just discovered this app (was preinstalled w/ Aloysius V11) and it seems to make a huge difference in speed.
I used the aggressive preset and immediately saw a huge inscrease in page loading, changing between apps etc.
anyone else mess around with this and anything to be cautious of?
There have been dozens of arguments whether a task killer is beneficial or not. For everyone that says that it ruins their phones, there is someone like you that loves it. If it works for you, awesome! It really depends on the phone and the rom you are using. Many others of have tried this and had results ranging from the best thing since sliced bread to this drains my phone like a vampire. Doesn't hurt to try it, so have at it. If it doesn't work, then uninstall it and be happy, if it does, then keep it and be the same. This might or might not make sense, depending on how much I (or you) have already drank this evening. heh...
Autokiller = pulling ram data into cpu = more cpu usage = less battery = less cpu downtime
But hey if you like it go for it. I think you should stick to agressive. You always want the least setting possible while still increasing speed.
The only suggestion that I can make is some programs you may want to exclude from auto kill. Example, if you look at the running programs, one of them is called people. If it is killed, then any custom ringtones you assigned will not function and everyone will have the default ringtone although it shows a ringtone assigned to them. Another example is if you run Live wallpaper, that specific wallpaper has to be excluded from the auto kill list because when auto kill is ran, the live wall paper will shut off.
I could be mistaken, but I was under the assumption that autokiller did not actually kill apps, but that it only modified the way that the system manages the free ram. Is this not so?
I have noticed no battery decrease when using it, and have noticed an increase in speed. I have it set to optimum.
Thoughts?
It changes the min settings on android, which is when android decides when to kill an app. This doesn't mean that it won't pull it into the cpu, which will use battery. It's better than a regular task manager though.
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The one thing i'm most after is saving my battery
so i gathered up a few tricks which you can use without using your phone like a Nokia 1100..
You might have read many from the below, but some might be new to you..
1) Brightness.. Keep it 0% indoors, 50-(as much required)% outdoors.
You should keep the brightness minimum but dont push your eyes for battery saving purposes..
Use as much brightness as u would need to view stuff outdoors..
EYES>>BATTERY
2) The lesser the eye candy, the more battery life you get.
Ok, you got an android, you want to show off with fancy stuff..
but the more the widgets/apps you use to beautify, the more they consume your battery.
so use minimal widgets (none if possible)..
& DONT USE LIVE WALLPAPERS..!!
they look awesome no doubt but suck up the juice faster than i'd empty a coca-cola..
3)Overclocking..!!
Now different users have different experiences but i guess almost all would agree with the guy who made the kernels..
as fserve says and as i have experienced myself
use
Smartass - for best performance : battery saving ratio.
Conservative - for best battery backup with normal performance.. (multitasking might be slow [have experienced only with Opera Mini], rest all apps multitask with no lag)
Keep minimum frequency at 480Mhz (BEST VALUE)
If you want little more battery keep it at 122Mhz (if you dont mind the occasional blackscreen bug or a freezes/hangs that it might cause )
&
Keep the max at 652-768 as you wish..
Just mind that battery life will depend on the amount you choose..
So if you are a gamer choose high (as for you performance > battery)
all others can go for 652-729 as u prefer..
4) ROM
Now your ROM also determines your battery very significantly..
Every ROM has different apps it runs int he background.
Now i cant comment as to which is bad or which is good, coz every developer has done a great job with their ROM.
But as a general observation i can say, by far
OXYGEN v1.1 (.32 kernel) has given me the max battery backup (even though it doesnt lack on performance a bit)
Rest you should try out yourself for the best one that suits you
JUST DONT STICK TO LG OFFICIAL GINGERBREAD.. NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS HAPPY WITH IT!!
5)No Battery saver/Task Killer/Memory optimizer bullcrap..!!
Its as simple as that, as much you think they save your battery, they definitely consume some to run themselves..
So its best to do stuff manually than install all this..
PS: If you are too lazy you can stick to them..
6) TTS Trick
You must have the voice input output setting in settings.
And you must have the Pico TTS installed in it..
Just tick always use my settings in there..
It reduces your CPU consumption as the phone doesnt check everytime for settings and uses the default ones..
Cant say if this has increased my backup marginally, but meh, doesnt hurt..
7) Games means less backup..
You are on a 10k 1500mAh phone.
