Hi there
I've noticed in a few of the other forums (while looking for a desire owning friend) that there are a few desire froyo sense roms popping up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724123
I was just wandering if this meant that at some point we would see similar developments on the ol' hero?
Cheers
boch501
yeahhh it would be nice to have
Porting from desire would be horrible, due to very different hardware, different screen size and different screen ratio.
Very doubtful that a desire port will ever happen. There's really no point as the legend (which is far easier to port from) will get an update to 2.2, and thats a much better bet.
Patience! the devs at the moment are just trying to get a perfect AOSP 2.2 rom first!
yeah it's look like a very good rom, if it's possible to port it on a htc hero, i take it
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
bonesy said:
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
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or the legend
bonesy said:
In Q&A Not development please...
Probably have to wait for the slide to get 2.2 w/sense before it gets ported over
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Sorry man! Should have known better!
And awesome, I will await the day! I am sadly one of those that has got too used to sense!
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Sorry man! Should have known better!
And awesome, I will await the day! I am sadly one of those that has got too used to sense!
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I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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Yeah excatly! I thaught I HAD to have sense before a actually gave an AOSP ROM a chance and now I don't see why I would have sense
Lennyuk said:
I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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Sadly not for me (yet!). Things stopping me from going Vanilla:
Flickr Sync... soon to change http://www.flicka.mobi/
Music Widget... http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.piratemedia.musicmod Froyo Only
Bookmarks Widget... no solution (Live Bookmarks maybe?)
Music PLayer LockScreen ... no solution
Lennyuk said:
I "gave up" sense full time not that long ago really, and now I don't think I will ever want to go back. As soon as you think it through and make a list of what you actually like about sense, you can soon realise that better things can happen without it.
widgets are easily replaceable or forgotten, UI in some launchers are much much better than sense, better settings and better roms
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I did give up Sense for a bit but I missed the widgets the bottom bar sucks compared to LauncherPro, its the widgets that bring me bac.
im using vanilla or froyo depending on mood and what day!
I have used froyo w/sense on my mates desire and i cant wait for it to be on the hero (probably have a better phone by then but nevermind) all the things that put me of sense 2.1 arent there in sense 2.2.... No lag going from screen to screen! stupidly fast (he gets 38-42 on linpack) and hd recording (only on snapdragon i know) if you know someone with a desire cionvince them to root it and put 2.2 on im sure you vanilla fans will love it!!
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Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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Wrong topic and who cares of your opinion, don't gotta be negative. Don't like it don't use it. In my opinion I love it even though there's no landscape. It's sexy and looks nice and nothing freezes for me, freezing of apps is because of Windows Mobile not Manila 2.5
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There is a landscape fix Here
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i think before u start complaining is to try other ROMs that run 2.5 AFIAK even though u tried an EnergyROM try the LATEST EnergyROM it has a very stable and fast Sense 2.5 built in IMHO
and for your issues with SMS messaging recommend to search for Zenyee's disable htc messaging app
and it seems ur stability issues can lead to a bad flash OR you installed something to slow down ur phone, reflash and run the ROM without installing any apps, install ONE app at a time and check to see which one leads to ur crashes
install NeoS2007 graphics drivers, search for it and ull notice a significant difference in stability and smoothness
and if you honestly think that those are the worst ROMs why dont you go ahead and try to make your own??
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Exactly very good point !
You should try develooping and programming yourself before criticizing others' hardwork.
and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo
here
theknub said:
the community is here for development and the love of designing things. if you don't like something, don't use it.
it's like art, if u don't like something, you don't have to buy it. if you do, buy the print (or go for the original).
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Exactly I agree.
licht77 said:
How can I see if i got HTC-Sense 2.5 or TF3d1 / 2 ?
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If you have a clock + weather on the home page and if you have a twitter tab in ur slider then its SENSE2.5=manila2.5=TF3D 2.5.
