If so gg pz end of story.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Well whatever works for you. Just saying Quadrant is a poor tool to use to bench for many reasons which I won't go over. Antutu is nice for SD speed testing I think, oter than that meh. Benches are just for numbers for people to flex their epeens with. They just really don't truly gauge a devices performance.
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Benchmarks do have a some good uses... while comparing different phone models with benchmarks can be iffy, it can give an overall insight, (things like graphics capabilities with very GPU extensive games) but in the end user experience and daily use are the real judges.
Where benchmarks can be of the most use, is when comparing changes to the same phone model.
E.G. Comparing performance impacts of AOSP vs Sense, overclocking and under-clocking, and de-sensing/bloat removal.
When used for these reasons, you can get a really good feel for how changes are affecting your device overall. Even then, benchmarks are not the be all end all, and user experience is still important. As you may introduce lag or other performance issues that do not show up in benchmarks.
Which temp root method are you using? Mine isn't staying rooted long enough for me to justify using setCPU at all...
The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
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The new version and the one that comes with the newest clean tool stays until reboot.
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Thx for the info, guess I must still be using the outdated method. I'll run the latest version of Scott's Clean tool and give it a shot.
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So I installed SetCPU today. Been testing the kernels ability to work underclocked at the max of 918mhz. Also set the scaling to conservative. After a days use it's been as good as normal full speed, 1512mhz
The battery lasted throughout the day, compared to my first two days of stock settings with only 6 hours of good use.
I'll keep playing. Still want to do some testing and benchmarks to make sure it's not under performing. But at least at the user level it seems to react the same.no lag.
I did confirm the clock speed out side of SetCPU using system panel.
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Please let us know what settings you use that work for you.
I generally stay temprooted unless I'm going to be away from a charger for a bit and need BT (since you can't turn BT back on after temproot). I wouldn't have SetCPU autostart on boot (since it won't ever be able to get root access immediately after boot).
Meanwhile, I also set it to conservative and will see what that accomplishes.
A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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This kernel apparently does work with SetCPU. I've confirmed using other cpu monitoring apps that the clock speed changes are capped.
I own 7 android phones, and have been rooting, overclocking, undervolting each and every single one of them (well one I still cant get rooted). I know when the cpu is under clocked and when it is not. Been doing these tweaks for 4 years now. If you use a tool like System Panel, at stock settings you can see the max cpu around 1500 on our little bad boy. When it peaks out the clock speed is shown. When you under clock it, then check again it won't go beyond the max cpu set in my testing I put a ceiling at 918mhz. System Panel reported full CPU usage (100%) at clock speed 918mhz. Typically with stock kernels, your absolutely right, changes to SetCPU do nothing at all to the real cpu. Which is confirmed, when I reboot and dont have root, if I attempt to use SetCPU and make the changes, System Panel reports 1500mhz (roughly) at full load regardless of what I set it to in SetCPU. If I did this to any of my other phones with stock kernels, you are correct it makes no difference as SystemPanel reports the stock max setting.
No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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A kernel needs to support setcpu, stock kernels do not. You need to flash a custom kernel, so you need a development phone or s-off.
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No I'm not being mean or aggressive, just saying. =-) And no don't believe me, but test it yourself and confirm or prove me wrong some other way and I admit error. Either way, half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should not do.
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Or I would say, "half the fun is messing with the phone and trying to get it to do things it should have always been allowed to do...." Just sayin'.
Are you using the profiles at all? Im interested to know what seems to be working out the best for you.
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True, but people still like to get the general idea. There are many factors.hence why I said the over all feel seems the same. Im going to use antutu, and quadrant. 5 times each to get a range.=-)
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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In my view, the "benchmarks" would be an OK measurement if you were comparing apples to apples.
I tried running both Linpack and Quadrant on the very recently and dearly departed Incredible right after a fresh reboot and having charged the battery overnight...when the thing should have been at it's freshest.
I got wildly different scores each time I ran it after a reboot...knowing that on both programs the scores would improve the more times you ran the test.
It didn't seem to me that either program was a reliable indicator of what my phone was capable of. I didn't even trust them to tell me whether something I'd done...cleared cache or deleted bloatware...had any real effect.