So dont expect full day backups if you are an avid gamer..
with heavy usage if you are getting 10-12 hrs backup, you are lucky..
people with 1-2 days backup use phone as a smartphone not a PSP..
and people with more than that backup (3-7 or 11 days), use phone as a nokia phone not a smartphone..
8) Location
If you want to use weather widgets etc. skip this step
For all others, in settings > location & security untick both wireless & GPS options.
You can tick them whenever you need, like to check-in..
Just turn them on and after you are done, turn them off..
9) 3G
I think everyone knows 3G is a major battery hogger..
For calls etc use 2G
as for internet usage
Wifi > 2G > 3G
Though mind that even 2G uses quite some battery as your network keeps searching for better signals..
So wifi is the best option..
10) Auto Sync
I personally dont use this option, coz as i said earlier, i own a smartphone..
anyhow disable background sync option in settings > accounts & sync for more backup..
11) Battery Hoggers
I personally only have noticed Facebook as one of the worst battery hogger (mark suckerberg)
but
sweetnsour has pointed out certain more apps that consume considerable amount of battery. so avoid them..
Google Maps
Task killers
GetJar
XDA
12) TITANIUM BACKUP
I cant imagine my life without it..
Its a MUST HAVE app..!!
you can freeze battery hoggers with it, if you dont want to remove them.
Just defrost later to use them..
You can even remove system apps which might be unnecessary (like car home, gtalk, or others as per your usage and requirements)
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Only Titanium Backup Pro has that function. If you don't want to pay (or pirate), there is a free alternative of Link2SD's freeze function, if you're already using Link2SD as your app-to-sd script. It can also unfreeze apps frozen by Titanium and vice versa.
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13) AIRPLANE!
Unless you are some hot-shot businessman u should keep ur cell at airplane mode at night.
Not only will it save LOTS of battery on standby, but will save you from the radiation as well if u keep ur phone near ur head..
14) BATTERY CALIBRATION
If for some reason, you are having unreasonable drains and you cant figure out what the problem is, Calibrate your battery.
I recently faced this problem and now its back to normal..
Its free & easy, just follow the steps d developer has mentioned.
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Sources : Personal Experience, XDA, Google
How about auto run manager? To prevent @pps from starting up on their own and hog battery? (I use Gemini app manager)
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Related to bloatware freezing (#12)... only Titanium Backup Pro has that function. If you don't want to pay (or pirate), there is a free alternative of Link2SD's freeze function, if you're already using Link2SD as your app-to-sd script. It can also unfreeze apps frozen by Titanium and vice versa.
Nice tips but min. Frequency that low... I heard 480 was the ideal.
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added the Link2SD tip..
and as to the autostart up manager, as like #5 says, it might close apps at startup but it surely will consume some of its own, so better go the manual way
ScripterJR said:
Nice tips but min. Frequency that low... I heard 480 was the ideal.
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yep 480 is the best..
122 though saves more battery, as i have written it causes blackscreen bugs and sometimes freezes the phone (coz the cpu kinda goes into sleep mode)..
Just saw this guide and i must say its pretty well done !
Could you add more info on minfree values and adjusting them, because as far as i remember they increase battery life alongside a performance boost.
Lycan said:
Just saw this guide and i must say its pretty well done !
Could you add more info on minfree values and adjusting them, because as far as i remember they increase battery life alongside a performance boost.
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i dont have enough knowledge over that topic, so i'd rather not direct someone in d wrong direction..
but i know for sure, to set Minefree values right V6 Supercharger is the best way..
very useful for me
some corrections i guess...
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JUST DONT STICK TO LG OFFICIAL GINGERBREAD.. NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS HAPPY WITH IT!!
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SOme people are happy with LG stock gingerbread, so it's incorrect to say that.
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9) 3G
I think everyone knows 3G is a battery resource..
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you forgot the word"hog"
The strategy which I follow to get some more juice out of my battery is to take backup of all my APKs in SD. Check which applications tend to run in background, uninstall those which are needed only on and off. Reinstall and use when required.
myawan said:
The strategy which I follow to get some more juice out of my battery is to take backup of all my APKs in SD. Check which applications tend to run in background, uninstall those which are needed only on and off. Reinstall and use when required.
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thats hectic.
why not just freeze/unfreeze them. that totally disables them as well
vj_dustin said:
thats hectic.
why not just freeze/unfreeze them. that totally disables them as well
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I had problems with freezing some apps like 'quiet sleep', resulting in FC of Titanium Backup itself
Advanced task killer is a very good app but i found that when i put it to kill tasks when screen off, it sometimes doesn't work??? It happened with my galaxy s and now with my xperia s
I know this is not really answering your question, but you should consider not using an automatic task killer.