If you have just the clock on the main page then it is TF3D2.1=Manila2.1
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i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
Stupid post
HTC sense was developed for the more advanced next gen phones.
azik said:
i don't think that there is something wrong with this thread. I didn't like the new Sense either, not because the chef did a bad job but because i simply didn't like it.
i think the worst part about sense is that there is no Programs tab anymore and you can only put 6 shortcuts to the Home screen. The concept itself is good but 6 shortcuts is not enough...at least for me. i also had some performance issues when it wasn't perfectly smooth on Touch Pro. Pry because it wasn't designed for it.
other than that i liked it, and i wanna say thanks to all chefs here for doing this tremendous job!
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Azik. Google up Max Ultimate... allows up to 20 shortcuts. Personally, it's the only way I was able to use 2.5.
I think the original poster was just stating his opinion that he didn't like Sense 2.5. But you guys are acting like Apple Fanboys going ballistic and coming out so rude...
I don't like it sense 2.5 either...
As much as this forum is to praise people's work, we can't be doing ONLY that all the time. sometimes the work sucks and needs to be said that way.
I don't think its chef's fault or anything and I appreciate the time each chef puts in. But these days the forum is full of latest cutting edge software THAT SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK WELL with tweaking, fixing bugs, do this and do that,etc...
I have gone back to older stable ROMs. I have the luxury of trying out these things because of the hard and good work of the chefs, the forum and the user community. Thank you all.
Have a nice day, everyone.
I love sense 2.5
It rocks! Maybe not for u but it is great for me
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and XERO i think you should try this graphics fix works better than neo here
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
You guys who are complaining about 2.5 do realise that its not actually intended to work on the Touch Pro don't you? The version that we are luckily able to run has been ported over from different phones (leo iirc?) which has more power available to it, and a different resolution, amongst many other differences.
So we are not able to run an official HTC final-polished-ready-to-go version of it, and we NEVER will..we get a hacked together port put together by some very talented people on these boards.
So you can justifyably say that current implementations of it has bugs, is unstable, has missing/overlapping icons/graphics or speed issues..but these are not HTC Sense issues.
Personally I really like it but don't run it day to day because of a few issues with the new messenging client when you have more than a few text messages (takes forever to load!), BUT I like sense itself..the questions of if its stable or not, and if its a good bit of software are completely different, and its not fair on HTC or the guys on this board to mix them up..
Just my 2c..
redtiger said:
Hey everbody,
i'm updating rom's on my touch pro, and i'm really surprised by the new sense 2.5 it's true that i choose it for the new hometab and the beauty mix of clock&wheater, but that sucks really, new htc messaging don't work, take more than 5sec to syncronise with inbox in sms& mails. most of the apps freeze, nothing is stable, so i'll come back to the tael rom without the "new" rom of sense 2.5!! i think that sense should me more stable and more faster. that's the worst rom i've seen and i ve tested the energy and tael rom.
am I alone to find that sense 2.5 sucks?
good night
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Sense doesn't suck. It's your phone. It wasn't designed to run on it for a reason...
LEO DUSK Rocks
This my second day on the "Leo" Sense 2.5 Dusk and it "ROCKS" NRGZ28 roms are great. Waiting to see what he does next!
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But then one should not open a thread and start speaking against a development if you don't like it don't use it.
Others like it they use it.
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Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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azik said:
Aren't discussion boards for discussing stuff? what is the point of having a forum for if people do not post their opinions and views on things?
Nobody is speaking against bad development. The topic is about HTC Sense nothing more nothing less.
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I second this. Also to the first poster, you can try a hard reset or re flash a new rom. I have had some issues with 2.5 myself and lately the new 2.5 roms seem much faster and stable. The chefs put a lot of work into making a rom, so I can see why they get upset,but on the same note its nice to vent about things when something is not working. When I had problems with 2.5 I decided to stick with 2.1 until recently , and now I really like 2.5. I am going to flash a 2.1 probably later today and see which I like best, but I am willing to bet its the 2.5 roms. 2.5+MaxManila=Bliss
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Anyone know if this graphics fix speeds up Sense and SMS? Tried NRG's ROM with Sense, loved it, but a little too slow on my FUZE. Switched back to NRG's Touch Flo 2.1 ROM.
