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I found this app and it runs very very well in our Atom WM6...
Together with FTouchFlo this app is light to install and very easy to configure
it is not freeware but you can search for the demo
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that is a very nice application, i tried it and change the skin too. now have registered program courtesy of ipmart forum ;-)
It is a very nice app, easy to use and together with FTouchFlo its awesome!
Credit to efrost for this GREAT appz
Overview
FTouchFlo is the program which gives you possibility to control with your Windows Mobile PDA without using stylus but with your finger!
It allows scrolling contents of windows in most of applications (Outlook, File explorer, MS Word, Notes, Contacts etc.) where vertical or horizontal scroll bars are! Along with scrolling feature FTouchFlo provides launching functionality. You will be able to start up to 4 your favorite applications just sliding your finger on the touch screen in one of four directions.
Instructions:
1. Scrolling and standard windows behavior: To scroll contents of a window with vertical or horizontal scroll bar you have to touch your screen and immediately start scrolling by moving your finger. You have just a few milliseconds (Delay) between the moment you’ve touched the screen and started scrolling. If you’ll not start scrolling immediately, your PDA will be working as usual (standard windows behavior function): you’ll be able to select text or use tap-n-hold function to invoke context menu.
2. Zones: There are 2 zones of touch screen controlled by FTouchFlo:
Zone “1” is always used for scrolling or “standard windows behavior” functions. Zone 2 might be also used for launching up to 4 your favorite applications.
Note: Scrolling and “Standard windows behavior” functions are also available in the Zone 2.
3. Launching: To launch one of four predefined applications you can use four different gestures: Down->Up, Up->Down, Left->Right, Right->Left.
Note: You should always start gestures for launching applications from the Zone 2!
Note: You should start moving your finger almost immediately (GestureWaitingDelay) after you’ve touched the screen!
• Down-Up gesture should be started from the bottom of the screen and you should move your finger to the 1/3 of screen in the direction to the top of screen: • Up->Down gesture should be started from the top of screen and you should move your finger to the 1/3 of screen in the direction to the bottom of screen;
• Left->Right gesture should be started from the left of screen and you should move your finger to the 1/3 of screen in the direction to the right of screen;
• Right->Left gesture should be started from the right of screen and you should move your finger to the 1/3 of screen in the direction to the left of screen.
4. Excluded applications. This feature allows you to restrict FTouchFlo control gestures when some application is running. It is useful in case if the application natively supports scrolling with finger function or gestures.
5. Disabled when SIP is active. FTouchFlo will be automatically disabled when you have SIP (Software Input Panel) active, so you can use Block Recognizer, Letter Recognizer and other SIPs without taking into account that FTouchFlo is running.
Limitations
1. Transcriber is not supported.
2. Scrolling doesn’t works in MSExcel, Resco Photo Viewer and some other applications with unusual approach how to use scrollbars.
3. Windows internal calibration application will not be working while FTouchFlo is running.
Licensing, using, copyrights etc.
1. You can use FTouchFlo for non-commercial purposes free of charge.
2. You can include FTouchFlo in your ROMs with notice about FTouchFLo copyright.
3. You can distribute FTouchFlo together with your application with notice about FTouchFlo copyright.
4. All rights to FTouchFlo belong to FTouchFlo developers.
5. You can use FTouchFlo on your own risk.
6. FTouchFlo developers are not responsible for any problems caused by using FTouchFlo.
Troubleshooting
If the touch screen is not responding, it might be caused by FTouchFlo. Just softreset the device.
Changes in 1.4.1:
1.Exclude debug feature from "Excluded programs"
Changes in 1.4:
1. Fixed a few bugs causing not stable behavior (freezing, white-screen or so.).
2. Fixed LeftRightAppCmdLine parameter parsing.
3. Fixed "Excluded programs" list.
4. Display orientation now checked for each point. Hope issues with "incorrect calibration" in landscape mode on some devices will be solved.
5. Whole application optimization.
6. Added scrolling in "Agenda One" windows. Changed scrollable window searching algorithm.
7. Added possibility to turn off scrolling function. New parameter "DisableScroll" with possible values: 0 - scrolling enabled and 1 - scrolling disabled. For example, to disable scrolling in all windows put DisableScroll:1 to the configuration file.
Guys you can also use the minimize.exe with • Up->Down gesture to minimize any program easily~!!
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minimize app here ---> http://www.mediafire.com/?3mzxozxxxwi
Im using both of them Touch Commander and FTouchFlo
Both working great especially FTouchFlo!!
For Touch Commander, beside being RAM hungry, it has a bug.
I encountered error after tryin to change the link in the cube that originally launch the camera/wm player/video. The TC failed to start and had to be reinstall
ckaidi said:
Im using both of them Touch Commander and FTouchFlo
Both working great especially FTouchFlo!!
For Touch Commander, beside being RAM hungry, it has a bug.
I encountered error after tryin to change the link in the cube that originally launch the camera/wm player/video. The TC failed to start and had to be reinstall
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I do feel the TouchCommander is a little memory intensive
In-terms of changing that particular link camera/wm player/video I merely deleted the paramater -video so it just opens in camera mode, its ok for now.
okay, let me try it,. ;D
Incase anyone is wondering here's an example of my CmdLine.txt found in /ProgramFiles/FtouchFlo
DownUpApp:/Program Files/TouchCommander/TouchCommander.exe
DownUpAppCmdLine:
; Exclude applications
Exclude:TouchCommander.exe
Touch Commander keeps crashing!
I installed Touch Commander on my WM6 ATOM AKU 070 and it seemed to work fine at the beginning. But once I started using it and started adding Contacts and Applications into it, it started giving problems and then it finally crashed and died on me
Anyone with a similar experience?
I have been using TouchCommander for a week now without issues, Im sorry to hear ppl are having trouble, consider the possibility of conflicting software and perhaps trial and error.
iiiyuppp,.
Nice apps one, i am using registered version of this commander from other forum,. anddd, this is good,. ;D
but lately i am thinking that there will be nice if the cube rotation can be changed,. hehe,.
Garmin said:
iiiyuppp,.
Nice apps one, i am using registered version of this commander from other forum,. anddd, this is good,. ;D
but lately i am thinking that there will be nice if the cube rotation can be changed,. hehe,.
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Changed in what way?
maybe hes toking abt the rotation effect ;p
I actually stop using this le due to the bugs when changing the launching appz links. Hope to see a new version soon thro
ckaidi said:
maybe hes toking abt the rotation effect ;p
I actually stop using this le due to the bugs when changing the launching appz links. Hope to see a new version soon thro
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thats right bro,.
i'm talking about the rotation effect,. ;D
Hmmmm.. yep it is a little buggy and caused my wifi to stay on after SR.
It installed ok for me but when i try launching the camera and error occurs with a unknown mode code 65600420 and for video 2080838464.
Anyone can help me
Its very easy to configure, tap and hold/edit for camera I just delete what ever is in params.
NICE APPS~~~ Thanks~~~
homer285 said:
Its very easy to configure, tap and hold/edit for camera I just delete what ever is in params.
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Hello mates,
I have been using this nice app, for a week now and I like a lot. I have experienced some problems linking to some apps (MemMaid crushes all the time), but now I think I got it in a good shape. I have also changed the WMP/camera/video links with the following with no problems: Audio Manager/Photo Viewer/Core Player. As for the FTouchFlo, I'm having problems using the LeftToRight and RightToLeft gestures. Any way, it works fine for me and I have also made a copy of the Settings folder, so in case of a malfunction or crash (due to a new link or what ever else), I just copy/paste/replace it and it's good to go again.
TouchCommander make my camera stupid~ HELP ~!
I have some question.... after i install 'TouchCommander'...everything in my O2 atom life still work well...when i removed... my camera manual button (a small button beside the mobile) can't work...everytime u press, it appear an error window >> " The file 'TouchCommander' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file." wat should i do.... i tried reinstall but still the same problem... any PRO can help me... ?
@brent26
remap the button at start-setting-buttons
hopes it helps
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For VGA and QVGA we recommend that you install Giannis86 versions, since they contain all language layouts. New Giannis QVGA fixed cabs are now available, as well as official WVGA / WQVGA with small updates in layouts for: Greek, Spanish and Hebrew languages.
>>> HOT! Giannis86 VGA with arrows cab / all languages included and some extra features!
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>>> HOT! Giannis86 QVGA without arrows cab / all languages included and some extra features!
>>> Available for download: Giannis86 VGA without arrows cab / all languages included and some extra features! You can read more about Giannis86 VGA version in a dedicated thread.