Three reasons are:
* A task that does nothing but is only started doesn't suck battery life or processor power, killing it however does.
* A task that is started automatically because it does work in the background should be disabled another way if possible, because killing it will make it restart, again sucking battery life.
* If your concern is free memory you should know that memory that is used doesn't take more power than memory that is free. But again, freeing it uses power.
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I know this is not really answering your question, but you should consider not using an automatic task killer.
Three reasons are:
* A task that does nothing but is only started doesn't suck battery life or processor power, killing it however does.
* A task that is started automatically because it does work in the background should be disabled another way if possible, because killing it will make it restart, again sucking battery life.
* If your concern is free memory you should know that memory that is used doesn't take more power than memory that is free. But again, freeing it uses power.
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
Use provided browser is best.
Also dolphin have big security issuse, try and google it
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opera mini is also great browser imo..stock one is also ok I guess.. dolphin a bit laggy..at least for me
I can recommend Boat Browser. Very lightweight and supports tabbed browsing. At least I am very pleasantly surprised of how good it really is.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boatbrowser.free
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
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Have you considered using Watchdog if apps are hanging or freezing? It monitors them better an alerts you if an app is misbehaving. It's just an idea as opposed to using an auto task killer which is, quite bluntly, screwing with your current apps and OS.
Has anyone else had issues of running out of memory? I often have 500+MB being used at any given time. A couple of days ago, I was using my GPS, listening to iHeartRadio and texting and my phone slowed to a crawl. Once I finally got task manager open, I had about 10MB free. I've had this happen with stock and custom ROMs.
It seems like I constantly stand at having over 400MB used.
So, how's it look for everyone else?
i've never had an issue and it should be warning you way before you get 10mb that you are low on resources
Welcome to HTC Sense.
Today, I was in a pickle because I was in a part of town I had no idea about, I was driving to and from about three places with important documents that needed to be delivered where people were waiting on me to close on a house.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to get my phone brightness up via the notification menu quick settings, open maps and find a location and navigation to there, long pressing to multitask, and text, and I was just going to fast for the phone. It was bogged down and in that hectic moment, it was just frustrating. I forgot I could have used task manager. I wonder if that would've helped me.
I love the phone. It feels great in my hand and looks sexy both physically and in its display, but this phone should not perform like the EVO 4G. I'm an HTC fanboy, but I am not above calling out a flaw. If I were an android developer wizard, I would try to fix it. But no.
I'm just trying to relate and say, I get you. ^_^
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Task manager helped in that it simply exited EVERYTHING. It kicked me out of navigation, stopped the music and brought me down to about 450MB used. Odd thing was that even though nothing was listed as running, everytime I hit refresh the memory usage was increasing.
It probably is because of sense, but it just looks so nice!
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Task manager helped in that it simply exited EVERYTHING. It kicked me out of navigation, stopped the music and brought me down to about 450MB used. Odd thing was that even though nothing was listed as running, everytime I hit refresh the memory usage was increasing.
It probably is because of sense, but it just looks so nice!
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If your rooted, try AutoKiller Memory, it tweaks the OOM settings of the kernel making it more efficient while managing your dormit and active memory cycles.
The dev has a great resource page you can learn much about what happens in the Android world when it comes to memory utilization.
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If your rooted, try AutoKiller Memory, it tweaks the OOM settings of the kernel making it more efficient while managing your dormit and active memory cycles.
The dev has a great resource page you can learn much about what happens in the Android world when it comes to memory utilization.
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Out of curiosity what are your OOM levels set at and does it help with multitasking on our devices?
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Out of curiosity what are your OOM levels set at and does it help with multitasking on our devices?
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First, in the Development options I keep the Backgroud process limit the Standard and I set the AutoKiller Memory to Strict profile, which has given me good results so far, but you can play around with your settings because I know we don't have the same amount of apps or configuration overall.
Keep in mind also that I am not running a custom ROM, I'm STOCK rooted only without bloatware removed or any major changes.
I did use the search function. There was a similar thread posted a day ago but I'd like to do a more in-depth query here. The more extensive one has been dormant since April so I figure that I might as well open a new one.