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Yes it speeds up the whole Manile working all together the the GFx Boost or NEO GFx.
Imagine HTC sense on x10.....! Is this possible?
nothing can withstand repeated attacks of the mind!
that being said i'm sure it'll be a while but someone will manage it
Well.. I think that it should be possible. It works like a theme kinda, so the widgets won't work with the timescape thingy probably.
Funkstar82 said:
Imagine HTC sense on x10.....! Is this possible?
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Why always HTC Sense !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is so boring !!
killerskincanoe said:
nothing can withstand repeated attacks of the mind!
that being said i'm sure it'll be a while but someone will manage it
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Pretty much this.l
I am not sure sense would be a better alternative to what timescape/mediascape become at the loving hands of the smart guys here. I see a lot of potential there for some pretty cool stuff. Most websites that have reviewed the device seem to either like the racheal stuff or see some potential with some fixes. Obviously its an unknown as to where folks take it but I am not ready to throw it under the bus just yet. As to the question itself it took a fair while for sense to find its way onto other devices like the droid so I would expect something similar as far as time frames goes.
htc sense what??????? ahhh will people stop going on about that sense thing! there are enough devices with this on so i for one will not be interested in using the damn thing on ma x10. its all over xda for most android handsets and its just boring..............all the chefs all working on same ****! in hero forum all roms based on sense dumps and all bugged up! i love that whole vanilla feel ...... senseless!
X10
Hi,
This is my first post on XDA. Just bought my first Android phone, Sony Ericsson X10. I used to have Iphone, but made the change because i want more flexiblity. So far very happy with my choice!
Is there any rumors on new development on the X10? Like rom update? or other cool stuff for X10?
yes..htc It is so boring !!
Some genius has got to port the new sense ui over to the fascinate PLEASE!!!!
OMG ... someone actually likes Sense ?
Why not buy HTC?
I would love HTC Sense on my fascniate too. I came from an incredible and I miss it but the screen on the fascinate is just to hard to give up. Once i installed launcherpro i realized I could make this phone do what I want.
I had sense 2.5 on my Omnia i920 adn wouldn't mind seeing the sense interface on this beast...... You think anyone would be up for the challenge?
jv
Once we are able to compile a bootable kernel for our Fascinate and the 2.2 sourcecode becomes available, I will begin the porting of Sense with help of another dev who is doing the same thing for the Droid. But I will warn you, it will take awhile for it to happen due to the nature of Sense being so tightly integrated into the framework where the source code is not available.
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I'd love to see the new Sense Live Wallpaper.
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Once we are able to compile a bootable kernel for our Fascinate and the 2.2 sourcecode becomes available, I will begin the porting of Sense with help of another dev who is doing the same thing for the Droid. But I will warn you, it will take awhile for it to happen due to the nature of Sense being so tightly integrated into the framework where the source code is not available.
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yeah, i remember we tried for a good 3 months on the droid1 but never really fixed everything, and the project died out. Good luck, in my mind its not worth it at all.
fallingup said:
yeah, i remember we tried for a good 3 months on the droid1 but never really fixed everything, and the project died out. Good luck, in my mind its not worth it at all.
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Yeah, but I want to instead of just making a stripper ROM like everyone else and plus it will be fun. The biggest task is the Radio or RIL code because once that is done, everything will come naturally with patches. The good thing thou is we will be getting a lil help from the RIL master Vilord who originally made one for a WinMo port of Sense Android for the old HTC XV6900.
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yeah im a huge fan of sense ui. I personally think stock android is bland looking. I love the speed of launcherpro.....but those fake sense ui widgets kill me.
the new sense ui is amazing people!!
I too love sense. I have the incredible now, my first sense phone, and I think it is the best phone I have ever had (Captivate, Droid X, Droid, Droid2, and allot more). I am considering returning it for the fascinate though, the screen is just too hard to type on with the incredible. The 4" fascinate screen should be just about perfect though. I am still leary after the horrible experience with the captivate on AT&T though. The fascinate has the best looking hardware out though. Would love to have the option to put sense on it.