It simply boils down to how the phone feels. That's not scientific, but it works for me.
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Linpack and Quadrant are not reliable benchmarks. TBH I don't take any of the benchmarks seriously, they are more for entertainment for me. But to each their own right?
Yeah some of the benchmark apps are a bit unreliable to say the least...
If I use one, I try to use ones that Anandtech uses. I trust them to find the better benchmark tools.
So i have cm7 installed on my NT and the performance is just fine. But i heard that overclocking can increase performance and battery life. I dont really care all that much about performance but battery life is really essesntial to me and i wanna max it out. So as an OC'ing newb i would like to hear from you guys what the easiest way to OC is and what a safe OCing speed is once i know how. Id like a speed thats very stable yet still yields up the benefits. Thanks for all the help you guys
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Well first of all, we would need the proper kernels in the system folders for it work in the first place (which isn't). From what I have read in the Android Dev thread, they are working on it and the would post instructions and details when the time comes.
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Well first of all, we would need the proper kernels in the system folders for it work in the first place (which isn't). From what I have read in the Android Dev thread, they are working on it and the would post instructions and details when the time comes.
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Thanks, I'll look forward to that
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So i have cm7 installed on my NT and the performance is just fine. But i heard that overclocking can increase performance and battery life. I dont really care all that much about performance but battery life is really essesntial to me and i wanna max it out. So as an OC'ing newb i would like to hear from you guys what the easiest way to OC is and what a safe OCing speed is once i know how. Id like a speed thats very stable yet still yields up the benefits. Thanks for all the help you guys
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OCing will not increase battery life. In fact, it'll do the opposite, decrease your battery life. I haven't read this anywhere, but that just has to be the case. It's like saying the driving 100 miles uses less gas then driving 30 miles.
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OCing will not increase battery life. In fact, it'll do the opposite, decrease your battery life. I haven't read this anywhere, but that just has to be the case. It's like saying the driving 100 miles uses less gas then driving 30 miles.
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I think that the OP is refering more to Underclocking to get more out of his battery life. I cannot comment when the dev team will release this yet.
yea overclocking with an on demand profile should yield better battery life although the kernels probably already has built in settings for screen off and such?
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yea overclocking with an on demand profile should yield better battery life although the kernels probably already has built in settings for screen off and such?
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Yah but you can never have long enough battery life!
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I too am looking forward to when we can play with OCing this wonderful hardware. I sure the devs will get to it eventually. First we must get a 3.x kernel developed and then ICS/CM9. Once this happens I'm sure there will be plenty of tweaks/scripts to play with not to derail but is it possible(and safe) to play around with build.prop and init.d? I am currently running CM7 Alpha12.
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I too am looking forward to when we can play with OCing this wonderful hardware. I sure the devs will get to it eventually. First we must get a 3.x kernel developed and then ICS/CM9. Once this happens I'm sure there will be plenty of tweaks/scripts to play with not to derail but is it possible(and safe) to play around with build.prop and init.d? I am currently running CM7 Alpha12.
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Yes, It´s time to start OC in NT, for Kindle Fire there are a lot of OC kernels, Not the same for the NT.
Team-B does indeed have an OC in progress. It is in testing now. So far it seems to run very stable at 1188 Mhz (that is the version I am currently testing, altho Goncezilla has ran his to 1250 Mhz stable I believe)
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Team-B does indeed have an OC in progress. It is in testing now. So far it seems to run very stable at 1188 Mhz (that is the version I am currently testing, altho Goncezilla has ran his to 1250 Mhz stable I believe)
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As OP states i am indeed a noob. If i overclock a device will i save battery or burn it faster?
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As OP states i am indeed a noob. If i overclock a device will i save battery or burn it faster?
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Overclocking by itself will typically decrease battery life. Undervolting, on the other hand, has great potential to increase battery life, even when combined with overclocking.
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Overclocking by itself will typically decrease battery life. Undervolting, on the other hand, has great potential to increase battery life, even when combined with overclocking.
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Ok. Whats undervolting?
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Running the processor on a lower voltage than stock. Many chips may be able to run just fine using less power.