>>> Available for download: WVGA & WQVGA (all languages)
>>> Available for download: VGA & QVGA - utak3r editions
(not all languages included)
Check out FingerKeyboard video demonstration:
Please note that the speed of typing in
this video is intentionally slightly slowed
down - this was done so that it is easier
to see what buttons are being typed
during the demonstration.
BEFORE INSTALLATION:
Before installing FingerKeyboard2, please make sure you find out what is the correct installation version for your device. You will see that we have attached several different versions - they're designed to work on specific device resolutions.
Do not download before you know exactly what you need for your specific device! Explanation of how to discover what resolution your device has is described in HELP AND FAQ document listed few posts below!
Speaking of which - READ the whole HELP AND FAQ text; it will help you understand how to configure and use this keyboard!
INSTALLATION:
- IF YOU HAVE OLDER VERSIONS OF FINGERKEYBOARD, PLEASE UNINSTALL THEM BEFORE INSTALLING V2.1! After removing old version, please restart the device and remove FingerKeyb folder before proceeding!
- Run the attached .cab file (recommend you install to device memory).
- The keyboard will install into /Program files/FingerKeyb. There is also a link to Configuration tool in the Start > Programs.
- After installation, a Configuration utility will open. Here you can customize the layouts, choose color schemes and configure various options of FingerKeyboard2.
- Click on OK and softreset the device.
- Open up your standard keyboard (in SMS for example), click on the small arrow next to the middle keyboard icon and go to "Other input options".
- FingerKeyb should be listed there, select it and you're good to go!
- If you wish to set FingerKeyb as default keyboard, even after restart of your device, use SIP change application. Remember to set the time-delay to 40-50 seconds!
HOW TO UNINSTALL?
Go into Settings > System > Remove programs. It is listed as "Exidler's FingerKeyboard".
CREDITS:
Created and programmed by Exidler
Designed by Rozenthal
Main tester ChrisCross
Big thanks to people who helped us in creating this application (in no special order): Berkut_G, utak3r, GoldCoin, Cerato, Schreda, Panosha, JBouRas, SBS, BadCluster, Taiseer999, Borchert, Hanackin, Iligcons, Allbercik, Ombre.px, Nvidia32, derfler, ilovepunani, elite-fusion, RoozbehDream, Giannis86, parasite81, bugsykoosh, Reefhunter49, Chompy18 (if I forgot someone, please PM me!)
PROGRESS:
v2.1 - new and improved FKBD2 with unique features (5. april, 2009)
v2.0 - official release of updated FingerKeyboard
v1.4 to v2.0 beta - closed beta testing (link to 1.4 thread)
v1.4 - alternate language layout for landscape mode. New vertical num pad.
v1.3 - updated landscape graphics and layout, fixed bugs.
v1.2 - updated vertical layout, now supports limited landscape mode, new .dll and register files.
v1.1 - vertical support for 2 languages + numeric keypad, new graphics, new layout
v1.0 - exidler's original version
DISCLAIMER / LICENSE / EULA
Please read carefully the terms and conditions of this End User License Agreement ("EULA") before installing FingerKeyboard software ("Software").
This EULA provides a license agreement between authors of FinkerKeyboard ("Licensors") and you (person) ("Licensee") to use the Software and contains warranty information and liability disclaimers.
By installing and using the Software you accept and agree to the terms of this EULA. If you do not agree with these terms and conditions, you must cancel the installation or, if the Software is already installed on your device, promptly uninstall it.
OWNERSHIP
The Licensee acknowledges and agrees that the Software is a product of the Licencors. It is protected under international copyright law. All copyrights are exclusively owned by Exidler and Rozenthal.
LICENSE GRANT
The Software is freeware. However, the Licensee may use it only and exclusively for private personal and non-commercial usage, and only under conditions which do not contradict the restrictions noted below. If you want to use Software for anything else, you must contact the Licencors. Software may not be bundled or distributed with any other package without written permission of the Licensors.
NO WARRANTIES
The Software is distributed "as is" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND. The Licensee uses the Software at his own risk. The Licencors shall not be liable to the Licensee for any kind of consequences, which occur or not occur while installing, using or uninstalling the Software.
RESTRICTIONS
In accepting the EULA granted by Licensor, Licensee agrees that he shall not
1. Sublicense, sell, lease, rent, permit use of, give, or lend the Software
or any copy or portion thereof;
2. Decompile, disassemble, reverse engineer, analyze, or otherwise attempt to
discover the source code of the Software;
3. Use or incorporate the Software or any portion thereof in any other product
without the prior written permission of the Licensor;
4. Remove, alter, or obscure the copyright, trademark, proprietary, or other
notices from the Software or any of its components.
Licensee is allowed to edit existing or create new language layouts, and share them with other users. Licensee is allowed to edit existing or create new graphic elements, but only with respect to copyright and trademark notices.
DISTRIBUTION
The Licensee may NOT redistribute the Software by any mean (CD, DVD, Web site...) without permission from Licencors.
TERMINATION
The Licensee may terminate the EULA at any time. Also, the EULA will terminate automatically if Licensee fails to comply with the restrictions described above. Upon termination of the EULA, the Licensee shall remove all copies of the Software from his (her, its) device and all storage media.
Here you can say "Thank you" to us
Help and faq
HELP / FAQ / TROUBLESHOOTING
Read this whole text before using the FingerKeyboard or asking for help! If your question is already answered in FAQ it will be ignored. Don't be lazy!
What version should I install on my XYZ device? / What is WVGA, WQVGA, VGA and QVGA?
To successfully install Fingerkeyboard on your device, you need to pick the correct version for your phone. For example, let's say you want to find out what resolution Samsung Omnia has. Type "Samsung Omnia review" into Google, and among the first few results usually you'll get the most popular review sites listed. Reviews always contain resolution information, so we easily find out that Samsung Omnia has a 400x240 pixels resolution. That means you should install FingerKeyboard WQVGA cab.
Here's the list of supported resolutions for FingerKeyboard, with their standard abbreviations:
WVGA - 800x480
WQVGA - 400x240
VGA - 640x480
QVGA - 320x240
Why does FingerKeyboard look differently on my device then on the screenshots?
There can be some small differences between the screenshots and what you see on your screen. The reason for this is that different layouts can have different features, graphic elements or button layouts. We consider English layout to be the "standard" layout, with best combination of button size and positions.
How can I type those special characters that appear above normal characters?
Press and hold a key.
How to switch to full CAPS?
Press and hold the shift button.
Spacebar
If you press and hold spacebar button it will write a dot followed by a space.
How to use text selection?
Switch to full CAPS mode and then use arrow buttons to select text.
How to use cut / copy / paste / undo?
Switch to full CAPS mode, select the text you want to cut or copy, and press and hold ^c or ^x characters. Then press and hold ^v to paste. On some layouts these are named "cut", "copy" and "pst". Same thing with "undo" option - you can use "undo" at any moment, and it will take you back for unlimited number of steps.
Where is that Config tool you mention?
After you install FingerKeyboard, go to Start > Programs > Finger Keyboard.
How can I switch to numeric keyboard?
Press 123 button. If your layout does not have dedicated 123 button, press Shift and 123 will appear on your Language toggle button. Behavior of Language toggle button can be customized in Configuration tool.
How can I change a color scheme of the keyboard?
Config tool > Main > Color scheme: select which ever you like and press OK or Apply.
How can I select language layouts?
Config tool > Main: you will see a list of all language layouts you have in your FingerKeyboard folder. Put a tick next to the layouts you want to use and press OK or Apply. We also advise you to physically delete layouts you don't want to use from oyur device (Program files / FingerKeyb / Skins). This will make Config tool start up a little bit faster and use less memory.
What are all those Backspace options in Config tool?
Behavior of Backspace key can be customized to suit your needs. You can separately control what will Backspace do on short click and long press, as well as how it will behave in small caps or caps lock mode.
How to minimize or turn off the keyboard?
Short press the keyboard toggle button (the one with small keyboard or switch sign on it). Long press on this button will turn off FingerKeyboard and switch to default HTC keyboard.
How to disable click sound?
Run FingerKeyboard Config tool. Under "Options" tab you will find a "Press sound" box. Here you can select from several different click sounds, all of which have "quiet" and "loud" versions. This is useful if you want a subtle click sound, but don't want to lower the volume for the whole System. There is also a "no sound option".
How can I get vibration feedback?
Config tool > Options tab > Press vibrate. Here you can select how long you want the vibration feedback to last. Minimum of 20ms will get you a barely noticeable vibration effect, while 80ms will be very strong.
Vibration feedback don't work on my device. Why is this?
If you're having problems with vibration feedback, it's most likely that our autodetect LED vibration feature don't work well on your device. However, you can play around with "VibrateLed 1" string in skin-01-global.txt (Program Files\FingerKeyb\Skins) and see if perhaps changing to another LED number will work for you.