I'm sorry if this sounds like a rant, but I want to do a serious investigation of the multitasking woes in the S3.
Just some background of my experiences:
Having flashed the latest official (ending with MF6), I must say that multitasking is just atrocious and my apps close for every 3rd one I open. RAM is always full, and once cleared it is bogged down again. And again. And again. The iPhone 4, with 512 MB RAM, can manage better than this. The RAM heavy ones (Facebook, Chrome, YT, etc.) are the worst of all-as they close down even when you don't touch the phone for a period of time.
What exactly is using up my RAM? Please don't come back to me with the Free RAM=Wasted RAM argument. I have seen no speed improvement of apps "cached in memory" compared to those that I just opened up.
I remembered back in the days of the S2 release people called 1 GB RAM unnecessary, and to an extent this is true, as the S2 was able to do some serious multitasking of 8-9+ apps without having to close any of them. Other flagships (HTC Sensation) did fine with 768 MB RAM. Heck, the Galaxy S1 seemed fine with 512 MB RAM. The OS can run, camera works fine, I can play videos fine. So where exactly did this 512 MB of extra RAM go, when the Galaxy S3 is upped to 1 GB of RAM?
I have tried zRAM 300 MB, 400 MB, 600 MB. They all make the phone remarkably slow. Initially it does prove to be somewhat useful, but over time multitasking becomes completely hopeless again.
Is there ever going to be a solution to this, or do I really have to get a 2 GB RAM phone to actually be able to use it?
Well, mate, this has been discussed over and over as you may be aware. Honestly, i've lost hope for stock firmwares on multitasking. Some people swear by zram or even swap and while it does work i didn't find the results very good. Someone may come up with a more thorough explanation on how all the ram is being actually used (and it has been written already, i've seen it around) but at this point i just don't really care much.
Bottomline, you have 3 options:
- install some aosp rom and never see this problem again (some others may come up due to lack of sources for exynos)
- compromising speed for multitasking purposes with zram, swap and there were some atempts at plain better multitask management with supercharger and others
- ignore and live with it and try to change your phone for anything else asap - samsung botched this and is making no effort i can see for a fix. If they don't care about you it's only fair you don't care about them either.
I'm aiming for a nexus4 when i find one cheap around. Plenty of power, 2Gb, fastest updates in the business. Should come down in price even more when any new phones hit the market.
This is a really big issue with this phone.
First of all, don't compare it to the iphone, cause the iphone doesn't actually multitask as it freezes apps in the background.
Start downloading something with safari and open another app in iphone. Then the download stops until you switch back to safari.
iOs multitasking philosophie is completely different to android.
Now, having paid 600euros and being unable to multitask is really frustrating. I've tried several things like different roms, external swap, internal swap, zram blah blah.
The truth is that although the stock touchwiz roms offer stuff like multi-window, they are really REALLY laggy in my opinion. I once decided to flash a cm10.1 (aosp) based rom. I haven't regretted since. I felt as if i had a completely new phone. I suggest you try such a rom. you wont regret it.
Also, there are some apps that allow you to freeze background processes. I use Rom Toolbox pro for example and i have frozen many background apps so I've reduced the amount of ram being used. Search on xda, there is a thread about which backgroung services are safe to be frozen.
Also, use greenify. Greenify stops apps from running in the background when you dont need them. Maps for example keep running in the background consuming 20mb for no reason. Greenify such apps so that they consume your ram only when you need them to do so.
Plus, change your LMK settings. The Low Memory Killer is an android service that kills apps when the amount of ram falls beneath a limit. Use an app such as Rom Toolbox to lower your limits so that apps don't get closed so often.
Finally, try zram with the appropriate settings. I use Googy-Max kernel which has bult-in zram support. I use 600mb of zram with 80% swappiness.
Having these things altered i can run at least 5 apps simultaneously without any problems. For example i run facebook and messenger along with whatsapp and skype. When i open the browser to search for something, none of the other apps gets closed.
Ofcourse if you try to run many apps, you may experience app-closing or lags. But remember, the key, is to close apps that you dont need.
Also, if your phone feels laggy just reboot it. For the next 24 hours you ll be fine without any lags.
Hopeless multitasking continues even on CM11 4.4.4. I don't understand what the reason for bad multitasking. When I switch from Dolphin browser to any other app and come just after 5 seconds I find it killed. Even I can't upload a photo to a browser. While I am selecting the, browser page was shut down.
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
bonerp said:
It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.