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What do you guys think is better smartassv2 or ondemand? I usually use smartassv2 but im not sure with the rezound.
I'm using ondemand and its been perfect for me. no rebooted and great battery life.
I flashed incredikernel 6 the day it was released weeks ago.
I use on-demand, I have not had a single reboot/bootloop etc yet & the battery life is super.
I use on demand with the stock Kernel (using cleanrom 3.5). I drop the cpu down to about 1.ghz and set a profile for on demand between 192 and 760 something when the screen is off. I only dropped about 3 percent a few nights ago while sleeping (6.5 hours roughly). (the phone doesn't go into sleep mode and I dont have a battery saver). I don't get that with my heavy usage, but that is a big plus.
Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
I had been using ondemand up until a few days ago. The last couple days I have been using interactive, and it seems like both battery life and performance are somewhat better, although I have no hard numbers to support this, and I have really random usage.
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smartassv2 seems to be working well for me so far.
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Where do you guys get the download for ondemand? Back in the day when I had the OG Droid, everyone used SetCPU. Doesn't seem to be the app of choice any more to set frequencies. I can't find ondemand (or smartass for that matter) in the market. ANy suggestions?
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They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
Or if you use incredikernel the app incredicontrol goes along with it perfectly and is 100% totally stable for me. I have tried every kernel there is both GB and ICS on my phone and incredikernel and the stock kernel are the only ones that will run stability test scaling stability test all night long without bootlooping.
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They're features on the kernel. When you install the kernel you'll be able to check which one you wanna use from the app. (SetCPU may be good, but it seems the apps of choice on the Rezound are AnTuTu or Systems Tuner Pro, I use AnTuTU.)
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Thank you so much for the reply. I am just sticking with the stock Kernal for now, but I was interested in undervolting the kernal while it's in sleep mode and while charging to see if I can save battery life. I just tried SetCPU, but was not pleased with the constant SU pop ups. It was keeping my screen awake. I think I'll five AnTuTu a shot.
If I ever load a custom kernal, I'll know what to keep an eye out for.
I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
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I have completely given up on undervolting at this point, I never once saw a noticeable increase in battery life but I definitely ended up with a less stable phone.........
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What we need are more custom kernels.
I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
Interstingly, it was 10 - 12 with OnDemand. Interactive seems to be better.
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I have undervolted (Incredikernel with Incredicontrol) and it's quite stable and the battery life is pretty good. I can get 12 - 16 hours with the stock battery with medium usage (texting, browsing).
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Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
CPU Tuner is awesome also. Might be the best.
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Have you ever tried leaving all the settings exactly the same and NOT undervolting??
I would be willing to bet the battery life would be almost identical.
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Actually, yes. It did make a difference. Not as significant as on the Incredible, although that may be a difference in HAVS vs SVS.
But what works for one may not work for all.
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im hoping IMO ends up making a kernel for us. i know he makes them for the thunderbolt.
I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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I'm pretty content with Inredikernel. I'm sure Chad is going to hit us with something awesome soon.
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The more options the better though.
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The more options the better though.
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Well played sir. /bow
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My ATT Note is not as smooth as my ATT S2. Got a bit lagging. I would like to overclock it. The concern i have is only battery life (it's already not that great).
Can someone put down some thoughts pros and cons with overclocking? Do you see the Note run smoother and battery life is the same?
Thanks guys
What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
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What you are seeing is TouchWiz. This is common to many devices. Before rooting and overclocking which involves running a kernel that supports overclocking try a different launcher.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Exactly right. I use setcpu to underclock to 700mhz when I'm on a call, and when the screen is off. I regularly have 30-40% battery left after 18hrs of use....
I downloaded ADW ICS theme and my home screen, print app drawer is silky smooth. Way better than the stock GB.
But I assume you mean overall performance.
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ADW is my personal favorite. Everything runs great on it with no stutters. Someone also stated that GO launcher is really smooth and fluid with the new update put out.
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The S2 runs touchwiz, doesn't it?
OP; overclock kernels are controllable with apps like SetCPU, so it's easy to find a good medium between battery life and performance.
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Yes but a different version.