How can I control the key-press delay? / What is "Hold time" / Can I make the keys repeat on press+hold?
"Hold time" option in Config tool is a cool option you can use to control how long it will be needed for a key to be continuously pressed before it writes a letter or performs an action. This part of the "Hold time" function is controlled with numbers in the first box. The second box controls how long will it take for a key to be continuously pressed before it starts repeating itself. So, if you put 500ms in the first box, and 200ms in the second box, that means you will have to press a key for 500ms before it performs it's "long press" action, and 200ms more before it starts repeating that function. If you hold the key even longer, it will then gradually accelerate.
Can I hide / show Windows menu bars?
Yes, go to Config tool and under "Options" tab select how you want the keyboard to display in Portrait and Landscape mode. We suggest selecting "Show bar" for portrait, and "Hide bar" for landscape.
I want the pop-up images to stay longer on screen. How can I do this?
In Config tool, Options tab, there is a "Popup time" box. Here you can select how long will the pop-up image stay on screen after a key has been pressed. If you set pop-up time to 1500ms, this means the pop-up image will stay on screen for 1.5 seconds, or until next key is pressed. Pop-up image delay affects ONLY the normal character keys (A,B,C,D etc). Special action keys, such as Shift, Space, Backspace etc. have default short time and will not stay on your screen. This is done to avoid action keys images covering large areas of the screen with their larger pop-up images.
What are Smiles / Shortcuts?
This is a feature that no other keyboard has. It allows you to control what any of the several predefined actions keys will do when you press and hold them. Almost all layouts have these special actions included (between 7 and 11 actions on most of the layouts). You can control what will show up on a key when you open the keyboard, as well as what that key will write when you press+hold it. For example, you can type into "Key text" box "info" and into "Action text" you could type "John Smith, gsm:00123456789, e-mail: [email protected]". Or maybe your favorite web address. Or your signature. Or your wife's name. Or your lover's name for all we care The possibilities are endless! You can do the same thing for smiles - if you don't like the default ones, use your own, or something else!
A special key I need is missing / Can I customize smiles / Can I change shortcuts?
If there's a key missing in your language layout, you can easily add it yourself by using either Smiles or Shortcuts tab in Config tool. Simply type the missing key into two of the horizontal boxes and the key will appear when you long press a button that has that Smiles / Shortcut action.
Why does XYZ language layout have only a few smiles / shortcuts buttons?
Some language layouts have very high demands regarding the number of characters they need to occupy. Because of this there are a few language layouts that may have a smaller number of smiles / shortcuts spaces reserved. We have tried to include as many as possible, believe us!
How can I make FingerKeyboard a default keyboard? / How can I keep FingerKeyboard as default keyboard even after reset?
You can use a small program called SIP Change. Look it up on XDA-developers.com forum, and remember to set delay to 40-50 seconds.
"Where is XYZ language layout? Why is it not included!?"
If you want a certain language layout, first check FingerKeyboard2.1 thread on XDA-developers.com forum if someone maybe already made an additional layout and posted it there. If not, the best thing you can do is to make your own layout and share it with other people. If your layout is good, we'll probably include it in next version. Please do not spam us with "I WANT THIS LANGUAGE!!!" messages. All language layouts depend exclusively on the community to produce them. If no one can't be bothered to make your language layout, we can't really help you.
Editing instructions:
You can use the existing layouts to make it custom layouts! The easiest way is to open one of the layout skin txt files and replace the existing characters with your own. Experiment a bit, and you will soon get the hang of it. Same applies if you want to make your own skin - edit the included bitmaps, and change the appropriate lines in txt files. Everything you want to know about FingerKeyboard actions, layouts, colors and resolutions is explained in "doc-about-skin.txt" that is located in the root of the FingerKeyb folder. Read it first before asking for help!
XT9 and Word suggestion
XT9 & TEXT SUGGESTION:
This keyboard does not support T9. However, there is an option to enable standard Windows Mobile word suggestion, as well as SMS contact name suggestion. There are two ways to do this.
First way is to use the FingerKeyboard Config tool and select what you want to use (Word / SMS suggestion, or both). SMS suggestions will work normally, but for WinMo word suggestion to function, you will need to switch to HTC default keyboard and manually turn on XT9 on the little T9 switch. After that, you can reload FingerKeyboard and everything will work normally. This can be a good way for people who like to use T9 on other keyboards, but also want to use FingerKeyboard without T9. This approach also makes it possible to use new HTC style suggestion windows (the ones with small arrows on each side, where you can flip between names / words).
To avoid messing around with XT9 switch on HTC keyboard you can simply globally disable XT9 across the whole system. That means that T9 will not work even on system keyboards that have T9 support, but SMS / Word suggestions will both work. This will disable the HTC style suggestion windows, and use the default WinMo style (opens a simple white window with list of suggested words or names). The patch file which disables XT9 globally is attached in this post. This patch can be uninstalled. If you already have it installed, you do not have to remove it or reinstall it. Also, please note that when you install this patch, you will not be able to select SMS /Word options in FingerKeyb config tool - they will always be grayed out.
It might be best to install the FingerKeyb cab and test it first. You can always globally disable XT9 later on if you decide so.
There is a known bug with Word suggestion, that has been almost fully fixed in this version of FingerKeyboard. The bug manifests itself like this:
- if you have "Text word suggestion" turned on, and you type an SMS message, the "home" and "end" buttons will not work while the word suggestion window is open on the screen. If you select a word, those keys will work normally. Unfortunately, this isn't our fault - it's actually a bug in Word suggestion app.
Bug tracker
BUG TRACKER for v2.1
This space is reserved for bug tracking.
Even though the latest version of FingerKeyboard2 has been tested on multiple devices with different ROM-s for more then 20 days, it's very likely that we missed some bugs.
When reporting bugs, please try to be as detailed as possible. The more information you supply, the easier it will be to find the bug and squash it. And we like squashing bugs! Some bugs with previous versions of FingerKeyboard were caused by 3rd party software. The usual suspects are other 3rd party keyboards.
DEBUG LOGGER! PLEASE USE IT IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS!
Attached below, you will find Fingerkeyb_debug.dll file. This file will create a debug log which you can then send to us, so we can detect problems and try to fix them in the next release. It is mostly aimed at solving the problem that some people have with landscape mode, but it can be used to track any other problems as well. Debug logger is not that painless to use, but if you really want our help, this is the best way for us to detect what the problem is.
To start using this, you will need Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE.
Go into FingerKeyb folder (Program Files).
1. rename Fingerkeyb.dll to something else (example: Fingerkeyb_.dll)
2. Copy FingerKeybd_debug.dll to Program Files/FingerKeyb directory.
3. Rename FingerKeyb_debug.dll to FingerKeyb.dll
4. Softreset the phone
5. Open the FingerKeyboard, press 1-10 random keys on keyboard.
6. Minimize the keyboard, rotate the phone and open the keyboard again, after the phone is in landscape mode. Try to press 1-10 random keys again.
7. If you encounter the landscape bug, switch to HTC keyboard, making sure that it shows in landscape correctly.
8. Copy the FingerKeyb.log in working directory to a different folder on your device or PC and after that select FingerKeyboard again.
9. You will now have 2 log files. Rename them so they don't have the same file name and send them to Rozenthal or Exidler.
If you do not have Resco File Explorer or Total Commander CE, you can try this procedure:
0. Unregister keyboard using the old Fingerkeyb_register.exe (found in v1.4 thread) and then softreset
1. same as above
2. same as above
3. same as above
4. Register keyboard with the Fingerkeyb_register.exe
5. same as above
6. same as above
7. same as above
8. same as above
9. same as above
The logging tool will seem very slow, that's normal - it needs to write a bunch of info on every keypress, so take it easy. After you're done, you can simply reverse the procedure: remove the debug.dll, rename back the original Fingerkeyb.dll, and continue using the keyboard normally.
The log files can be sent to us via private messages here on XDA. Also, please do not expect to instantly receive a magical solution for your problem. If a simple solution exists, we will message you on how to apply it. If it's an issue that requires changing FingerKeyboard core files, it's more likely that the issue will be fixed in future versions of the software.
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>>> B U G L I S T <<<
[06. april, 2009]
- Some color schemes in WQVGA have problems (FIXED)
- Some layouts in WQVGA version are causing problems / stuck in numerical keypad (FIXED)
- Samsung Omnia problems with Contact name suggestion (FIXED by installing T9 disable patch)
- Contact name SMS suggestion not working for some people on Touch HD with Dutty 2.6 ROM (FIXED by installing T9 disable patch)
[07. april, 2009]
- Switching from landscape back to portrait can sometimes result in a few pixels big square in top left corner of the device screen. This square looks like a piece of keyboard and can be pressed. The square goes away if you run Config tool or reload keyboard. (unresolved)
Using FKBD2.1 in ROMs
If you are a ROM cooker and wish to use FingerKeyboard2 bundled in your ROM, please notify us first. All ROM-usage requests will be granted, but we wish to know where the keyboard is being used. ROM chefs may find the following info useful:
Registering keyboard in system.
