Advanced task killer is a very good app but i found that when i put it to kill tasks when screen off, it sometimes doesn't work??? It happened with my galaxy s and now with my xperia s
I know this is not really answering your question, but you should consider not using an automatic task killer.
Three reasons are:
* A task that does nothing but is only started doesn't suck battery life or processor power, killing it however does.
* A task that is started automatically because it does work in the background should be disabled another way if possible, because killing it will make it restart, again sucking battery life.
* If your concern is free memory you should know that memory that is used doesn't take more power than memory that is free. But again, freeing it uses power.
Pezo said:
I know this is not really answering your question, but you should consider not using an automatic task killer.
Three reasons are:
* A task that does nothing but is only started doesn't suck battery life or processor power, killing it however does.
* A task that is started automatically because it does work in the background should be disabled another way if possible, because killing it will make it restart, again sucking battery life.
* If your concern is free memory you should know that memory that is used doesn't take more power than memory that is free. But again, freeing it uses power.
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
Use provided browser is best.
Also dolphin have big security issuse, try and google it
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opera mini is also great browser imo..stock one is also ok I guess.. dolphin a bit laggy..at least for me
I can recommend Boat Browser. Very lightweight and supports tabbed browsing. At least I am very pleasantly surprised of how good it really is.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boatbrowser.free
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well i tell you why i want to use it. Its only when screen off anyways so minimum killing when necessary. But for example sometimes i start dolphin app and just go back to the main screen but dolphin is still running and using cpu, my phone gets hot, it seems sometimes apps get stuck in cpu. Then when i turn off the phone it will kill it cos of the task killer. If i turn off the phone and i dont kill it, dolphin will continue to use up 40% continuously making the phone hot and use up massive battery. Im sure some of you know this it happens with other apps too maybe its a problem with android gingerbread. Note dolphin doesn't always do this, only sometimes.
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Have you considered using Watchdog if apps are hanging or freezing? It monitors them better an alerts you if an app is misbehaving. It's just an idea as opposed to using an auto task killer which is, quite bluntly, screwing with your current apps and OS.
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Hi All,
I came across a few articles online that suggest that the task managers/killers actually do more harm than good. As far as I know, the Android OS is pretty good at multitasking and managing apps when it is needed to free RAM/CPU.
Would like to hear input specifically regarding the X10 and how these apps affect the system and/or phone specially after the 2.1 update?
Thanks!
Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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I've read online about how closing some apps such as mediascape will affect your other media applications cos these services are tied together. But I've always killed all of the ones I don't see myself needing in the next hour or so, and nothing's ever really crashed for me heh.
But I do make it a point to close all apps before running quadrant. Very very pleased with my 730 score
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Well aince I got to 2.1 Ive havent found the need to download a task killer. Its been stable with 100-140mb constant no matter how many apps I open. But in 1.6 I was getting 20mb if I didnt use task killer lol im guessing the need for task killer as the os upgrades gets less and less as 2.2 really gets ****ed by it lol
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Dumb question, how do you check the RAM?
Best get something like autokiller memory optimizer.
You generally don't need much ram free and if you don't use apps that will eat the hell out of your system in the bg then there's no problem at all.
I haven't used a task killer since switching to 2.1 and there's no performance problems.
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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gaolinde said:
I still facing ram problem even after upgrade 2.1, hope no need any task killer anymore once we get 2.2
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
By automatism, after I updated to 2.1 I installed advanced task killer, and at one point I noticed that, whean I had killed apps ammount of free RAM decereased ? So at that point, I uninstalled task killer to check will I notice any change in performance, and there was NONE I could notice, together with same battery duration.
So, so far I vote for no task killers.
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Not sure if the X10 will get 2.2. Looks like 2.1 is the end of the road for us.
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come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
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come on we have 2.2 custom rom on the way.
and good new is i just tested the custom room it appeared froyo managed ram really well, i launched a ton of software and still having more than 100mb of free ram.
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Yeah I know we have custom ROMs. I was referring to the official update from SE. I know we will get the UXP update sometime in the future but, not sure if they will go as far as releasing a 2.2 update for the X10?
I don't use it anymore since on 2.1, when using it on 2.1 there's a lot of glitches and it DOES do more harm than good. I get better overall performance without it.