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yeah im a huge fan of sense ui. I personally think stock android is bland looking. I love the speed of launcherpro.....but those fake sense ui widgets kill me.
the new sense ui is amazing people!!
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fake? they work just as well, supported, and constantly updated by the developer.
The only thing I would take from the *new* sense is that 3 second boot up time. The rest of sense is UGH.
I can say that Sense is GREAT for people who just want a simple phone, its straight forward. Whenever a casual phone user asks for a recommendation, I recommend them an HTC phone or the iPhone.
I think the best bet is to use launcher pro plus and beautiful widgets. I imagine it won't be too long before someone makes a skin similar to the new sense look.
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Samsung Fascinate + LauncherPro Plus + Beautiful Widgets = Epic Android awesomeness, no need for Sense UI. Note that I used to be a huge fan of Sense UI. It's just not worth it due to the ridiculous amount of system resources it takes. After loading a non-Sense (no pun intended) Froyo ROM on my Eris, and got a HUGE boost in battery life, I realized just how badly Sense UI was draining the system, and that's likely why the Incredible has such bad battery life too. And even before switching to Froyo, while still running stock Eclair with Sense, I switched to LauncherPro, and immediately got a boost in performance. You won't notice the lag on the Incredible, due to the fast processor, but I'm guessing it's still a CPU hog underneath, which drains the battery fast.
Funny how my last post got removed...haha dont tell me this forum is practicing censorship all because I have an opinion?
Mine was deleted also??? Hmm? I simply recomended a widget that replicates the Sense clock/weather widget. I didn't know that was a crime.
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Funny how my last post got removed...haha dont tell me this forum is practicing censorship all because I have an opinion?
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When was it posted? everything that was posted and uploaded around yesterday was deleted due to a failed xda system maintenance.
Highly doubt anything in this section gets moderated.
Okay. I didn't know that. The widget I suggested was Fancy Widget. It is identical to the HTC Sense clock/weather widget. This plus launcher pro plus does the trick for me.
Sent from my Fascinate.
Yea lets get moto blur ported over too. Lol jk no on blur. But seriously I would donate for the hd on the fascinate, hell I would donate for vanilla froyo!
Shameless bump. I'd love to see sense on my Fascinate. I've loved SenseUI for ever, just seems like the perfect configuration.
OK so extreme props to guys like joelz that are actually trying to port sense 3.5 to the evo 3d... but why is there so few attempts ? the evo 4g has it and its great ... yet the evo 3d doesnt, why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
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OK so extreme props to guys like joelz that are actually trying to port sense 3.5 to the evo 3d... but why is there so few attempts ? the evo 4g has it and its great ... yet the evo 3d doesnt, why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
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because most people think its retarded looking? and there is little interest in it for users.
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because most people think its retarded looking? and there is little interest in it for users.
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T3project is there a way to port the widgets from the 3.5 to our 3.0 roms. I really like the mail mms market and music quick settings in the home screen of the 3.5 ROM.
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retarded looking ?
its far from retarded looking the carousel runs smoother the widgets are much better and it runs great ...
Few attempts are made because Sense 3.5 is hideous looking.
Two out of place buttons on your homescreen with a bar of widgets on the left? Absolutely atrocious. It doesn't even deserve the .5 increment in build strings, as it is no way any sort of improvement over Sense 3.0. The underlining framework may indeed deserve the increase, but the appearance sure as hell doesn't. It should have been called Sense 3.0 lite for women.