- register dll as com object
or
- add to registry this values:
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[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{C03755DF-3EE7-41DF-AE5E-3FBBCA603F1A}]
@="FingerKeyb"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{C03755DF-3EE7-41DF-AE5E-3FBBCA603F1A}\DefaultIcon]
@="\\Program Files\\FingerKeyb\\FingerKeyb.dll,0"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{C03755DF-3EE7-41DF-AE5E-3FBBCA603F1A}\IsSIPInputMethod]
@="1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{C03755DF-3EE7-41DF-AE5E-3FBBCA603F1A}\InprocServer32]
@="\\Program Files\\FingerKeyb\\FingerKeyb.dll"
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Path to .dll can be different.
In registry is saved only which skin files need to load and
which layout was last for each process.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\FingerKeyb]
list of exe names and which layout must be restored for this process.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\FingerKeyb\SkinFiles]
list of skin files names in _lowercase_
skin-00-scheme-blackblue.txt = DWORD:0 -this means "don't load this skin file"
skin-00-scheme-blackred.txt = DWORD:1 -this means "load this skin file"
Skin files that do not exists in this key will be loaded by keyboard automatically.
Skins directory is relative to place of keyboard DLL.
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All other settings are saved in skin files (mostly in skin-01-global.txt)
Exception is HTC T9 settings:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9]
IsSupportMSSIPContact = DWORD:1 - sms name suggestion
XT9SupportMSSip = DWORD:1 - word
But this settings is applied only if:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409]
"Ime File" = "et9ime.dll"
Media kit
Media kit for media / press / bloggers
If you are a representative of the media, and wish to cover FingerKeyboard2 in your magazine, portal or blog, below you will find a ZIP-ed media kit.
Inside it is a short text about FingerKeyboard v2.1, several full size screenshots, high-quality FingerKeyboard logo as well as some other graphics that can be used in publications of any kind.
If you have any additional questions, you will find the needed contacts within the info-text.
We would also kindly ask you to inform us when you publish your cover on FingerKeyboard.
Very nice, is there a skins thread/section yet though? O_O
Hi, thanks.
I dunno if it's because everyone likes the default color schemes (there is a lot of them included), but very few people actually played with graphics for FKBD so far.
And those that did were mostly making small changes here and there, no big overhauls.
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http://www.imagesforme.com/skin/default/sys_icons/HotLink.gif
downloading now to test this out! Thanks!
very very nice!!!!!!
One question only, where are the settings stored so we can edit them (language selected, vibration enabled, sond type etc) and cook it into our ROM's
Need The ARABIC Language For QVGA
Any One Can Make it
i have already asked the authors in the main thread, Sorry Guys For double posts, but i need it
GREAT KEYBOARD, You have done the Best!!!
jtreminio said:
Your thumbs are appearing as blocked images...
http://www.imagesforme.com/skin/default/sys_icons/HotLink.gif
downloading now to test this out! Thanks!
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You sure? Works perfectly fine for me :/
dody said:
Need The ARABIC Language For QVGA
Any One Can Make it
i have already asked the authors in the main thread, Sorry Guys For double posts, but i need it
GREAT KEYBOARD, You have done the Best!!!
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It is available for VGA Giannis edition, but not for the utak3r QVGA.
However, we will make a QVGA version that will be just the same as WVGA / VGA with all language layouts included. Hang on for a day or so, and it will be posted!
p.s. Thank you!
Warmax88 said:
very very nice!!!!!!
One question only, where are the settings stored so we can edit them (language selected, vibration enabled, sond type etc) and cook it into our ROM's
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Check Program Files\FingerKeyb\Skins - everything is in simple TXT files.
If you want to cook this into your ROM, we would kindly request that you first contact us and tell us what are you working on.
We will grant all requests for ROM inclusion, we just want to know where and how is the keyboard being used.
Whoa, i didn't notice that you have a thread in dev&hacking - i was about to suggest creating it instead of staying hidden in the blackstone section
Maybe it would be a good idea to lock the old one to keep the discussion in one place?
I am having trouble with the Giannis86 VGA cab. It wont install on my touch pro. I get an unsuccessful installation message.
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it is available for vga giannis edition, but not for the utak3r qvga.
However, we will make a qvga version that will be just the same as wvga / vga with all language layouts included. Hang on for a day or so, and it will be posted!
P.s. Thank you!
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thanks alot!!!!!!!!!!!
Waiting......
Thank you for this very customizable and user-friendly sip
Great work guys! This app has just hit Maturity 2.0 . It had some things needed to be fixed, but I had not expected this. Thanks
im confused.. this keyboard isnt correcting what i type
have i done somtn wrong? i evn checkd both boxes in htcxt9 options in fingerkeyboard settings
using qvga
any help would be much apprecaited
htctoucher
Move over T9, here comes Swype
Swype works with an on-screen QWERTY keyboard like you have on the tablet version of Windows and on the iPhone. But instead of tapping letters out, you press your finger or stylus on the first letter, then, without lifting it, move it to the remaining letters in the word. When the word is done, then you lift.
It works. Even on tiny small screens, it is intuitive and fast, and you don't even have to run the tutorial. Basically, it's an amazing new input method.
A built-in 65,000-word dictionary corrects obvious and even creative spelling errors. A word menu pops up if the correction is somewhat ambiguous; in our tests, the top choice was usually correct, and it can be selected with a simple swipe upward.
Little tricks make it possible to capitalize words (jerk the stylus up and down) or select double letters (wiggle the pen over a letter).
You can type 55 words per minute on his product. Discount the developer's advantage: Real human beings should be able to motor along at about half that, we estimate. *From Cnet
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Main features are...
Simply Trace a Path
The word “quick” was generated from tracing the path shown above in a fraction of a second, by roughly aiming to pass through the letters of the word. A key advantage to Swype is that there is no need to be very accurate, enabling very rapid text entry.
Fast!
You can go fast and be sloppy. There’s no need to try to accurately hit each key. Just make a reasonable effort to trace through the word and Swype will do the rest.
Easy to Learn
The keyboard layout is QWERTY, so there is virtually no learning curve if you’ve already learned to type on a regular keyboard.
Natural Feeling
The smooth motion of sliding from letter to letter feels very natural, not to mention fast.
Finger-Tip Operation
Swype can be used equally well with either a stylus or your fingertip. You don’t have to be precise; so even if you have a large finger that partially obscures the keys, Swype still works!
Auto-Spacing
You can go even faster since Swype automatically enters spaces for you. (Spaces are prepended in front of each word entered by Swype).
Auto Spelling Correction
Not only can you go fast and be sloppy, in most typical cases, Swype will even correct misspelled words. For example, trace out “freind”, and Swype will automatically generate “friend”.
Capitalization Shortcut
Save time by capitalizing any letter in a word with a simple gesture: just slide from the letter to off the top of the keyboard and then continue entering the rest of the word.
65,000-word Learning Dictionary
Chances are the word you are typing is already in the Swype dictionary. But if it isn’t, just tap it out once followed by a space, and Swype will automatically learn it for next time.
Statistical Tracking
Keep track of your speed using Swype’s built-in statistical tracking.
Accented Characters
Words with accented characters (“diacritics”) require no special action - just Swype the word and the correct spelling will be entered. New words with accented characters can by typed by tapping and holding on the letter to see all possible variations.
Over 50 Symbols
Most common symbols are on the main keyboard layer and can be quickly entered by tapping on the key and sliding off the top of the keyboard. Many other symbols are readily available on Swype’s second keyboard layer.
Automatic Help
Swype detects when you may be having trouble or might be able to benefit from a particular feature, and prompts you with helpful tips and instructions.
Interactive Tutorial
Get up-to-speed quickly with the fun and fast Swype interactive tutorial.
Advanced Features
When the Swype software is first started, it runs a short piece of test code to estimate the overall speed of both processing and file access in its current environment. This estimate is used to establish a default value for a “Swype Operation” parameter that can be adjusted by means of a slider control displayed in the user options.