I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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I use it, facebook, skype start by themselves and drain my battery
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Yes but, according to Android developers, 2.1 automatically closes these idle programs to prevent that. They claim that android is capable of handling this and that any task manger apps are useless.
Read this article http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
Since upgrade to 2.1, I installed Task Killer. It cleaned my memory to have available mem from 80MB to 150MB. However, it got some weired behaviour such as
- X10 got lag for a moment when the screen is just back on.
- when the screen is just back on, Wifi cannot reconnect. I have to disable and enable it again.
So I read to post of Android multitasking and I try it by disable AutoKill but keep the widget on the sceen to see the available mem.
My mem keep available around 70-80MB and X10 performance is increase. No more lag or have to re-enable wifi after screen is back on.
I already remove Taskkiller but installed Watchdog instead. Because there are some bad coding software out there which comsume the battery and CPU even you've exited. In such a case, I have to kill those apps manually.
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You want the memory to be as full as possible!!! This means that those often used tasks are there, waiting. This is not Windows! Stop forcing Android to reload everything from scratch! No wonder things are lagging for you.
I've done many experiment about it.
Here's few conclusion, everything you guys claims are all true.
Android is nix base, fulfilling ram mean more cache, more speed.
However, more process mean more CPU usage in some service.
Some softwares are not properly coded, it, unfortunately, doesn't release the resource when it exits
And it's also true that force killing it, will eat more battery because without properly closing, it will eventually open up again
I suggest, instead of killing a task using ATK.
try this one.
http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller
It teaches android how to deal with the memory, so it's android who do your dirty job.
Hmm.... I take a look at at autokiller. I think it's better to let Android handle the mem for me. What I'm looking for is an apps that monitor backgound processes/apps that consumes CPU and memory which they should not.
Once identify those apps, I need to kill them individually.
Watchdog paid version suits me well on this purpose. I can put those apps in the blacklist. If they consumes more CPU in the background process, Watchdog will kill them automatically.
I may consider autokiller when I have of low memory warning from my X10 which is currently I have not.
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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Try install these app
1. RamDroid
2. Advance Task Killer- set the killing frequency to 'switch screen off'
3. CpuTuner (setcpu)- i prefer use the 'ondemand' frequency cos i wan to conserve battery.
all free app.. and need rooted phones. it quite user friendly. jus play with it awhile, u'll know how to use.
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I do without but my phone is seriously laggy at times, it drops under 20mb free ram within seconds after rebooting, extremely annoying! I heard things about jit, but I really have no idea how it works. Also I have a mac, so all those adb needed programs I can't run.
Is there any good application which can make my phone quicker? Now I have some times half screens by sliding through pages in the launcher, that can't be normal!
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I'm using minfreemanager from market with aggressive option, what gives me ~70MB free RAM by the Android's native taskkiller. It's the best choice as of the 2.1 have a lot services running in backround and nobody should harm them.
Trust me, minfreemanager is your weapon against slowness
I have CM7 stable on my NC and a few friends told me to get Advanced Task Killer to help battery. I had read somewhere that you should get task killers on android, can anyone explain why? and should i get it?
No task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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No task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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does it ruin my battery?
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does it ruin my battery?
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Android has a good memory manager that kills things as you use the device. The API for task killers was removed in froyo, and all versions since then, so while they might seem to work, the apps will just restart every time, which causes excess cpu usage, which equals more battery drain.
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Absolutely get ATK, I've used it for a year on my Droid and it's invaluable, even with Froyo. Sometimes my phone would get so slow from so many apps running that I can barely get ATK started. Then after I kill everything my phone is back to normal. What's funny is that IOS is a much more capable operating system in this regard. I can have tons of stuff open and nothing slows down, not so on Android.
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Absolutely get ATK, I've used it for a year on my Droid and it's invaluable, even with Froyo. Sometimes my phone would get so slow from so many apps running that I can barely get ATK started. Then after I kill everything my phone is back to normal. What's funny is that IOS is a much more capable operating system in this regard. I can have tons of stuff open and nothing slows down, not so on Android.
