app2sd question - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Dear Gurus,
I am about to root my Eris.
But I not ready to install a new rom, - I am happy with 2.1 plus the 13 Mb patch.
All I want for the time being is OC, apps2sd and wireless tetherand maybe some other apps that require root access.
(1) Can I have apps2sd with my original (but rooted) 2.1 on it without flashing a new rom?
(2) As alternative, I can choose to delete apps that came with the phone (Amazon Mp3, tweeter, etc) to free up space.
What should I NOT delete? (I guess system files. Are they located at any specific directories?)
Thanks Peter

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Getting Stock to Custom

Hello Guys,
I am pretty much new to Android here (Used to be a Windows Mobile user), although I am starting to read and learn more about it. I felt so happy to be out of the Microsoft Mobile spell, it was horrible and the software just lives in the world of its own, it lags at almost anything and in short, it just cant work.
Alright, so I got my Hero 2 weeks back and I wanted to know a few things, which I hope you can help me with it.
- I have about 60 over applications on my SD card, and I wish to use the MoDaCo ROM, How am I able to backup the applications from the current stock rom and transfer them to SD Card or somewhere else?
( Will Market still recognise the apps I downloaded after I flashed my phone to MoDaCo? )
- One more question, everything when the MoDaCo rom releases a new version, lets say from 2.9 to 3.0, must I reflash and build everything from scratch again?
Thanks A Lot,
Jeremy
jeremy89632 said:
Hello Guys,
I am pretty much new to Android here (Used to be a Windows Mobile user), although I am starting to read and learn more about it. I felt so happy to be out of the Microsoft Mobile spell, it was horrible and the software just lives in the world of its own, it lags at almost anything and in short, it just cant work.
Alright, so I got my Hero 2 weeks back and I wanted to know a few things, which I hope you can help me with it.
- I have about 60 over applications on my SD card, and I wish to use the MoDaCo ROM, How am I able to backup the applications from the current stock rom and transfer them to SD Card or somewhere else?
( Will Market still recognise the apps I downloaded after I flashed my phone to MoDaCo? )
- One more question, everything when the MoDaCo rom releases a new version, lets say from 2.9 to 3.0, must I reflash and build everything from scratch again?
Thanks A Lot,
Jeremy
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hi,
well to answer your questions,
you can install all your applications directly on your sd card using app2sd.(it is incorporated in the modaco roms but bear in mind you have to correctly format ur sd card in ext3 partition for app2sd application to work . Once you've done that , you can flash anything and you'll not have any problem.
2)concerning paid applications, yes. market will automatically recognise applications you bought once you sign in your google account(they'll be recognised but you'll have to download it manually) but paid ones, nope.
3)when you upgrade from the same built( meaning from 2.8 to 3.0 modaco for example) , you dont have to wipe before flashing cause both roms use as base the official 2.73 rom. thus you wont lose any of your settings. However, when you upgrade from a modaco rom to community rom 1.6 , you should normally wipe.(builts are not the same here, one being cupcake and the other eclair)
deeren said:
hi,
well to answer your questions,
you can install all your applications directly on your sd card using app2sd.(it is incorporated in the modaco roms but bear in mind you have to correctly format ur sd card in ext3 partition for app2sd application to work . Once you've done that , you can flash anything and you'll not have any problem.
2)concerning paid applications, yes. market will automatically recognise applications you bought once you sign in your google account(they'll be recognised but you'll have to download it manually) but paid ones, nope.
3)when you upgrade from the same built( meaning from 2.8 to 3.0 modaco for example) , you dont have to wipe before flashing cause both roms use as base the official 2.73 rom. thus you wont lose any of your settings. However, when you upgrade from a modaco rom to community rom 1.6 , you should normally wipe.(builts are not the same here, one being cupcake and the other eclair)
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Thanks A lot for your response, and I have some questions again.
- Where could I find an app to format my SDCard to Ext3? Will my Windows PC still be able to read EXT3?
- You mentioned that market will recognise my downloaded applications after I root the phone right? So, I dont really get it - I have to download it manually? Meaning? ( All my apps are free, no paid )
- Its pleasing to hear that I don't have to wipe when I upgrade to 3.0.
- Oh and something which I missed out, I am supposed to flash a Radio at the same time right? Which one is the best to date? I heard that there was many versions. ( I'm using a GSM Hero)
Sorry for the inconvinience.
Cheers,
Jeremy