Input Slider
The slider is labeled at the far left with “Faster Response” and at the far right with “Sloppier Input.” This slider setting controls a broad range of internal parameters that determine the breadth of the initial database search to identify the most likely matching word for each entered input path. It also controls a large number of other thresholds, such as how close the path needs to come near a key in order for that key to be potentially considered as a “match” to the path at that point. The slider is initialized to the determined default value, which results in an average response time of less than 250 milliseconds. This means that, on average, Swype will generate the intended word for an input path within ¼ second of when the stylus or finger is lifted from the screen at the end of the path
Speed and Accuracy
Swype is faster than existing text entry methods because it has built-in intelligence that does not require users to hit each letter accurately. Also, tracing a smooth, continuous path is much faster than “target-tap-lift-target-tap...”. Even novice users can quickly achieve sustained data entry speeds of over 40 words per minute.
Swype's official website
Swype on FreewarePocketPC.net
I ported Swype to all popular resolutions. It was dumped from Verizon Omnia II by GinKage at Modaco and first CAB file was released by sorg. I played with graphics and settings to make it compatible with other screens. From Swype.dll looks like that product version is 2.0
Verizon ROM extract thread in Modaco:
Code:
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000-omnia-ii-gsm-rom-discussion/297290/verizon-rom-extract/
Right now there are two different dictionaries in app. English and Spanish. There are also activities in creating new dictionaries for Swype (Check 3rd post)
Check second post for more information and download links.
Developers and experts call, Please help us reach our goals. Any suggestion and/or comment is appreciated and welcome.
Credits to:
GinKage @ Modaco for dumping the ROM from Verizon Omnia II
sorg @ Modaco for being the first one to release a CAB
The guy @ Facebook who created this!
* I am not the developer of this application. All I did was making it compatible with other resolutions.
2nd Post
Information and Download
Specifications:
An application requiring from 500K – 900K (depending on options, when compiled for the Windows Mobile platform).
65,000-word language database with an average size of approximately 250K.
Input path analyzer,
Word matching search engine with accompanying word database,
User interface – which is customizable by OEM’s.
Features:
Over 40 words per minute on touchscreen devices
Standard QWERTY layout
Use a stylus or finger
Ideal for all screen sizes and resolutions
Multiple languages compatible
Supports common editing actions
Patented
Single Tap Predictive Text
Easy tips and tricks to Swype faster
*Holding extra long on a letter shows all variants that it has (In other languages)
Current language databases:
English
Spanish
Known issues:
The programs may have conflicts with latest 6.5 builds.
The program might not work on some none WWE ROMS.
Overlap in some 6.5 ROMs.
Swype’s built-in statistical tracking doesn't work.
Goals:
Editing .zdb.le files. (.zdb.le files look like main dictionaries of this application, By editing it we are able to add more languages. Their structure is still not described.
Making the program compatible with most applications.
Fixing overlap in some 6.5 ROMs.
Must do/have:
Install to device memory
2mb free memory
Touch Screen
If you are using this input in none WWE ROMs, Copy whole Swype folder from your locale programs folder to /Program Files/ (Device Memory) to get this working. (Solved with new CAB files)
A soft reset feels good after installation (Not necessary)
Change log:
13 Dec 09
- Hard-coded path is now active for none WWE ROMs (Dictionaries are not changed , But the application installs correctly in ROMs with locale program folder )- Attached files and 4Shared mirrors updated to new CAB files
14 Dec 09
- An experimental way is founded to add Dictionaries manually.- Spanish, French, Portuguese & Italian vocabularies are added to the third post to be tested.
A message from Swype developers:
We see you have re-packaged our software and are distributing it. We are glad to hear that you guys like Swype, but we are obligated to state that we don't condone such activity nor support the result. Naturally those of you asking for new languages and features should wait until we launch a device in your market. Obviously, we won't support unlicensed versions of our software. One might ask why we don't just release the .cab file ourselves and save everyone the hassle. The reason is that we have spent seven years building Swype and we want to try to make a living selling our software. That means someone needs to pay for it. Thus far, our business model is OEM licensing. We do plan to get to direct-to-consumer distribution but it is a different sort of business and thus it is hard to say when. In the meantime, enjoy using Swype and please look out for a better, more integrated, and legal version coming soon to a phone near you.
Regards,
The Swype Team
PS. Our lawyer has asked us to remind everyone about copyright infringement and to inform you that Swype reserves all of its rights.
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Downloads removed
Mod Edit: Removed remark to Swype as Offensive
*To make Swype your default keyboard you can use applications like SIPChange or PPC Configurator
**Please report your experiments and issues here and contribute in making this app better. Also if you find any bug or feature that is not listed in this post please report and describe it.
3rd Post
Dictionaries/Importing
How to add custom dictionaries:
If You have created an eBook from few books or have a list of words in your language or you use vocabularies below:
Open ebook or text file in any text editor.
Highlight some text and copy it.
Paste into the SMS or Email editor (New SMS, New Email).
Highlight text again and tap Swype key to add the text in database.
*It doesn't work in anything except SMS editor (New SMS window).
*Some words in other languages contain letters that are not listed in Swype (Not even in letter's variant list). Words containing these characters won't be added to Swype database. Try to make them as simple as possible so you can add them to Swype.
*We still need to find a way to open and probably decompile .zdb.le and .zkb.le files, that contain dictionary and keyboard settings.
(Credits to inmatrixout, Original post here)
How to replace your userdata.udb?
Userdata.udb is the database that contains your custom words. You can replace you userdata.udb with a new one with custom words in other languages. As userdata.udb is locked as being in use, follow the steps below for the easiest replacing method.
Rename old userdata.udb to userdata.bak (you cannot delete it, but you can rename it)
Copy the new userdata.udb to $SWYPEHOME directory
Soft-reset your device
(Credits to Sir.John, Original post here)
How to create vocabulary list?
Help us by sending us the vocabulary list/dictionary of your language. You can download most of them from this link and you have to convert them to .txt file to be able to use them because words in .dic file are attached to each other in single and copying it to SMS editor wont help as it's just a block of texts. There has to be a space between words or each word has to be written in a separate line to be recognized by Swype. To convert .dic to .txt files with separated words you can use procedure below.
Open the DIC file in Notepad ++.
Choose "Convert to Windows Format" from "Format" or "Encoding" menu.
Wait for the process to complete.
Check the last line, Last line should always contain a word, Neither a space nor a symbol. If it contains symbols or empty line clean it.
At last save the file as TXT.
Dictionaries:
Spanish Vocabulary (TXT Format - 91836 Words without letters)
French Vocabulary (TXT Format - 136625 Words and letters)
Portuguese Vocabulary (TXT Format - 385681 Words and letters)
Italian Vocabulary (TXT Format - 277312 Words and letters)
German Vocabulary (TXT Format - 532267 Words and letters)
Swedish Vocabulary (TXT Format - 118271 Words and letters)
German Database (UDB Format - apsis)
German Database (UDB Format - laureus)
Dutch Dictionary (TXT Format - Flip-Oh)
*Opening these files in a Pocket PC text editor takes minutes, You can break them into parts or open them in a single file.
*To open these files faster in PC you can use advanced text editors like Notepad ++.
just tried....
hirad_sabaghian said:
looks like no one likes this! lol
Has anyone even tried this?
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I just installed and it wont work for me
It installs fine and when i go to settings/personal/input....it is there, but when I select it and then click okay and exit, it reverts back to my standard EZ INPUT keyboard
Perhaps its my ROM? or winmo 6.5.3?
acidbath5546 said:
I just installed and it wont work for me
It installs fine and when i go to settings/personal/input....it is there, but when I select it and then click okay and exit, it reverts back to my standard EZ INPUT keyboard
Perhaps its my ROM? or winmo 6.5.3?
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set your keyboard to windows mobiles default keyboard by changing registry or using apps like SIPChange. Then restart windows. wait for os to completely load up. then try it and report back.
I just installed this keyboard today on my fuze and touch pro 2. This is by far the best vitual keyboard ever!! I can finally type with one hand in super fast speeds. and it's pretty accurate too! This is awesome!
Is there a way to add words to the dictionary?
Awesome man i was just waiting for qvga now downloading if it works i will cook it into my rom
Is there a way to add words to the dictionary?
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Just tap it out, it will remember after that
This is great. Thanks.
amazing. works great on my htc vogue with winmo6.1.
amazing app! works great on HTC Fuze WM6.5
Can some one confirm this whether HTC XT9 will still pop up with its suggested words using the cab file here?
It happens to me. I installed the one from Modaco. This makes Swype really sluggish.
Any solution?
Nice to hear that swype works fine for most of u guys.
Can some one confirm this whether HTC XT9 will still pop up with its suggested words using the cab file here?
It happens to me. I installed the one from Modaco. This makes Swype really sluggish.
Any solution?
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Try these CABs. I have both keyboards but the problem doesn't show up.
Works fine on my Acer F1 (WVGA) on latest official rom and tested on 6.5.3 (cooked rom) before with success.