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Maybe so, but ATK doesn't kill them. They will always restart. If you must clear apps from memory go to settings>applications>manage applications then hit running and close all unwanted apps. Some will restart, but not all.
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Maybe so, but ATK doesn't kill them. They will always restart. If you must clear apps from memory go to settings>applications>manage applications then hit running and close all unwanted apps. Some will restart, but not all.
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What is head. ATK sucks battery and Android has great memory management already.
I don't know what the deal is but this is continually happening to me and across different roms. I am using the built in "Task Manager" feature of touchwiz to monitor what processes are using my cpu. I am finding that some things are sitting there using between 15-45% cpu at all times even when in the background. For example:
Today right before my lunch I checked the task manager, I stared at it for 2 minutes to make sure there was no cpu activity, when I saw that everything looked to me normal I clocked out for my lunch and left work. By the time I was done eating (my phone had been in my pocket the entire time by the way) I checked my phone to see what time it was and noticed that I had lost about 12% battery life in 30 minutes. I immediately opened task manager and found that Browser was in the red and running at a constant 45% cpu usage. I immediately exited the browser. I find that this is happening with other apps as well.
What could be causing this? And more importantly will ICS fix it?
Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
Yeah that shouldn't be happening.
I do hope a feature is implemented into android to have a 'do not run list' unless opened by user.
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Interesting. Browsers are always killing it for me.
For example I use Dolphin Browser. The ad-dons like Google services and tab switcher kill battery like a mother and also put a ton of CPU stress on the processor.
Only thing I can say is make sure to close out all apps because apps running in a background may run rampant.
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What I've resorted to is closing all web pages when im done and backing out of apps that I know have started to run out of control sometimes. There has to be an easier way though.
What about times like today when im researching something and have to run out for lunch and just throw my phone in my pocket with 8 browser windows open? I have to go back and find all the pages because I had to close them all out in fear that my battery would drain?
There has to be a better way. I switched to android bevaseu of the horrible memory management apple has. I would hate to leave android beacuse it couldnt control backgournd processes and let my battery be destroyed.
Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Memory management is good on these phones. Bad memory management causes slow downs.
What you're looking for is app management. I know some may jump on the me for saying anything about a task manager, but you might want to try one out.
Though I'd only recommend using it for the programs you're having issues with. Set it to 'only' kill the problem apps. Not any other apps or system processes.
What browser are you using? If it's happened across multiple roms, it may be an issue with that browser. Better to treat the problem (the app) than the symptom (battery getting drained)
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Well see its happening with the same apps across different roms so I know its either an android problem or a touchwiz problem. Can you reccomend any apps that will auto close apps if they start using too much CPU or an app that would allow auto kill on exit? Thank you.
There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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There's not any apps like that, at least yet. Task killers kill whether the app is using alot of cpu or not.
What apps are causing you issues? Have you compared what apps you have on your phone to entropy512's thread about known battery drainers?
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I remember seeing that thread somewhere before but don't know how to find it again.
Can you reccomend any task killer apps?
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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My favorite with my captivate was auto task manger. When you first open it, it tries to get you to update but the update is garbage.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mizusoft.autotaskmanager&hl=en
I haven't used one with my sgs II. Hasn't needed one so far.
Here's a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
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Thank you, I will read through this.
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Do we need them?
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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pressytcn said:
Newer phones has them build in their firmware and have more memory
But the 2010 models like the Htc desire etc needs those cleaning tools
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I herd that it slows your phone because you kill like chunks of the android software and you make it load back up again so its slower and makes your battery die quicker.
I can't explain in technical terms, but basically the Android OS is different than say Windows on your PC, where you don't really want to have a bunch of processes running in the background. It actually optimizes performance to have it loaded in the memory, and by killing it you only make your phone work that much harder to either load it when you want to use it, or when it continues to load itself into the memory a short time later.
When I first got my smartphone, someone recommended Advanced Task Killer to me as a battery saving tool, but I never noticed any improved battery life. If anything, the constant checking and killing of tasks made me use the phone more and drained the battery faster.
I'm using go launcher and it has the option of killing running tasks, and once you do, you can leave the phone untouched and come back to it 20 mins later, all those programs are back up and running, so I don't even bother with killing them, just leave it all running. I've never noticed an improvement with battery life either, or noticed any lag with a bunch of apps running in the background.
Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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Best thing you can do is debloat, that way there are fewer apps running, that you don't need anyway.
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First off most task killers are just bs.
The real way to stop tasks from sucking up your memory and or slowing your phone is exactly what andy said.
Dl titanium back up pro, and "freeze" or (with caution of course)
Remove them.
Most apps restart any ways so it a waste.
Check your permissions, see what your also are doing im the background, and shut off what you don't like or want.
I use go launcher/locker(sorry about my lil ics joke...lol) as well and that task killer is just like the others...worthless. lol.
I have found that the task killer by gannicus is ok, but again what's the point when **** just reboots ..
Hope that helps
Well, I use htcs task manager to close the browser because if even if you click back to exit it, it still stays open, but that's pretty much it
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I use
1. Go launcher which is instead of sense
2. Go TaskManager widget. it is awesome.
3. root uninstaller to delete the crap.
4. Autorun manager to stop the apps that I don't need them to run when I reboot.
5. There is another one is more simple than the first one . it's startup manager
Note: 3,4, and 5 starts when you reboot so to stop that use Autorun manager to stop startup manager and use startup manager to stop Autorun manager and root uninstaller.
Sometimes you don't like some apps to be deleted but they are annoying because they start with the system, so use 4 and 5
I use both of them because each one has its own ability.
Do Not Shut the apps that are important to not brick your phone.
Use it on your own risk
I can explain in technical terms...you should never use them...task killers kill tasks which android OS will spend time restarting, by doing this, your battery and CPU will get used more and you will actually find your phone laggier and running out of battery faster....
I have lots of applications on my phone that need to have their permissions modified...
But I use them to see what crapware is starting itself for no good reason.. Sorry deja but if your app loss itself for more than 2 minutes twice a day?... It's crapware...
My phone my rules... I don't want something running unless I request it... I'm willing to wait for it to load if its goona run smoothly... this is the standard tradeoff quick load or smooth running... But if I haven't used WhatsApp in 3 days why does it run constantly regardless of settings??.. It's crapware
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Hi, I have a 4.2 and my RAM always gets used up. I try my best to close background programs, but yet I still have barely any left. I always have to force restart the player. This problem started happening out of nowhere. I didn't install any apps or anything either... I've been using ADW Launcher EX and ics keyboard for a while. Any help?
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You could try Go launcher EX. That seems to manage my RAM better. Also, if you are not already doing so, turn off your Wi-Fi when you are not using it or it is not around. Also once you turn off your Wi-Fi, try rebooting, that usually will stop any apps that stay open and require Wi-Fi in various ways that somehow are still active. You could also try a custom kernel, I use Terrasilent and my 64 emulator run smoother and I seem to have more RAM. On top of that to you could try a custom governor, which controls your RAM. Just stay away from task manager apps, they add to the problem instead of solving it.
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actually, its not bad that your ram is filled up.
Consider this -- Jerry did/said/thought something that made his wife mad (yes, she can read my thoughts), so he bought flowers from the 7-Eleven and wants to make a mix CD of her favorite Rod Stewart songs to give to her and get his ass out of the doghouse. It could happen. Consider which is more efficient:
Burn 20 songs to a CD, give to wife, and smile while she plays it.
Burn one song to a CD, let her listen, then erase it and burn the next song.
That's what your phone (or tablet) has to consider. Loading Google Talk to RAM once, and having it there to open almost instantly is far better than loading it each and every time you want to use it. So why kill it off? It's not like you'll never use it again, and nothing else is going to use that RAM while it's sitting empty -- at that point, it's wasted space. You will also use a lot more battery power re-opening Talk every time you get a message than you will by having the zeros held as ones on your RAM. The folks who built Android really did know what they were doing when it comes to memory management. After the parameters are set, and the amount the OS can use to "swap" for it's normal operations, the rest is simply wasted if we're not using it. What is cached in RAM is just sitting there, not using any CPU cycles, but ready to get pushed to the front and appear on the screen as fast as it can, and not use the extra battery needed to start it up from disk again.
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Thanks! I'm just waiting for software to be developed so I can get a faster device.
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