If you don't like it don't use it
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interesting viewpoint
sense 3.5 is awesome looking man ... the two buttons is smart its way better than 3.0s bar across the bottom eating up useless space for no good reason other than to look like your typical trash smartphone ... its more unique and as for the 4 bars on the left side ... thats a widget remove it easy enough on that one ... like he said if you dont like it dont use it ... but overall it is much smoother running ... and there are no good roms for the evo 3d ... they all apear as stock or stripped down to nothing neat at all ... Joelz rom for the bliss 3.5 port will be the **** because for once that developer is at least trying something unique instead of focusing on what every other developer is doing ... basically themed 2.3.4 roms
freeza
in no way am i pointing fingers at the frevo rom but in my personal opinion i dont like it its stripped to nothingness ... it just makes it look like a samsung bas model phone ... now some people in fact alot of people love that so in no way am i judging because you have made alot of people happy with your hard work ... serious props for that ... but some people like change and some people like sense ... you seem to prefer removing all the spiffy **** in return for performance and thats understandable .. but it does show your taste in roms differs greatly and your opinion because a bit null and void in this topic because sense flat out isnt your cup of tea at all ... i do have friends who absolutly love your rom so i commend you for all the users you have made very happy you are by far a great dev, but like i said not your cup of tea here
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why does it seem like all the rom attention still goes out to the evo 4g when its more than obsolete
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The 4g has always had tons of dev support. And it's far from obsolete, I may have traded up to a 3D, but the 4G is still a very capable phone.
I played with a sense 3.5 rom on my friend's thunderbolt, it's smoother and snapper than sense 3.0 on my 3D. Tough to say if it's worth the effort, but it would be nice to have the option. The reasons for not developing this do make sense tho.
I think its because developers are already in too deep with their current roms, which some are still far from done. & like most of the other comments posted, its not appealing. Its not that bad looking, but none the less not the best.
If there's someone that's not on one of the already popular sense roms, they are on AOSP. There's just no focus towards 3.5 right now because other things are in demand.
The OG Evo has it because they can focus on things that hasn't been done. I mean that phone is pushing on its second year in the game, what else do you expect?
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true and the og evo is still by far a bad ass phone ... main complaint being no one cares much about the evo 3d ... i mean really i have a developer model with stock 2.3.4 that hasnt been pushed by sprint yet ... im yet to see a rom that is better than my stock 2.3.4 every rom i try is a let down because some great feature just isnt there ... the stock 2.3.4 for the e3d is pretty nice and very stable ... i hope someone out there can correct me and point me to a good rom that isnt themed out to uber gayness i dont want some rom that makes my phone look like satan or an orange peel i mean really ...
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If you don't like it don't use it
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I'm not, there was a question in the OP, and I answered it. Did you expect no one to answer the question, and to have a bunch of Sense 3.5 loving people in here talking about it?
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sense 3.5 is awesome looking man ... the two buttons is smart its way better than 3.0s bar across the bottom eating up useless space for no good reason other than to look like your typical trash smartphone ... its more unique and as for the 4 bars on the left side ... thats a widget remove it easy enough on that one ... like he said if you dont like it dont use it ... but overall it is much smoother running ... and there are no good roms for the evo 3d ... they all apear as stock or stripped down to nothing neat at all ... Joelz rom for the bliss 3.5 port will be the **** because for once that developer is at least trying something unique instead of focusing on what every other developer is doing ... basically themed 2.3.4 roms
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Most of the devs had nothing to work with when the EVO 3D got root. That is why there are 'themed' 2.3.4 ROMs, and we still have nothing to work with that is as good as Sense. AOSP is the ONLY other alternative, which in turn birthed MIUI. Nobody would dare try and port a crappy TouchWhiz UI to the EVO 3D. What else is there?
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in no way am i pointing fingers at the frevo rom but in my personal opinion i dont like it its stripped to nothingness ... it just makes it look like a samsung bas model phone ... now some people in fact alot of people love that so in no way am i judging because you have made alot of people happy with your hard work ... serious props for that ... but some people like change and some people like sense ... you seem to prefer removing all the spiffy **** in return for performance and thats understandable .. but it does show your taste in roms differs greatly and your opinion because a bit null and void in this topic because sense flat out isnt your cup of tea at all ... i do have friends who absolutly love your rom so i commend you for all the users you have made very happy you are by far a great dev, but like i said not your cup of tea here
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It's okay, I'm not taking offense, and you're right--I do enjoy minimalism, but to a certain extent. You have to understand that in removing the Sense launcher and widgets, that's all that's really done. The Launcher (Rosie), while being a decent launcher for the average person, is VERY VERY limited in terms of customization. I assumed, and that was probably a bad idea considering how popular my/sense removed ROMs are in comparison to full Sense, that more people would feel the same. You can achieve almost identically what Sense has from a Senseless ROM with a bit of time and effort. LauncherPro easily outclasses HTC's Launcher in terms of customization, performance, and looks. You can easily skin just about any launcher to look like Sense if you really wanted to. The only thing HTC has going for its launcher is its widgets, which unfortunately aren't able to be used with other launchers. Other than that, I truly don't see the appeal so many people have with sticking to what HTC thinks you need to stick to with its Launcher. There are countless mods that try and improve upon it, but in the end it's still limited. So, that says to me that I'm the kind of person who enjoys as little constraints in customizing my phone as possible.