Rooting Hero

hello guys. i'm from Malaysia. i recently bought HTC Hero. currently have problem with downloading application for hero and malaysia dont have android market yet. is there any way i can download any application besides android market.
i got a few question also. what the purpose of rooting the hero. if im using it in malaysia. do i need to root. will it void my warranty. thanks.
Before you even think about rooting, first read this.
The only other way to get applications/games onto your Hero without the Marketplace is to manually open the apk installation file via using Linda File Manager. You don't need to root your phone for this.
If you made a backup of your Rom using nadroid, your original Rom should be safe and your phone is still under your warranty.
The only reason to root your phone is to be able to have access to hidden files, remove unnecessary programs, have useful ones already pre-installed, speed up the phone, etc.
If you have any other issues/questions regarding what I am talking about, read the link I provided you first. It should answer all your questions.
CGeyser said:
Before you even think about rooting, first read this.
The only other way to get applications/games onto your Hero without the Marketplace is to manually open the apk installation file via using Linda File Manager. You don't need to root your phone for this.
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Sorry, but that is not correct. There are other Market-style applications out there that he can use. e.g. SlideME, which probably came on the phone. If it didn't, you can download it directly from the website onto your phone, and install it from the browser though you need to enable Menu->Settings->Applications->Unknown Sources ticked beforehand.
The only reason to root your phone is to be able to have access to hidden files, remove unnecessary programs, have useful ones already pre-installed, speed up the phone, etc.
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Sorry, but this isn't correct either! A *very* good reason for rooting is to use "Market Enabler" so that he can install the Market application, and enable it for a different region that supports paid apps. Other good reasons include tethering by wifi, and apps2sd.
Regards,
Dave
ok. thanks guys. does it means if i root my Hero then i can access the Market even i malaysia?
Essentially yes, though you will need to install the Market app and use the Market Enabler application to "spoof" the Market into believing your carrier is in a supported region.
Regards,
Dave
But a "problem" with this would be the phone would "believe" that you are in say "Netherlands" when you are in fact in Malaysia.
You can "solve" this by disabling automatic time / date. Enter it manually.
ok. i read on how to run app from sd card. one of the step need to flash ROM to SD card. is it ok if i use different ROM than my current Hero ROM.
As long as it is a Hero ROM, for the Hero (e.g. MoDaCo 3.0) you should be fine. You do need to be a little careful though, because devs have ported Hero/SenseUI to other phones (e.g. G1/Magic etc).
If you make a Nandroid backup before you flash the new ROM, you can always roll back to your previous ROM.
Regards,
Dave

[Q] How to disable App2SD in custom rom that based on CM

Dear All,
I want to remove / completely disable APP2SD inside custom ROM that made base on CM7 or CM6.
this is CM'APP2SD not regular app2sd. yes, its mean "CyanogenMod's apps2SD"
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Apps2SD
I have search the forum, including forum outside XDA, take me approx. 1 hours a day and almost 2 weeks and still can NOT find any clue or instruction to remove it.
If "maybe" I missed and somebody already asked and answered? my apologize.
I want to use Link2SD only, coz link2sd have more manageable option in the way to move apps to sdcard.
So i can decide which apps that still fully stay internal and apps several time used which i decide only app (not dalvik) put in sdcard and rarely used fully store in external/sdcard
App2SD can not do like this
So, Please Kindly help me
thanks n brgds
Try to delete it via Root Explorer.
Well u can still leave it on your phone.Just assign all aplications to be installed on your internal storage.

[Q] Motorola XT530 (2.3.5) Rooting querries

I am a Noob, so bear with me.
I went through many threads regarding XT530. links are
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218506&page=2
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271114
the first thread is said to be root XT530 (2.3.5 based) but the title goes for XT316(2.3.4). So i am a bit worried if thats alright or i got wrongly redirected over there. Moreover, the links for the files weren't working, so i need links for the files needed (like Google GMS pack).
the second thread says it will root the current android version, but i need to ask if that would install Google GMS services automatically or i need to download that pack externally.
PLus i need a few basic questions if anyone bother to answer:
1. I got just 19mb to 25mb as my internal memory constantly. i mean, i dont think i would get more than 35mb of internal memory even if i remove all apps installed. is it normal?
2. would i be able to shift apps to SD card after rooting?
3. can i overclock my phone? and if yes, what is the maximum limit?
No ine bothers to put down a single dmn answer? :\
Sent from my XT530 using XDA App
clotveins said:
I am a Noob, so bear with me.
I went through many threads regarding XT530. links are
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218506&page=2
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271114
the first thread is said to be root XT530 (2.3.5 based) but the title goes for XT316(2.3.4). So i am a bit worried if thats alright or i got wrongly redirected over there. Moreover, the links for the files weren't working, so i need links for the files needed (like Google GMS pack).
the second thread says it will root the current android version, but i need to ask if that would install Google GMS services automatically or i need to download that pack externally.
PLus i need a few basic questions if anyone bother to answer:
1. I got just 19mb to 25mb as my internal memory constantly. i mean, i dont think i would get more than 35mb of internal memory even if i remove all apps installed. is it normal?
2. would i be able to shift apps to SD card after rooting?
3. can i overclock my phone? and if yes, what is the maximum limit?
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Hello,
I know for a fact that both uper mentioned links worked fine, but i rooted my XT530 phone using the second one.
1. It is normal 19 to 25 MB of memory if u have installed a few apps, that is becouse you have preinstalled lot of useless junk which you cannot uninstall even if you have rooted your phone. I'm hoping that cianogenmod (or some other custom rom) will soon be available for XT530, so we would be able to uninstall things we don't need.
2. You can shift apps to SD even without rooting your phone, but the trick is that most preinstalled apps cannot be shifted or uninstalled.
3. After rooting I wasn't able to overclock my phone, and I tried every cpu-tuning app available on the matrket. Again we will have to wait for some custom rom.
Hope this helps a bit.
first thanks a lot for replying.
Can you give me a good reason to root my phone if i cant do anything in the casE?

Novice Help with Rooting, Directory Bind? - Please don't flame me!!

Hi. I've only rooted one phone successfully before, the Nexus One and have had no need to root the Galaxy Nexus. I have pre-ordered the Nexus 7 & doubt I'd need to root that either. I like stock Android with no bloatware.
I've purchased an Archos G9 101 Turbo which only has 8gb flash. I didn't want the pricier and way heavier 250gb SSD model. However, 8gb is very little when I want to mainly use it to store video data and digital comics which take up a lot of room. I put in a 32gb micro sd to expand my storage but realistically all that will allow me to do in Android 4.0+ is store pictures, music, etc there which I won't do with this tablet.
What I need is to be able to store app data to it like you could in prior versions of Android. Since the new software works much like iOS in that everything shares the remaining memory that the OS doesn't take up, I can understand why they are starting to not put micro sd slots in. But if they aren't going to, more flash needs to be added.
So ... I understand that there are tools such as Directory Bind that I've seen links on here discussing it for other devices that users want the same thing I want it for --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
I also recognize that in order to accomplish this, I need root permission. I don't have need for a custom rom as the archos is fairly close to stock but I would like to remove some bloatware and utilize an app like directory bind to re-direct my apps to store their data on the micro sd I installed. Digital comic books take up a lot of room but if I could make the app store the data on the micro sd, this would alleviate my problem.
Having explained the above, can someone please kindly assist me with a thread or tell me directly the following;
1) How to root the gen 9 101.
2) If I root, do I HAVE to have a custom recovery and ROM?
3) Once I root, is Directory Bind the best solution for moving app data to the micro sd and if not, what is?
I'd really appreciate guidance on this as I don't want to brick the Archos 101 G9. It wasn't a terribly expensive & high quality device but since they bumped it to 1gb ram, it runs pretty smooth for what I need ... to bad they didn't include more RAM!! Regardless, I'm willing to root this one & use it as my play device.
Thanks in advance for any help. I did search thru the forums before posting but there was o much information I wasn't sure which avenue to take.
myke115 said:
Hi. I've only rooted one phone successfully before, the Nexus One and have had no need to root the Galaxy Nexus. I have pre-ordered the Nexus 7 & doubt I'd need to root that either. I like stock Android with no bloatware.
I've purchased an Archos G9 101 Turbo which only has 8gb flash. I didn't want the pricier and way heavier 250gb SSD model. However, 8gb is very little when I want to mainly use it to store video data and digital comics which take up a lot of room. I put in a 32gb micro sd to expand my storage but realistically all that will allow me to do in Android 4.0+ is store pictures, music, etc there which I won't do with this tablet.
What I need is to be able to store app data to it like you could in prior versions of Android. Since the new software works much like iOS in that everything shares the remaining memory that the OS doesn't take up, I can understand why they are starting to not put micro sd slots in. But if they aren't going to, more flash needs to be added.
So ... I understand that there are tools such as Directory Bind that I've seen links on here discussing it for other devices that users want the same thing I want it for --
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
I also recognize that in order to accomplish this, I need root permission. I don't have need for a custom rom as the archos is fairly close to stock but I would like to remove some bloatware and utilize an app like directory bind to re-direct my apps to store their data on the micro sd I installed. Digital comic books take up a lot of room but if I could make the app store the data on the micro sd, this would alleviate my problem.
Having explained the above, can someone please kindly assist me with a thread or tell me directly the following;
1) How to root the gen 9 101.
2) If I root, do I HAVE to have a custom recovery and ROM?
3) Once I root, is Directory Bind the best solution for moving app data to the micro sd and if not, what is?
I'd really appreciate guidance on this as I don't want to brick the Archos 101 G9. It wasn't a terribly expensive & high quality device but since they bumped it to 1gb ram, it runs pretty smooth for what I need ... to bad they didn't include more RAM!! Regardless, I'm willing to root this one & use it as my play device.
Thanks in advance for any help. I did search thru the forums before posting but there was o much information I wasn't sure which avenue to take.
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Hi!
...because Archos is not a classical device ....you need to perform few steps !!!
1. You need to install ( enable) SDE menu ! please go here & press Thanks to Shano56 , for enable SDE , how prepar your device for root & ...
2. You can download & install the last Archos firmware 4.0.7 (4.0.3) - Root version ( is the same version with official Archos but with root access !) here !
3. You can not move app on micoSD ...for this you need to perform some aditional steps !
3. After you have installed SDE, you can install Custom Rom !!!
( I will upload soon the Root version ~ 1hour !) :good:
Good luck !
surdu_petru said:
Hi!
...because Archos is not a classical device ....you need to perform few steps !!!
1. You need to install ( enable) SDE menu ! please go here & press Thanks to Shano56 , for enable SDE , how prepar your device for root & ...
2. You can download & install the last Archos firmware 4.0.7 (4.0.3) - Root version ( is the same version with official Archos but with root access !) here !
3. You can not move app on micoSD ...for this you need to perform some aditional steps !
3. After you have installed SDE, you can install Custom Rom !!!
( I will upload soon the Root version ~ 1hour !) :good:
Good luck !
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Thanks for the help. I don't know if I'll get it right and definitely don't want to brick the tablet so I hope you don't mind if I might have another question as I go along.
BTW ... I do not want to put my apps on the micro sd, just the app data only. The apps themselves hardly take up any room but if you read alot of books from different apps (Nook, Kindle, Kobo, Play) and read a lot of digital comics via an app like Comixology, the data they store will eat up what little memory is available of the G9 101 with it only having 8gb. That's why it's so important to find a way to do that and the Directory Bind app looks like it might solve that issue. Comixology especially creates a lot of data with the downloaded comics. I just don't want to constantly have to delete comics or books from any of my apps just to make room for more. IF I can get the G9 working where the apps recognize their data stored on the 32gb micro sd card I installed, then I'll have plenty of room for what I need and can download more books and comic books than I could read in a year. The "cloud" is fine for some things but I don't want to trust it with my entire reading library.
I will follow the steps you outlined from the links noted and let you know my progress.
-- Will I need a custom ROM or can I just use the rooted Archos ROM you referred to and if so, will it still get OTA updates which Archos is frankly way better with than the likes of Motorola??
-- Have you personally had any success with the DirectoryBind app that forces an app to relocate data to the microsd? I see mixed results from several threads and from a web article. Here's a few:
http://www.jayceooi.com/2012/06/25/how-to-move-applications-games-data-to-external-sd-card/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536568
One other quick question: what are the advantages of using a custom ROM for the Archos G9 101?

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