Thanks.
Nice to hear that
P.S. Download files are attached to the second post.
Thanks for this. The QVGA seems to be working well on my Hermes. I tried slideit about a year back, but didn't find it accurate enough. This seems much better and I'll trial it for a few days.
Great app. Thanks !
Waiting for italian dictionary !
Can i be of some help ?
TheMac
themac said:
Great app. Thanks !
Waiting for italian dictionary !
Can i be of some help ?
TheMac
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Check main goals in second post and see if you can help. if so contact me with pms.
Sian said:
Can some one confirm this whether HTC XT9 will still pop up with its suggested words using the cab file here?
It happens to me. I installed the one from Modaco. This makes Swype really sluggish.
Any solution?
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I think i found a solution for you. Disable and remove XT9 using tweak apps. Disable word suggestion in input settings. Using Sipconfig set Swype to default keyboard and set the timeout to 50. restart and hope it works.
When I select swipe, whether trough the setting menu or trough the sip shortcut it hangs. Does anyone knows how to fix?
Thanx.
Touch HD, orginal dutch rom.
MDA_newbie said:
When I select swipe, whether trough the setting menu or trough the sip shortcut it hangs. Does anyone knows how to fix?
Thanx.
Touch HD, orginal dutch rom.
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check second post "Requirements"
Moneyharp is the only expense tracker for Windows Mobile with finger-friendly interface!
It is full-featured, stand-alone personal money management application for day-to-day use.
You can find full description and how-to at moneyharp.com
Prerequisites: .NET Compact Framework 1.1 or greater, touchscreen.
DOWNLOAD: attached
This is the very first test release.
I wrote this app also as a test of some interface and usablility ideas - PLEASE POST YOUR FEEDBACK, I'm eager to hear it.
Screenshot :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
thanks for sharing the app
how do i install this on the hd2
installation
You can download file to your PC and then copy it to HD2 storage through ActiveSync or card reader; or, you can download file directly to device using HD2 web browser.
Here's the link: moneyharp.com/content/moneyharp.cab
[as a new user I'm not allowed to post links, please copy-paste them]
Then browse to downloaded file on the device and double-click it - choose where to install (storage footprint is 0.5MB, so "Main Memory" should be ok), press "ok".
There's also an illustrated guide here: wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_install_uninstall_and_t.html
Please let me know if there are any issues.
it not work on wvga device
Doesn't work on Touch HD , the installation went fine but the program just wouldn't start, it tries to start you can see the hour glass turning but it just doesn't start.
Hi moneyharp,
I have tried little on moneyharp and i already like it. It is completely finger friendly, fast and easy to enter expenses and incomes along with setting up the budget. However there are few things that i noted:
1. After the installation, the program doesnt have an icon
2. It is finger friendly but not user friendly. This could be because i am comparing it with winmoFinance and easy expenses
3. I dont like the color scheme
4. i like application which i can scroll up and down with touchflo. With moneyharp you need to press the up and down key for that. With touchflo, you can remove these two keys and have more space on the screen
5. you can move the list and summary in menu. This will allow more space on screen as currently user can see only 4 items on one screen. Personally i would like the screen to be used maximum to see the entry rather than buttons
6. There should be an option to add notes.
7. As an end user, i would like to capture date and not time in a expense
8. User should have the option to import or export settings or move them to a different location so that in case system crashes or user hard resets phone, the data is saved.
I will use moneyhard couple of days and post my feedback. You are doing a great job. Keep it up. I am looking forward to the next release.
Hi chautruong:
Can you please specify - does it crash, or just does not start, or..?
Hi zjxpot:
Can anyone having Touch HD confirm that moneyharp has an issue with this device?
Meanwhile, I will test in WVGA emulator.
Hi jaskiratsingh:
1. In next release. Just have to draw it.
2. I have tried several expenses apps myself, but tried to write moneyharp as if it was my invention - some concepts really differ. But that doesn't mean I was right. What irritates you most?
3. The skins feature is already there - I will post the skin config file and instructions how to change it shortly.
4. I tried to avoid any device-specific features (in fact, moneyharp doesn't even use hardware buttons). But I am considering some gestures support.
5. I see. But then: - which view (list or summary) do you use more often?
- where to put current balance?
6. My idea was tags should be used for that - than you can generate reports on them. But maybe this is too constrained.
7. You can skip setting time part altogether. If more people are irritated with that, I will leave date only.
8. Backup/restore - in next release. Meanwhile, you can copy config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor files from program directory to backup location.
Thank you very much for feedback! Please keep on - I need it.
well so far its pretty good,i just wanted a app that i could keep track of what's in the bank and every time i make a transaction i could post it and it will tell me how much i have left and so far that's what this is doing. but there is no icon pic on the app and when k first installed it it told me to install another app so this one could work better,do youknow about that
sorry. i didn't explain exactly. it run fine on my htc touch hd but not full screen (may be it support wga screen only?)
Nice apps!
Some comments:
1. It seems that there is not Unicod support - Cyrillic letters seen as ???
2. Autoserach in category - when you have long list, it is annoying to scroll. Can you make window for text entering using keyboard (with autocomplete function)?
3. PC companion would be great
4. Account groups would be useful
5. On WVGA screen there is empty space at the bottom
6. Export from Cashorg and other application
Maybe some inspiration
Cheers for the app so far.
Looking forward to seeing this develop.
My friend showed me an app called Money book on her iBone. What was a nice feature is that once you'd added some things to its various categories you could turn the phone to landscape and it was show a bar chart of how much you'd spent in each category (for that month).
You could maybe set periods (e.g. between pay day and the next) so that you could analyse expenditure during that period, ideally graphically like the above idea.
All the best with it!
Ian
Hi jkiller122:
- next release will have icon
- you're probably talking about .NET framework - moneyharp requires that to run. But in Windows Mobile you should already have it installed.
Hi again chautruong:
yes, I can see it in emulator too. Finding out where's the problem now.
Hi landau:
1. yes, currently Western European encoding is used. Will try to fully adopt Unicode in next release.
2. When you have really long list (>100) and keep the button pressed, it starts to accelerate the scroll (jump 5 at a time). Also, if you use some categories often, put a space in front of its name - it will appear on top of the list.
3. After next release
4. I just disabled that, because I was not sure as to how count group account balance in total balance (omit it? omit accounts in group?) Can you please describe the use case scenario for that?
5. yes, looking at it now (see reply to chautruong)
6. Which format do you use to export from Cashorg (OFX/QFX...)? Also, some details will be lost if you import to moneyharp - e.g. it doesn't have check numbers.
Hi otherworld:
- have you tried the reports (menu>Reports)?
Thank you for your feedback! Keep it coming!
moneyharp said:
Hi jaskiratsingh:
1. In next release. Just have to draw it.
2. I have tried several expenses apps myself, but tried to write moneyharp as if it was my invention - some concepts really differ. But that doesn't mean I was right. What irritates you most?
3. The skins feature is already there - I will post the skin config file and instructions how to change it shortly.
4. I tried to avoid any device-specific features (in fact, moneyharp doesn't even use hardware buttons). But I am considering some gestures support.
5. I see. But then: - which view (list or summary) do you use more often?
- where to put current balance?
6. My idea was tags should be used for that - than you can generate reports on them. But maybe this is too constrained.
7. You can skip setting time part altogether. If more people are irritated with that, I will leave date only.
8. Backup/restore - in next release. Meanwhile, you can copy config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor files from program directory to backup location.
Thank you very much for feedback! Please keep on - I need it.
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Hi Moneyharp,
Please find few comments below:
1. sorting option i.e. ascending date or descending date order
2. if user changes the date, in next transaction the system date should populate instead of chosen date by the user
3. Add a transaction and in Income/Expense: Expense is populated. User can save the transaction, which shouldnt be allowed. This should be Blank and user should be forced to populate income/expense
4. For better UI, as per me,you can remove the time in list view and add income/expense type in same line. Check attachment
In response to backup/restore, what i meant was that the files that contain data should be at a different location say /Storage Card/Expenses and application can point and pick and save data there.
I use the list view mostly. You can keep views : list and summary in menu. You can leave current balance at the bottom or move the current balance at the top
Hi jaskiratsingh
1. moneyharp always sorts records by date in ascending order, and initial position is in the end of the list, so that you see latest entries. An option could be to show either top or bottom of the list (first or last records) - ?
2. The idea was that in one session date is likely to be the same - e.g. you enter transactions for yesterday. moneyharp just repeats the date from last entered transaction in current program usage session.
What are others thinking of that?