htc widgets
thats super lame that the htc widgets cant be used elsewhere because your right they are really nice
freeza
by the way ive never given your rom a chance ... sorry i probly should
temeyers said:
by the way ive never given your rom a chance ... sorry i probly should
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It's all good man, we like what we like. I didn't really expect too many to jump on it. I mainly created it for myself, but figured the community could maybe benefit from it.
Boot Manager allows me to try out pretty much any ROM now a days without having to do anything to mine, so I'm good to go when I need to see what other people have accomplished, which still do this day, isn't very much in comparison to mine. Good thing about these Sense ROMs is that anything you want from one can easily be put into another.
boot manager ?
heres a dumb one ... whats boot manager
temeyers said:
heres a dumb one ... whats boot manager
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Search for it in the market, it allows you to have (i think) up to 4 rom ready to boot.
dammmmn
damn thanks a ton i feel dumb this app is the bees knees item 9 !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269564
[DEV][WIP][ROM]Bliss 3.5 Port[Sept.20][2.3.4]
This thread is a continuation of the thread started by: eggydrums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433526
eggydrums said:
Hello there!! I wanted to make this poll to see what the fellow users here in the Amaze forums prefer, Sense or AOSP.
On one hand, we have the original, pure, vanilla android interface. Simple, nothing so complicated and still, yet to come the Amaze, "the pure Google experience". There is no rom that is FULLY stock, with the exception of BeastMOD and SenseLess which are almost de-sensed completely.
And on the other, we have the long running Sense, courtesy of HTC. With lots of eye candy, lots of widgets, and an obsession with weather, Sense is very diverse and customizable. One of the latest versions of it, 3.0, is included with the Amaze, and most of the custom roms for it are Sense.
Many people, love sense, others hate it and prefer AOSP over it. So, its simple, choose your preferred interface, and leave a comment of you want xD
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I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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My sentiments exactly
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hiazn said:
My sentiments exactly
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Very valid point,
here's my view
I happen to like HTC since i loved my nexus one, and I bought this phone mainly for it's camera, nothing else is like it on T-mobile right now. I neither hate fan nor like it there are parts of it I like and parts I don't. I bought the SGSII first and hated it, I hated the screen resolution and how big it was...this phone just felt good...Sometimes even if you don't like sense, there are no other options, every individual wants something different and not all cellphones deliver everything in one package. I was initially waiting for the galaxy nexus and just got tired of waiting. I hated the pentile screen when I looked at it in the store (even If I ordered over seas) NO dedicated camera button, this is what I really wanted. I also wanted a 720p screen like the rezound, If I could I would get the rezound, but it doesn't have dedicated camera buttons and I want that. it has the same exact camera as the amaze. a 720p screen on a 4.3 inch screen which gives better dpi than the retina display...But I have no choice, I'm not going to pay 180 monthly just to get that phone...right now I pay 60 bucks on a shared plan and get unlimited everything with 5 gigs of unthrotled data. I also like this about android and like things about the iphone, I can't have it all in one package.
I use locker widget, and adw launcher and I'm happy with it...I do not hate the sense launcher, or the lockscreen, I just prefer my own customization. I love what they've done with their camera app. I like their calendar application. I like their parts of their contact and dialer app and hate parts of it.
I talk too much!!!
Binary said:
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
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Peoples always wanted what they don't/can't have. Simple
I myself love to have a Sense Rom mainly due to its lock screen and weather widget and a few more stuff but also running ADW so I can switching back and forth every other week or so
Personally I think Sense based Rom give me more options. If tired of looking at Sense, switch to other launcher and apps or vice versa whereas ASOP based wouldn't let me have Sense stuff if I so desired
Just because a phone comes with Sense doesn't mean it's the main attraction of the device. Did people buy the Samsung Galaxy S2 for TouchWiz? I sure hope not. There are other features of a product that convince people to purchase it. Specs, look and feel, cost-efficiency, and availability all factor in and affect this. The Amaze happens to feel like a really premium product with high end specs to boast. It also happens to come with Sense.
I don't hate Sense, but I just find it to be too non-customizable and would always use a third party launcher like ADW Launcher or Go Launcher anyway, so Sense means little to me.
antiquezip said:
Peoples always wanted what they don't/can't have. Simple
I myself love to have a Sense Rom mainly due to its lock screen and weather widget and a few more stuff but also running ADW so I can switching back and forth every other week or so
Personally I think Sense based Rom give me more options. If tired of looking at Sense, switch to other launcher and apps or vice versa whereas ASOP based wouldn't let me have Sense stuff if I so desired
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ya me and you have the same kind of "sense" about this stuff, no pun inteded!!!!
seansk said:
ya me and you have the same kind of "sense" about this stuff, no pun inteded!!!!
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Then go ahead and have your vote
I sense garbage.
This is my second htc sense phone.
You like sense until you try something else for a while.. Then you can't stand it.
We all have our own opinions.. It's fine, but for me it's a nice eye candy developed system that I can not stand and can't wait for cm7, 9 or something else.
Also a reason why I have adw launcher.
Talking of CM I kinda missed it alot.
Many great features: crt built-in, toggle widgets on top of pull-down notification panel, brightness adjust by sliding the status bar ect ... And separate lock screen wallpaper
Too many customization Sense lack
I switched back to sense for the beats audio
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People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
First, thanks for fixing my thread. And second, I prefer sense, altough I can live with Aosp.
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People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
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I voted for Sense and I think that I have a bit of experience with AOSP.
eggydrums said:
First, thanks for fixing my thread. And second, I prefer sense, altough I can live with Aosp.
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No problem.
I like sense, I like AOSP, just depends on how I feel that day. With all the themes, Roms, tweaks and different launchers, we can pretty much do what we prefer on any given day. I still have a cliq lol running 2.3.4 gingerbread aosp, a HD2 running Sergios core cell rom, and my "NEW" Amaze stock, patiently waiting for new developement.
Sense has great eye-candy and great integrated apps which is my kind of thing. like the built in task manager, built in social media, built in music player. its all better than stock IMO. Stock gets boring to me for some reason
I personally have no problem with sense, it's just the size, I like using my system partition for apps, but I do like the facebook and tight music control integration!
Binary100100 said:
I deleted the last poll.
You know what I find is funny?
For devices like G1, MyTouch even Vibrant a bunch of people really want Sense.
Now that you have a device that has Sense out of the box nobody seems to want it.
Here's what I have to say about it: If you don't want it, don't buy it. I happen to be a large fan of the Sense UI. I don't care about how "bloated" it feels or anything like that.
I used to make themes for the devices that didn't have Sense to at least give it a "Sense" look and feel. People went out of their way to edit the Sense UI apps just to make them available for devices that don't come with it.
So now that we seem to have the perfect device to run Sense... you all want to get rid of it?
I don't get it. If you don't like Sense then why by a phone with it??? Someone please explain that to me.
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+1...... Sense is one of the biggest reasons I only buy HTC phones
will_69_67 said:
+1...... Sense is one of the biggest reasons I only buy HTC phones
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I wouldnt say the biggest reason for me, i love sense but i also love HTCs build quality and such
xologist said:
People who vote sense have not experienced a good AOSP rom, if at all.
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lol I had a HD2 for well over a year before getting my amaze I have flashed pretty much everything under the sun, and I still prefer sense based roms.