3. I didn't want to be too restrictive. User should understand that if he wants full and descriptive reports later, he should fill in all the data. But what if he/she is interested only in some categories or payees tracking - e.g. I want to know how much went to some payee, but no matter the purpose. From my experience, you can't foresee all scenarios, and too many constraints limit them.
4. You have really thought and elaborated on UI options - very impressive!
Still, priority and one of stem ideas in moneyharp is finger-friendly UI. If transaction entries are half the current height, it will be not so comfortable to tap them with your finger (most devices still have touchscreens far from ideal). Also, I noticed that you don't use Payee field - that is why it could fit in 1 line.
That said, you don't tap and edit transactions often - so maybe it's ok to make them narrow.
I invite others to share their opinion!
Option to change the files location - already in list for next release.
Again thank you very much - you provide very qualified and creative review!
Hi moneyharp,
I hard reset my phone and after reinstallation i copied config.stor, main1.stor and main2.stor. Started the application. All the transaction are back but the total is not displayed. Kindly check
Hi jaskiratsingh
Total is 0 or not displayed at all? Are you able to send me some screenshot?
Thank you.
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Hi jaskiratsingh
Total is 0 or not displayed at all? Are you able to send me some screenshot?
Thank you.
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Total was not displayed at all.
I checked now and it is being displayed. Previously, I restarted the ppc couple of times because of installation of applications.
No clue on what happened.
My total was a five figure number.
Just installed to have a look and see how this compares to Cash Organizer, which I use currently.
A few comments that I have initially is the MoneyHarp are:
MoneyHarp doesn't seem to handle screen rotation well. Seems to use the screen height when started to scale the application resolution. This make it very small when started with my keyboard extended and the screen landscape. The application doesn't alter the resolution when switching orientations, so when I slide the keyboard in and switch to a portrait screen the right side of the app is off the screen.
Expect to be able to scroll any of the lists and not have to use the up/down arrows to navigate the menus, etc.
Would also like to be able to have dates shown based on the date style set in the OS or at least have the option to set month before date in the app. Most dates show as I have set in the OS, but when altering the date on transaction entry, it has day before month/year. I would prefer to have month, then day, then year and I'm not sure I would set a specific time ever.
One thing I really like about Cash Organizer is the shortcut they have for adding a new transaction. I map that shortcut to a hardware key and it speeds up entry while on the go. With definitely improves the accuracy of my account balances, since I don't forget to enter later.
MoneyHarp also covers up the bottom bar, which I wouldn't expect. An option to not hide would be appreciated.
MoneyHarp doesn't respond to the back key. Should be able to hit the back key and minimize the app.
I will keep testing more and report back what I find.
Looking very nice so far and keep up the great work.
Hi SinisterJunkie
- I deliberately use portrait orientation only, so when started in portrait it's ok. However, scaling problem in landscape you describe is a bug. I will do my best to correct/workaround this problem in next release, so that it is scaled correctly and you just need to turn it if started in landscape.
- I have this on my list, but next release probably won't include gestures yet.
- I use Windows setting throughout, but in date control it is fixed. Change month and day positions depending on OS setting - noted.
- CashOrg have a separate application for speed entry. I wanted to avoid that and make the main app speedy enough - so you can map a button to moneyharp app, and 'add new' is just 1 click away!
- Since moneyharp has it's own keyboard (or you can switch to standard keys in Options), I didn't think it to be a problem... User's habits greatly differ though. Can you describe the "use case" - how do you use bottom bar while in moneyharp?
- Hitting it will shut down the application on any screen, while on some devices users would expect it to act like 'ok' when e.g. entering transaction and that will frustrate them. I decided to steer away from hardware-dependent functions, at least in first release.
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts! Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Hi, first of all, sorry for my bad english; I´m not a developer, I´m just a enthusiast with very limited knowledge
This is NOTHING new; although CHT provides A LOT of extra features (incluiding a beatiful launcher), but CHT is a TODAY PLUGIN, and their use involves the "exit " the application in the foreground.
After tried too many launchers, I couldn`t find anything with a "System-Utility-flavor" (the feel of actual launchers are like an app more, with a normal window); I searched a launcher capable of appear in top of any window (without completly cover it), with minimal impact in the state of the foreground window...
To explain this, an example is an old misunderstood app; that was SideX
www.theunwired.net/?item=review-mtux-com-sidex-2002-applet-platform
Or this type of app, BUT configurable for a Launcher in "Launch Pad mode", and Alt-Tab task switcher and other capabilities (the launcher offered by this software company is another app, but is a today plugin):
http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver
Coming back to WM6.5.x, Taskbar Launcher is very good in that sense, but because its development was stopped, no more support, and I could never get rid of a system freeze when I hit in a empty space. However, it has several useful features that can be implemented for other similar apps
Well, so far the closest application to SideX I've found (but fully functional) is a commercial launcher named "Hi-Launcher", from a software company with several years in the the PDA world
I know, someone who has seen, maybe think that it is an application rather ugly and old-fashioned, but I think that with the adequate settings It can be very USEFUL, although with small icons It can be operated with the fingers without issues (the selection can be "dragged" and the desired action only will started once you release the desired icon)
I´m not related in anyway with this software company, only want to show my set of utilities an personal setup, that probably will be useful for someone else. In fact, if anyone knows of other similar application with the same functionality and feeling, please let me know! ( of course, after testing this "pack" )
The provided cab is conformed by several utilities developed for xda members, with a setup adapted with the mentioned commercial app (the cab does NOT includes Hi-Launcher). In summary the two main parts of this "suite" are: The xda freeware utilities preconfigured, and the commercial launcher ( named as "RNS Hi-Launcher" )
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
---Hi-Launcher personalized menu in WM6.5.x----
FEATURES/XDA APPS
-"Floating" Launch Pad, without interfering any open app (maybe only interfers on pausing video playback)
-Anywhere, anytime the preconfigured functions will be available
-Is included a "start menu" icon (that launch the standard WM6.5.x Start Menu), because in this setup, its purpose tis not to replace the Windows Start menu (this thanks to TBL`s commands)
-As Task Manager, its conformed with xTask, with the most reliable setting for WM6.5.x custom ROMs
-XTask is complemented with uTask, because Ameba doesn´t work well for it
-By default, in the top bar appears the icons of open apps and you can select to activate the desired app (default xtask/xhook brehavior), but it only was possible by delaying the autostart of xHook (because the use of TBL that normally interferes in this feature, but fixed through the delay of initializing xHook) .
If you dont´t want to have the top bar with icons of open apps, please delete the "xHook_delay.lnk" file from "\Windows\Startup"
-arkSwitch is disabled, because xTask with the correct setting (and uTask assistance) work best ; while ameba and akswitch can be reenabled after desinstall this "pack".
-Rotate Screen function, Camera, File explorer, etc, with availability anytime
-Torch icon (netripper´s torch) is complemented with "keepscreen readable" app, allowing to keep on the device (the device goes to sleep only after the programmed time has ocurred, 3 min by default, registry setting) . Of
course, tapping again the torch icon, turns off the light before the programed time.
The registry key is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\TorchButton\FlashlightTimeout
If your device does not support flash light, simply assign other function to this element in: Start -- Hi-Launcher -- Design the menu , and pick the program that you want.
It does the same with other functions.
-The bluetooth icon turns BT in discoverable mode
-Included virtual d-Pad (avalable anytime from anywhere in the PPC)
-Screen OFF icon
-Many customizable functions/launch possibilities
...Also, this includes a simple but versatile task switcher in Alt+Tab style
TRIGGER METHODS INCLUDED
Of origin, Hi-Launcher can be triggered only by Hard Button key, also a trigger through Start button tap (only Start button in TOP bar, NOT compatible with WM6.5.x builds); and Scren gestures.
At this time, these trigger options are not practical, because lastets devices have few main hardware buttons (unlike the LG Fathom, that has a dedicated Taskmanager hardware button); and the gestures are ocupped by other apps and are not accurate.
.Therefore I decided to find the way to this launcher can be triggered by shortcut, with the aim of being able to use this "suite" and use it as possible, This thanks to vjay555´s vjkeyPress.
Because it, and TBL commands, xTask and a registry key; included in this "pack", this launcher can be triggered by the following methods (default)
-Hitting anywhere in the top bar (HTC Notification and the other functions not lost, because it´s included in the Launcher pad)
-LongPress Send key
-Dragging a line from an empty area of top bar, or dragging a line from start (bottom) windows logo. This NOT interfere with any gesture stored in your device (this is a simple function of xTask)
As mentioned, this all comes preconfogurated, but you always can make your own configurations, just I think this cfg is the starting point to enjoy the great xda utilities.
INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
-If you installed any task manager, pelase, uninstall it or deactive it (no problem with arkswitch, this cab overrides it in the ROM)
(install both in MAIN memory, NOT storage card)
-IMPORTANT: FIRST Install Hi-Launcher 1.1 (Not provided)
Hi—Launcher is shareware (9 day trial)
www.hilauncher.com
You can play for a while with this software to learn its basic funcionality; but all default settings will be overwritten in the next step. Anyway, is important to open the Hi-Launcher Menu in order to trial period of this app to be activated.
-Install the provided cab (xda Utilities). This file contains THE basic, but useful system utilities for your WM6.5.x PPC (Custom ROM recommended)
-Soft reset (important)
The new launcher brings when you hit the top taskbar of WM6.5.x; Send Key (hold), or drag a line from top bar, or from start (bottom) button ...and take advantage of ease of use and multitasking
Of course, the settings of Hi-Launcher can be personalized even more
EDIT, IMPORTANT: In Hi-Launcher confIguration menu, please don`t change "Menu Trigger" configuration, in order to keep triggering the launch pad with the mentioned trigger methods.
To restore the suggested functionality of Hi-Launcher (just in case), I included a File called "Hi-Launcher reapply settings.zip", not necessary if you don´t change the "menu trigger" setting
Remember, RNS Hi-Launcher is shareware, which implies that after using it for the trial period, you should buy or unisntall, which is reason I also wonder why other BEST alternatives exists, with the same or BETTER posibilities and feeling..
UPGRADING FROM TRIAL TO FULL
-Install or activate Hi-Launcher 1.x full version, then brings an option to keep setting, choose YES
Enjoy
(always you can Backup to file your Hi-Launcher Settings from its menu)
UNINSTALL AND REVERT TO ARKSWITCH/AMEBA
-Uninstall RNS Hi-Launcher
-Go to \TasbarLauncher\tblconfig.exe
-Select "Disabled" (also advisable on reinstallation of this pack)
-OK ( or "back key" )
-Uninstall "xda utilities for HL" (it takes up to a pair of minutes, because the tbl.exe process)
-Soft reset
After this, to revert Ameba and ArkSwitch to default setting, install "Revert Ameba Settings" cab (but I hope that you find xTask most useful with their proper settings)
The credits is 100% to all developers at xda for their hard work; I only cabbed it and preconfigured in a basic mode, I will add the full list of xda theads app used for this.
NOTE: THIS POST IS FOR WM6.5.X VGA/WVGA DEVICES AND "ALL IN ONE" VERSION; FOR WM 6.1/6.5 DEVICES, OR IF YOU DONT´WANT TO INSTALL xTASK, PLEASE SEE THE POST #9
Best Regards
This is for Hi-Launcher ?
Request
Yes, it´s a personalized menu for Hi-Launcher app, plus some utilities developed by xda members.
Of course; ideally, it would be that this was based on freeware, unfortunately I could not find any other app of this type
This is not only a topic to show a set of preconfigured basic applications, already developed ... but also a sincere request to the community:
REQUEST SECTION:
Functional features:
-Not designed to replace the start menu, because the launcher will be used for the very basic and frequentry used functions/apps
-Relatively small, floating window that does not cover the foreground app (any type of app); and neither change the state of foregroud app or window
-Fast, lightweight
-Integrated App switcher (configurable)
-Autoclose if not action selected (time programmable)
-The LaunchPad must remain visible for a few moments after the desired action is selected, and meanwhile the selected icon is resalted (useful in slow-start apps/functions like screen rotation while cht, to prevent double-tapping that consequently opens another element that is to be drawn)
-Also, the selection must be "swappable", and launch the desired action only at release of the desired icon.
-Very configurable, but no easily accidentally modified settings in daily usage.
Trigger methods
-By shortcut, or command parameters, e.g. "launcher.exe /showpad"
-Only optionally: assigning a rectangular touch-area for triggering (resizeable) in top bar; and don´t interfering with taskmanager and start icons in WM6.1 top bar-type; while in WM6.5.x can be assigned to all the area of top bar (Taskbar Launcher type)
Aesthetics features:
-3D effects are not so important, because the priority of fast and lightweigth feature; but desirable ONLY if it not compromisses the speed and/or compatibility
-Transparency effects, mainly for the pad´s background (semitransparent pad with texture would fantastic!)
-Icon Size: Not too big, to easly accomodate several apps/functions; although larger than Hi-Launcher´s icons
Yes, it´s a large list for a simple-type app, but I think this type of launcher would very useful and universal
By mean hi-Launcher, menu configuration is somewhat difficult to make 3 or more columns designs (therefore the preconfigurated files) ...but meanwhile this app has most of the features listed above.
I wil post a duplicate of this post in the appropriate area, and I promise duplicate this list only this time...
Best regards
Internet connection
Delete it, i made a mistake, sorry!
do you gone made one for 6.5?
i think is great peace of work
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do you gone made one for 6.5?
i think is great peace of work
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I wil repack a 6.1/6.5 version, but it involves to forget of the trigger by tapping the top bar, that would lost (because this trigger method depend of TBL, that takes almost total control of top bar taps, affecting the start button and "ok" button in WM6.1/6.5)
I will search a method for get arround the problem
The posibble workaround for this pack in WM6.1/6.5, is find an app that assigns a rectangular touch-area (resizeable) in the top bar, for triggering ANY app (maybe using arkswitch only to trigger Hilauncher ?); or get some type of uTask app, but that works in top bar.
it will be nice
gracias.
Hi, thanks for this setup, I like it But my device is qvga and the icons are too small, is it possible to make the icons bigger?
And also, I only want the launcher with your trigger method (and things required to make them work), can you provide a cleaner cab without other ultilities? (I already have xtask and hilauncher). Thanks a lot
Splitted cabs for max compatibility
Here are the cabs to obtain maximum compatibility in the most WM6.5.x, WM6.5, WM6.1 devices. However, THE TRIGGER BY HITTING THE TOP BAR WAS ELIMINATED (for compatibility).
Hi-Launcher Still can be triggered by shortcut, also, by means Send Key (hold); and by means the xtask preconfigurated cab, drag a line from a empty area in top bar to activate a buttons where HL can be opened.
The first cab (this post) also places an additional shortcut in the root folder of main memory to trigger HL
The installation procedure is almost the same described in post #1, be sure install all this in MAIN memory:
-If you installed the complete version (post #1), uninstall it
-Install Hi-Launcher (if already not), open its menu in order to learn the basics and activate the trial period (in case)
http://www.hilauncher.com/
-Install "XDA_Util._for_Hi-Launcher_(Simple).cab", to copy the basic utilities and overwrite the default trigger method, being now triggered HL by shortcut
-Optionally, install xTask (two cabs provided: one for WM6.1/6.5, and other for WM6.5.x). This is not mandatory, but xTask is the task manager that best matches with this type of utility. If you install xTask, make sure to deactivate other task managers. In case of ArkSwitch, there is not problem if you use the WM6.5.x Xtask cab
If you decided intall xTask, but dont´t want to have the topbar/taskbar with icons of open apps, please delete the "xHook_delay.lnk" file from "\Windows\Startup"
-Soft Reset
Note: Once intalled the utilities, In Hi-Launcher confIguration menu, please don`t change "Menu Trigger" configuration, in order to keep triggering the launch pad with the trigger method by shortcut (really, the trigger shortcut is an emulation of pressing the "Esc" key, and Hi-Launcher is preconfigurated [in this setup] to react to this "hardware" Esc key).
At this point, the basic components are in your device, but the personalized menu isn´t ready
To get the basic suggested design in VGA and WVGA devices, copy the "Base Menu_VGA_WVGA.*" file to your device and open it. Note that so far, this menu design file seems to work properly only in VGA and WVGA devices. EDIT: The base menu works also in QVGA screens, thanks to bismuth89`s feedback.
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it will be nice
thanks
Thanks for the base menu, it also works on QVGA the only problem is that icons are really small, but I can live with it since the launcher is very useful
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Thanks for the base menu, it also works on QVGA the only problem is that icons are really small, but I can live with it since the launcher is very useful
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Thanks for the feedback, and yes, the icons are small; but the advantage of this launcher, unlike most launchers, its the "warm" selection of the desired app (if you move your selection, then the last released icon will be opened, and not before)
...and although apps are not mine, it's good that this thread will be useful to someone else
Can you attach the file of the menu that your designed? I believe that It can be useful for others, who do not want to fight with the difficulty of the design options that come when you try to use a several columns menu
Best regards
QVGA menu
Sure why not And only now I notice this "warm selection" feature you said, indeed it helps a lot to prevent launching the wrong app
If not for this thread I wouldn't even try Hi-launcher because the screenshot in their website look so unattractive
Here is the QVGA menu in the screenshot above: